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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 4:17:14 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Today's lineup vs. 23-year-old rookie lefty Connelly Early who has a 1.88 ERA in 3 major league starts.   Early is the Red Sox #6 prospect.
He was recently called up to replace the injured Dustin May.  Early doesn't have an overpowering fastball.  He's regarded more as a future #4/#5 starter. 
So I predict he'll strike out at least 10 Tigers.


  1. Jahmai Jones (R) DH
  2. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
  3. Wenceel Pérez (S) RF
  4. Spencer Torkelson (R) 1B
  5. Riley Greene (L) LF
  6. Dillon Dingler (R) C
  7. Andy Ibáñez (R) 3B
  8. Javier Báez (R) SS
  9. Parker Meadows (L) CF

Why is Perez still batting 3rd?

Keider Montero starting for the Tigers.  Montero could get destroyed in Fenway.


Peter

Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 4:19:11 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Sure enough, Jones leads off with a single and is left stranded as Torres and Perez both struck out swinging on curveballs, and Tork popped out.

Peter

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Roger King

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Sep 27, 2025, 4:20:04 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Looking forward to that lead off home run over the Green Monster from Jones and then him being replaced in the fourth inning.



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Roger King

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Sep 27, 2025, 4:20:51 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Ha! I just typed that Jones would get a lead off hit, not having checked the game yet. Was hoping for the homer :-)



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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 4:21:02 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Early is throwing his fastball 95-96 mph so maybe he's got more of a fastball than the scouting reports say.

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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 4:22:17 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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A solo homer is almost the only way the Tigers can score.  Forget them putting together a string of hits.

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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 4:25:32 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Jones will still get pulled when the Sox bring in a righty.  Count on it.

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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 4:31:58 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Likes like another strike out fest.  

Early has already struck out 3 of the Tigers' first 5 hitters.  Greene struck out again in the 2nd.  He now has 201 on the season.  He's shattering the Tigers' single-season K record.  Riley thinks the strike outs "don't matter" and it "is what it is" that he strikes out so much.

Montero gave up a single to Abreu in the 1st but struck out the other 3 hitters.


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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 4:35:27 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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STOP STRIKING OUT!  Ibanez strikes out as well in the 2nd.  That's 4 Ks for Early in 2 innings.

What are the Tigers' hitting coaches teaching?  The "control the zone" philosophy seems to have completely gone out the window.  They all seem to be following Javy Baez's philosophy.

Peter

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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 4:40:01 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Why no Malloy against a lefty who was in AAA recently?  Malloy was beating up on pitchers in AAA.

Honestly, I would bench Greene against lefties.

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Jeffrey Withey

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Sep 27, 2025, 5:01:05 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Perez has no business starting now. You could argue Greene doesn’t either against a lefty. Malloy is hot. Garbage lineup. 

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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 5:02:11 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Javy Baez saves Montero's butt in the 2nd with a great diving catch on a sinking blooper to LF to end the inning with 2 runners on.

Montero also got lucky in the 3rd as Torres caught a 112-mph scorcher off the bat of Yoshida to end the inning.

Sox lead 1-0 after 3.  

Tigers have struck out 5 times vs. Early through 3.  Meadows struck out in the 3rd.  So Early is half way there to 10.

It sucks that the Tigers have to start Meadows against a lefty but honestly they need Baez at SS and Meadows in CF for defense.  The rest of the lineup needs to produce to cover for them.

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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 5:04:13 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Hinch doesn't like Jones's defense in the outfield so he starts him at DH and benches Malloy.  I'd rather sacrifice some defense for offense at this point.
Put Jones in LF for Greene against a lefty and start Malloy at DH.  Not starting the righty Malloy against a lefty rookie in Fenway Park is idiotic.

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Roger King

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Sep 27, 2025, 5:08:32 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Meadows laid down a great bunt hit against a LH last night. He should try that more often.


Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 5:11:28 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Another strikeout for Early in the 4th.  Torres took a totally hittable fastball over the heart of the plate for strike 3.  Sigh.
Perez also got a meatball over the plate and hit a mediocre flyball to CF.

I actually think you could combine Toledo and Erie's lineups and they'd do better than the Tigers.  

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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 5:16:54 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Sox lead 1-0 after 4. 
It's a strikeout fest for both teams.  Montero has 6 Ks and Early has 7 Ks through 4.1 innings.  The Sox have to be frustrated because they've had some chances to beat up on Montero but he's pitched out of jams thanks to some good defense by the Tigers.

By the way, that Rafaela guy on the Sox is becoming very annoying in a Steven Kwan way.  He's hitting .375 vs. the Tigers this year.

Peter

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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 5:21:56 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Greene with 2 Ks already today.  He has no business starting against lefties anymore.
Malloy at least can hit lefties but he's buried on the bench.

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Roger King

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Sep 27, 2025, 5:24:00 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Jones getting a good chance here coming up with the bases loaded in the 5th. Though there are two outs.




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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 5:26:39 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Jones came through with a 2-run single!  Tigers lead 2-1 in the 5th.  Torres is up.

Jones is our most reliable hitter.  And Hinch will still take him out if the Sox bring in a righty later.

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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 5:29:36 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Torres got a hanging curve over the plate but flied out meekly to CF to end the inning.  At least we actually got 2 runs for a change.

I don't know how much longer we can go with Montero.  He's allowed quite a bit of base traffic so far.

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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 5:33:48 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Oh boy, Montero being lifted for Hurter after striking out the leadoff man in the bottom of the 5th.  Hang on to your hats...it's bullpen time for 4+ innings.

Nice job from Montero.  His defense helped him out a lot, but he had 7 Ks and 0 walks in 4.1 IP.  At least he didn't walk himself into trouble.

Peter
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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 5:44:11 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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The Sox brought in rookie lefty Payton Tolle to start the 6th.  Perez singled to lead off the inning.  Tork strikes out and Greene grounds into a DP.  Tork had a meatball 91-mph fastball on the first pitch and he swung and missed at it.  Tork struck out on a slider outside the plate.  Awful hitting.

Hurter is still in to start the bottom of the 6th.  Is Hinch pressing his luck?

Peter
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Roger King

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Sep 27, 2025, 5:53:56 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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The other Montero finishes off the Sox in the 6th.  Nice job. 

Now the Tigers need some insurance runs. Mr. stating the obvious here.



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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 5:56:00 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Hurter really botched a surefire double play by not covering 1st base.  He just stood there like a house by the side of the road and didn't even budge towards 1st base.  Weird.  Glad that didn't come back to haunt us.

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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 6:04:14 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Heck, I would start Malloy at 1B over Tork right now.

Peter
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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 6:13:07 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Good day for the Monteros today.  Rafael allowed a 1-out single in the 7th but got a force out and then Holton came in to strike out Hamilton.

Tigers lead 2-1 in the top of the 8th.  Jones, Torres and Perez due up.  Can we please get some BISN?

Finnegan then Vest, or Vest then Finnegan?

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Paul Meloche

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Sep 27, 2025, 6:16:14 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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The way things have gone for us lately Hinch is pressing his luck any time the bullpen is used. 

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Peter Welch

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Hinch pushing the right buttons with the bullpen today so far.  Holton faces 3 lefties in the 8th and gets them all out.  Holton struck out the last hitter in the 7th as well.  Perez with an excellent catch to save Holton for the 2nd out.

Tork, Greene and Dingler due up in the top of the 9th.  Not expecting much.

Finnegan or Vest in the 9th?

Peter
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Roger King

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Sep 27, 2025, 6:31:40 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Finnegan has pitched two games in a row, including blowing the lead last night. It’s definitely going to be Vest in the traditional 9th inning closing role. 

Tigers have two runners on now in the 9th but two outs.  


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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 6:33:44 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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So it will be Vest time....time to bite your nails.

Javy strikes out on 3 straight pitches out of the zone to leave 2 runners stranded in the top of the 9th.  Pathetic but predictable.

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Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 6:41:26 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Vest with a 1-2-3 no-drama inning for the save.  
Tigers are in the playoffs and Skubal should get a rest tomorrow so he can pitch in game 1 of the playoffs.
I don't care about trying to win the division if Cleveland loses tonight, just rest Skubal.

Great job by the pitchers and defense today.  The offense still gets an "F" except for Jones.

Peter

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Mike Coveyou

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Sep 27, 2025, 7:02:09 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Except today I thought one of the most disciplined Tiger hitters was Baez.  Not that I expect to last, but his unbelievable catch probably saved this game.

Mike Coveyou

Peter Welch

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Sep 27, 2025, 7:08:40 PM (3 days ago) Sep 27
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Javy's great catch saved the season and Perez's sliding catch in RF also prevented things from getting very scary.

His last 2 at-bats became increasingly bad, but he did have a good at-bat in the 5th.  He actually laid off a couple of way outside pitches and then drove a low and in pitch for a single to keep the inning going (Meadows then walked and Jones hit the 2-run 2-out single).

His last at-bat in the 9th was vintage undisciplined Baez.  He went up there only one thought of hacking at every pitch and struck out on 3 pitches out of the zone.  He got blown away by a 96-mph fastball up in the zone. 

Peter

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Peter Welch

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Today's lineup vs. righty Gavin Williams, who has a 1.06 ERA vs. the Tigers in 3 starts this year.  The Tigers are hitting .139 against him with 29 Ks in 17 innings.  Woof!

  1. Parker Meadows CF
  2. Gleyber Torres 2B
  3. Kerry Carpenter DH
  4. Spencer Torkelson 1B
  5. Riley Greene LF
  6. Wenceel Pérez RF

Williams has a high walk rate.  A lot of his breaking pitches end up out of the zone, but he gets hitters chase them.  The Tigers' hitters need to be more disciplined against him and stop chasing, but I'm not optimistic.
The Tigers have to try to get to Williams early before the parade of tough relievers comes in.

The Cleveland lineup is not scary at all, but as we know, Kwan and Ramirez can be a 2-man wrecking crew against us and the Guardians always seem to have some scrubby hitter come up with a key hit against us.
Skubal should be focused (no more goofy fielding plays), but can we give him some support for a change?

Go Tigers!

Peter




Roger King

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Small thing but I'm glad Baez is starting instead of Sweeney at SS.  Normally, Hinch would do his usual LH against the righty thing but Sweeney has really shown nothing at the plate.  

Javy can still get the occasional key hit like he did at Fenway on the weekend...and I'd rather have him there defensively as well.


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Peter Welch

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Absolutely, you've got to start Baez given the options.  Sweeney is unplayable.
Baez has had his usual share of horrible at-bats lately and is having an awful 2nd half (Hinch has alluded to Baez playing through injuries) , but to his credit he made a season-saving catch the other day and hit a 3-run homer vs. Boston on Sunday to give us the lead at the time before Paddack blew it and Hinch gave up.

Peter
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Peter Welch

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Hey, we got a 1st inning run, thanks to shoddy defense by the Guardians and a clutch 2-out RBI single by Tork.
Of course, Greene struck out to end the inning.

Tigers lead 1-0 after 1.  Skubal with 2 Ks in the 1st, including J-Ram on a nasty 3-2 change-up.  Skubal throwing 100-mph already.

Peter

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Peter Welch

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Riley addicted to swinging at high heat:


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Roger King

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On the 3rd strike, the Cleveland catcher was almost literally standing up with his glove in that high spot.  Riley should take a look every once in a while.

1-0 Tigers in the 3rd.


Peter Welch

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Baez singled and Meadows walked (good at-bat) to lead off the 3rd.  Torres worked the count to 3-1 but swung and missed at ball 4 on a high sweeper (he probably thought he could hit a homer on it).  On the 3-2 pitch (a 99-mph fastball) Torres grounded into a tailor-made 6-4-3 double play.  Baez took 3rd.  Carpenter worked the count to 3-2 but struck out swinging to leave Baez stranded.  We had Williams on the ropes, but let him off the hook.  Sigh.

Tigers lead 1-0 in the bottom of the 3rd.

Peter


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Still 1-0 but Skubal has put the first 2 runners on in the 4th but in typical annoying Cleveland fashion.  A little infield roller between Skubal & Torres and a walk to Ramirez.

Feels like they'll take the lead here.


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