Karma, Dharma and Satya - Santana dharma

[Rani Madhavapeddi]

Karma is often misunderstood. Here is a visual depiction of Karma and how it’s interwoven with all around us.

Karma is action with dharma. Dharma is understanding Truth that there is only One Consciousness in all manifestation and non manifestations. 

When you act with a global view of what’s best for all, not just humans but everything that’s manifest, operating from the level of consciousness then this ‘interbeing’ acts only for the good of the non separated existence. 

Then there is no karma or rebirth. 

*This ancient Indian carving explains KARMA better than modern philosophy ever could.*

Look closely.👆

Every knot is connected.

Nothing stands alone. 

1️⃣ In Sanatan Dharma, karma is not punishment.

It is connection.

Every action ties a knot.

Every intention strengthens it.

You don’t escape karma.

You move within it.

2️⃣ See how every loop touches another?

That’s life.

Your words affect someone.

Their reaction affects another.

And the cycle continues.

Nothing is isolated.

3️⃣ At the center stands the doer.

Not as a victim.

Not as a spectator.

But as the creator of consequence. 

In Sanatan thought —

You are both the cause and the experiencer.

4️⃣ Karma is not revenge.

It is balance.

Not fear.

But law.

Just as gravity doesn’t choose sides,

Karma doesn’t miss details.

5️⃣ That’s why our Rishis taught:

Act with awareness.

Speak with dharma.

Think with purity.

Because every knot you tie…

you will one day touch again.

Sanatan never said “be Scared.”

It said be Conscious".

Today’s action.

is tomorro’s destiny.

Rani Madhavapeddi Patel

[Paul Rezendes]

Rani,

That looks like what I was trying to point to this Friday afternoon in our dialogue group.

Paul

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[Rob MacDonald]

Hi All,

This is an interesting thread and deeply perplexing to me.

Briefly, how would others more familiar with karma frame it against this world with the many tragedies we see each day? 

Thanks,
Rob M.

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[Jeffrey Angelson]

Rob, All

What goes around comes around 

Based on intention and or intentional

Acts. 

I don’t really know how to position it in this world but I think it is some kind of spiritual balancing. That is not very clear so if anyone can add clarity it’s appreciated. 

Jeff Angelson

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[inca...@gmail.com]

Hi All, 

A could of questions, please feel free to jump in :) 

What explained/interpreted well about karma and applicable in the world perspectives of our mind.

Just not sure following can be said as absolutely True “operating from the level of consciousness then this ‘interbeing’ acts only for the good of the non separated existence. Then there is no karma or rebirth.”

I can be wrong but No karma or rebirth Seems not based on acting for good but knowing that there is no such bad or good act but as happening without labels or one’s interpretation? 

It doesn’t mean one acts for bad. If do, there will be consequences for whatever act not because of karma. 

1. Question is who is operating from the level of consciousness so that interbeing (intervening refers all individuals that are connected? Or oneness) acts only for the good??

2. Is it even possible interbeing to act only for the good of the non separated existence? 

3. What does non separated existence refer? 

Thank you, 

Sunhee 

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[Rani Madhavapeddi]

Paul,

I knew you would resonate with it- 🤩the graphic depicts of interbeingness! 

Dis you see it ? 

Here it is so you don’t have to download.

Just 

Rani Madhavapeddi Patel

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[Rob MacDonald]

Thanks Jeffrey, I was going to leave out some of the context, but perhaps it helps.

So with regard to some of the awful things we see in the world people find themselves in the wrong place, at the wrong time.  Like the war happening right now, missiles into a school full of children and teachers... shows the utter interconnectedness of this place, but I am not seeing how kids can be "the creator of consequence".  I guess one could say those kids also carry karma from past lives and maybe cosmically found themselves in the right place at the right time according to their karma, but my goodness that feels awful to even think that. 

Also, Doesn't thinking with purity suggest volition of some sort?  What if one's karmic load is such they just cannot think purely?  How is transformation possible?  Are those with purer souls placed in difficult times or situations, while those with more bad karma to burn off put in locales and scenarios where they will have more opportunity to balance?  If it is about balance wouldn't it mean instead of being reincarnated as a bait fish, someone like Ghengis Khan would be reincarnated as a venerable monk?

This is why I am thinking I just don't have a good grasp on karma, and wanted to ask, because while it may be 'like gravity', we are witness to events every single day, actions we take, we see others take, and sometimes given our mental disposition, or history of trauma doesn't easily allow for a life of complete holiness.

My Two Cents...
-Rob M.

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[Dan Kilpatrick]

Jeff, Rani, All,

This may be very simplistic, but karma (to me) simply boils down to the simple (yet living) fact that there has never, ever been anything separate in the universe. Once in motion, it affects us all, and comes back to us in its own unknown and mysterious way. Affected/affecting are really the same thing......

But this can't be turned into a conclusion (intellectual fact) without losing its immediacy and meaning. It is either realized or not.....

So what happens when there is love, the real deal, that comes of its own as human action? Of which we have nothing to do? Is this also affecting the entirety in ways that can't be measured? Maybe this is often overlooked, its significance.....

Enough words from me,  -Dan

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[Jeffrey Angelson]

Rob All,

I am not certain what it is   I don’t feel that I can look at the way you describe. Of course the children might have got the karma from past lives. I just think when I said it’s balancing I thing it’s balancing the whole. It’s balancing This. 

Jeff Angelson

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[Jeffrey Angelson]

It’s great. 😊 

Jeff Angelson

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[Jeffrey Angelson]

Dan All

I find the question about love is pointing to something I have realized and focused on. I think everything affects everything. The affect is on the One. How that Impacts everything is when I realize that Parts are The Whole. I think it’s a Holographic Principle of the Universe and it helps me understand Non Duality better.  The issue is that I could be wrong. 😑 

Jeff Angelson

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[Paul Rezendes]

All,

Please note that Sunhee sent an email in on this thread. However, somehow it didn't come into the thread. Just want to mention this so that people don't miss her email.

Paul

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Dan All

I find the question about love is pointing to something I have realized and focused on. I think everything affects everything. The affect is on the One. How that Impacts everything is when I realize that Parts are The Whole. I think it’s a Holographic Principle of the Universe and it helps me understand Non Duality better.  The issue is that I could be wrong. 😑 

Jeff Angelson

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Jeff, Rani, All,

This may be very simplistic, but karma (to me) simply boils down to the simple (yet living) fact that there has never, ever been anything separate in the universe. Once in motion, it affects us all, and comes back to us in its own unknown and mysterious way. Affected/affecting are really the same thing......

But this can't be turned into a conclusion (intellectual fact) without losing its immediacy and meaning. It is either realized or not.....

So what happens when there is love, the real deal, that comes of its own as human action? Of which we have nothing to do? Is this also affecting the entirety in ways that can't be measured? Maybe this is often overlooked, its significance.....

Enough words from me,  -Dan

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Paul,

I knew you would resonate with it- 🤩the graphic depicts of interbeingness! 

Dis you see it ? 

Here it is so you don’t have to download.

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[Paul Rezendes]

Everyone,

What I got from what Rani sent in about karma was simply this: everything is being everything all at once and at the same time. That's what I resonated with.

Paul

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Dan All

I find the question about love is pointing to something I have realized and focused on. I think everything affects everything. The affect is on the One. How that Impacts everything is when I realize that Parts are The Whole. I think it’s a Holographic Principle of the Universe and it helps me understand Non Duality better.  The issue is that I could be wrong. 😑 

Jeff Angelson

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Jeff, Rani, All,

This may be very simplistic, but karma (to me) simply boils down to the simple (yet living) fact that there has never, ever been anything separate in the universe. Once in motion, it affects us all, and comes back to us in its own unknown and mysterious way. Affected/affecting are really the same thing......

But this can't be turned into a conclusion (intellectual fact) without losing its immediacy and meaning. It is either realized or not.....

So what happens when there is love, the real deal, that comes of its own as human action? Of which we have nothing to do? Is this also affecting the entirety in ways that can't be measured? Maybe this is often overlooked, its significance.....

Enough words from me,  -Dan

On Fri, Mar 13, 2026 at 9:18 PM Rani Madhavapeddi <rmadha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Paul,

I knew you would resonate with it- 🤩the graphic depicts of interbeingness! 

Dis you see it ? 

Here it is so you don’t have to download.

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[Rani Madhavapeddi]

Thanks Paul! That’s what I think too. What’s interesting to me is how our perceptions of something are so varied. Each of us looking through our own colored lenses and drawing our own interpretation. 

Is there a way we can communicate where we all reach the same conclusion? 

What if we read or listen to something with no memory, no reflection, no reaction but be with it? 

Just wondering 🤔🤔🤔

Rani Madhavapeddi Patel

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Everyone,

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[Dan Kilpatrick]

Jeff, All,

Jeff, what if love simply reflects the living fact that everything is already itself, just in the nature of everything. In realizing this, might there be love? I guess the word love can be taken in different ways, but for me it means action, flowing naturally from not being separate. It is affection, being affected and affecting all at once.

I'm probably just an outlier here, which is fine.

-Dan

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[Jeffrey Angelson]

Rani All

There is elegance in simplicity. 

Jeff Angelson

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[Rani Madhavapeddi]

I think I shd be silent. A thought came to me that the way I phrased the below mentioned email almost meant don’t share your thoughts and stay silent. I apologize that was not my intent. Sharing is beautiful I enjoy the many different ways that our minds can think and articulate! It’s amazing! 

Love peace and joy ! 

Rani Madhavapeddi Patel

On Mar 14, 2026, at 6:46 AM, Rani Madhavapeddi <rmadha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Paul! That’s what I think too. What’s interesting to me is how our perceptions of something are so varied. Each of us looking through our own colored lenses and drawing our own interpretation. 

[Rani Madhavapeddi]

Jeff, et al 

I agree about the park and the lake or pond or the forest or the sky. When the mind is quiet the movement of all these the leaves of the tree the water the clouds and the birds, in stillness of the mind have a beauty that cannot be scribed. 

That’s my 2 cents Jeff! 

Rani Madhavapeddi Patel

On Mar 14, 2026, at 9:38 AM, Rani Madhavapeddi <rmadha...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think I shd be silent. A thought came to me that the way I phrased the below mentioned email almost meant don’t share your thoughts and stay silent. I apologize that was not my intent. Sharing is beautiful I enjoy the many different ways that our minds can think and articulate! It’s amazing! 

[Jeffrey Angelson]

Rani et al

I am excited about what you are saying.  I spent months sitting in silence and wondering why. I have no idea why that changed. I do know that when my nervous system is quiet all things get richer , more vibrant.  I would go as far as to say magical. 

Jeff Angelson

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[Rob MacDonald]

Just a couple quick things....

Jeffrey, I hope my reply didn't come off as if I was directly responding at your initial response, your response just made me realize I probably needed to add a bit more context of why karma is perplexing to me.

Secondly, All, I guess this is why I have always had a problem with formal religious beliefs.  Karma, an immortal soul, the very subtle mind, anything that has some sort of mystical transient quality is usually used by those in power to manipulate the masses.  I have spent far too long worrying about my 'immortal soul' than I care to admit, so I try to do the best I can each day, the 'I am' is not perfect.

My ultimate question of karma is how exactly is it observable?  Isn't it just a metaphysical guess / belief?

By contrast, Interconnectedness is abundantly available.  It is testable; provides real-time feedback.  I still cannot disprove the interconnectedness of all things, because I can't seem to find anything that exists in isolation, but even so, that could simply be a perceptual issue.

I will admit, it is my brain, which creates ideas and opinions about all sorts of things that is coming up with this, so perceptually I am already biased, and unfortunately it stands to reason that if there is something 'beyond me' that is more 'me' than this 'me that I perceive to be', accessing it requires a falling away of all perception, and Buddhists would say this falling away also includes cessation of memory, which would add another wrinkle.

Here's to not having a clue! 😂

Peace,
Rob M.

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[Rani Madhavapeddi]

I agree, when the mind is quiet you realize everything is beautiful and life is joy. Sath Chith Ananda, translated to Truth, Consciousness, Joy ! 

Rani Madhavapeddi Patel

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[Rani Madhavapeddi]

Dan,

I think this quote from Maya Angelou sums what you said? 

I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel"

Rani Madhavapeddi Patel

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Jeff, Rani, All,

This may be very simplistic, but karma (to me) simply boils down to the simple (yet living) fact that there has never, ever been anything separate in the universe. Once in motion, it affects us all, and comes back to us in its own unknown and mysterious way. Affected/affecting are really the same thing......

But this can't be turned into a conclusion (intellectual fact) without losing its immediacy and meaning. It is either realized or not.....

So what happens when there is love, the real deal, that comes of its own as human action? Of which we have nothing to do? Is this also affecting the entirety in ways that can't be measured? Maybe this is often overlooked, its significance.....

Enough words from me,  -Dan

On Fri, Mar 13, 2026 at 9:18 PM Rani Madhavapeddi <rmadha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Paul,

I knew you would resonate with it- 🤩the graphic depicts of interbeingness! 

Dis you see it ? 

Here it is so you don’t have to download.

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[Ronald Calley]

very clear and well stated

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[Dan Kilpatrick]

Thanks Rani. It occurs to me that being affected is beyond my ability to fully take in. So much is going on that is never appreciated that my mind is unable to grasp how it is being affected. It shows up in our daily interactions, perhaps, but without any need to measure it.  -Dan

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