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From: Dan Brickley <dan...@danbri.org>
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009
Subject: [Social] Opera Unite: webserver in a browser
To: "XMPP and Social Networking, Two Great Tastes That Taste Great
Together!" <soc...@xmpp.org>, "public-xg...@w3.org"
<public-xg...@w3.org>
Opera just announced this -
http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/an-introduction-to-opera-unite/
http://labs.opera.com/news/2009/06/16/
http://unite.opera.com/
Basically they expose webserver via the browser, and it seems also
offer some proxying of this into public URIs like
http://mymac.chrismills.operaunite.com/
I'm crossposting this to the XMPP Social list and the W3C SocialWeb XG
list, since the intro in http://labs.opera.com/news/2009/06/16/ has
some interesting motivation re social network and data portability,
and I've lately been wondering about design decisions where I'm
setting up personal/domestic computing APIs and feel drawn to XMPP
rather than HTTP mainly due to NAT/Firewall traversal issues: XMPP
services on a laptop can be universally addressed, unlike HTTP
services. So I wanted to ask - is there a XEP spec for proxying HTTP
over XMPP? Would this be relevant to Opera Unite scenarios such as the
following?
"""Social networking is important, but who owns it — the online real
estate and all the content we share on it? How much control over our
words, photos, and identities are we giving up by using someone else’s
site for our personal information? How dependent have we become? I
imagine that many of us would lose most of our personal contacts if
our favorite Web mail services shut down without warning. Also, many
of us maintain extensive friend networks on sites like MySpace and
Facebook, and are, therefore, subject to their corporate decisions via
“Terms of Service” and click-through agreements. Furthermore, what
does it mean anyway to be connected to hundreds of our “closest”
friends? What about our real social networks, the people we want to
interact with on a regular basis (like once a week, or even every
day)? Why are online solutions to help us with our real-world social
needs so few and far between?
We are connected to a Web that has democratized much and is an amazing
source of information. However, "the wisdom of the crowd," along with
the notion that our data ought to live on other people's computers
that we don't control, has contributed to making the Internet more
impersonal, anonymous, fragmented, and more about "the aggregate" than
the individual. In fact, quite the opposite of the original promise.
For too long, we’ve been going online to connect to each other, but
sacrificing intimacy as a result."""
thanks for any thoughts,
Dan
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