John Galt and Wilhelm Reich
Mark Ty-Wharton
issues LOL...
In responsibility, as far as I understand it, neither the mystic, nor
the narrator nor the following have any in this video!
Responsibility, as far as I understand it, is about being cause in the matter.
The mystic (as depicted here, is an egotistical escapist) and his
followers are passive escapists.
The narrator is just a complaint about the mystic and the following
looking good in the pretense of creating a solution.
All have *found* "God" by the way, but that's a longer conversation
which includes coffee, a flight to New Jersey an orange and a man
named TP.
Me, I am discovering my identity is a random reaction to the patterns
that have created my life to date.
Only two things are certain in life (for me).
1. I am going to die one day
2. I am experiencing life from a unique perspective which is neither
more nor less valid than anyone else's
Unless I am two, then my experience is not unique because I and I both
experience it.
But duality doesn't stand up well to scrutiny.
I know I am experiencing myself experiencing myself - I have an
awareness of my awareness as I and I have an awareness of your
awareness as a seperate I. The only question I haven't answered is, is
the I that is aware of being aware the same I you have that is aware
of being aware?
*bang* that was a neuron blowing a circuit -)
Cheers
Mark
Oinarp Mot
I found a formula to find connectedness.
I write about what perspective the person has who is different and I
find
a commonality within that system.
That helped me out a great deal with running simultaneous.
Now, running simo. is a bitch.
Running self is even more draining for me though.
Today I shall run other. I shall go to the vibration of the person
I am with and become them.
I am a lovelily butterfly.
I am a 17 year old beautiful girly.
I am...
Oh yes, so we have a family meeting yesterday of which I was part of
the focus.
Is Tom stealing money from the folks?
Outcome. Tom is not stealing money, he deserves money.
I told them to keep it for now. Pay for gas and the phone bill.
Some good came out of it.
In the end, the overall feeling was: I come from a family born of the
negative hypnosis of judgment and conditions.
One of my brothers says, I don't like what Bobby is doing with those
really young girls.
Bob is 59 and some of the women/girls he's dated were almost 22 years
of age.
Be like me and think like me or else I will not love you.
Also, there is even one brother who lives according to the worse case
scenario.
What if you go out right now and get hit by a car and become a
paraplegic?
My only response was, "Huh?"
Strange days in deed.
Must make money and leave ASAP.
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neurons.... Lighting up
*bang* enlightening
sorry to be posting so many responses in videos from YouTube visual
and auditory... You can almost feel this... You know...
So should I change my pattern
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDZEJdoakWc&feature=youtube_gdata
Or do people fall into a pattern...
Remembering.
There once was a cook that couldn't write and somebody wrote on a wall
about a mirror and polishing and keeping it clean... Like it was some
kind of Zen thing... And this cook ask someone what it said because he
couldn't read. After they read it to him the cook said NO that's not
correct... And asked this person to write something on the wall next
to it. He had him write something like "there is no mirror"
Just think back to the Matrix and the young boy saying something about
there is no spoon it's the mind that bends... The mind is just like
the mirror.. There is no mind... In NLP they might ask "How do you
know"
instead I posted this new YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDZEJdoakWc&feature=youtube_gdata
Rick
Mr. Twenty Twenty
Enjoying your comments.
I'm gonna add in Hawkins LOC chart.
Feely good "emotional" types are in the 300's - assuming they have
integrity. Those are "the feely good mystics" that are out there.
The Intellectuals - John Galt's and Reich folks, seem to get the
"science reality" of the 400's. They see MIND as "the core".
The real Mystics - 500 and above - really are "angelic" and get that a
"loving energy / awareness" is the core.
All of them are better than the FORCE (below 200 / integrity) based
folks, who really believe that power comes from a gun, etc.
Me, I've played well in the 400's, and continue to do so, making
distinctions, building platforms.
The 500's and up are "home" to me though.
Taking it to "money".
The 300's folks, they can make a fck ton of money. Get people feeling
good, and you'll get paid, paid well. Common sense and mystical
spirituality. Joe Vitale is one of those folks. His mistake, he
thinks / feels that he is playing in the 600's - Enlightenment.
I don't doubt that Joe has bumped into some 500 / maybe even 600
stuff. But he's not there. You can't sell "Hoshun" and be in a
Non Duality place.
Werner, his work calibrates in the 400's, and I suspect he does too.
Strong work, very linear, with just enough "space" to bump into the
500's. Werner found a great way to make money and provide a great
service from that level, by making sure that the 300's were well taken
care of too.
Just some observations and thoughts.
Whoo yah!
20/20
PS: I've smoked cigars and ate meals with the real Joe Vitale. I
have also spent a few hours with a personal assistant to Werner. Both
of those sets of experiences give me "off net" data about the men, and
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What is a non-duality world?
I always need story, analogy or examples for my understanding.
Analogy works the best especially golf analogy.
Crush'it, with the UnGolf Pro
Crushed it.
Crush it
Jeannine
erect our bullwarks, put our canons on them, line up our soldiers, and
entrench ourselves in all types of stupidity. Maybe I am wrong. I'll
be honest and state that I fear doing just that, and I wish to avoid
crystalization of my dogmas.
To our original point, the basic problem with mysticism is not taking
responsibility for myself.
I like spiritual teachings that point to the person being her own/his
own master.
Ayn Rand's character "John Galt" states that, Reich states that, and
the best spiritual teachers I have ever read state that.
I also really like freedom. I love Reich's quote above the movie.
Brilliant,
Jeannine
PS: BTW, I fucking hate Ayn Rand, but so what? If her character says
the truth, then does she make it any less true by being a jerkwad
(bare with me and assume my opinion is the right one for a second)?
Truth can only become less true in my own mind.
dan johnson
in describable,
the duality comes from the act of describing / thinking on just a small bit of life, forgetful and unaware of our place in the cosmos
the world is coherent and confluent with its self
when our experience thrives we resonate more with the "bigger picture"
Life operates from a non-duality,
Humans are blessed with the tremendous ability to think.
to balance this we were also provided the opportunity to become programmed to ... and forget the "bigger picture"
that our experience is non-dualistic.
The chinese call the brain a curious organ. it is continiously growing and changing,
the old chinese referred to it as curious because they couldnt understand why we had one? it just got in our way from being one with the tao
this post feels good,
thank you all
ps. i miss remarkable
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ppp rrrr eeee tttttt yyyyyy cccccc ooooo oooooo lllllll
M.A.O.M., L.Ac.
Dipl. OM (NCCAOM)
Dipl. ABT (NCCAOM)
CP Zen Shiatsu (AOBTA)
Wuji
Simply said duality... an illusion
Past is much of dream as the future.
Distort, Delete, Generalies
There is only now.... You are a toad,
or a butterfly, or a dog
chasing his tail...
But what fun that would be... was... LOL
TP when you can physically hit that golf ball
in the a game that you already played and lost and change history...
Now Then
Wait... That is what people do.... Like fishing and the story of how
big it is.... I've watched friends fish they've caught grow bigger and
bigger over the years... And they've (the fish in this example) have
been dead for years and they are still growing if I listen to their
stories...
Do you hear that.... the sound... of birds... singing... Tweet Tweet
A dog barking... The sound of one hand....
Duality
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> own master.
I totally agree - this is the power of the soul
greg
So who decides who is where on the scale, and how much does
perspective/ filters play in that?
Why does someone feel they are far from where they really are? Who
can see it? How do we avoid "mis-seeing" ourselves? As TT seems to
have said (or something like this, sorry), Is what we 'see' (in
someone, where they are on the scale, etc.) what really runs the
show?
I know people who seem they are up there, but I know a few of their
secrets, too. For example, I knew of one man who many regarded as a
very spiritual intellectual. I had a personal experience with him, I
interpreted he was running "asshole", which seemed to be ordinary...
I later met his wife, who was in a simple "rehab" program for
destroyed self-esteem (thanks at least in part to husband's constant
belittling her, etc.).
I know other people who have very evident problems, yet are either
really rich in the hidden, simple and good, great for their
circumstances: basically, a very high level. I know one man who
outside is often judged as "asshole" (and rightly so, action-wise) but
runs covert "love the best I can with me", and it's usually deeper
than anyone else in the same circumstances could.
Which one "counts"? Or do they all? Is it just working in different
directions, from different starting points?
(Is scaling only best done by "tapping into the energy"? Does Hawkins
mention that? You know--pendulum, dowsing?)
And is this true?:
"2. I am experiencing life from a unique perspective which is neither
more nor less valid than anyone else's"
Unique perspective--yeah, though similar. Did you choose your eyes?
Did you write your own "script" (a la Richard Wilkins)?
What is meant by "valid"? If one's filters are purer than another's,
does that make one's perspective more valid? I would say, yes.
But is that the point of it all? Or is that just part of it?
If I do my best according to my perspective, which is unknowingly
impure, am I doing better than the person with the pure perspective
that's not really doing?
"Master"... what is the meaning? That power comes from within? Or
responsibility? Responsibility to me means an ability to chose and be
master as a basis.
Some thoughts... ;)
Mark Ty-Wharton
If you woke up this morning and you have an experience of your own
awareness and you get present to it and DON'T compare to any other
life experience you have had or to anyone elses experience you are
probably as enlightened as Hawkins (it is okay for me to compare your
experience to Hawkins' experience if I am not enlightened?)
If you believe you are your story - then that is a different experience
Everything is valid
All experiences have results
It is all a game
Measuring where you are on a scale is a game that takes you out of the
game
This email is sent from the sidelines LOL
Mark
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Wuji
Hey Mark
Data MAN.... Collecting without comparing... This is... Without
emotion... Letters on a page... Does this spell a W O R D 2 U
Look to bucky... Fuller... Giggle
keep you eye on the ball
as everything
COMES
together... Now
4U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOoCHQIyF0s&feature=youtube_gdata
Wonderous bounce bounce bounce
enlightening
Fuller, Bucky: Giggles
Rick
PS - instead of giggles many may... Want to google TENSEGRITY and look
for more data to play with... Some will... Come and come and come
again.... To the say... Conclusion.... Interesting... I hear the
Buddha Laughing... WHY? TENSEGRITY
On Feb 5, 4:55 am, Mark Ty-Wharton <mark.tywhar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> fuck Hawkins rediculous scale - what has it got to do with anything?
>
> If you woke up this morning and you have an experience of your own
> awareness and you get present to it and DON'T compare to any other
> life experience you have had or to anyone elses experience you are
> probably as enlightened as Hawkins (it is okay for me to compare your
> experience to Hawkins' experience if I am not enlightened?)
>
> If you believe you are your story - then that is a different experience
>
> Everything is valid
>
> All experiences have results
>
> It is all a game
>
> Measuring where you are on a scale is a game that takes you out of the
> game
>
> This email is sent from the sidelines LOL
>
> Mark
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
Mark Ty-Wharton
Does this spell oeowy09csdcoiu9djbx8 to you :)
Wuji
as you can tell spelling isn't one of my best subjects... At one time
they talked about delexisa (sp?)... Lables lables random lables...
Like a flower notice the wonders...
Buddha once shared enlightenment in...
A flower... With the flower... Compared in a flower
Flowers are pretty... DON'T YOU THINK
picture that... The smell
in the Movie The Matrix
Smith said "It's The SMELL"
blooming... We are
Rick
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There are those who use Hawkins Scale for Ego purposes. There is a
temptation for that. That definitely takes us into a "game over"
zone.
If you look at the benefits of that chart, it breaks down human
experience into many very identifiable groups, that helps the user
really get where someone is coming from.
Both them and other people.
For example, my friend Joe comes entirely from DESIRE on Hawkins
scale. Everything he says and does fits in nicely with what DH has
on that level. So I know, where Joe is coming from, what his
predictable responses will be, what his stories will be, and I know
when to trust him, and when not to.
I don't trust Joe with my money, my cats, or my wife. I could trust
him to motivate people in a very worldly way for example.
Note: Joe at anytime can experience a higher level, or re commit his
entire life to a higher level. As it is, DESIRE is a much more
energetic level than Depression or Fear would be. Some folks commit
to those levels.
Some thoughts...
Someone in the level of the Intellect (400 ish)is going to have some
very different perspectives and problems than someone in the levels of
Emotion (300) or Spirit (500).
And the experience of those who are living in the levels of Anger,
Depression, Pride are going to be WILDLY different than those who are
truly in the Intellect level.
All of them, above the level of integrity have their plus points,
their gifts to the world. Einstein at 499 (high intellect) had his
gifts to humanity. Padre Pio at 570 had his gifts too. Neither was
better, both were different.
Experiencing the levels below the level of integrity give us
opportunities to grow and learn.
And relative to Greg's post....
There are those who are reasonably "advanced" on that scale of
consciousness, who have some real "issues" with stuff that is "below
the line".
Hawkins himself suffered from Addiction. Addiction has tons of below
the line components, like Pride, Anger, Desire....
On another hand...
I trained with a guy who was pretty "up there". For a while he got
"the spirit of god is within all things". Then he got "the spirit of
god is within". Then he got, "the spirit of god is within ME ONLY."
Then he got that he created God, and that.....
It was sad to watch him fall. A lot of good came through his work,
then he became the creator of god.
Note: He doesn't say any of this in public. But if you hang after
hours.... that's where the good stuff shows up.
Oinarp Mot
That is a mouthful.
Last month with the help of Twenty, Jeanine, Mark and others and when
I mean others
I mean those on the forum and not, found the meaning of life.
I have been searching for it and like the holy grail was seemingly
impossible to find.
And it turns out to be an extremely simple reason why I am here.
It is individual.
It is personal.
It is deeply important to my development as a human being.
And here it is...
I am here to learn how not to judge.
I am here to stick up for myself.
So my personal circumstances are created to put me in situations that
make those developments happen.
Simple:
I come from a very judgmental family.
I also come from a family of bullies.
You make the call on that one.
I am also the youngest so everyone growing up was a bit of a giant.
I also believe I come from mostly a place of spirit.
Spirit
Mind
Emotions
Body
Since I am coming from a position of spirit and my brothers and family
are coming from a position of body or matter there is
going to be a clash of sorts, an explosion. During my lifetime I have
been placed in situations where I was supposed to fight or flight.
Sometimes I did it out of fear. Sometimes I did it out of love.
Sometimes I did it out of...but most of the time I flew.
I compromised myself for the good of all, for the good of my family,
for the good of survival.
Twenty sees this and tells me I have to develop a little self.
He knows things, the bastard.
And it only took 49 years to do it in.
Anyway, there is probably more but...
I believe this entire life is in place for me to:
Open my heart.
Oh yes...I forgot. My mother didn't express love in which I wanted.
It doesn't mean she isn't a wonderful person but she didn't touch or
say I love you until about six months ago.
That was about the time I realized something in me healed.
It also allowed me to say no to her.
It made me angry but...
It made me sad.
I resented having to but..
Develop a little self by sticking up for myself.
Learn to have to love myself.
Those are the big ones.
Anyway, hope that helps.
I love me all.
Thomas
Oinarp Mot
Oinarp Mot
I also know something else.
When I am giving a golf lesson something interesting happens.
Spirit, mind, emotions and matter all line up together to make this
powerful
expression and I get paid for it in the area of matter.
There is nothing in my life other than this where I have ever gotten
paid.
For me it is pure and of the spirit.
It is thought out and of the mind.
I am passionate about the outcome that of emotion
and both the student and I get something tangible out of it.
they get to hit the ball better, improve their games and lots of other
stuff and I get money so I can sustain myself.
What do you think of that?
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to material goods, correct?
You're also getting paid on other levels, which is why you love doing
what you doing. Make sense?
(That's also why we usually buy what we buy--like why I just bought
even more TT stuff...)
You're getting "paid": spirit, mind, emotions and matter.
So I get that you're fulfilled on all four levels, is that right?
TT, I guess this is part of that old "do what you were made to do"
thing?
-=-=-=
Oinarp Mot
It is knowing that all is right in the universe.
As said, when all of these "things" align for me then I seem to not only
be affective but...yes, fulfilled, filled.
Others are attracted to it because there are so few examples of it in
the world
that I live in. More and more I have noticed because of this simple
realization how people are missing one or two of the parts.
Mind you...as I see it I see it in myself with other aspects of my life.
The only difference between let's say my working and love life is...
I seem to get stuck in the intellect, does not mean I am smart but
thinking.
So in order to move on into the realm of true romance I have to
get emotional and feeling.
Of course this is all my take on it and if anyone has a comment
please reveal to me my prejudices.
Rule One: We are all Fucked Up!
Rule Two: When in doubt Refer to Rule Number One.
Wuji
Romance.... I have been in love... What a wonderous wonderful and deep
connecting to be loved and be In live... There are many
relationships... Mystical relationship between man and evil spirits...
Relationship of property and value... The shared acceptance and
surrender on to a loving relationship... Recieving and sharing...
Touching...
Romance... The nurturing of and the playfulness like the mouse poking
touching and playing while exploring the world of romance... The
vision to look a head and to share a vision of life in romance...
Nope... Been a few years... Can't say I know anything about it. Seem
so long ago maybe it was just a dream... For was I a butterfly
dreaming I was Rick or am I Rick who once dreamed heveas a
butterfly...
I do have pictures of flowers and the sweet scent floating in the air
and that sweet taste that lingers long after reminding one of spring
of one's wonderous life...
Rick
Oinarp Mot
I love it.
I seem to be more in tune with poetry these days for some reason.
Do we remember the dream or the nightmare?
I remember all the many woman I have fell in love with.
They were all great.
They all had problems.
I had/have problems.
At the time I thought love was the answer.
Love me love me say that you love me.
And I would compromise myself and sacrifice myself for love.
It didn't matter who I was sacrificing myself for and had
nothing to do with being a martre.
It had everything to do with being in a situation that revealed
who I was and who I should be.
I appreciate all those beautiful women for...being so bitchy and as
crazy as I.
Now, I can go back in my memory and fantasize about how great being with
them was or how if only or....
Or I can that most if not all people are asleep and there is very
little we can
do to wake many of them up so if we realize rule one: "everyone is
fucked up"
Then our responsibility is not to awake anyone else up but to wake
ourselves up.
In the process there will be waves to made and fires to be put out.
In that instance, I believe or am learning to allow those people who
do not get it
to stay asleep.
?
TP
Wuji
I believe in the bible it say something about human nature is to be
with another... Humans are social animals... And that is one of gods
best gifts is that of sharing life with another.
Wilhelm Riech noticed that when people woke up that their energy
expressed in work and love... There should be expression of both. That
many times people could hide themselves in work... Others in that if
love/sex... Or even loveless sex... Then still others "sit" and do
what ever it takes to limit the amount of energy is they do not
express themselves in the human experience.
As Reich worked with and more people woke up he noticed that these
people would become re-armored or fall back to sleep, back into their
old patterns... That this energy that awakes should be shared and
express. So he started what he called "Sex Clubs." A sex club is not
what you might think... A sex club is where people gals and guys who
woke up persay and would love to meet and share the flow of energy
that is bestowed to them with other like minded people... That this
would be one of the healthiest and could help the community of people
who awoke to share themselve with another in a functional and real
way(s).
The problem that happened with the "Sex Clubs" and Reich shut them
down as soon as he noticed is that many people crash the party you
could say to look simply for sex where it was about power and
controling instead of opening and sharing or learning to open or
awaken more fully. Yet because those Zombies that crash the club Reich
was forced to shut them down.
Actually the were a few case studies where Reich noticed that it would
be harmful or let's say unkind to awaken or free up a person where
they didn't have an oppertunity to share their more open state with
another as thus us a function of life and being mire fully alive.
For some having some walls... Blockages... Which ever you may feel
free to call them... Can be functional as well... The can help a
person maintain a certian amount of freedom and functionality.
Rick
PS - I can see it now "Dharmaville and Twenty Twenty's Sex Club" NO
ZOMBIES ALLOWED
Oinarp Mot
I like it.
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greg
Rule #2: invite them to wake up.
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Mr. Twenty Twenty
Rule #2: Invite them.
I love the posts Greg, TP, Rick.
20/20
PS: I just sent a huge email to a friend, about hiding. I'm really
good at it. And I'm coming out.
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Jeannine
rules as we need them, and everyone makes them differently and changes
them. Perfect!
And Rick, I still see no way to determine if I'm a butterfly having a
dream about Jeannine right now or not. It's an absurd enough question
to want to take it lightly, but I can't adequately give my answer.
Rick could teach the members of a sex club a lot, I think.
Jeannine
PS: And I just want to say, on the subject of sex, that I hope when I
have my law degree I get a bunch of chances to fight for people's
sexual freedom and protections for freedom of expression.
Jeannine
good at it. And I'm coming out."
I admire your courage.
Mr. Twenty Twenty
I admire yours.
Hugs,
20/20
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