ROUND 3564 - "NEW" NEW WORD - CALLIPYGIAN

[Judy Madnick]

Many of you have a much better vocabulary than I do, and this becomes more difficult as our used list gets longer. While attempting to find another new word, several were words that I had successfully used before! So...let's try this again. (Is there a list of players who "lead the pack" in the number of "new" words they had to use in a particular round? LOL!)

"New" new word for Round 3564, barring too many DQs, is: CALLIPYGIAN. Please note that I've changed the deadline for fake definitions. Capitalization is not significant. Do not look it up! Please create a fake definition and send that definition to jmadnick at gmail.com (with no spaces) before the deadline, which is Sunday,July 20, 2025, 7 p.m. Eastern Time or the corresponding time where you live! https://www.timeanddate.com   

If you know this word, please let me know ASAP. If too many players know the definition (i.e., if it's a word that you're famiiar with but I'm not!), I will find a new word.  

Full rules are available here. https://sites.google.com/dixonary.net/dixonarydocs/game-rules-and-advice/rules 

 

Judy Madnick

 

 

 

 

[France International/Mike Shefler]

Sorry, but I know that word too. And I'll bet several others do also.

--Mike

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[Hugo Kornelis]

I think I had to go through four or five tries once?

This is not a word that I know. But I'll hold back on putting in effort and first see how Mike's bet pans out.

Op 19-7-2025 om 14:27 schreef Judy Madnick:

[Stephen Dixon]

Not that I am a regular player (not even close) but I know that word also.

Steve 
  

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[Paul Keating]

Judy,

That word has not been used, but a very similar word has been:

That is why I believe that using the spreadsheet search is more effective than a textfile.

Even if that word had not been played before, I think anyone who knows the one could guess the other. I remember having to withdraw that word because too many people knew it. And I had been so pleased with it! It was only my fourth deal.

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Paul Keating

Soustons, Nouvelle Aquitaine, France

[Paul Keating]

I suppose we couldn't entice you back to being a regular player?

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Paul Keating

Soustons, Nouvelle Aquitaine, France

[Judy Madnick]

I always check the used-word list but not for similar words.

 

Judy

 

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From: "Paul Keating" <dixo...@boargules.com>

To: dixo...@googlegroups.com;

Date: 7/19/2025 9:04:51 AM

Subject: Re: [Dixonary] ROUND 3564 - "NEW" NEW WORD - CALLIPYGIAN

Judy,

That word has not been used, but a very similar word has been:

That is why I believe that using the spreadsheet search is more effective than a textfile.

Even if that word had not been played before, I think anyone who knows the one could guess the other. I remember having to withdraw that word because too many people knew it. And I had been so pleased with it! It was only my fourth deal.

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On 2025-07-19 14:27:51, Judy Madnick <jmad...@gmail.com> wrote:

"New" new word for Round 3564, barring too many DQs, is: CALLIPYGIAN. 

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[Judy Madnick]

So you know the meaning also. 

[Paul Keating]

No specific list, but you can get the information from the Used Words List. The dealers of the rounds below had to make 4 attempts:

443Larry Halman
1113 Larry Halman
1369 Dan Widdis

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On 2025-07-19 14:27:51, Judy Madnick <jmad...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Daniel B. Widdis]

I'm famous!

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[Judy Madnick]

Judy

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[Daniel B. Widdis]

So did some guy named Paul Keating in Round 1708.  Well, not really, he just had two possible spellings of da woid so it complicates my formulas. :)

Here's the top 5 total number of re-deals (slightly off if the same word/alternate spelling is used but I'm not going to clean up the data for that).  I'm leading in this stat!

Dan Widdis 38
Chris Carson 26
Paul Keating 23
Judy Madnick 18
Dave Cunningham 16

Here's the top 5 by percent of their rounds that were redeals (who dealt at least 20 words):

Author Redeals Total Deals Percent Redeal
Larry Halman 16 51 31%
Debbie Embler 8 36 22%
Judy Madnick 18 83 22%
Dan Widdis 38 185 21%
Hugo Kornelis 7 35 20%

Here's the list of dealers who have done at least 3 words in a round:

Chris Johnson
Chris Carson
Larry Halman
Kenneth Wolking
Carol Eastman
Dodi Schultz
Paul Keating
Dan Widdis
Stuart Lieber
Judy Madnick
Bob Stone
Dick Weltz
Tim Bourne
Millie Morgan
Steve Graham
Shani Naylor
Ryan McGill
Debbie Embler
Hugo Kornelis

On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 6:39 AM Paul Keating <dixo...@boargules.com> wrote:

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[Judy Madnick]

It's nice to know that I'm in such good company. LOL!

 

Judy

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From: "Daniel B. Widdis" <wid...@dixonary.net>

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Date: 7/19/2025 11:41:18 AM

Subject: Re: [Dixonary] ROUND 3564 - "NEW" NEW WORD - CALLIPYGIAN

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[Paul Keating]

I propose adding a third possible value to the 3rd column. In addition to space for "regular" and * for "withdrawn" we could have, say, + for "alternate form". It would be easy to retrofit, and is unlikely to break existing code. At worst, code looking at that column mjght give a different wrong answer.

P

[Daniel B. Widdis]

Given only the two of us regularly update the table, feel free.

I didn't bother with parsing the symbol, I just counted duplicates in the column because I was lazy.  But filtering out the "+" before applying my formulas would have provided cleaner data.

Going back over thousands of rounds to identify alternate spelling entries and a "+" is left as an exercise for the proposer. :)

On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 11:56 AM Paul Keating <dixo...@boargules.com> wrote:

I propose adding a third possible value to the 3rd column. In addition to space for "regular" and * for "withdrawn" we could have, say, + for "alternate form". It would be easy to retrofit, and is unlikely to break existing code. At worst, code looking at that column mjght give a different wrong answer.

P

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[Paul Keating]

Not all that hard. I did consider the work involved. 

1. Eliminate the rows with asterisks. 

2. Select the remaining pairs of rows with the same round number and player name. 

Takes more time to describe than to do.

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From: "Daniel B. Widdis" <wid...@dixonary.net>

Date: 19/07/2025 23:15 (GMT+01:00)

[Daniel B. Widdis]

Takes more time to describe than to do.

Not if you're like me and were thinking of writing software to compute Levenshtein distance

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[Daniel B. Widdis]

Also by eliminating the rounds with asterisks before comparing, you're ruling out alternate spellings of words that were withdrawn. :)

I'll go back to my on-call shift now.

[Paul Keating]

I wouldn't try writing a Levenshtein distance function. If that were needed I would call a Python library function.

But there are only a handful of them, and it's a one time job that can be done by eye. 

Besides, they can be identified without a similarity deck. If there are two or more words with the same dealer and round number and no asterisk, they must both/all have run and so were either variants or dealer typos.

More typos than variants is my guess.

[Paul Keating]

Okay, I've now dealt with alternate spellings in a way that addresses that objection.

Any word, withdrawn or not, can have two alternate spellings. We’ve never needed more, and I’m the only one that ever proposed two, and then only once. In the search tabs, a match on an alternate spelling will return the same results as a match on the form given first. That approach also avoids changing the semantics of the withdrawn column. 

Code that assumes only one spelling for Da Woid in any round should now not give unintended results if there are two spellings, and round numbers are only repeated if word was withdrawn or abandoned.

In a way this is a return to a previous convention that put alternate forms in the same data item separated by a comma or a slash. We only changed that to make coding of searches easier. But players have stopped writing programs that read words123.txt and expected it to be in a specific format.

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