KR-CI problem

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Bingbing Suo

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Jan 14, 2013, 2:25:17 AM1/14/13
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Dear Dirac users,

I would like to perform an 4-components MR-CISD calculation by using KR-CI for B atom. I have some problems about such calculation.

My B.inp file looks like this, C2v point group is used in calculation

**DIRAC
.TITLE
Li. DHF test calculations.
.WAVE F
.PROPERTIES
#.4INDEX
.ANALYZE
**HAMILTONIAN 
.DOSSSS
**INTEGRALS
*READIN
.UNCONTRACT
**WAVE FUNCTIONS
.SCF
.KR CI
*SCF
.EVCCNV
1.0E-10 1.0E-9
.CNVINT
0.01 0.0001
.CLOSED SHELL
4
.OPEN SHELL
1
1/6
##### Start CI input####
*KRCICALC
.CI PROGRAM
LUCIAREL
.GAS SHELLS 
 3
 0 2 / 1
 5 5 / 4
 5 5 / 25
.CIROOTS
 3  1
.MAX CI
 20
*END OF

The first question is about CIROOT. We know C2v double group has 4 boson irreps and 1 femi irrep. Since the B has odd number of electrons, I expect the group state of B has femi irrep. So I write input as 
.CIROOTS
 1  1
but it does't work. 

I found following lines in output.
  Number of determinants per double group irrep 
  ============================================= 
     0.00000000000         0.00000000000         126.000000000         126.000000000  

Why there are four irreps? If I input
.CIROOTS
 3 1

It seems the calculation can go further but I am fully confuse about the symmetry.  Could you please recommend me some books about double group symmetry?


Further, I still could not run KR-CI. I encountered such error with my previous input and exist

  ==============================================================
   ==> allocation of two CI vectors and one resolution vector <==
  
   current available free memory in double words:      2047957120
   allocate two CI vectors each of length:                    126
   allocate resolution vector of length:                      768
   ==============================================================

 No integral found in geth2dia_sigden.
 Type of integral = COUL
 Index pair                      1                     6
 Indices                      5                    -5                    -5
                     5

  --- SEVERE ERROR, PROGRAM WILL BE ABORTED ---                       

 Date and time (Linux) : Mon Jan 14 12:37:18 2013
  *** error in geth2dia_sigden: no 2e- diagonal integral found. ***

It seems some MO integrals could not been found? 

Dear Dirace expert, what is the matter of my calculation?





Bingbing Suo
Institute of Modern Physics, Northwest University
229 Taibaibei Road
Xi'an, Shaanxi 710069
            bs...@nwu.edu.cn

Bingbing Suo

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Jan 16, 2013, 2:25:57 AM1/16/13
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Hi Dirac Users, I found my previous question about KR-CI has some error in my input.

I would like calculate B atom at C2v symmetry.  The full relativistic calculation is preferred.
My previous input is not correct.  The Gas space looks like

*KRCICALC
.CI PROGRAM
LUCIAREL
.GAS SHELLS 
 3
 0 2 / 1
 5 5 / 4
 5 5 / 25
.CIROOTS
 3  1
.MAX CI
 20


It should be

.GAS SHELLS 
 3
 0 2 / 1
 3 5 / 4
 5 5 / 25

The KR-CI runs smoothly. However, I still confuse about CIroots in my input.
.CIROOTS
 3  1

3 means irrep 3, but I only have one fermion irrep in C2v double point group.


Bingbing Suo
Institute of Modern Physics, Northwest University
229 Taibaibei Road
Xi'an, Shaanxi 710069
            bs...@nwu.edu.cn

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Stefan Knecht

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Jan 16, 2013, 3:21:23 AM1/16/13
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Dear Bingbing,

sorry for the slow response...
what you really want with the B atom (or any atom/linear molecule for that matter) is to run Dirac/KR-CI in linear symmetry where you can
directly specify the Mj\OMEGA value for the target electronic state. this also saves computational time and memory.
see for example here:

http://diracprogram.org/doc/release-12/manual/krci.html#ciroots

in your case, the input for 1 root with Mj = 1/2u would look like:

.CIROOTS
1u 1

Linear symmetry is ensured by symmetry detection in Dirac, just leave out any symmetry generator in the .mol file, e.g. for B it could look like:

INTGRL
 B atom
 
C   1                  .10D-15
        5.    1
B              .00000000           .00000000           .00000000
LARGE BASIS 6-31G
FINISH

Now to your symmetry question:
if you ask for C2v in Dirac, KRCI will actually run with the Abelian subgroup C2 where
the first two irreps (gamma_1 and gamma_2, see attached pdf) are active for systems with an even number of e- and
gamma_3 and gamma_4 for systems with an odd number of e- (as B).

hope, this helps. as recommended above, whenever possible one should exploit (linear) symmetry...

with best regards,

stefan

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Bingbing Suo

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Jan 16, 2013, 3:38:24 AM1/16/13
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Dear Stefan,

Thank you for replying! 
I am still confuse with symmetry. My .mol file for B is

INTGRL
B DHF                                                        
Basis from dalton
C   1   2  Y  X
       5.    1
B     .0000000000        0.0000000000        0.0000000000
LARGE BASIS cc-pCVDZ
FINISH

That means I chose C2v symmetry in calculation. It seems DHF use C2v. 
So, do you means KR-CI will automatically use C2 group in calculation? Why? Does KR-CI use low order group to avoid some difficulties arise by degenerate irreps?

Furthermore, If C2 symmetry is used, Dirac use 1 and 2 label to Boson irreps, 3 and 4 label to Fermion irreps. Is it correct?

Bingbing Suo
Institute of Modern Physics, Northwest University
229 Taibaibei Road
Xi'an, Shaanxi 710069
            bs...@nwu.edu.cn


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发件人: Bingbing Suo <bingbi...@gmail.com>
主题: KR-CI problem
日期: January 14, 2013 3:25:17 PM GMT+08:00

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Stefan Knecht

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Jan 16, 2013, 3:47:07 AM1/16/13
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Dear Bingbing,


On 16/01/13 09.38, Bingbing Suo wrote:
Dear Stefan,

Thank you for replying! 
I am still confuse with symmetry. My .mol file for B is

INTGRL
B DHF                                                        
Basis from dalton
C   1   2  Y  X
       5.    1
B     .0000000000        0.0000000000        0.0000000000
LARGE BASIS cc-pCVDZ
FINISH

That means I chose C2v symmetry in calculation. It seems DHF use C2v. 
So, do you means KR-CI will automatically use C2 group in calculation? Why? Does KR-CI use low order group to avoid some difficulties arise by degenerate irreps?
indeed, the SCF uses C2v but KR-CI will use C2. i can't remember why exactly though but in general it will use Abelian sub-groups with non-degenerate irreps.

Furthermore, If C2 symmetry is used, Dirac use 1 and 2 label to Boson irreps, 3 and 4 label to Fermion irreps. Is it correct?
yes. :)

to summarize, unless you have a very good reason for it, i strongly recommend to use the highest possible symmetry of your system in order to save computational time and memory.

with best regards,

stefan


Bingbing Suo
Institute of Modern Physics, Northwest University
229 Taibaibei Road
Xi'an, Shaanxi 710069
            bs...@nwu.edu.cn

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