3 Runs for Free Curly Fries

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Peter Welch

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Jun 19, 2024, 1:10:44 PM6/19/24
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Arby's is offering free curly fries if the Tigers score 3 runs or more today.  Only 3 runs.  LOL!  They should have made it 1 run.  Their supply of curly fries should be safe. 

Braves lead 1-0 in the bottom of the 3rd.  Skubal has thrown 43 pitches already.  The Braves are making him work.
The Tigers have had the leadoff man on twice (Perez has 2 leadoff singles) and, of course, have done nothing.

Peter

Roger King

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Jun 19, 2024, 1:18:18 PM6/19/24
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I see Sean Murphy just homered with a man on to make it 3-0 after 3 innings.  Depressing that we already know this game is over given the Tigers anemic offense.



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Peter Welch

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Jun 19, 2024, 1:24:34 PM6/19/24
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If the Tigers are to win then it's guaranteed curly fries!!

Skubal hasn't been locating his pitches well today and has been grinding.  The Braves' hitters are much smarter (and just better) than the Tigers and have been able to take advantage.


Peter
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Peter Welch

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Jun 19, 2024, 1:31:03 PM6/19/24
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Baddoo also dropped a diving catch attempt earlier in the 3rd to allow a double for Austin Riley.  Not an easy play, but if Baddoo hangs on then Skubal gets out of the inning.  Baddoo's jump didn't look that good on the ball to begin with.  At this point we should just recall Meadows to play CF everyday.  Meadows can't hit (but neither can Baddoo and his defense sucks), but Meadows' defense at least will save some runs, and it will allow Greene to play LF regularly, where he belongs.

Peter

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Jeffrey Withey

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Jun 19, 2024, 2:08:39 PM6/19/24
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In Baddoo’s defense it is quite windy there today so it probably wasn’t a straightforward play. 

Jeff
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Roger King

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Jun 19, 2024, 2:29:17 PM6/19/24
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7-0 now in the 7th.  

With their 4th loss in a row, this road trip sort of feels like the turning point in the season. I had a post the other day where I said the Tigers could try to battle back to .500 and then take it from there but that was before this Atlanta series started and they were 3 games under. Such a big psychological difference getting swept and now being 6 games under. 

They head home to play the White Sox now so it’s a chance to claw back a few of those games, but after that, the Phillies are in town and then they head out on a 10 game road trip. It’s hard to imagine there will be a big winning streak in there.
  
After this upcoming 6 game home-stand, it will be the halfway point of the season and Harris will I think have his answer about the kind of moves he should make in July/the trading deadline.  

Cal Lord

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Jun 19, 2024, 2:59:21 PM6/19/24
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Tigers need hitters. It is a shame to waste so many good pitching performances like last night. No wonder guys like Skubal and Olsen throw a few duds. They feel like that have to be perfect. If O were the Tigers I’d do whatever I could to acquire a few offensive players now even if we can’t win this year. Start building the team now while teams are in a trading mode. 

Cal
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David Panian

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Jun 19, 2024, 3:26:46 PM6/19/24
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The Arby’s promotion is every game. I think it’s been that was for the past two or three years. I’m pretty sure it was three home runs in a game back in the 2010s when they were a contender most years and had a bunch of guys who could hit 20-plus homers.

David


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Peter Welch

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Jun 19, 2024, 3:42:36 PM6/19/24
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Yeah, I just think it’s funny (or sad) that it’s just for scoring 3 runs, which isn’t much but is a big achievement for this team.

Peter

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Peter Welch

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Jun 19, 2024, 3:50:44 PM6/19/24
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It was a good diving catch attempt. Just our luck Akil couldn’t hang on to it.
(Skubal’s didn’t have it today anyway so ultimately it didn’t matter whether Baddoo made the catch or not).

I still think we’d be better off with Meadows or Vierling in CF so that Greene can play his best defensive position in LF.  

Sadly I don’t think Baddoo is a major league player.  He’s a good athlete but just doesn’t have enough hitting or defensive skills for the highest level. He’s AAAA.  

Meadows isn’t a major league hitter either but he’s elite level defensively so might as well put him in CF until a better CF option comes along.

Peter 


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Peter Welch

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Jun 19, 2024, 3:59:58 PM6/19/24
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Tigers should be sellers.  This team as constructed is not getting a WC spot.  The Carpenter injury, Tork’s lack of development and Keith being sub-.600 OPS has killed the offense.
Way too many offensive sinkholes.  Tork is very unlikely to be a factor at all this season.  His swing timing is broken.

Trade Flaherty, Kelly, Canha and Urshela as soon as possible and listen to offers for Skubal.
Call up the other younger guys in AAA (Jung, Dingler, Meadows, Leonard) for the rest of the season and get a top 5 pick next year.

Peter 



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 Tigers need hitters. It is a shame to waste so many good pitching performances like last night. No wonder guys like Skubal and Olsen throw a few duds. They feel like that have to be perfect. If O were the Tigers I’d do whatever I could to acquire a few offensive players now even if we can’t win this year. Start building the team now while teams are in a trading mode. 

Cal Lord

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Jun 19, 2024, 4:05:46 PM6/19/24
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Totally disagree with Peter. You keep selling, you dig a bigger hole. We need to be buyers, not to win this year, but to upgrade for next year. We have lots of chips including Tork, Meadows, Manning, Brieske... Keep Flaherty, Ushella and the two catchers. Package Cahna with a couple of these prospects that probably won't pan out. Let's build the foundation for next year.... NOW!
Cal

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Peter Welch

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Jun 19, 2024, 6:00:08 PM6/19/24
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To keep Flaherty they will need to either extend him during this season (they'll probably need to offer him something like 6+ years at $25+ million per season) or try to re-sign him on the open market after the season.  Flaherty is 28 (29 in October).  The last time the Tigers signed a 29-year-old starter to a big money multi-year contract it was Jordan Zimmermann.  Look how that turned out.

Flaherty is having a good season and I'm sure he appreciates the help he's received from Fetter and the Tigers' pitching braintrust to recover his form, but he knows he can probably get double his current salary on the open market.  

Would it be wise of the Tigers, given the state of their current team and organization, to give Flaherty a multi-year big money contract?
Or would they be better off trying to get a decent prospect (preferably a shortstop, catcher or 1B) for Flaherty?  Of course, the Tigers thought they could get a decent prospect for E-Rod last year and we saw how that turned out. They got nada.

Teams are more reluctant to part with top prospects for rentals these days and Flaherty would likely be a rental for whoever acquires him.

In retrospect the Tigers would have been better off giving Flaherty the 2-year contract instead of Maeda.

Peter
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Paul Meloche

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Jun 19, 2024, 7:02:43 PM6/19/24
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Cal, if memory serves you were totally against the Flaherty signing when it happened. What’s changed?

Paul M.

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Peter Welch

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Jun 19, 2024, 8:29:48 PM6/19/24
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O's starter Kyle Bradish just had Tommy John surgery and is out for the season.

Scott Harris should immediately be on the phone with the Orioles seeing what he can get for Flaherty and Skubal.
The O's system is loaded with near-ready or already-ready top prospects.

Peter
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Mark Pattison

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Jun 19, 2024, 8:32:29 PM6/19/24
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Yeah, except that Baltimore picked up Flaherty from the Cardinals last year for the stretch drive. He flamed out, was demoted to the bullpen, and didn't even make the postseason roster. I think they'll look elsewhere.

Mark Pattison

Peter Welch

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Jun 19, 2024, 8:38:25 PM6/19/24
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To be fair, this year's Flaherty is not the last couple of years version of Flaherty.  But, yeah, the O's still might not be interested in trying him again since he didn't do anything for them last year after they traded for him.  

I don't think we're getting a premium prospect from anyone for Flaherty because he'll be a rental.  But I'd still take a "B" prospect from a good system like the O's or Dodgers if they're interested in a deal.  However, they might just tell Harris to get lost.

Skubal is definitely going to attract more interest and a better haul of prospects.

Peter
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Mark Pattison

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Jun 19, 2024, 8:46:03 PM6/19/24
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In keeping with the original theme of this thread, maybe we can trade Maeda to Arby's for $21 million in curly fries. Spuds for a dud.

Mark Pattison


Cal Lord

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Jun 19, 2024, 9:11:31 PM6/19/24
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Paul, I was hoping they’d go after someone better. It turns out that he turned out to be the someone better. 🤣
Cal
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Cal, if memory serves you were totally against the Flaherty signing when it happened. What’s changed?
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