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Dennis Shaughnessy
Aug 26, 2010, 11:07:55 AM8/26/10
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Is there any Sudbury model activity in Porland, OR? Thanks. Dennis
Don Berg (Attitutor)
Aug 27, 2010, 12:20:53 PM8/27/10
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There are two democratic schools here in Portland, that I know of, and
neither considers themselves to be Sudbury schools. The Village Free
School is a private independent school and Trillium Charter School is
public.
http://villagefreeschool.org/
http://www.trilliumcharterschool.org/
neither considers themselves to be Sudbury schools. The Village Free
School is a private independent school and Trillium Charter School is
public.
http://villagefreeschool.org/
http://www.trilliumcharterschool.org/
Woty
Aug 27, 2010, 3:16:58 PM8/27/10
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What's the difference between Trillium Charter School and a regular
school? I can't tell the difference from the way they describe
themselves on their website.
school? I can't tell the difference from the way they describe
themselves on their website.
~Woty
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Don Berg (Attitutor)
Aug 28, 2010, 11:58:13 AM8/28/10
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The short answer is: democracy and freedom.
I know families from Trillium and have read their constitution and
other documents.
Even though they have chosen to fly under the radar about it they have
a community constitution that was created and ratified democratically.
That constitution spells out a justice system run by students and
ensures that the learning is personalized by each student with the
support of staff, not dictated. As a community they have chosen to
accept district and state requirements that they describe their
process in specific ways (thus the descriptions that are
indistinguishable from regular schools) but the actual practice is not
that different from other democratic schools. The staff take
responsibility for ensuring that each student's learning activities
will be documented to satisfy the state and district, so the kids are
free to engage the world on their own terms.
My impression is that they are clear that what the state requires is
about adults making statements to other adults about what kids are
doing rather than creating any real burden to control what kids are
doing. The adults play a game of words with outsiders who have money
to support the school so the kids can be free to be children. In that
sense all schools do the same thing, what varies is the audience of
outsiders they choose as an audience. Private schools puzzle out what
words will get prospective parents to join their community and inspire
donors to contribute. Sudbury and the democratic schools that are most
like them choose to trumpet freedom and democracy, whereas there are
other schools that provide those same qualities but choose not to
emphasize the fact.
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I know families from Trillium and have read their constitution and
other documents.
Even though they have chosen to fly under the radar about it they have
a community constitution that was created and ratified democratically.
That constitution spells out a justice system run by students and
ensures that the learning is personalized by each student with the
support of staff, not dictated. As a community they have chosen to
accept district and state requirements that they describe their
process in specific ways (thus the descriptions that are
indistinguishable from regular schools) but the actual practice is not
that different from other democratic schools. The staff take
responsibility for ensuring that each student's learning activities
will be documented to satisfy the state and district, so the kids are
free to engage the world on their own terms.
My impression is that they are clear that what the state requires is
about adults making statements to other adults about what kids are
doing rather than creating any real burden to control what kids are
doing. The adults play a game of words with outsiders who have money
to support the school so the kids can be free to be children. In that
sense all schools do the same thing, what varies is the audience of
outsiders they choose as an audience. Private schools puzzle out what
words will get prospective parents to join their community and inspire
donors to contribute. Sudbury and the democratic schools that are most
like them choose to trumpet freedom and democracy, whereas there are
other schools that provide those same qualities but choose not to
emphasize the fact.
--
Enjoy,
Don Berg
Site: www.Teach-Kids-Attitude-1st.com
Free E-book: http://www.changethis.com/51.05.AttitudeProblem
Woty
Aug 29, 2010, 2:30:36 AM8/29/10
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So if a kid wants to play video games all day, is it someone's job to
direct them into other activities?
direct them into other activities?
~Woty
Don Berg (Attitutor)
Sep 2, 2010, 1:17:01 AM9/2/10
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I checked in with the family that I know who are involved over there
and your impression is correct, they are much more directive and
restricted than the impression I got. Their concept of freedom is
restricted to a consensus amongst the student, parents, and teacher
about what to learn and how. They do not have free access to
electronic resources such as cell phones, games, and such. The
students are involved in all aspects of running the school, so they do
encourage engaged participation in many other real decisions.
On Aug 28, 11:30 pm, Woty <wotyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So if a kid wants to play video games all day, is it someone's job to
> direct them into other activities?
>
> ~Woty
>
> On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Don Berg (Attitutor)
>
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and your impression is correct, they are much more directive and
restricted than the impression I got. Their concept of freedom is
restricted to a consensus amongst the student, parents, and teacher
about what to learn and how. They do not have free access to
electronic resources such as cell phones, games, and such. The
students are involved in all aspects of running the school, so they do
encourage engaged participation in many other real decisions.
On Aug 28, 11:30 pm, Woty <wotyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So if a kid wants to play video games all day, is it someone's job to
> direct them into other activities?
>
> ~Woty
>
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demian schwartz
Sep 23, 2010, 2:16:47 AM9/23/10
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There is a publicly funded sudbury school proposed in Pleasant Hill
Oregon- there is a School Board hearing on September 27th if you want
to go show support.
Oregon- there is a School Board hearing on September 27th if you want
to go show support.
demian schwartz
Sep 23, 2010, 2:19:07 AM9/23/10
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Woty-
Is that you?
Demian
Hey we're proposing a new publicly funded Sud. school down in Pleasant
Hill OR- wanna come to the hearing?
Where are you?
Is that you?
Demian
Hey we're proposing a new publicly funded Sud. school down in Pleasant
Hill OR- wanna come to the hearing?
Where are you?
> What's the difference between Trillium Charter School and a regular
> school? I can't tell the difference from the way they describe
> themselves on their website.
>
> ~Woty
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Don Berg (Attitutor)
>
>
>
> <attitu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > There are two democratic schools here in Portland, that I know of, and
> > neither considers themselves to be Sudbury schools. The Village Free
> > School is a private independent school and Trillium Charter School is
> > public.
> >http://villagefreeschool.org/
> >http://www.trilliumcharterschool.org/
>
> > On Aug 26, 8:07 am, Dennis Shaughnessy <dens...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Is there any Sudbury model activity in Porland, OR? Thanks. Dennis
>
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> school? I can't tell the difference from the way they describe
> themselves on their website.
>
> ~Woty
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Don Berg (Attitutor)
>
>
>
> <attitu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > There are two democratic schools here in Portland, that I know of, and
> > neither considers themselves to be Sudbury schools. The Village Free
> > School is a private independent school and Trillium Charter School is
> > public.
> >http://villagefreeschool.org/
> >http://www.trilliumcharterschool.org/
>
> > On Aug 26, 8:07 am, Dennis Shaughnessy <dens...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Is there any Sudbury model activity in Porland, OR? Thanks. Dennis
>
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