[ANN] Devopsdays Paris, Berlin, MountainView , Amsterdam , Downunder and more!

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Patrick Debois

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Apr 2, 2013, 2:34:55 PM4/2/13
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Dear devops enthousiast, (and apologies for the crosspost)

we just wanted to inform you that after a succesfull Devopsdays London we are really picking up steam again:

I'm pretty pleased to announce that devopsdays events will happen at:

More to come in Atlanta , NewYork , London , Tokyo , Bangalore ...

As always we greatly appreciate your proposals and sponsorship. Please keep amazing us!
A big thanks to all the local volunteers and sponsors to make these events awesome.

If you want to stay up to date of new events, please consider registering to the Devopsdays Mailinglist
Also we're slowly putting all past event videos online. With 100+ talks you'll never run out of devops ideas.

The organizers

Jaime Gago

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Apr 12, 2013, 6:25:33 PM4/12/13
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Hey there,
While last year DevOps day in MountainView was free this year it's $100, I completely understand that there is a cost to organizing such event and it's easy to be a critic. That said I think changing the Devops Day model from "free as in beer" to "paid for" could use some explanations but maybe I just missed them.

J.

Jonah Horowitz

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Apr 12, 2013, 7:31:01 PM4/12/13
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I don't mind paying, particularly if it's in a better location, but Santa Clara is a bitch to get to from SF.
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Patrick Debois

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Apr 13, 2013, 2:09:56 AM4/13/13
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Hi Jamie,

thank for asking us to clarify this. There are two main reasons:

In the past in the US we've been lucky to get free to cheap hosting of
the conference that allowed us to make the event for free.
As the size of the conference grows (we expect 500+) , this is becoming
harder to find and we have decided to go for a hotel option for convenience.
Outside US in fact, the devopsdays are non-free as well, because of the
same reason. (hotels aren't charities)

The second reason is to ask for a nominal fee (100 USD for 2 days of
conference and drinks, that's not too bad is it?)
is because we had 500 people registered and 500 on the waitlinglist. At
the day of the event not everybody showed up,
much to frustration of the people that could not make it. There we think
by charging that nominal fee, we discourage to go for the freebie.

hope this helps you understand our decision,
Patrick

Sascha Bates

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Apr 13, 2013, 10:31:07 AM4/13/13
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This devopsdays was designed to piggy back with Velocity which is held at the same hotel. I fly into San Jose almost every week for a Santa Clara client and so I sympathize with your woes about getting down there from the city. People who don't live in that area don't understand the transit pain (srsly, they can't make one high speed train between sf/sj?). I drive more in Santa Clara than I do in Minneapolis.

That said, with the Velocity conf, most attendees have flown in to SJC and don't have any transportation at all making anything outside of a cab ride a major hardship.

I'm actually not a fan at all of this location for a Conference, but O'Reilly seems to love it and have all their conferences there.

But that's why DevopsDays is held in Silicon Valley.

I also am totally on board with paying for DoD. I know there's a real problem with the free model and the big one is that ticket squatters who have almost no plans to come will still reserve a spot and then not free it when they (surprise!) don't show up.

Sascha
April 12, 2013 6:31 PM
I don't mind paying, particularly if it's in a better location, but Santa Clara is a bitch to get to from SF.


April 12, 2013 5:25 PM
Hey there,
While last year DevOps day in MountainView was free this year it's $100, I completely understand that there is a cost to organizing such event and it's easy to be a critic. That said I think changing the Devops Day model from "free as in beer" to "paid for" could use some explanations but maybe I just missed them.

J.

April 2, 2013 1:34 PM
Dear devops enthousiast, (and apologies for the crosspost)

we just wanted to inform you that after a succesfull Devopsdays London we are really picking up steam again:

I'm pretty pleased to announce that devopsdays events will happen at:

More to come in Atlanta , NewYork , London , Tokyo , Bangalore ...

As always we greatly appreciate your proposals and sponsorship. Please keep amazing us!
A big thanks to all the local volunteers and sponsors to make these events awesome.

If you want to stay up to date of new events, please consider registering to the Devopsdays Mailinglist
Also we're slowly putting all past event videos online. With 100+ talks you'll never run out of devops ideas.

The organizers

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Ben Rockwood

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Apr 13, 2013, 1:56:26 PM4/13/13
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Thanks for the explanation, it really helps out.  Seeing the $100 as kicking in for the expenses and ensuring those who sign up actually commit is a good reasoning.  I too was frustrated last year by how many people told me they wanted to attend but couldn't because it appeared to be sold out. 

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Ernest Mueller

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Apr 13, 2013, 12:20:36 PM4/13/13
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As a DevOpsDays Austin coordinator, we approached Patrick about
making this year's DevOpsDays Austin a non-free event ourselves based
on our experience from last year. The ticket money doesn't defray
costs all that much, we still rely on lots of sponsorships to pay for
even the base venue and food expenses. It's mainly about the fact
that we have 2x as many people sign up as we have capacity for, and
then we have 1/3 of those who said they'd come not show up on the day
of the conference. That's not helpful for anyone. People travel into
town for these conferences, they want to attend them because of the
quality of the people there, it's not a user group for whoever
happens to be around that maybe wants to show up or maybe not that
day. It's for highly engaged practitioners to learn from each other.

The fee is truly nominal for two full days of conference, and for
those who are somehow devops practictioners that can't swing that
fee, speakers and volunteers get in for free - if the money is a real
impediment, try contributing in one of those ways.

Ernest

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