Korg Kronos Audio Input
Keith Cogswell
I've had to set the Kronos audio ins to Line, dial the gain knobs on the rear panel back a bit, then lower the touchscreen faders down as well...all this helps reduce the native noise and hiss I'd get.
No, take advantage of the feature. Note, you can set the audio ins at the global level or individually at the Program/Combi level. This is also a great way to incorporate FXs such as the Vent. It keeps things simple.
To piggy back on this it appears the Kronos doesn't have XLR audio inputs like my Yamaha. My Vocal/Vocoder mic is currently a Shure headset. I use this Radial AB box to swtich between the FOH snake and the vocoder.
2) I've run into issues with dynamic range. Use compression/expansion if you can. It's easy to clip the Kronos inputs and difficult to get a good hot output. If you compress what's coming in, it helps a lot.
3) I've had lots of issues with ground loops and impedance matching with the Kronos. 99 times out of 100, I get better sound running the Kronos outputs through a High Quality DI. That's my experience. YMMV
I had question about routing mics into the Kronos on a different thread. My question was about the adapter needed to convert the XLR to 1/4" Just wonder if any run of the mill adapter works or if there is some sort of transformer adapter that is needed.
In the short time I've been doing this, I've noticed the same thing. It's difficult to get the output from my Vent at the same level as the other voices in a combi. I was thinking I might try routing the audio ins through an insert effect with a limiter or something. The downside is that would kill some of the dynamic changes of the drawbars and overdrive. Can you expand on what you're doing to solve the problem?
Sure it's nice to mix digital and potentially add more effects to the mix input (or not), but it remains so that an extra AD/DA conversion can change the sound. It seldom becomes better (except for intended effects) so it could be a good analog mixer is preferred, then again, you might not know/notice the difference (I'm pretty sure I would)!
Agreed! This is also how I use my setup moxf8/sk1. I'm not sure about the kronos, but the moxf has a dedicated knob on the front panel to adjust the AD input so you can make balance adjustments, quick!
I use the same (but much simpler) feature on my CP4. It has a 1/8" mini stereo jack intended for CD; I plug my NE2 into that using an adaptor cable (1/8" stereo to dual RCA with a pair of RCA-to-1/4" adaptors). Despite the (true) rumors of the NE2's relatively weak output, this works great. The CP4 has no controls whatsoever on this CD input; I regulate the Nord volume using its knobs, and the CP4's using its knobs.
I'm only doing this at one venue, where space is super tight so there's no room for my JBL wedges and thus no need for my powered mixer. Instead I'm using a pair of little Bose Lifestyle powered speakers sitting on the NE2 (hopefully to be replaced by homebrews designed by Dan!) I'm using the CP4's 1/4" outputs to the Bose, and its XLR to feed FOH (with K10's for monitors and we can get enough keys in those for the band without annoying the vocalists.)
The Set List EQ is designed to be a room EQ. You're playing one night and the club is boomy, i.e. everything is boomy, so you EQ that out. The next venue is dead so you add some high-end to compensate. If you're using it as more of a permanent EQ, you're better off hard coding those into the Programs/Combis.
So I don't know of anyway to circumvent it for audio ins. Another approach you might take is to change the bottom piano EQ in an opposite direction. If you added +3db in a certain range on the Kronos, do -3db on the bottom board. EQ is just targeted amplitude changes.
I use a Kronos and a Roland RD700nx. I've got the Roland connected to the Kronos through inputs 1&2, and then 2 pairs of outputs: 1 pair to the band mixer from Main L/R, and another pair to my DXR10 monitor speaker from Outputs 1/2. The problem with this is that I have no control over the monitor levels - outputs 1/2 seem to output at a fixed level and I can't find a way of controlling this from the board - so I have to go down on hands and knees and adjust at the DXR10 - not ideal.
I have a Yamaha MG-06 that sits on top the right side of my Kronos that controls my monitor levels. I originally wanted the Yamaha AG-06 mixer to avoid the wall wart and was just going to power it by USB but I decided to save a $100 and just get the MG-06.
PS - I'm not using a powered cabinet. The MG-06 receives my keyboard mix from my rack and my monitor mix from the front desk or stage monitor mix if we are fortunate enough to have a guy on stage doing dedicated monitor mixing. I use the MG-06 to mix the level for what goes to my IEMs. I could just as easily go to powered speakers.
Thanks for that :-) The best solution I found, with the help of someone on the Korg Forums was simply to swap them round so that Outputs 1/2 are going FOH and the L/R outputs going to the monitor - meaning the main volume knob is now the Monitor control, and leaving the FOH as a fixed volume output.
Does the Master Slider work for you in this instance? I use the digital outs (ADAT) in my studio and the Master Slider does attenuate output whereas the Main Volume knob does not (only affects analog L/R outs). FYI, the Master Slider will reset with each program change
Logic detects the kronos and when i press the keys it shows the note name on the bottom part of the logic screen but i'd like to know if i can record my sounds directly through USB from the kronos to my macbook with nothing else in between.
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Apparently the Kronos can stream its audio out the USB Type B port (the larger, square-like one). You'd need to set the Kronos as the input device in Logic's audio preferences and then you'll be able to record to an audio track. If the Kronos is not available in Logic's audio preferences, you'll have to to install the Kronos driver which is compatible with your version of OSX.
I have been using a Korg Kronus as my main controller for a while now. Since earlier this week (around the time I installed the latest upgrade) cakewalk no longer recognizes the MIDI input from my Kronus USB driver. MIDI-OX sees the input as does Reaper.
What do you see as the input source for the MIDI track? Does it give the name of the USB driver there, or is it set to None? Is the driver listed in the dropdown list of input sources? How about the list of devices in Preferences?
I experienced the same issue but have resolved it. It is a Windows 10 quirk. Go to: (5476) How to get the KORG MIDI USB Driver to work with Windows 10 - YouTube channel: Tim Shoebridge. the midi drivers need to be located in the first 10 or Windows or Cakewalk doesn't see it. Now I have input but I can't hear it, I want to route the output through my Audiobox to my monitors but I can only hear the Kronos through the Kronos headphone jack, I'm sure there's a fix for that too.
Welcome to the forum.
You can't get MIDI through an audio output.
You need to plug the audio outputs of the Kronos into your Audiobox, set up an audio track in Cakewalk to "listen" to that input, and/or to record it.
Or you can Insert a software synthesizer, set output of the Kronos MIDI track as the input of that soft synth. and the output of the soft synth to an audio track to the Audiobox.
I am sort of a neanderthal in finding synth sounds. I have V Collection and Syntronik 2. In some ways, I find Syntronik 2 easier to use, even though V Collection sounds load immediately (maybe because I need to get more presents for V Collection). Basically, I do some research to find synths used but I often just tryout sound after sound until I feel close and then try tweaking parameters seeing what gets closer (I am no sound designer).
I have gone through the process of replacing a bunch of Kronos sounds with VSTs myself and am now gigging with GigPerformer fuily replacing my Mk1 Kronos 73. I was also using some Narf and Audora sounds. I have found that any Kronos sounds that were using its MS20 or PolySix type engines can be pretty accurately recreated using the equivalents in Korg Collection, which I see you already own. The rest of mine have been mostly replaced with Arturia V-Collection sounds plus PianoTeq & Lounge Lizard in my instance as I had the Kronos 73 and used it for my piano sounds whereas it seems you were likely the other way around using your Nord for piano/B3 duties.
Oh, and many times you can pick up transferred licenses (totally legit and apparently mandated by EU law) for great prices. Look at VI Control and k-v-r marketplace forum. (I have not had any bad experiences with that). (On the other hand, I would not touch any cracked software).
Initially I used a kind of hierarchical way, like using small audio mixers (inside GP) to connect stacked sounds together. This shows very good on GP and is very easy to draw in GP, and also very flexible.