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Mireille Duhon

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Aug 2, 2024, 7:20:16 PM8/2/24
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Hi, I'm Giovanni thanks to posting this. I downloaded your model but I can adjust to my project.I'd like to know the steps you did this. I tried with U winder stairs but I have the problem of the central steps that are not straight...Any ideas?

Winder Treads for stairs are intended for use on staircases that include winder steps. These are the triangular steps that are narrower on one side than the other. They change the direction of the staircase and are an alternative to a landing. These treads are to be used with winder risers. A staircase which uses a sequence of winders can form circular, curved, winder or spiral staircases, so you can create a staircase that suits exact specifications. A typical winder is formed with three steps and makes a right-angled turn to the left or right. We supply pre-made winder treads in planks with an inside winder angle of 30-degrees. These winder treads are produced in a selection of timbers. For more on the available stair parts, call the Pear Stairs Team on 01938 553311.

Try Andy Engel's book, "Building Stairs." He reviews all the stair variations in step by step simple instructions and photos. Using his book's guidance I recently built my (first and only) routed stringer custom stairway, and I am 50 years north of my last geometry class. Mr Engel just recently passed away, sadly, but is remembered fondly by many in this forum.
Best tip- use a carpenter's calculator app on your phone to help with stringer layout to avoid cumulative error (1/32" off when multiplied over 16 treads is half an inch! )

Okay, thanks. I've hesitated to buy some of the books on stair building because they may not include the variation that I'm looking for... a double winder. I already know how to build regular stairs, but I'm 77 now and sometimes my brain gets foggy and don't want to waste wood at today's prices!! :-(

A 90 Winding Staircase makes a 90 turn up towards the next level. The staircase allows the user to turn a corner and change their direction. The primary benefit of a 90 Winding Staircase over a flat landing straight staircase is that the 90 Winding Staircase saves much more space. The winders are the steps that are narrower on one side than the other, and when three steps are used to turn the 90 corner, the middle step is called the kite winder, as it looks like a kite-shaped quadrilateral.

We offer standard Winder Treads in 2 Tread or 3 Tread Kits. These are solid wood treads that are mitered one side. We also offer custom sized Winder Treads in any dimension and all available wood species. Please contact us for non-standard dimensions or species.

Winder treads, ordered individually, without treads or other stair parts, may incur additional shipping charges for freight. Shipping via UPS/Fedex upon request, but voids any warranty due to handling issues. Contact us for more details.

WoodStairs.com has a Free Shipping (shipping allowance of up to 10% of the order total) policy for orders over $1500 to the lower 48 states. Nearly all of our wood products are made to order so please view the full shipping, return, and refunds policy at our terms and conditions page located at -and-conditions/

This is one of our more design-intense projects that started out as a traditional curved stair and ended up being this dancing winder stair. It was a true collaboration between Heartland and the homeowner in Nevada. We spent many hours on the phone discussing the most minute details, made two site visits prior to the build, and sent photos and sketches back and forth until we were both happy with the details. This stair won the 2020 StairCraft Award for Best Traditional Straight Stair.

Tim Cole, of Cole/Younger Inspection, gave us a comprehensive list of things that will need our attention when he did a walk-through inspection while we were in mid-purchase negotiations. While the house is in remarkably good shape, the central fireplace is clearly a focus of concern more than we thought. Repointing of the chimney and replacement of spalled bricks is a priority. This will be a bit of a headache, but at least we now know how to keep our furry friends from entering the house.

The hall trim in most of the pre-demolition photos appears to be a soft blue, but a damp winter without heat has helped to reveal an earlier light ochre paint. We tried to match both paints to the Farrow & Ball colour chart, and these were the closest matches.

We have no idea how any furniture could have been placed on the second floor given how narrow the space is. One of the windows on the east side looks to have been enlarged, perhaps to accommodate objects that would not fit up the stairs.

The hallway is 96-inches wide but the space for the staircase gained a foot with the removal of a cupboard from the west parlour. The plywood patch covers the area where a ladder lead to the basement under the winder.

KA opened the hallway by removing two walls and the staircase, and put in a temporary stringer. While the view from the front entry straight to the hearth at the rear of the house is nice, it just looks totally at odds with the scale of all the other features.

Our architects SW and LS suggest putting in a partial winder that would evoke the lost staircase while complying with building code. The challenge will be to keep the new staircase from pushing too far into the adjoining spaces. At the very least, R and I want to restore the front entry and will work with plans for the stairs with that priority in mind.

When negotiations on the house were in full swing, R and I were still getting used to the commute to Prince Edward County on the weekends. Overnight stays at B&Bs helped to economize on time but not on our bank account. Late lunches on Saturdays before visiting the house meant shortened viewing times because only the first floor was outfitted with rudimentary lighting; the second floor could only be viewed in daylight, hence the focus of these photos.

One of the great features in the east parlour are the two mouse holes in the baseboard moulding on the west wall. I know it may make some people squirm to think of vermin in their house, but I think these lend some charm to the house and its history (once the red squirrels are vacated in the renovation, there will be little way of reentry for little critters).

There was no time to fit a house tour into our social outings and put it off for a few weeks. I checked with R before tracking down the owner and arranged to view the place on a Saturday in September.

Another month went by before we could determine it was feasible; the first week of December we sat down with the seller to draft a contract for renovation; mid-January we submitted an offer; on March 13th, 2012 we closed the deal.

The automatic stairs worked well for us. We created a 90 degree turn with two 45 degree winders. The software draws a simple triangle winder, this does not conform to R311.7.4, our town uses the 2018 ICC code.

This is a renovation and restoration of a 1725-1845 connected farm house. This makes the space available problematic for several reasons. We have to deal with 8x10 floor timber frame on 24 inch centers as well as hand laid stone walls. Further crowding comes from a 30 foot dug well inside the Back House and a 10 inch reinforced concrete foundation poured when the barn was lifted two years ago.

Looking for thoughts on this, we could not find a way to set the "Stair Landing Specification" to provide this detail. The Stairs are 37 inches on our temporary installation, We could go to 42 on the stair width, but the winders are limited to 37 between that wall at the bottom and the first step. I could move the upper flight up 6 inches however, it is bolted to a Timber from the 1700's that would have to be modified and reinforced.

Winders are steps located where a staircase turns and are narrower on the inside of the turn than they are on the outside. A staircase defined as a winder expands to fill in any gaps between the side of the stairs and nearby walls. Winders can be created a variety of different ways:

Winders must be in a room with valid room definition. You cannot create winders in an area composed of only 2 corner walls. If this configuration is needed, enclose the area in with Invisible walls so that a room area is defined.

Of course with a CNC, paper templates and marking out are things of the past, but for small workshop and amateurs marking up whether it be with paper templates or dimensioned drawings is not only efficient but an enjoyable and satisfying part of the job.

The first and second steps have been modified using Progecad to draw over the StairDesigner plans. This way of designing a stair with StairDesigner and CADD allows us to create practically any design fast and easy.

However, to maintain a smooth flow on the winders around the newels the stringers have been slightly modified by adding a curved triangle at their assembly point with the newels to accommodate the extra winders.

Nowadays people tend to heat up houses so extremely at winter time that air has basically no humidity and no heating at summertime with high humidity , wondering what could happen if i make it one piece stringer about 300mm wide pinewood plus thin laminate of oak.

Solid wood stairs should be kept inside. Intense variations in humidity will result in cracking .
So I never recommend solid wood for outside.
Scandinavian houses should be non different that others.
I have seen solid wood stairs 100s of years old in houses without central heating in perfect condition.
As long as there is no water running onto the wood.
Once a roof starts leaking onto the stair the wood will split and start rotting.

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