TrueRTA is Windows software application which provides the functions of an audio test system that includes a Signal Generator, Real Time Analyzer, Oscilloscope and SPL Meter. TrueRTA applications include home theater sound, audio/acoustics test and measurement, car audio and music production.
TrueRTA is offered at 4 levels of performance. Level 1 is FREE and provides a one-octave real time analyzer, a signal generator and oscilloscope. Everyone is encouraged to download and use the free version. No special hardware is required and the free version never expires.
I am configuring a new shop laptop and would like to carry around something that allows me to do a relatively high resolution RTA/FFT (say 1/24th octave), has an ocillascope function, and it would be nice to have a THD/THD+N along with a signal generator section.
It would also be nice to be able to save/compare plots, and even better would be to generate a sine wave that gates from full set level to a lower set level with a defined "mark-space" ratio for short term burst testing.
I think A&H put something out for free a couple years back. I am running Smaart 5.4 and have tried TrueRTA and remember looking over the A&H software, neither were as satisfying as Smaart. Find someone that is willing to split the cost with you. I tested the newest version a while back and really liked it. I have a friend who is going to teach a Smaart class here in Charlotte soon. Looking forward to it.
The cost is a small part of it, I am looking for something that's relatively simple, and I have struggled enough with installing sound cards or at the very least supporting the sound card compatability issues that it takes away from getting the basic job done. I am actually looking at various USB2 mic pres that eliminate having to carry around a power supply and other pieces.
For what I am doing, TrueRTA still looks like the best BASIC tool... but SMAART is still the other obvious contender because it has some nice features that the others don't have. The last thing I want to get involved with though, is a glitchy product that takes me away from getting the job done.
I think is involves adjustments of the master volume and the dynamic range slider, in order that each key press, hard or soft (i.e., all velocities) will result in sound volume that approximate the real thing.
In order to achieve this, I need the maximum sound level (SPL level) and dynamic range of the reference pianos. Then I can adjust the volume and dynamic range in my Pianoteq setup so that my sound meter will read the same.
Is the information about the maximum sound level and dynamic range of each of the reference pianos (or one set of number in general if all the pianos are very similar) available? Or is this the proper way to approach this?
I would imagine Pianoteq has already done that for you in default mode. All you have to do is get a decent sound system, adjust the volume of your controller/Digital Piano to the strength you desire it. If it was a grand, I'd guarantee you'd turn it down . . . . .they are LOUD!
Even the most beautiful ones can certainly hurt your ears played long enough. It's a quality reason to use a smaller piano mostly at home or in practice with the lid down often (IRL that can take away a lot of treble which might be the first area of hearing damage to show up).
It's a thing worth considering - if you do intend to play at realistic volumes, please do always care for your ears and keep it to a play-through, or performance at a time, but definitely do limit the times at full volume. For me, the suspension of disbelief is enough at around 70 to 80 dB so hoping others might feel OK at that range too. At very least, hope that helps you save your hearing - you have pretty golden ears judging by your lovely work with the Bluthner!
Also - keep in mind a grand is by nature projecting sound waves to fill a large space - so as beautiful as they can sound loud, putting one in a small physical space may not sound as good up close as one on an acoustically appropriate stage (but in headphones and in recordings of course very fine coming out 2 speakers - but maybe just not for the purposes of player positional realism - if that makes sense.) Small spaces among other things can include big thumping early reflections among other things subjected to high bassy audio. So, some tweaking of presets might be a good thing to get to grips with. A few quick thoughts, include lowering 'early reflection' in reverb, altering reverb 'tone', using an EQ preset or making one to reduce some bass. That's before getting to other issues like running things through a DAW of choice and using some plugins gain a studio level of control over more aspects of your sound.
I suppose you will require your sound system to achieve over 100dB (with realism as goal). Depending on your budget, you could go for horns or speakers (new or used). To me, with speakers size does count (realism). Small close ones may sound OK for practice etc.. but you will struggle to recreate something sounding realistic in your space (esp. grand fortissimo). For most people I believe stereo speakers above 8inch can give reasonable 'suspension of disbelief' in a comfortable range.. adding a sub-woofer can be a fairly simple step up.
There are some really helpful forum members like dklein (a decent fellow) has interesting posts here about his setup and future setup ideas. There are many forum threads about multi-speaker setups. Such as, in addition to stereo speakers, using others pointing upwards, pointing outwards. I haven't made a dedicated setup like it (have done much work with speakers though) but can imagine, you'd want to move your excellent Yamaha controller back from the wall if possible and position speakers around the virtual area of the body in various directions - and you could perhaps decide on those directions based on the virtual microphones inside the microphone panel.
Like most of these kinds of things, there's no absolutely correct way to do it - but the journey is half the fun - definitely post back as you make your choices, I'm sure there are some excellent ideas on other threads and some members with their own experiences in making similar rigs.
If you wish to spare no expense there are many interesting audio systems which you could collect up into quite a studio. If budget is tight there could be some really good used speakers you might be able to purchase. If recording/monitoring/mixing/etc. you might want to bite on some newish flat monitors, but if you're most interested in playing in the moment, maybe some large used speakers could be ideal.
B: always, about the sound level, I was always surprised with Pianoteq by a very important level shift between:
* playing .midi files from Minnesota International Piano-e-Competition (recorded on a Yamaha Disklavier Pro), much higher level than:
* the game on a midi keyboard (in my case my Casio GP500 midi output-> Pianoteq), with a linear velocity curve, regardless of the level of pressure on the keys, from ppp to fff.
NB1: In the case of listening with headphones, I tried to estimate the perceived sound level from the sensitivity characteristics of headphones (n db for 1V at 1khz "at its" impedance at this frequency, by modulating the value of the perceived sound level according to the losses in db according to the frequency from the frequency response curve of the manufacturer of the headphones). The measurement of the voltage was made with an electronic voltmeter, calibrating it at 50 Hz according to the sound level of the sinusoidal signal generator (trueRTA software+inboard audio soundcard), and by measuring, beforehand, at a level in db given by the generator, the level of weakening of the set (generator + voltmeter) when the frequency becomes higher or lower between 15hz and 20khz to "try" to avoid bias in the measurement.
NB2: For the moment, I give up all Pianoteq measurements with loudspeakers, because for a regular room, it would be ideal to arrange the walls and the ceiling as well (cheaper than the Festival Hall of Bayreuth or Carnegie Hall but not really economic ( neither very aesthetic)
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Probably quite a few long term headphone wearing dpiano players might find it interesting to swap their headphones around L&R R&L. It may sound quite strange at first and hopefully for most it's just a novel thing to try but long term exposure to quite different signals left and right might result in hearing changes, whether physical or temporal. I try to mix up the use of B/A and A/B settings and audience perspective too but a lot of people will prefer B/A for realism's sake.
Thank you so much for your valuable input. Prior to posting my goal was to reproduce the exact specifications of the "reference" piano perfectly. Now I realize that this may not be the best goal. As the reference piano, placed in my small living room is likely going to be overwhelming, unsuitable and will hurt my ears. Got to be sensible with this...70 - 80 db it is..
There's little reason not to have speakers capable of 100+dB if you like (and enjoy it in not grinding long time frames genuine crescendo can be awesome and it may be so inspiring to be able to experience above 80 - most music/playing though might indeed fall to 60 or 80 anyway if headroom is dynamically kind of real and you have great skill with range) - and lucky for us we can always control how loud we run the audio - I mostly still feel near realism at or below 80dB, thankfully or I wouldn't suggest it possible.
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