TrailRunner 3.7.702 - Mac OSX
Riley Boylan
Again how many miles on the tires? Last winter they were good but once I got some miles on them they lost any traction with precipitation on the ground
What size engine? Maybe the 6.2 is to much for them? Wants to break them loose?
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3,000 miles and I have a 6.2. No doubt the tires spun under power and i could easily kick out the rear, but I always felt under control. The tires were good under normal driving and did a good job when I stomped on the brakes. Take all of this with a grain of salt. This is my first ever truck so I have no idea how other tires would compare to these, so for me, they were a pleasant surprise. My wife drives a Honda Pilot with Conti all seasons and the truck felt better than that. I drove both in the same snow storm. My previous car was an awd Audi with Blizzaks for the winter.
No grip from these tires and the truck slides around like crazy. These are the stock 275/60/20s on the GMC Elevation. I had a '19 trail boss with duratracs and traded it in for a '20 elevation with the trailrunners and it feels like I went from a tank to a prius.
TLDR: I really really like the look of the Wrangler Trailrunner AT and it's just about the exact look I want. But how would they work for lots of highway driving, towing travel trailer, want low road noise, maintain as good fuel mileage as possible? Zero worry about snow/ice.. but does rain here in Houston.
Well this is a disappointed thread for me to find, but very very good at the same time. Will be lifting the truck 2" very shortly and increasing tires to LT 275/65R20 tires. I will have almost no worry about driving in snowy/icy conditions but it does rain quite a bit here. My needs are significantly on pavement, a lot of highway driving, and a good bit of towing a travel trailer. I'm still very sensitive to trying to keep road noise down to a minimum and maintaining as good a fuel mileage as realistically possible. I do not want a pure highway style tire and do not want an aggressive off road tire. A solid all terrain that that may be closer to highway is what I'm looking for vs bordering towards mud. I'm also trying to maintain as close to OEM factory look and even closer to the 2500 HD look. Would like to be pleased visually but am not going for an aggressive/trail boss look or anything.
Continue to go back to the Michelin Defender LTX M/S (although not my favorite look) or Michelin LTX AT2. Came across the Goodyear Wrangler Trailrunner AT seen them on several HD's and Super Duty's and think they look fantastic. Better look than the stock Duelers I have but they don't scream off-road. I really like the look of these the best... would they fit my needs or are they really truly junk? Not in snow but highway and towing how would they hold up?
My truck came with these tires. They've honestly been excellent in the rain and snow but good heavens they're loud. I know that's typical with an A/T tire but I promise you the Duratracs on my K2 were quieter. And the T1 is supposed to be a quieter truck! My buddy bought an RST just before me and it came with Bridgestones. They're way quieter and ride better. Mine only have about 7k miles on them and I'm thinking about dumping them.
Below are links to two different 275/65/R18 DuraTrac tires with very similar load capacity (both not E rated). One is OE (slightly less load capacity) and the other is not (slightly more load capacity). These tires are so close in numbers it leads me to believe it's the GM TPC Spec (spec's compound?) that effects the 3PMS rating.
Getting back to the OP's question about snow performance of his 275/60/20 Trailrunners, they are not 3PMS rated and they don't even make a 3PMS rated version of the Trailrunner. Therefore, I wouldn't expect much from them in the snow. IMHO, the Trailrunners are not even much of an A/T tire. However, the OP did better than I did, my Z71/RST came with Fortitude HT (Highway-Terrain) tires that GM says are All-Terrain tires. In Goodyear, the best A/T with winter traction for the op's truck is probably going to be the 275/60/20, 3PMS, rated Duratrac.
Personally, I wouldn't replace the Trailrunners with another Goodyear tire. I would probably go back to the Pirelli Scorpian AT Plus I had on my last truck or the Cooper AT3 4S (both 3PMS). Both also come in 275/60/20 size.
I took delivery of my 2021 Sierra 3500HD Denali Black Diamond Edition yesterday. It came with the 275/65/20 Goodyear Wrangler Trail Runner ATs. I was surprised to see that they have the 3 Peak Mountain Snowflake.
I took delivery of my 2021 Sierra 3500HD Denali Black Diamond Edition yesterday. It came with the 275/65/20 Goodyear Wrangler Trail Runner ATs. I was surprised to see that they have the 3 Peak Mountain Snowflake.
Most, but not all, of the Trailrunners in LT sizes are 3PMS rated and none of the non-LT are 3PMS rated. Whereas, the DuraTrac have 3PMS in both LT and non-LT sizes. I hope I meant to say earlier is they don't even make a 3PMS version of the Trailrunner in the OP's size of 275/60/20. (Although, I could have just been completely wrong in what I said earlier). They do, however, make a non-LT 3PMS version of the DuraTrac in the OP's size (which was a secondary discussion in the thread).
GM probably spec'd the LT, therefore 3PMS, version Trailrunner on your truck because it's an HD. I imagine GM will continue with their non-3PMS, TPC spec'd, Trailrunner on the 1500 series trucks. I no longer live where it snows but if I did I would want a 3PMS rated All-Terrain tire.
Anyone have issues with the trailrunners in the snow? Coming off our first snowfall in Western NY and I am extremely disappointed in the performance of the trailrunners in the snow. No grip from these tires and the truck slides around like crazy. These are the stock 275/60/20s on the GMC Elevation. I had a '19 trail boss with duratracs and traded it in for a '20 elevation with the trailrunners and it feels like I went from a tank to a prius. Others experiencing similar performance issues with the trailrunners? I like the gas mileage and noise levels of the Elevation as compared to the trail boss but would consider going back with how this thing slides around in the snow. Interested in what others have experienced.
I pulled mine with only 10K mile on them. I liked them on dry ground, sketchy in the rain and terrible in the snow. If you look at Tire Racks site, they sell a lot of them simply because they are cheap tires. Knowing what I know now, I would have had the dealer switch them new so I could get some money back for them. I got $25.00 a tire for them trade in with 10K miles on them. I would highly NOT recommend those tires.
OEM tires are not chosen based on snow or off-road performance. I have no experience with the Trailrunners, my ride came with the Goodyear Wrangler SRAs. They were EXTREMELY ok tires, similar to what you are probably experiencing. Not good, but not terrible, just ok.
My advice is to put your mind into saving up the cost of snow tires for winter use . You'll get an extra year or two out of your other set. I'm 55 and deeply regret not doing it years ago. I just started last year and the difference on snow is nothing short of spectacular. I may only get two winters out of my Blizzak's because I drive so much but it's more than worth it. If I made more money I would put a brand new set on every winter. Like all tires they truly shine when new.
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