Tonight's Lineup

[Peter Welch]

Tonight's lineup vs. rookie righty Roki Sasaki.  Sasaki only lasted 3 innings in his first outing vs. the Cubs in Japan.   He allowed only 1 run but walked 5 batters and threw a lot of pitches so they took him out early.

1. Zach McKinstry (L) 3B
2. Riley Greene (L) LF
3. Spencer Torkelson (R) 1B
4. Kerry Carpenter (L) DH
5. Colt Keith (L) 2B
6. Manuel Margot (R) RF
7. Trey Sweeney (L) SS
8. Jake Rogers (R) C
9. Ryan Kreidler (R) CF

Margot can't hit righties normally, but he's off to a hot start so keep playing him.

By the way, Justyn-Henry Malloy hit a 443-ft. bomb to deep centerfield for Toledo last night in their opener (Jace Jung also homered).  Malloy also singled and walked. Malloy really should be with the Tigers right now.  We need power in the lineup.  (Mud Hens lost 8-5 to Columbus in Toledo).

Peter

[Paul Meloche]

Who does Malloy replace if he’s on the big club?

Paul M.

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[Peter Welch]

Kreidler (yes, I know that's not going to happen because they want Kreidler to play CF) and then shift Greene to CF (yes, I also know they only want to use Greene sparingly in CF).

Peter

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[Peter Welch]

Sasaki was terrible but the Tigers couldn't put the hammer down and could only muster 2 runs against him despite a bunch of base traffic.  A swinging bunt by Margot with the bases loaded and a bases-loaded walk to Sweeney were the only way they could score.  Our lineup sucks.

Dodgers now lead 5-2 in the 7th.  They've hit 2 more homers and counting.  You just can't make a single mistake against this team.

Rogers just tripled (!) to start the 7th.  Another late-inning comeback brewing by the Tigers?

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[Peter Welch]

1. Tonight's lineup vs. tough righty Logan Gilbert.
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3. Zach McKinstry (L) 3B
4. Riley Greene (L) DH
5. Spencer Torkelson (R) 1B
6. Kerry Carpenter (L) LF

1. Colt Keith (L) 2B
2. Manuel Margot (R) RF
3. Trey Sweeney (L) SS
4. Jake Rogers (R) C
5. Ryan Kreidler (R) CF

Is this an April Fool's lineup from Hinch?

Malloy and Baez are on the bench after having great games.  McKinstry, who was terrible on Monday when everybody else was teeing off against the Mariners, bats leadoff against one of the best starters in baseball.  Kreidler vs. Gilbert is a total mismatch.  Margot can't hit righties but starts against the tough righty.  Rogers probably won't do much, but he's in there because he's the #1 catcher for defensive reasons, not offense. I'm sure Hinch has his reasons, but really?

Mize deserves a better lineup behind him.  Mize will need to have his best stuff tonight to keep it close.  Maybe Malloy and Baez can do some damage as pinch hitters later in the game?

Peter

[Paul Meloche]

Rogers is Skubal’s personal catcher too so presumably he’ll also be starting tomorrow in a day game after a night game. 

Paul M.

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[Peter Welch]

At least the good part of the order has produced so far.  Greene, Carpenter and Keith combined to produce 2 runs in the top of the 1^st vs. Gilbert.  Tork struck out (I thought he had a couple of hittable pitches he missed).

Tigers lead 2-0 in the top of the 3rd.

Hey look, McKinstry just led off the 3^rd with a single...

Peter

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[Peter Welch]

I know Seattle has a weak offense, but Casey Mize has looked good tonight, with 5 shutout innings, allowing only 1 hit (the first batter he faced) with 6 Ks and 2 walks.

He might be tiring in the 6th, though.  Got to be careful here.

Tigers lead 3-0 in the bottom of the 6th.  Kind of annoyed they pinch hit Ibanez for Carpenter against a lefty reliever.  Hate taking Carpenter out of the game when the Mariners are still in it.

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[Roger King]

A solid 4-1 win with Riley Greene adding an insurance run with his 2nd HR of the year. 

Great to see Mize carry the solid spring performance into the first start of the regular season. He & Tork seem determined so far to justify why they were #1 picks. 

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[Peter Welch]

Combined 1-hitter tonight.  Tigers now tied for 1^st in the Central.  🙂

Fortunately the Tigers' big boppers carried the offense.  We got away with the crappy bottom half of the lineup.  Maybe Hinch just wanted a better defensive lineup tonight.

With Skubal starting on Wednesday afternoon, we've got a good chance of a .500 opening West Coast road trip, which would be a success after the annoying Dodgers' series (by the way, the Dodgers have continued to roll on as they've won the first 2 games against the Braves this week.  They are a juggernaut that can't be stopped right now, and, to think, the Tigers were a couple of breaks away from winning the series against them).

We're hosting the White Sox for 3 starting on Friday in the home opening series at Comerica and then the Yankees come to Detroit for 3.
(I notice Nick Maton is leading off for the White Sox...LOL!).

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[Peter Welch]

Tonight's lineup vs. righty David Festa, who is making his 2025 debut.  Last year the Tigers beat up on Festa.

1. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
2. Kerry Carpenter (L) LF
3. Riley Greene (L) CF
4. Spencer Torkelson (R) 1B
5. Colt Keith (L) DH
6. Zach McKinstry (L) RF
7. Dillon Dingler (R) C
8. Trey Sweeney (L) SS
9. Javier Báez (R) 3B

Pretty good lineup.  Can't complain about McKinstry since he's red hot.  Play the hot hand!

Good to see Torres back.  Let's hope he stays healthy.  He seemed to come back pretty quickly from an oblique injury.

Twinkies have struggled early so far this season.  I think Rocco Baldelli might be in trouble.  I thought they'd fire him after their collapse at the end of last season.

Carlos Correa batting 3^rd for the Twins.  He's been terrible so far.  Javy Baez is better.  🙂

Willi Castro is batting 2nd.

Peter

[Peter Welch]

Is Dingler for real? He's 3-4 for tonight and now has a 1.119 OPS.  Looking deeper at his stats, he has freakishly high .467 batting average on balls in play.  I would say that's unsustainable.  LOL!

That being said, if he ends up in the .700-.725 OPS range with 15-20 homers that will be fine for a catcher.

Never-say-die Tigers are up 7-5 in the 8^th (they were down 4-1 at one point).  Probably Holton and Kahnle to try finishing it out.

Peter

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[Paul Meloche]

 Vest stayed in to pitch the 8th so probably Kahnle to close it with two of the three due up in the 9th for MIN righty hitters. 

Keith with a couple of hits tonight, though one was a swinging bunt that he couldn’t have rolled out there better. 

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[Peter Welch]

Kahnle did his best Todd Jones impersonation in the 9th as he allowed a run on 3 hits but he got the save, leaving 2 men on base.  Whew!

Tigers hang on to win 7-6.  

The bottom 4 guys in the order combined for 6 hits and 5 RBIs, covering for quiet nights from Carpenter, Greene and Tork.  Tork did get on base twice with a walk and HBP.

Welcome back Gleyber Torres, who was on base 3 times with 2 hits and a walk from the leadoff spot.

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[Paul Meloche]

In the AB when he walked Tork hit two looong foul balls that were each just outside the foul pole. Like inches, at least from the replays I saw. 

Still early, but the ABs I’ve seen from him this year have been quality even when he makes an out. 

Paul M.

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[Tapu Shaikh]

On 4/12/25 05:58, Paul Meloche wrote:
> In the AB when he walked Tork hit two looong foul balls that were each
> just outside the foul pole. Like inches, at least from the replays I saw.

The long fouls are at MLB.com:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/778363/video/spencer-torkelson-s-two-massive-foul-balls

Hopefully someone uploads the whole 11-pitch at bat.

-Tapu

[Roger King]

First time I can remember that a couple of foul balls make a highlight reel.

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[Peter Welch]

That was a great at-bat by Tork. He eventually walked.  Probably wore out the relief pitcher.

Peter

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[Peter Welch]

Tonight's lineup at Milwaukee vs. crafty ex-Tiger lefty Tyler Alexander, who has a 2.84 ERA in 4 appearances (2 starts), including 5.2 no-hit innings in a start vs. the Reds.  Alexander has always been like that.  He'll be brilliant once in a while but then way too hittable other times.  I guess that's the risk of not having much of a fastball and relying on pinpoint location.  Good for Tyler for carving out a decent career for himself as a spot starter/long reliever.  He was originally a 2nd-round pick by the Tigers in 2015.

Skubal on the mound for the Tigers.  Could be a lefty pitching duel of completely contrasting styles.

1. Justyn-Henry Malloy (R) DH
2. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
3. Andy Ibáñez (R) 3B
4. Spencer Torkelson (R) 1B
5. Dillon Dingler (R) C
6. Kerry Carpenter (L) LF
7. Javier Báez (R) SS
8. Ryan Kreidler (R) CF
9. Zach McKinstry (L) RF

Carp gets the start against the lefty.  

Riley Greene gets a needed break.  Let's hope Greene can clear his head and stop doing his Javy Baez impersonation.  He can't seem to lay off pitches off the plate.  Greene has a 40% K rate this year and has struck out 13 times in his last 23 AB.  Ouch.  I still think he needs to stop trying to golf every swing but, to be fair, it's mostly worked for him in his career so far.

Peter

[Roger King]

I read that Skubal texted Alexander on the weekend and said this is going to be fun and he agreed. They had a friendly back-and-forth apparently.

Doesn’t seem like Alexander having any of that fun though. 8-0 Tigers in the 4th :-)

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[Peter Welch]

Tigers lead 9-0. Skubal has gone 7 innings and thrown 91 pitches.

2 ex-Tigers from the Al Avila era have pitched for the Brewers tonight: Alexander and Elvin Rodriguez.   The Tigers got the easy-to-hit version of Alexander and beat him up for 8 runs.

The last thing I remember about Elvin Rodriguez (E-Rod #2?) with the Tigers was a Jomboy YouTube video about how Elvin was obviously tipping his pitches in a game vs. the Yankees.  It was so obvious that even the Yankees commented on it after the game.  Elvin was originally acquired by the Tigers from the Angels' system in the Justin Upton firesale trade.

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[Paul Meloche]

Oh wow - I had forgotten all about E-Rod #2. 

In other ex-Tiger pitching news, Michael Fulmer pitched tonight in his first game since 2023. He’s with the Red Sox now. He gave up three runs in 2.2 in a game that was a blowout before he came in. 

I don’t know if Fulmer has had any significant stretch of health since he left the Tigers. I believe he’s coming of TJ surgery at the moment. 

Paul M.

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[Peter Welch]

That was the 2^nd TJS for Fulmer.  He's 32. 

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[Peter Welch]

Tonight's lineup vs. righty Quinn Priester (1.80 ERA in 1 start):

1. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
2. Kerry Carpenter (L) LF
3. Riley Greene (L) CF
4. Spencer Torkelson (R) 1B
5. Colt Keith (L) DH

1. Dillon Dingler (R) C
2. Zach McKinstry (L) RF
3. Javier Báez (R) 3B
4. Trey Sweeney (L) SS

Let's see if Greene and Keith sitting for one game will wake them up.  Greene and Keith are hitting way better against righties than lefties this season.  Greene struggles against lefties maybe more than Carpenter.

Flaherty starting for the Tigers.  So glad he came back.  Let's hope his back stays healthy.

Peter

[Michael W]

I was surprised today that when they moved Baez to the outfield, they played him in center and Greene in left.  That says a lot about their discomfort with Greene in center.

Michael 

[Peter Welch]

Well, tonight's game was a dud.  We got one-hit (a Torres double in the 6th to break up the no-hitter) and were blanked 5-0.  Actually, after we beat up Tyler Alexander yesterday the offense has kind of gone to sleep.  The barely could do much against Elvin Rodriguez in 5 innings, which was lame considering Elvin had some of the worst stats of any pitcher in baseball coming into the game.

Greene remained in his slump tonight.  He was 0-4 with 3 Ks.  He struck out on 3 straight pitches looking in one of his at-bats.  Greene is a mess right now.  He's had these type of slumps before so we just have to ride it out. 
Colt Keith had his usual walk but he continues to be punchless as a hitter (his OPS is down to .569).

Tork was 0-4 with 2 Ks.   Tork's strikeout rate this year (30%) is actually the highest in his career.  Something to keep an eye on.

The Brew Crew ran a lot on Dillon Dingler as they were 4-4 on stolen base attempts.  A couple of Dingler's throws weren't very accurate.  Something to keep an eye on.

Dingler's ridiculously high BABIP also seems to be regressing, which isn't surprising.  He couldn't keep sustaining a .470 BABIP.  Dingler also has yet to walk this season (11 Ks and 0 walks).

Hinch pinch hit Ibanez for Carpenter against a lefty reliever in the 6th tonight. The Tigers were down 3-0 at the time.  

Flaherty's command was a bit off tonight.  He wasn't awful, but threw 98 pitches in 4.2 IP.  He was missing his spots.

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[Peter Welch]

Greene is causing discomfort in the lineup period.  1 for his last 30 with 17 Ks...oof!

Peter

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[Roger King]

Greene is like Hinch imagines Carpenter to be against LH's so far this year.

vs LH

22 AB's

Hitting .182 with a .490 OPS

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[Peter Welch]

Yes, if you're going to platoon a lefty hitter, it might be Greene right now.  Keith probably needs to be platooned as well. 

Carpenter should be a full-time player for now.  Enough with the pinch hitting for Carpenter in the 6^th inning when the other team brings in a lefty reliever.

They should at least get Greene out of the #3/#4 spot for a while and move him down in the order until he starts hitting again.  He's almost an automatic strikeout when we have a runner in scoring position.

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Tonight's lineup vs. lefty Cole Ragans (2.28 ERA in 4 starts):

1. Justyn-Henry Malloy (R) DH
2. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B

1. Riley Greene (L) CF

1. Andy Ibáñez (R) 3B
2. Spencer Torkelson (R) 1B

1. Kerry Carpenter (L) LF
2. Javier Báez (R) SS

1. Tomás Nido (R) C
2. Zach McKinstry (L) RF

Carp getting the start against the lefty. ​3 lefties in the lineup vs. the tough lefty Ragans.  Ragans is one of the best lefties in baseball.

Greene struggles against lefties and McKinstry really shouldn't be playing against a lefty like Ragans, but we really don't have decent righty platoon options for those guys.  I guess they want to give Dingler a break from catching even though he'd seem like a logical choice to start against the lefty.

At least Kreidler is sitting.  He's a righty but he can't hit anyone.

Jackson Jobe starting for the Tigers.  He'll need to minimize the runs because this will probably be a low scoring game until we can get to the Royals' bullpen.

Peter

[Peter Welch]

As usual, you can’t predict anything in baseball as scrub catcher Thomas Nido is 2-2 tonight with an RBI against the tough lefty Ragans. Lefty killer Ibanez also with a solo shot.

Tigers up 2-1 in the bottom of the 5th.

Jobe is keeping them in check so far through 5.

Peter

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[Roger King]

Now 7-1 Tigers in the 8th.  Tork & Greene have 3 hits, 2 walks, 3 runs scored and 3 RBI’s between them. 

Nido now has 3 hits :-)

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[Peter Welch]

We're still in that "a different hero every game" mode that we had in the 2^nd half last year.  This time it was Thomas Nido of all people.

I remember the 1984 Tigers were like that.  The '84 Tigers had some star players, but they also had some scrubby and mediocre bench guys who came through with big games.

Nido actually has a good defensive reputation as a catcher, which is why he's managed to have a career in the big leagues despite being unable to hit.

Any offense we get from him is gravy.

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[Peter Welch]

Tonight's lineup vs. righty Randy Vasquez (1.74 ERA):

1. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
2. Zach McKinstry (L) RF
3. Riley Greene (L) LF

1. Spencer Torkelson (R) 1B
2. Colt Keith (L) DH

1. Jace Jung (L) 3B
2. Javier Báez (R) CF
3. Trey Sweeney (L) SS
4. Tomás Nido (R) C

The secret weapon Nido batting 9th.  LOL!

So Carpenter is out with a sore hamstring but it sounds like he won't need a trip to the IL.

With Jung replacing Kreidler I expect we'll see a lot more of Baez in CF.  Given that Baez making the throws from 3B and SS is always an adventure, it might be good that he's in CF.

Baez still isn't much of a hitter, but he'll hit better than Kreidler (we hope).

Jung couldn't hit with the Tigers in spring training, which is why he didn't make the team, but he got off to a hot start with Toledo and was above 1.000 OPS for a while, but he's been slumping lately.

He seems to have Colt Keith's issue in that he can work the count and draw some walks, but often doesn't drive the ball very hard when he makes contact.

Greene and Torres really need to step it up with no Carpenter in there.  Tork can't do it all by himself.

Peter

[Peter Welch]

Tonight's lineup vs. righty Nick Pivetta (1.57 ERA in 4 starts):

1. Kerry Carpenter (L) DH
2. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B

1. Riley Greene (L) LF
2. Spencer Torkelson (R) 1B

1. Justyn-Henry Malloy (R) RF
2. Jace Jung (L) 3B

1. Dillon Dingler (R) C
2. Trey Sweeney (L) SS

1. Javier Báez (R) CF

So Carpenter is back and batting leadoff.  That's unusual.

Maybe Carp has hit well vs. Pivetta in the past and Hinch wants to get him a lot of looks.

Malloy in RF....yikes!

I think McKinstry will be coming in for defense pretty quickly.

Somehow I don't think Al Avila thought Javy Baez would eventually be the Tigers' starting CF when he signed Baez 3 years ago.

Will Dillon Dingler draw a walk?

Peter

[Peter Welch]

Tigers lose 2-0.  They only manage 3 singles.  Nick Pivetta was too good tonight.  He's having a great season so far.   He's always been a talented pitcher but has been a bit erratic in his career.  Before the Tigers signed Alex Cobb and showed interest in bringing back Flaherty, I thought the Tigers should have made an offer to Pivetta this past offseason.  His contract demands might have been a bit high for the Tigers, though.

Flaherty pitched very well tonight, allowing only a 2-run homer to veteran catcher Elias Diaz, which was a bit annoying since Diaz isn't much of a hitter (he was a decent hitter for a catcher a few years ago, but not now).  Flaherty kept the Padres' big boppers mostly in check.  He struck out 9 and didn't walk a batter in 6 IP.

Bailey Horn and Chase Lee made their Tigers' debuts (Lee made his big league debut) tonight and did their jobs.  Lee was a bit wild but got Machado to hit into a double play lineout right back to him at the mound in the 8th, and Riley Greene bailed out Lee with a nice diving catch to end the 9^th with 2 men on base.

Horn and Lee not being bad saved the bullpen regulars for tomorrow's rubber match.

Riley Greene continues to be mired in his slump.  We'll just have to ride it out but it is frustrating.  

Tork with an 0-4, although he didn't strike out.  He hit the ball pretty well a couple of times with nothing to show for it.

Cleveland beat the Yankees again so the Guardians take over 1^st in the AL Central.

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[Michael W]

> Tigers lose 2-0.  

But the real headline was that Malloy started in right field, and somehow the world didn't end!  Unbelievable!  I thought if you played such a "poor" defender in such a crucial spot on the field, we'd surely give up at least 4 unearned runs.  

He did get a hit though, something not many Tigers managed that evening.  

Michael

[Peter Welch]

All fine and dandy until Malloy does his best Delmon Young impersonation at the wrong time.

If Malloy keeps going 2-4 with a homer then I'm fine with carrying his questionable defense, but if he's going to keep putting up sub.-700 OPS I want better defense in there.

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[Michael W]

> All fine and dandy until Malloy does his best Delmon Young impersonation at the wrong time.

Lots of players make errors at critical times and cost their team a game. You can't control that.  The real question is,  what's the aggregate value of the defensive differential between one player and another over the course of a season.  And how does it compare to the offensive difference.  

>If Malloy keeps going 2-4 with a homer then I'm fine with carrying his questionable defense, but if he's going to keep putting up sub.-700 OPS I want better defense in there.

Personally, I predict he will hit.  But either way, he's done enough in the minors to have earned the chance to prove it.  And his inexperience in the outfield shouldn't prevent that.

Michael

[Peter Welch]

I'd be more comfortable with Malloy at DH.  If you have to start him in the OF then get him out of there for a better defensive option if it's a close game in the later innings.

By the way, Malloy reportedly looked ok defensively at 1B in spring training.  1B might be a better option for him defensively if he's not going to DH (yes, I realize Tork seems to have a hold on the regular 1B job now).

Malloy has the best batting eye on the team (and one of the best in baseball).  He showed good power in the minors.  You'd think eventually it will come together for him in the majors.  

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[Peter Welch]

This evening's game 2 lineup vs. lefty Keegan Akin (3.27 ERA):

1. Gleyber Torres (R) DH
2. Riley Greene (L) CF
3. Justyn-Henry Malloy (R) RF
4. Spencer Torkelson (R) 1B
5. Colt Keith (L) 2B
6. Zach McKinstry (L) LF
7. Tomás Nido (R) C
8. Jace Jung (L) 3B
9. Trey Sweeney (L) SS

A.J. has his reasons, but this is a bit of a weird lineup.

Tigers with 5 lefties vs. the lefty Akin but not Carpenter.

Strange that lefty killer Ibanez isn't starting at 3B vs. the lefty and the lefty Jung gets the start instead.

Also, I'm not sure Baez isn't starting against a lefty, especially since he had 3 hits in the opener.

Colt Keith hasn't been playing much lately.  It's time he starts hitting better because I think he's headed to Toledo soon, especially after Vierling comes off the IL.

Righty Keider Montero (7.71 ERA) gets the start for the Tigers.  Who the heck knows which version of Montero will show up?

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[Peter Welch]

It looks like Akin will just be an opener and will only be going a couple of innings so maybe that's why Hinch put a bunch of lefties in the lineup.

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[Peter Welch]

Yep, righty Charlie Morton is now coming in for the O's with 2 outs in the 2nd.

The 41-year-old Morton has struggled this year (10.89 ERA).

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[Peter Welch]

Morton has been all over the place with his pitches and the Tigers have made him pay.  Riley Greene with a 3-run homer in the 3rd.  Greene got a first pitch fastball down the middle and crushed it to RF after Jung started the inning drawing a walk and Sweeney singled.  Torres worked a 3-2 count and hit the ball hard up the middle, but Henderson made a nice play for a force out at 2nd.  Greene then swung at the first pitch and hit it a mile.

Tigers lead 3-1 in the top of the 4th.

I continue to be impressed by the Tigers' hitters patient at-bats.   Even the guys who are struggling to get hits like Malloy, Keith and Jung keep drawing a lot of walks and drive up pitch counts of the opposing pitchers.

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[Peter Welch]

Tigers win the nightcap 6-2 and sweep the doubleheader.  Another series win in the books.

Montero was living on the edge as the O's hit the ball hard several times, but we survived his start with minimal damage.

Skubal starts tomorrow.  

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[Peter Welch]

Tonight's lineup vs. lefty Yusei Kikuchi (4.31 ERA):

1. Justyn-Henry Malloy (R) RF
2. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
3. Riley Greene (L) DH

1. Andy Ibáñez (R) 3B
2. Spencer Torkelson (R) 1B

1. Zach McKinstry (L) LF
2. Dillon Dingler (R) C

1. Javier Báez (R) CF
2. Trey Sweeney (L) SS

Casey Mize (2.12 ERA) is starting for the Tigers.

Mike Trout is not in the lineup for the Angels.  He has a sore knee.

Trout is a great player but the dude is rarely healthy.

The Tigers often struggle in Anaheim (and on the West Coast in general) so I'll take splitting the series even though on paper the Tigers are stronger.

Peter

[Roger King]

Javy Baez just cannot be contained. He has homered for the second straight game.  The OPS is dangerously close to .800 at .796 :-)

Tigers up 2-1 in the 3rd. 

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[Peter Welch]

Baez made an excellent catch in the 5th in deep CF to take away a possible homer from Jorge Soler.

Mize has gone 6 innings but allowed 4 runs. Tigers are losing 4-2.  The bats need to wake up.  Tork is 0-3 and now hitting .234.  🙁

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[Peter Welch]

Here's Baez's catch: https://twitter.com/i/status/1918139570920505487

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[Roger King]

Here’s the Baez catch 

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[Jeffrey Withey]

Baez has been legit good in CF and his hitting has been improving as the season progresses. He is finally not a sinkhole in the lineup. I am kind of afraid to see what happens when Vierling/Meadows come back. The easy move would be to send Sweeney down and put Baez back at SS. 

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[Peter Welch]

Vierling replaces Jung when Vierling is activated, and then Baez can platoon with Meadows in CF after Meadows cones back.

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[Peter Welch]

Wow, the Tigers erupt for 5 in the 8^th and now 3 in the 9^th and now lead 10-4.  LOL!

Dingler with a 3-run homer and Tork with a 2-run shot.  Lots of Reverse Voodoo there!  Ha ha!

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[Roger King]

Well, it’s not 35-5 but it is 20-12 and good enough for the best record in the American League as we begin May. 

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[Rob Hawks]

Saw a post on the Tiger's Instagram page that said this was the first time ever that the Tigers had 19 wins at the end of April. I thought I read it wrong and quickly checked the team's 1984 record. What didn't spring to mind right away was that at the end of April 1984 the team had only played 20 games because the season started several days into the month. 20 games in 1984 (18-2) vs 31 in 2025 (19-12). 

Rob

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[Paul Meloche]

I think there were a lot of weather cancellations in April of that year, too. The Tigers played a lot of doubleheaders in the summer. I know some of those were probably scheduled as that was the norm in those days but some were makeup games.

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[Michael W]

That was an excellent finish!

Michael 

[Peter Welch]

Tigers were 17-13 (.567) at the end of April last year.  We were all excited because they got off to a really good start, but then they tanked for almost 3 months.  Injuries to some key players were a big factor (plus underperformance from Tork, Baez being terrible, and Maeda being a bust).

I think this year's team probably won't tank, but we need the top players to stay healthy.  It's a long season.

The good news is that we still have the best record in the majors despite several guys in the lineup struggling to hit and some bad fielding at times.

We've had our share of injuries as well, but fortunately our "stars" have stayed relatively healthy (knock on wood).  

At least we have some depth with Vierling and possibly Meadows and W. Perez coming back in the next few weeks, and we've seen what Hinch can do with the pitching staff if it faces some adversity.  We have some bullpen depth in Toledo, and Montero is a decent "6th starter".

 

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[Roger King]

Best record in the AL, not the majors :-)

I think it's good that the Tigers are not just relying on 1 or 2 hitters and Skubal to carry them.  It's a mix of things keeping them in the win column and there's more balance.  Sure, McKinstry is overperforming but Colt Keith is underperforming.  Tork turning things around is unlikely to be a fluke because he's a former #1 pick.  This is kind of what he was supposed to do.  Riley Greene can have a slump for a week or two but other guys will chip in etc,

Sort of that different hero every night theme we've seen from successful Tiger teams in the past like in 1984, 2006 etc.  

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[Paul Meloche]

Sweeney, Keith, and Jung have been the only real sinkholes in the lineup, but as has been pointed out they are all good to varying degrees at working counts and taking walks. So they're adding some offensive value.

I'm guessing Jung is the one that goes down once Vierling comes back. Sweeney is arguably worse but he plays SS. Even if Baez moves back to SS he needs a backup. That being said, once we get either Perez or Meadows back then I think Sweeney has to be the next one that goes to Toledo. This all assuming everyone currently on the ML roster stays healthy.

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[Peter Welch]

Yeah, McKinstry can be backup SS to Baez if they send Sweeney down for Vierling.  Ironically, I'd rather keep Baez in the outfield.  He is less likely to make a wild throw when playing OF (plus he's shown decent range in the OF).  It's always an adventure when he's making a throw from SS.  Neither Baez or Sweeney are reliable at making a throw from SS.  I hope Kevin McGonigle can get healthy soon (he's rehabbing a sprained ankle) and maybe later this season he can take over SS (although realistically McGonigle's timeline is probably next year).

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[Peter Welch]

Malloy might be sent down when Vierling comes back.  Jung at least has been playing a good defensive 3B (he's drastically improved over last year).  It would be nice if he could start getting some hits, though.

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[Peter Welch]

Tonight's lineup vs. veteran righty Kyle Hendricks (6.65 ERA).  Hendricks' fastball is in the 86-88 mph range, similar to Kenta Maeda's.  So naturally expect the Tigers to get shut out.  🙁

1. Kerry Carpenter (L) RF
2. Zach McKinstry (L) LF
3. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
4. Riley Greene (L) CF
5. Colt Keith (L) DH
6. Spencer Torkelson (R) 1B

1. Jace Jung (L) 3B
2. Trey Sweeney (L) SS

1. Dillon Dingler (R) C

Good to see Torres back in the lineup.

Tork moves down to 6th.  He's hitting .136 in the past 2 weeks.  The good news is that Tork still has about a 20% walk rate in that span and has hit 3 homers.

He's struggling to get hits, but has had some bad luck in that stretch as he's had several balls that were hit well but were caught.  His BABIP is only .100 in the past 2 weeks.  No need to panic yet on Tork.

Peter

[Peter Welch]

Beau Brieske was activated from the IL and Tyler Owens sent back to Toledo.

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[Peter Welch]

You just knew the Tigers wouldn't do anything against the junkballer Hendricks.  Interestingly Hendricks, despite his 6.65 ERA, has induced the one of the lowest average exit velocities in the majors.  He ranks even higher than Skubal.  So despite his powderpuff fastball, Hendricks gets weak contact.  The Tigers have been hitting a bunch of choppers against him so far.  They're completely befuddled by his curveball and change-up.

Angels lead 1-0 in the bottom of the 4^th thanks to Carpenter and Greene colliding on a routine 2-out flyball to right-center that caused Greene to drop the ball.  They were both calling each other off and didn't seem to be listening.  Fortunately they didn't get hurt.

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[Roger King]

Yeah, frustrating game to watch. It’s not like the Tigers are swinging wildly and missing. Just a lot of soft contact as you say Peter.  Just 2 Tiger singles so far in 6 innings. 

Flaherty must be frustrated, having pitched very well and only given up that one unearned  run so far. 

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[Peter Welch]

Sigh.  Angels have scored 4 in the 6^th against Flaherty and now lead 5-0.  That's 2 so-so starts in a row for Flaherty.  He doesn't seem to be ramping up his fastball and relying on his breaking stuff.

We'll need to wake up against the Angels' bullpen, unless they keep Hendricks in there.   They might as well since the Tigers look clueless against him.

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This is basically like being shut out by Kenta Maeda.  Did the Tigers' hitters not study video of Hendricks?

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[Jeffrey Withey]

To be fair, his stuff has a ton of movement. Looks difficult to hit despite low velocity. Maeda was just throwing BP. 

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[Peter Welch]

Angels lead 5-0 in the top of the 8th.  Hendricks still in there.

Yes, to his credit Hendricks is really hitting his spots with his breaking stuff and has the Tigers totally off balance with his changeup.  They keep topping the ball or hitting weak flyballs. 

Hendricks has had 2 decent starts and 3 bad ones. He did toss 5 2-hit shutout innings vs. the Rays on April 8.

He got roughed for 7 runs in 3 IP with 5 walks in his last start at Minnesota.

The guy has had a long major league career despite a weak fastball.  He knows how to pitch.  

It's still frustrating to see the Tigers get shut out by him.  He'll probably get bombed by the Orioles in his next start.

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[Peter Welch]

Tigers lose 5-2.  As usual the Tigers made it interesting after doing nothing most of the game.  They actually hit the ball very hard in the 8^th and 9^th and had some bad luck.   As soon as they faced guys throwing in the 90s they started getting better cuts.  Dingler had several hard-hit foul balls before flying out to end the 8th with Sweeney at 2B.  Malloy smoked the ball to start the 9th but it was straight to the leftfielder.  Ibanez and Torres hit the ball hard in the 9^th and got hits.  Greene and Keith then smoked the ball vs. Jansen with nothing to show for it.

Let's win the series on Sunday, but I'll still take a split on the the West Coast since we often really struggle there.

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Tonight's lineup in Detroit vs. veteran lefty Patrick Corbin (3.28 ERA):
Tarik Skubal on the mound for the Tigers.

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2. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
3. Riley Greene (L) LF
4. Andy Ibáñez (R) 3B
5. Spencer Torkelson (R) DH
6. Colt Keith (L) 1B

1. Dillon Dingler (R) C
2. Javier Báez (R) CF
3. Trey Sweeney (L) SS

Riley Greene was 0-8 in Colorado (and was 2-8 vs. the Angels).  He was about the only Tigers' hitter not to join the fun. Greene even grounded into a DP vs. a position player who was pitching in garbage time.

Malloy trying to save his spot after having a good hitting series in Colorado (and he made a diving catch in RF to end the game on Wednesday).  I guess it will be between Malloy and Jung who gets sent down for Vierling.

Colt Keith has a 1.072 OPS with 4 homers in 29 AB in the past 2 weeks.  He hit a monstrous 450-foot homer on Wednesday.  I'd say he's over his slow start.  Colt seems to not like the month of April.  He didn't hit most of last April either and then got hot in May.  He's doing it again.

Trey Sweeney has a .975 OPS in the past 2 weeks.  Sweeney was below .600 OPS but is now at .733 OPS overall.  Sweeney is even hitting .308 vs. lefties.  He always struggled against lefties in the minors.  If Sweeney can hang around .700-.725 OPS that will be ok as a stopgap SS until McGonigle is ready.

Peter

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[Peter Welch]

Besides Greene, Kerry Carpenter didn't do much in Colorado either.  He was 2-14 with 2 singles.

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[Peter Welch]

Tonight's lineup in Toronto vs. righty Bowden Francis (5.40 ERA in 8 starts):

1. Kerry Carpenter (L) RF
2. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
3. Colt Keith (L) DH
4. Riley Greene (L) LF
5. Spencer Torkelson (R) 1B
6. Zach McKinstry (L) 3B
7. Dillon Dingler (R) C
8. Trey Sweeney (L) SS
9. Javier Báez (R) CF
   
   The struggling Jack Flaherty starts for the Tigers.  Fans are starting to get antsy about Flaherty.  If he has another bad outing and his fastball velocity is still only in the lower 90s with no life. I'm really wondering if he's going to end up on the IL.  He's had a lot of back issues in the past.
   
   Jays are 21-22 on the season.  Their pitching is shaky. 
   Vlad, Jr. (.832 OPS) is always dangerous, though.  SS Bo Bichette (.754 OPS) is hitting better than last year and George Springer (.878 OPS) is still a threat.  
   Anthony Santander, who hit 44 homers last year for the O's, is only hitting .187 with a .582 OPS and 5 homers in 39 games.  The rest of their lineup is "meh".
   
   Peter

[Roger King]

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2-0 Tigers in the 4th.  

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[Jason Rice]

I'm in section 228. Make that 4-0 in the top of the 5th with the bases loaded. 

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[Jason Rice]

Flaherty is pitching much better than his last start vs Texas. 13 first pitch strikes on 19 hitters. Pitch count at 82 through 5.2 IP.

4-0 Tigers bottom 6

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[Peter Welch]

Tigers hang on to win 5-4.  Brieske does his Todd Jones "Roller Coaster" impersonation for the save.

Wish Flaherty could go a little deeper into the game, but we'll take it.

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[Paul Meloche]

Oops, Jason jinxed him. Varsho hit a two-run homer right after that and Flaherty's night was done.

Tigers hold on to win 5-4, though. None of the relievers were particularly sharp tonight but they got the job done. 

That's win #30 on May 16 - the 1984 team won their 30th on May 17th. It should be noted that this season started a week earlier than '84, and the '84 team had a lot of weather postponements early in the season.

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[Jason Rice]

My RV needs work

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[Roger King]

Only one team in baseball has 30 wins!  

Javy Baez made a great diving catch and hit the solo home run that was the difference in the game.   I enjoyed it thoroughly! :-)

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[Jason Rice]

The diving catch leading to the 8-3 DP in the 2nd

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Javy's HR in the 8th

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[Peter Welch]

Tonight's lineup vs. righty Tanner Bibee (4.06 ERA in 9 starts):

1. Kerry Carpenter (L) RF
2. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B

1. Zach McKinstry (L) 3B

1. Riley Greene (L) LF
2. Spencer Torkelson (R) 1B

1. Colt Keith (L) DH

1. Dillon Dingler (R) C
2. Trey Sweeney (L) SS
3. Javier Báez (R) CF

Jack "4 innings" Flaherty on the mound for the Tigers.  

Guardians' offense isn't scary, but they still have Jose Ramirez and Steven Kwan.

Lane Thomas and David Fry, who gave us trouble in the playoffs last year, are currently injured.

Cleveland's vaunted bullpen has been a bit less effective this year.  Their normally lights-out closer, Emmanuel Clase, has been surprisingly hittable (4.50 ERA and 27 hits allowed in 20 IP).  The Tigers gave him trouble last year, but you still don't want to be facing his 100+ mph heaters if you're down in the 9th.

Clase has been better this month as he hasn't allowed a run in 7 appearances.

Peter

[Peter Welch]

Torres lifted from the game after 3 innings.

Looks like he got hurt swinging in his last at-bat.  Sigh.

Tigers trail 2-0 in the 4th.  Flaherty started losing effectiveness in the 4th after 3 no-hit innings.

Peter 

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[Jeffrey Withey]

He is also getting seriously squeezed by the umpire. Pitches well into the zone called balls, including to Santana before he hit the run scoring double. 

Still 2-0 after 4. 

Jeff

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[Mike Coveyou]

Lane Thomas is off the IL and in the lineup tonight for the Guardians.

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[Peter Welch]

Yeah, the umpire missed several strikes in that 2-run 4th inning.  Flaherty actually ended up with a decent start (3 runs on 3 hits with 8 Ks in 6.2 IP) and with better umpiring might only have given up 1 run.

Tigers trail 3-0 in the top of the 8th.  They've only managed 3 singles and a walk against Bibee.  We're going to need some late-inning magic again.

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[Peter Welch]

Tigers load the bases with nobody out in the 8^th against lefty Tim Herrin.  Cleveland brings in the tough righty Cade Smith and he strikes out Baddoo, McKinstry and Greene, all swinging.  Baddoo pinch hit for Ibanez.  I know Ibanez hits righties worse than lefties, but I would have left Ibanez in there.  Baddoo didn't stand a chance against Smith.  Smith is a heck of a reliever.  Nasty stuff.

At least we scared the Guardians a bit, but now we'll get Clase in the 9th.  Maybe the bad Clase will show up.

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[Peter Welch]

No need for Clase.  Guardians win 7-0.

The Guardians are getting to be as annoying as the Twins.

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[Peter Welch]

Umpire report card showed the umpire last night (Will Little) allowed 1.22 runs due to favorable calls for Cleveland.  You could argue he rattled Flaherty with his missed calls in the 4th enough to give up the 2 runs that inning.

Sean Guenther also got squeezed in the 9^th before the Guardians scored 4 runs to put the game out of sight.  McKinstry's error probably rattled Guenther as well.

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Tonight's lineup vs. rookie righty Slade Cecconi (5.40 in 1 start, which was his major league debut at Cinci).

1. Kerry Carpenter (L) RF
2. Gleyber Torres (R) DH
3. Colt Keith (L) 2B
4. Dillon Dingler (R) C
5. Spencer Torkelson (R) 1B
6. Trey Sweeney (L) SS
7. Andy Ibáñez (R) 3B
8. Akil Baddoo (L) LF
9. Javier Báez (R) CF

Tigers haven't faced Cecconi before.  We have a habit of disappearing against Cleveland pitchers the first time we face them.  We'll see.

Ibanez gets a rare start vs. a righty.

This might be Baddoo's last chance to do something with Detroit.  Vierling has to be close to coming back now (plus Meadows is rehabbing now as well)

Good to see Torres in the lineup after being lifted last night with the sore leg.  He probably won't be able to run much, though.

Greene and McKinstry getting a break.  They both looked bad last night so maybe just to clear their heads.

Jobe starting for the Tigers.  We'll probably need some runs.

Peter

[Peter Welch]

Tigers trail 2-0 in the 3rd.  The Tigers' bats seem dead again against the rookie.  Maybe we can get to him the 2^nd time through the order.

Kwan and Ramirez gave Jobe trouble in the 1st but he seems to have settled down.

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[Peter Welch]

Tigers lose 3-1.

We couldn't do anything against the rookie we've never faced before as usual.

Not a good night for Kerry Carpenter defensively as he bungled a couple of plays that perhaps cost 2 runs.

Baez also was a bit awkward on Ramirez's triple to CF in the 1st.

At least Jobe did ok.  He still throws too many pitches but he kept us in the game.

The Guardians are starting to be very annoying.  

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[Peter Welch]

Tonight's lineup vs. tough righty Logan Webb (2.67 ERA in 11 starts).

Jack Flaherty on the mound for the Tigers.

1. Kerry Carpenter (L) RF

1. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
2. Colt Keith (L) DH

1. Riley Greene (L) LF
2. Spencer Torkelson (R) 1B

1. Wenceel Pérez (S) CF

1. Dillon Dingler (R) C
2. Trey Sweeney (L) SS

1. Javier Báez (R) 3B

Defense might be a bit weaker with Perez in CF and Baez at 3B.

Parker Meadows is rehabbing in Toledo (he hit a homer on Sunday) and playing CF, but is still probably several days away from being activated.

Looks like Dingler is pretty much the regular catcher now.  Rogers got "Wally Pipped".  Jake just doesn't hit well enough to be the #1 catcher especially since Dingler's defense and game calling have been getting praise.

We need the good version of Flaherty tonight as the Tigers will likely have trouble scoring runs vs. Webb.  Need to hang in there to get to the Giants' bullpen.

Peter

[Paul Meloche]

The Giants pen is really, really good. We had some nice ABs against Eric Miller which kept SF from getting to Rodriguez/Doval/Rogers/Walker. 

I'd expect another low scoring game today - I'm making an assumption that Flaherty continues to build on his last couple starts and Webb will be tough as he usually is. The Giants are a mess offensively right now so here's hoping they don't snap out of it in this series.

 

Webb beat us last year in SF - it was actually the last loss before the Tigers went on their famous run to end the season. We beat Webb in Detroit two years ago in a game where some seeing-eye hits and poor Giants defense helped the Tigers.

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[Peter Welch]

Webb was pretty good tonight with 10 Ks in 6 IP but the Tigers got to him in the early innings as he gave up 3 runs in the first 3 innings before settling down.  Riley Greene had Webb's number, going 3-3 with 2 doubles and 2 RBIs so far, and Wenceel Perez with a solo shot.  Welcome back, Wenceel!

Flaherty brought his A game tonight and tossed 6 shutout innings.  Possibly his best start of the season.

Tigers lead 3-0 in the top of the 8th.  Let's hope it's enough BISN.

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[Peter Welch]

Vest was a little shaky in the 9th, but closed it out.  Tigers win 3-1.

Not a lot of offense from the Tigers lately but the starting pitching has been very good.

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[Paul Meloche]

The Giants announcers thought that Webb’s sinker played to Greene’s swing path/strength. 

Flaherty was indeed sharp but gave up a couple of long flyballs that would have probably been homers if the wind hadn’t been blowing in a bit. 

Tork looked pretty bad at the plate tonight - kind of like the Tork of last year. Hopefully it’s just a blip. 

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[Peter Welch]

Tonight's lineup vs. righty Seth Lugo (3.02 ERA in 9 starts) in Kansas City.  Lugo was just activated from the IL after having a finger injury.

Lugo is usually pretty tough to hit despite not having overpowering stuff.  Hopefully he'll be rusty since he's been out for a while.

1. Kerry Carpenter (L) RF
2. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
3. Colt Keith (L) DH
4. Riley Greene (L) LF
5. Spencer Torkelson (R) 1B
6. Wenceel Pérez (S) CF

1. Zach McKinstry (L) 3B

1. Dillon Dingler (R) C
2. Trey Sweeney (L) SS

Casey Mize on the mound for the Tigers.  

Would nice if the bats wake up a bit.

Peter