Who is liberated? | Swami Sarvapriyananda

[Rani Madhavapeddi]

Good Morning!
This is Sarvapriyananda talking about advaita Vedanta or no two.
I know that some don’t find him appealing but there is a clarity in what he is saying that is helpful even if you don’t believe in Vedanta.
Love peace and joy!
https://youtu.be/_uiGJPWoCkg?si=k4oIrKMU9gbw2VHb

Rani Madhavapeddi Patel

[Robert Harwood]

That's a good video. Very clear.

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[Dan Kilpatrick]

Rani and Everyone,

In watching the video, I found it interesting how the words awareness and consciousness are being used here, differently. For those familiar with K and others, it might be confusing. Awareness (as used here) seems to be that which operates within form, as localized (reflected) consciousness, or "ordinary awareness". And the distinction is made between this and pure consciousness. The first is not conscious of itself as being the other, until there is an awakening to not being just localized. At least this is what I came away with.

I find some of this to be a bit unclear, since, it seems to me that pure consciousness (or pick your favorite word), is not an identifiable thing that can be known. So hard for me to speak about it. It is certainly not an experience. And to the question of what I am, it seems to me that I am all the experiencing that is taking place, ongoingly. And the sense of this experiencing having any borders also seems to melt away in looking at it right now. I can't find them, really. But I am surely not seeing the whole enchilada.

The other thing that caught my attention was how he spoke of the conviction of being this body/mind, its factualness. I wonder to what degree many of us actually experience this directly, as a realizing, in a living way. Fully embodied..... We seem to be more caught in the mind (thought), as if it has a reality separate from the body. We tend to not be wholly conscious of the body itself, fully in our senses. And I wonder what happens when we are fully in our senses. Is this now to be awake, meaning alive and open to life's possibilities, its unknownness? Realized?

-Dan

[Rani Madhavapeddi]

Dan, Everyone, 

You are right it can get confusing.

There is Consciousness that’s the Universal consciousness present in everything including us. This of course is the ‘being’ of existence. That is called Chitta or Universal or Pure consciousness. Capital Self.  This I is fully identified with Universal consciousness as in when we are not operating from the thinking mind but let life flow through the body /mind with no identification- Wei wu Wei- action without actor. No separation. The wave is not separate from the ocean. 

Then the other I is the one that operates from thoughts / body mind complex but is dependent on pure consciousness as otherwise the body mind has no existence it is co dependent  on pure consciousness. There is an ‘apparent’ separation but always  dependent on Pure Consciousness. This is the Chidhabhasa or reflected consciousness. This is also a state of ‘awakening’. This is called qualified non dualism. The wave experiences itself as a part of the Ocean. 

The third  awakening accepted in Vedanta is - god/ Consciousness are separate from you and you completely surrender your activities to God/ Consciousness understanding God/ consciousness  is the doer. This awakening is in duality. The person still experiences separation but realizes that he is not the doer. 

All 3 are accepted as ‘Awakened’ states per Vedanta . 

The wave sees itself as separate but the wave surrenders to the ocean. No doership is there. 

My 2 cents. 

Rani Madhavapeddi Patel

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[Dan Kilpatrick]

Thanks Rani, that was quite an exposition. Seems very clear. As I just reading it, it reminded me of what came up at the very end of the dialogue today: We really don't know what we are doing, but we don't have to!

-Dan

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[Rani Madhavapeddi]

IDK is the Truth 🤔😆

Rani Madhavapeddi Patel

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[Rani Madhavapeddi]

Bob, Great to hear from you! How are you? WE miss your presence !

Love, Peace and Joy 

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[Paul Rezendes]

Rani,

I have listened to this swami many times. I don't resonate with Advaita Vedanta. People are seeking permanence whether it's Brahman or a soul. I don't see that there's any permanence, no transcendence. It seems to me that the formless and form are appearing together. Subject and object are not separate, but appear as an experience, always changing, nothing permanent. Seems to me it's probably always been that way. I'm sorry, but I just resonate more with the Buddhist perspective and not with Advaita Vedanta. 

Just my limited take on it.

Paul

[Rani Madhavapeddi]

Paul,

Yes the second way of looking at it similar to your views both coexist - the observer and the observed. This is a concept from Drig Dishya Viveka which traces back to the seer that IS. As far as I know there is no permanence  there just IS consciousness! 

My 2 cents ! 

Rani Madhavapeddi Patel

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Rani,

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[Jeffrey Angelson]

Hi Bob,

Hope all is well. 

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[Graham Inglis]



Dear Dan and all

It is particularly insightful that following the group discussions last Sunday, Dan expressed a new ‘motto’ (meaningful language) to give form to the voices relating to actual ‘live’ events captured by the ‘immediacy’ of living in the so-called conundrum that one encounters with circumstances for which action, or importantly, non-action, action not of our own, emerges from beyond the scope of memorised pressures of past knowledge.

Dan, it’s likely that the words: “We really don’t know what we are doing, but we don’t need to!” did not resonate well enough with the readers who were not participants in our discussion group. However, those words are indelibly enfolded into my internal understanding of the unknown aspects of aliveness. For this, I am grateful on behalf of all those who, by engaging together, played an integral role in its creation. Thank you Dan!!    — Graham 

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On 4 Aug 2025, at 7:50 AM, Rani Madhavapeddi <rmadha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Paul,

Yes the second way of looking at it similar to your views both coexist - the observer and the observed. This is a concept from Drig Dishya Viveka which traces back to the seer that IS. As far as I know there is no permanence  there just IS consciousness! 

My 2 cents ! 

Rani Madhavapeddi Patel

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Rani,

I have listened to this swami many times. I don't resonate with Advaita Vedanta. People are seeking permanence whether it's Brahman or a soul. I don't see that there's any permanence, no transcendence. It seems to me that the formless and form are appearing together. Subject and object are not separate, but appear as an experience, always changing, nothing permanent. Seems to me it's probably always been that way. I'm sorry, but I just resonate more with the Buddhist perspective and not with Advaita Vedanta. 

Just my limited take on it.

Paul

On Aug 3, 2025, at 9:46 AM, Rani Madhavapeddi <rmadha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Good Morning!
This is Sarvapriyananda talking about advaita Vedanta or no two.
I know that some don’t find him appealing but there is a clarity in what he is saying that is helpful even if you don’t believe in Vedanta.
Love peace and joy!
https://youtu.be/_uiGJPWoCkg?si=k4oIrKMU9gbw2VHb

Rani Madhavapeddi Patel

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[Janet Asiain]

Graham, Dan

I heard it! (The “motto”) I would add “And maybe we can’t” 

Janet

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[Dan Kilpatrick]

Thanks Graham, Janet. Not pushing back here, but just to be clear, something like this is never a motto, as this easily becomes a conclusion. It is a realizing that we thought we know what we are doing but never did, and is always in the moment. Realizing or awakening is never a conclusion that continues. It just releases us from the need for conclusions. It is now in our being.....  -Dan

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[Janet Asiain]

Dan, I know — but is a truth that may be discovered and rediscovered — not a motto to remember, needless to say

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[Dan Kilpatrick]

Thanks Janet, right. There is no knowing what might come up in any moment, including forming conclusions/assumed knowings and being attached to them. Living is no longer about what arises, defining what should or shouldn't arise and so on. There is just a sort of un-expecting, even to having expectations/biases. Which really means there really is no time in this.

To me this is saying living is fundamentally undefinable, and yet is also this very defining. The absence of defining can't be defined, nor can defining, itself. Defining, its actual happening in the moment, is not another concept.

My impressions, -Dan

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