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Mike S

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Jun 14, 2010, 7:12:14 PM6/14/10
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Hi everyone - as discussed , please find the introducee form - the
form we will ask the women who have been introduced to the program to
fill and tell us a little more about themselves.

I have created it and would like to have it ready by Thursday 17th
June.

Please modify as you think fit.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AgEgPR8L3pJZdG92bzU5dTZ5R1k5LUkyRENkQ3JleHc&hl=en_GB

If you do not wish to amend, please review.

Thanks

Mike

Lisa Crispin

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Jun 15, 2010, 2:28:04 AM6/15/10
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Could we add:
"What would you tell women who are thinking about joining an agile team" or something to that effect? Or maybe even "What would you tell people...." not only women.

Should  we add something like "What accomplish are you most proud of"?
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Deborah (Hartmann) Preuss

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Jun 15, 2010, 2:35:11 AM6/15/10
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Question suggested by esther D: what is different about working on an
agile team, in relation to other teams you have known?

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Deborah (Hartmann) Preuss

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Jun 15, 2010, 2:36:20 AM6/15/10
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Ps: cannot participate at the moment, but:

We *will* ask if they want to participate, won't we? Some may not want
to, this would save us time to know right away.

Deb

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Deborah (Hartmann) Preuss

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Jun 15, 2010, 2:36:57 AM6/15/10
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Remember there are questions on our wiki under "interview questions"
or some such

Janet Gregory

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Jun 15, 2010, 2:37:33 AM6/15/10
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I really like that question. "what is different about working on an agile team, in relation to other teams you have known?"  It is what will make women (or others) think about going into development... ie. maybe things are different now.

Lisa Crispin

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Jun 15, 2010, 3:33:31 AM6/15/10
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Good question! Yay Esther.

We did discuss first making sure they want to participate.
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Yves Hanoulle

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Jun 15, 2010, 4:00:55 AM6/15/10
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I also would like them to ask about their rolemodels

If we would add some kind of optional question for them to enter someone else for the project, we have a more network version of this.
(yes I know we don't have time to interview everyone)
but we might be able to later create the network deborah has talked about with this kind of data

And someone who does not want to be nominated, might say so because she thinks someone else would be better fit.
For me this should not be part of the questionary, but should be a link on the thank you page they see after answering the questions.



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Deborah (Hartmann) Preuss

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Jun 15, 2010, 3:27:54 PM6/15/10
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Re: vyes idea...

My two questions are:

Who has inspired you?
Who has supported you?
(Men and women)

Deborah (Hartmann) Preuss

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Jun 15, 2010, 3:30:21 PM6/15/10
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Maybe a third q

How do you contribute (give back?) to your professional community?
(Locally or more widely; informally or formally)

Lisa Crispin

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Jun 15, 2010, 3:51:12 PM6/15/10
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I like all 3 of those questions.

Yves Hanoulle

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Jun 15, 2010, 6:14:48 PM6/15/10
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+1

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Mike S

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Jun 19, 2010, 3:54:38 PM6/19/10
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OMG!

My brain just engaged.

We should get their consent. If they consent, we ask them (mostly) the
questions that their introducer were asked (tweaked to say 'You'
instead of 'she/her' and to cover the non trivial questions).
).

It becomes more valuable as a a) how the people you inspire see your
contributions b)how you see your contributions.

Please look at the form now and see what you think?

There is a third stage - which is where I feel the more indepth/
introspective questions should reside.

the revised form is here:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AgEgPR8L3pJZdDhSbTQ5YnlVaUQ4NUFHa3ItczRFSnc&hl=en_GB


WDYT?

Mike

On Jun 15, 12:12 am, Mike S <wizew...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone - as discussed , please find the introducee form - the
> form we will ask the women who have been introduced to the program to
> fill and tell us a little more about themselves.
>
> I have created it and would like to have it ready by Thursday 17th
> June.
>
> Please modify as you think fit.
>
> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AgEgPR8L3pJZdG92bzU5dTZ5R1k5L...

Lisa Crispin

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Jun 20, 2010, 2:26:52 AM6/20/10
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I'm confused by the spreadsheet, is it a combo of the questions on the introduction form and the questions we'll ask the interviewee?
thanks
Lisa

Mike S

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Jun 20, 2010, 2:08:34 PM6/20/10
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hi Lisa,

The intention with the introducee form is that we can - for the first
time - hear from the woman introduced.

It will be the same for all the women introduced and should enable us
to make a priority call about how we engage with each introducee
(face2face interview, phone chat, write an article about them etc).

There will be another set of questions that are reserved for interview
(whatever form that takes) - these will be deeper and more insightful.

So the introducee form has the same questions as the 'introducer'
form. Unfortunately Google forms is a little weird, you can add a
form item on the form as you are designing it, but need to remove it
from the spreadsheet separately if you remove it from the form
designer. (MVC!). I will check , but I think it has some questions on
the spreadsheet that are redundant, but are not on the form.

Look at the form (not the spreadsheet!) here:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDhSbTQ5YnlVaUQ4NUFHa3ItczRFSnc6MA

hopeThisHelps.
Mike

On Jun 20, 7:26 am, Lisa Crispin <lisa.cris...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm confused by the spreadsheet, is it a combo of the questions on the
> introduction form and the questions we'll ask the interviewee?
> thanks
> Lisa
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Mike S <wizew...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > OMG!
>
> > My brain just engaged.
>
> > We should get their consent. If they consent, we ask them (mostly) the
> > questions that their introducer were asked (tweaked to say 'You'
> > instead of  'she/her' and to cover the non trivial questions).
> > ).
>
> > It becomes more valuable as a a) how the people you inspire see your
> > contributions b)how you see your contributions.
>
> > Please look at the form now and see what you think?
>
> > There is a third stage - which is where I feel the more indepth/
> > introspective questions should reside.
>
> > the revised form is here:
>
> >http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AgEgPR8L3pJZdDhSbTQ5YnlVaUQ4N...

winifred...@ieee.org

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Jun 21, 2010, 12:58:17 PM6/21/10
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Hi,

I too was confused by the spreadsheet, so I looked at the form as Mike
suggested. Trouble is in order to 'continue' in the form, one has to
complete the mandatory fields, so I have entered with the name 'test'.

Some comments

Some of the questions are still in the 3rd person ... i.e "she"
instead of "you" (Ex. "How does she demonstrate all round competence
in her work"

When I clicked on the "continue" button of the 2nd page I got to the
"sorry I don't want to participate" page. Something wrong with the
flow here?

Lastly I found the questions on the 2nd page daunting. Many people
(women and men) are not so good at blowing their own trumpet ... so if
they were asked to answer some of the questions they might choose to
not participate. Some of the questions are better answered by the team
mates. Some of the questions are better asked in a conversational
setting and in a slightly different form ... Ex Courage, Teamwork,
Respect and Collaboration are important aspects of agile practives -
how does the team you work with deal with these values? How do you
promote the values in the team?

Just my 2 cents.

Winifred


On Jun 20, 2:08 pm, Mike S <wizew...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> hi Lisa,
>
> The intention with the introducee form is that we can - for the first
> time - hear from the woman introduced.
>
> It will be the same for all the women introduced and should enable us
> to make a priority call about how we engage with each introducee
> (face2face interview, phone chat, write an article about them etc).
>
> There will be another set of questions that are reserved for interview
> (whatever form that takes) - these will be deeper and more insightful.
>
> So the introducee form has the same questions as the 'introducer'
> form.  Unfortunately Google forms is a little weird, you can add a
> form item on the form as you are designing it, but need to remove it
> from the spreadsheet separately if you remove it from the form
> designer. (MVC!). I will check , but I think it has some questions on
> the spreadsheet that are redundant, but are not on the form.
>
> Look at the form (not the spreadsheet!) here:https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDhSbTQ5YnlVaUQ4NUFH...
> > @lisacrispin on Twitter- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Mike S

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Jun 26, 2010, 7:31:05 PM6/26/10
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Hi Winifred and thanks for taking the time to work through the form.

I'm stuck with trying to make the flow work - trawling through google
help isn't, er, helping.

Will try and find a solution to the navigation issue by the end of the
weekend or move it to another survey platform.

Regarding the questions, I agree that the questions need modification
and we need to figure out what to ask that will let us determine how
much time/money to invest in each story (face 2 face vs phone call).

Can anyone else join the effort to craft the questions for the initial
introducee survey???

Mike

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Lisa Crispin

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Jun 27, 2010, 12:57:23 AM6/27/10
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I could try but very short on time - I'll see how tomorrow goes. Do you just want us to  edit the spreadsheet?
thanks
Lisa
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