RE: (Desiyatra)-- Taj Mahal India

[Tara Chand]

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From: Smriti Garg
Sent: 10/08/2011, 6:50 PM
To: Desiyatra
Subject: (Desiyatra)-- Taj Mahal India

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[Dirgha Raj Prasai]

The History of Taj Mahal
By Dirgha Raj Prasai (Nepal)

About 950 years ago the Muslims invaded India. The Taj Mahal was a
pre-existing structure before but it was said to be built by Shah
Jahan. We have all heard how the Taj Mahal, which is considered one of
the great wonders of the world, was built as the preeminent expression
of a man's love for a wife. That it was built by Emperor Shah Jahan in
commemoration of his wife Mumtaz. But the truth is that the Taj Mahal
was never built by Shah Jahan. Some say the Taj Mahal pre-dates Shah
Jahan by several centuries and was originally built as a Hindu or
Vedic temple/palace complex-known as-'Tejomahalaya' (powerfull Siva),
the Hindu King Jai Singh. We can find 'OM' and various Vedic prints in
the entarnal wall of that Tejomahalaya.

In this context, Prof. P. N. Oak, who believes the whole world has
been duped. In his book Taj Mahal: The True Story, Oak says the Taj
Mahal is not Queen Mumtaz's tomb but an ancient Hindu temple palace of
Lord Shiva (then known as Tejo Mahalaya ). In the course of his
research Oak discovered that the Shiva temple palace was usurped by
Shah Jahan from then Maharaja of Jaipur, Jai Singh. In his own court
chronicle, Badshahnama, Shah Jahan admits that an exceptionally
beautiful grand mansion in Agra was taken from Jai Singh for Mumtaz's
burial.The ex-Maharaja of Jaipur still
retains in his secret collection two orders from Shah Jahan for
surrendering the Taj building. Using captured temples and mansions, as
a burial place for dead courtiers and royalty was a common practice
among Muslim rulers. Prof. Oak points out a number of design and
architectural inconsistencies that support the belief of the Taj Mahal
being a typical Hindu temple rather than a mausoleum. Many rooms in
the Taj ! Mahal have remained sealed since Shah Jahan's time and are
still inaccessible to the public. Prof. Oak asserts they contain a
headless statue of Lord Shiva and other objects commonly used for
worship rituals in Hindu temples

Prof. Marvin Miller of New York took a few samples from the riverside
doorway of the Taj. Carbon dating tests revealed that the door was 300
years older than Shah Jahan. European traveler Johan Albert
Mandelslo,who visited Agra in 1638 (only seven years after Mumtaz's
death), describes the life of the cit y in his memoirs. But he makes
no reference to the Taj Mahal being built. The writings of Peter
Mundy, an English visitor to Agra within a year of Mumtaz's death,
also suggest the Taj was a noteworthy building well before Shah
Jahan's time.'

This is not unlike the many other buildings that were acquired by the
Muslim invaders to be used for their own purposes. The point to
consider is how much more of India's history has been distorted if the
background of such a grand building is so inaccurate. The evidence
that shows the Taj Mahal and many other buildings may not have been of
Muslim origin.

'The architecture is definitely of Hindu orientation and could very
well have been designed as a Shiva temple; the issue of the arch and
the dome; how the invader Timurlung (1398) took back thousands of
prisoner craftsmen to build his capital at Samarkhand and where the
dome could have been incorporated into Islamic architecture; how it
was not Shah Jahan's religious tolerance that could have been a reason
for Hindu elements in the design of the Taj.'- Stephen Knapp,
www.stephen-knapp.com I think- the automatic falling the droops of
water managed for the Lord Shiva who converted after for the queen
Shah Jahan's body.
Thank you
Kathmandu

[MALIK]

WHAT A BLUNDER NONSENSE , MUSLIMS FIRST INVADED INDIA IN 15TH CENTUERY ,
THAT WAS BABAR ITS JUST 500 YRS A GO,PLEASE DONT SAY ANYTHING WHAT YOU WANT
PEOPLE KNOW THE HISTORY.

Accountant
Siku Group of Companies
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[Mukund Apte]

      Dear Sir,
      Attached are some information in two separate attachments received from my friend Dr Vasudeo Godbole from UK. You may like to know.
      Kindly let me know when you receive them and how you consider them.
      With regards to all,
      ------Mukund Apte

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      With regards to all,
      ------Mukund Apte

[Trishool]

Please read,

1. Taj Mahal - A Hindu Temple-Palace
2. Destruction Of Hindu Temples By Muslims - Part I
3. Destruction Of Hindu Temples By Muslims - Part II
4. Destruction Of Hindu Temples By Muslims - Part III
5. Destruction Of Hindu Temples By Muslims - Part IV (The Epigraphic Evidence)
6. 
   

Lal  Gehi

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From: Dirgha Raj Prasai <dirghar...@gmail.com>
To: desi...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 6:24 AM

Subject: Re: (Desiyatra)-- Taj Mahal India

[Trishool]

The robbers robbed India, when people were sleeping, That is an act of cowardice, similarly, terrorists kill innocent people on the streets, there is nothing to be proud of. !

If Muslims are mighty and powerful, let them touch Israel, and feel the power of live Jewish community. 

Less than 13 million Jews, dictate and dominate, 1.3 billion hostile Muslims in the world. Now where is your Muslim pride. ?!

Trishool   

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From: MALIK <acco...@sikumw.com>
To: desi...@googlegroups.com
Cc: dirghar...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 6:59 AM

[Rabinder Koul]

Islam first Invaded Sindh around 650 AD. It later attacked
Afghanistan, ruled by Trilochan Paal. Trilochan Paal lost but the
Muslim rule was thrown out and Hindu Shahi dynasty took over. Don't
display your ignorance of History.
Ravindra Koul
अस्मद्रूपसमाविष्ठ:
स्वात्मनात्मानिवारणे
शिव: करोतु निजया नम:
शक्त्या ततात्मने

[Albert Arul Prakash]

Can we demolish Taj mahal and construct a temple there.

 

People, lets forget what has happened. Let us think constructively. Any lord will not be happy when you demolish other God’s worship place (including Allah). All Gods are peace loving Gods, can we look into peace and start building a new world.

 

It is natural to destroy one kingdom’s identity when an invation is successful, No one knows how many other Vishnu temples were destroyed by shiv sainiks (not siva sena) during the war between Shiva and Vishnu followers.

 

None knows how many temples/churches/mosques were destroyed when Cholas invaded Vietnam.

 

I am sorry I am not a Hindu to say these but this is my humble request to fellow brothers and sisters.

 

Thanks,

Albert

 

From: desi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:desi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Trishool
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 8:52 PM
To: desi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: (Desiyatra)-- Taj Mahal India

 

Please read,

 

1.     Taj Mahal - A Hindu Temple-Palace

2.     Destruction Of Hindu Temples By Muslims - Part I

3.     Destruction Of Hindu Temples By Muslims - Part II

4.     Destruction Of Hindu Temples By Muslims - Part III

5.     Destruction Of Hindu Temples By Muslims - Part IV (The Epigraphic Evidence)

6.      

[MALIK]

Dear Mr Apte,

                      I have gone through your sent Attachment & found it nothing but one more conspiracy ,  It may be true that Shahjahan may buy the Land from Raja Maan Singh But it has completely demolished, restructured &  People worked & witnessed , May Britishers  try to hide it but does it evaprate from people mind too , Do you follow your relegion just reading its books only , no but the information which pass to you from your parents to them from their ansistors & to them from their ansistors . What a kidish story has published by Godbole , When French writer of that time wrote its wrong , What Brithishers exposed is conspiracy , But what Oak express is true isnt it ? while he dont even completed the last parts of his book Coz he may have realise what ever he is trying to find out is not having any base .

 

Moral of the Story is Even if Shahjan or any other emperor of that time may have bought the land of Tajmahal from Raja Man singh then it no more remain for him it belong to Shahjahan , May be there would be any temple that time like we have Temple or prayer hall at our house but when we sell it every thing belongs to buyer either he could keep it vacant or build something over it simple as that .

 

IK SHARMA READ  PROPERLY THE ABOVE  

 

Accountant  
Siku Group of Companies                            
Blantyre
Tel:   + 265 01 871 432
Email: acco...@sikumw.com

 

 

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From: Mukund Apte

To: desi...@googlegroups.com

Cc: Dirgha Raj Prasai ; Lal Bahadur Thapa ; Vasu

Sent: 12 August, 2011 5:19 PM

Subject: Re: (Desiyatra)-- Taj Mahal India

[MALIK]

May be you are establishing your own History , Please explain who was that
person invaded sindh in 650 AD .

[MALIK]

LAL,

         What who did was not asked , It was just he mentioned by Mr Prasai that Muslims Invaded India in 950 AD so i explained him it was 15 centuary when it was first invaded , But what you mentioned below is entirely diffrent But let me answer you .

 

 Q 1 )If Muslims are mighty and powerful, let them touch Israel, and feel the power of live Jewish community. 

 

Ans ) The people there in palestine are fighting there for thier land & rights , & INSHALLAH oneday this jews wil be chased how they have been chased from Germany , Can you manage to do anything if anything get wrong to Some one from your relegion outside INDIA ? You are just noisy without logic.

 

Q 2) Less than 13 million Jews, dictate and dominate, 1.3 billion hostile Muslims in the world. Now where is your Muslim pride.

 

Ans ) Can you please explain how they dictate & dominate Muslims, Do you mean they are the owner for most of the big brands? if thats the case then 80 millions Hindus are also in their hands they dictate you also so what is the difference ? they sold their product in our country also & make money. Just to capture palestine does not mean they control whole Muslims, There ae lots of Hindus get frustrutated in Srilanka , Burma, etc what did you did where is your pride that time.

[devinde...@btopenworld.com]

 Very sensible comment. There will be unbelievable fall out for such an act. It would be  so violent and widespread due to the worldwide popularity of Taj Mahal that we in India would soon know what a foolish thing we have done.

 

Already a  political  party made a decision to demolish a sixteenth century  unused mosque, we are still paying the price for it in  terms of terrorism and have we build the promised temple on its place.??

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From: Albert Arul Prakash <albertin...@yahoo.com>
To: desi...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 16 August, 2011 20:12:39
Subject: RE: (Desiyatra)-- Taj Mahal India

[savarkar vinayak]

Malik

 

Living in India and eating its harvest are you trying to support those invaders?  Taj mahal was a Hindu palalce and Shah Jahan stole took it from A Hindu King and altering its artface by changing it to islamic writings.

 

Be a kind of Nimak Halal.

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From: MALIK <acco...@sikumw.com>
To: desi...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wed, 17 August, 2011 8:25:03

[Sukhanandan]

Namaste.

We are celebrating RakshaBandhan 

on 21st Aug, Sunday at 9:30AM-11:00AM in 7 Tree community Hall ( 3590 Cas Dr, San Jose, CA, 95111)
 

11:30:am we will be at Fire Station #18 at skyway and Monetry exp Way with San Jose councilman  Ash Kalra to appreciate and tie Rakhi to Firemen.

12:30PM on wards we will go to the near by temple ( 32 Rancho Drive, San Jose, CA, 95111)

Please participate. Most of us are Desi, understand what Rakshabandhan is. So I skip to explain it.

Sukhanandan
Cell: 408-421-9631
Home: 408-754-5614

[MALIK]

Savarker,

               First you should know Who was Shahjahan , He was the King of that time isnt it , He dont just Invaded India & was the first One but he was the 5th generation of Mughal if i am not Wrong , So he was also Indian like you are & if one India Buy or get some thing from another then it become his or hers , after buying it what he does with it is up to him or her , Please dont misinterprete the things when you dont have any thing left to say .

 

I am More Namak Halal then you, I Earn outside India & send FOREX to India so you guys should be Economically Stable .

[Rabinder Koul]

The mardud Zalil, Mohamad Bin Qasim  invaded Sindh in 638 four years after invading Persia in 634.  My date of 650 was from Memory. Actually Persia was annihilated withinn 17 years from 634 to 651. But Inda was attacked in 638 within 4 years after attacking Persia. You need to do some study. I understand being a Muslim yI should not expect scholarship from you.

http://www.historyofjihad.org/india.html?syf=contact

Muslims invaded India only four years after they invaded Persia

Very few know that while the Muslims invaded Persia in 634, they invaded Sindh in India on the orders of the gangster Umar (the Muslim Khalifa) in 638, just a gap of four years. But while Persia succumbed in seventeen years by 651, Muslims took seven hundred years to overrun India (today Sindh is a part of a Muslim country called Pakistan that was carved out of Hindu India in 1947). And even after that they could not rule India in peace.

If you want more I can give you lot more sources         

Mohamad Bin Quasim from Iraq

Ravindra Koul

अस्मद्रूपसमाविष्ठ: स्वात्मनात्मानिवारणे 

शिव: करोतु निजया नम: शक्त्या ततात्मने 

[Rabinder Koul]

The mardud Zalil, Mohamad Bin Qasim  invaded Sindh in 638 four years after invading Persia in 634.  My date of 650 was from Memory. Actually Persia was annihilated withinn 17 years from 634 to 651. But Inda was attacked in 638 within 4 years after attacking Persia. You need to do some study. I understand being a Muslim yI should not expect scholarship from you.

http://www.historyofjihad.org/india.html?syf=contact

Muslims invaded India only four years after they invaded Persia

Very few know that while the Muslims invaded Persia in 634, they invaded Sindh in India on the orders of the gangster Umar (the Muslim Khalifa) in 638, just a gap of four years. But while Persia succumbed in seventeen years by 651, Muslims took seven hundred years to overrun India (today Sindh is a part of a Muslim country called Pakistan that was carved out of Hindu India in 1947). And even after that they could not rule India in peace.

If you want more I can give you lot more sources         

Mohamad Bin Quasim from Iraq

Ravindra Koul

अस्मद्रूपसमाविष्ठ: स्वात्मनात्मानिवारणे 

शिव: करोतु निजया नम: शक्त्या ततात्मने 

On Aug 18, 2011, at 7:39 PM, Jay wrote:

kindly take us off this list

[Trishool]

Q 1 )If Muslims are mighty and powerful, let them touch Israel, and feel the power of live Jewish community. 

NO MUSLIM ARE NOT MIGHTY, BUT THEY ARE FRAUDULENT, EXPERT DECEIVERS. 

GREAT JEWS KNOW THEIR TRICK VERY WELL, THAT IS WHY LESS THAN 13 MILLION JEWS OF ISRAEL, DOMINATE AND DICTATE, 1.3 BILLION HOSTILE MUSLIMS OF THE WORLD. 

YES, MUSLIMS RULED AND FOOLED INDIA, WHEN INDIANS WERE SLEEPING. READ RAJPUT, HINDU / SIKH HISTORY, AND SIKH / MARATHA STRUGGLE WITH MUSLIMS. 

ALSO READ HISTORY OF RAJPUT KING, PIRTHVI RAJ CHAWHAN, AND FRAUD, CHEAT, MOHAMMAD GORI. 

Rest later. 

Trishool   

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From: MALIK <acco...@sikumw.com>
To: desi...@googlegroups.com
Cc: dirghar...@gmail.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:17 AM

[Trishool]

Mr. Malik,

READ THE HISTORY OF HINDU KING, RAJA DAHIR, AND CRIMINAL KILLER, MOHAMMAD BIN KASIM. YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT MOST SINDHI MUSLIMS ARE FORCIBLY CONVERTED TO ISLAM, THAT IS WHY MOST SINDHI MUSLIMS ARE SUFI MUSLIMS. 

READ THE VERSES OF SHAH LATIF, AND SACHAL SARMAST, WHO DEFIES MOHAMMAD AND HIS ISLAM. 

KALME MOONKHEY, KEE NA KAYO, MOOROON MUSALMAN,

( A kalima did not make me Muslim from my birth )

NAKI AHEMAD MOKLIYO, ARAB KHAN EEMAAN, 

( Neither Mohammad sent eemaan, to me, from Arabia )

" SACHAL" AA SUBAHAAN, AADMIYAN LEKHE AADMI

( I am the blessed creation of God, for ordinary people, I am ordinary human being )

Also, read facts of Balochistan, / Sindh. 

Trishool     

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From: MALIK <acco...@sikumw.com>

To: desi...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Rabinder Koul <arr...@ameritech.net>; dirghar...@gmail.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:02 AM

[Trishool]

READ THE HISTORY OF HINDU KING, RAJA DAHIR, AND CRIMINAL KILLER, MOHAMMAD BIN KASIM. YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT MOST SINDHI MUSLIMS ARE FORCIBLY CONVERTED TO ISLAM, THAT IS WHY MOST SINDHI MUSLIMS ARE SUFI MUSLIMS. 

READ THE VERSES OF SHAH LATIF, AND SACHAL SARMAST, WHO DEFIES MOHAMMAD AND HIS ISLAM. 

KALME MOONKHEY, KEE NA KAYO, MOOROON MUSALMAN,

( A kalima did not make me Muslim from my birth )

NAKI AHEMAD MOKLIYO, ARAB KHAN EEMAAN, 

( Neither Mohammad sent eemaan, to me, from Arabia )

" SACHAL" AA SUBAHAAN, AADMIYAN LEKHE AADMI

( I am the blessed creation of God, for ordinary people, I am ordinary human being )

Also, read facts of Balochistan, / Sindh. 

Trishool     

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From: Rabinder Koul <arr...@ameritech.net>
To: Jay <jay.l...@btinternet.com>
Cc: Rabinder Koul <arr...@ameritech.net>; desi...@googlegroups.com; MALIK <acco...@sikumw.com>; dirghar...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:24 PM

[Jitender Chaubey]

Dear Mr. Malik,

Pardon me for my question as it may be little awkward to ask you but it is eating my mind since long against the prophecy of Mohammad(PBUH). Here is my question and in reference to this question i am also attaching the information which i found in the internet even that i am attaching for your perusal so that you can answer it liberally because i am very well aware of the twisting in this question though many scholar of Islamic foundation have either agreed on or just tried themselves to give kind of conviction.

My question is Why Mohammad (PBUH) has to marry Aisha Radiallahu Anha at the age of 9 years and why has he proposed marriage Aisha Radiallahu Anha at the age when she was just 6 years of age and when Mohammad (PBUH) was 53 years of age. And likewise there were others female also who has married to Mohammad (PBUH) at the same age of Aisha and those names are given in the attachment for your reference. If i may ask you what was that compulsion under which Rasool has to do this when he was equally given opportunity to marry the another widow who was 30 years in age. Please give us to understand so that this kind of misunderstanding in us can eradicate and we can really try and understand the things in a right direction.

Regards

--
Dr.J Chaubey
Chief Operating Officer.


IBNM INDIA
Mumbai chapter,
Maharashtra.
____________________________________________________________________
"There Is No Road To Success, But Through A Clear Strong Will Power"

[MALIK]

Fair Enough , Agreed But sindh is not a part of India Now so you to give the example of  ancient India is not Digestable , If you take that way there were no Boundries once upon a time so you cant count that things  , We should better talk about the boundries our countries have now.

[MALIK]

Mr LAL,

             Why you are trying to Defend Raja Dahir, While Mohammed Bin Kasim comes from ARAB & invaded his territory , That also in countyr like INDIA powerful & strong the reason for his win was he was having the EMAAN , Mean faith in ALLAH  thats so why with very few troops.

 

Why are you writing the one phrase of the poetry read whole Nazam they are praising ALLLAH giving Importance to the Other relegions Followers also not like you to support the guys of your own relegion though he is wrong & keep on Praising you own Relegion & trying to critice others relegions .

 

Think about yours Behaviours you yourself will find your fault.

[khyali bhardwaj]

 

Dear friend,

Plese read

Regards,

KHYALI

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बी.बी.सी. कहता है........... ताजमहल........... एक छुपा हुआ सत्य.......... कभी मत कहो कि......... यह एक मकबरा है..........    ताजमहल का आकाशीय दृश्य......  आतंरिक पानी का कुंवा............   ताजमहल और गुम्बद के सामने का दृश्य  गुम्बद और शिखर के पास का दृश्य.....   शिखर के ठीक पास का दृश्य.........   आँगन में शिखर के छायाचित्र कि बनावट.....   प्रवेश द्वार पर बने लाल कमल........    ताज के पिछले हिस्से का दृश्य और बाइस कमरों का समूह........    पीछे की खिड़कियाँ और बंद दरवाजों का दृश्य........    विशेषतः वैदिक शैली मे निर्मित गलियारा.....    मकबरे के पास संगीतालय........एक विरोधाभास.........   ऊपरी तल पर स्थित एक बंद कमरा.........   निचले तल पर स्थित संगमरमरी कमरों का समूह.........   दीवारों पर बने हुए फूल......जिनमे छुपा हुआ है ओम् ( ॐ ) ....   निचले तल पर जाने के लिए सीढियां........   कमरों के मध्य 300फीट लंबा गलियारा..    निचले तल के२२गुप्त कमरों मे सेएककमरा...    २२ गुप्त कमरों में से एक कमरे का आतंरिक दृश्य.......    अन्य बंद कमरों में से एक आतंरिक दृश्य..      एक बंद कमरे की वैदिक शैली में  निर्मित छत......   ईंटों से बंद किया गया विशाल रोशनदान .....   दरवाजों में लगी गुप्त दीवार,जिससे अन्य कमरों का सम्पर्क था.....   बहुत से साक्ष्यों को छुपाने के लिए,गुप्त ईंटों से बंद किया गया दरवाजा......   बुरहानपुर मध्य प्रदेश मे स्थित महल जहाँ मुमताज-उल-ज़मानी कि मृत्यु हुई थी.......   बादशाह नामा के अनुसार,, इस स्थान पर मुमताज को दफनाया गया.........    अब कृपया  इसे पढ़ें .........  प्रो.पी. एन. ओक. को छोड़ कर किसी ने कभी भी इस कथन को चुनौती नही दी कि........  "ताजमहल शाहजहाँ ने बनवाया था"  प्रो.ओक. अपनी पुस्तक "TAJ MAHAL - THE TRUE STORY" द्वारा इस  बात में विश्वास रखते हैं कि,--    सारा विश्व इस धोखे में है कि खूबसूरत इमारत ताजमहल को मुग़ल बादशाह शाहजहाँ ने बनवाया था.....  ओक कहते हैं कि......  ताजमहल प्रारम्भ से ही बेगम मुमताज का मकबरा न होकर,एक हिंदू प्राचीन शिव मन्दिर है जिसे तब तेजो महालय कहा जाता था.  अपने अनुसंधान के दौरान ओक ने खोजा कि इस शिव मन्दिर को शाहजहाँ ने जयपुर के महाराज जयसिंह से अवैध तरीके से छीन लिया था और इस पर अपना कब्ज़ा कर लिया था,,    =>शाहजहाँ के दरबारी लेखक "मुल्ला अब्दुल हमीद लाहौरी "ने अपने "बादशाहनामा" में मुग़ल शासक बादशाह का सम्पूर्ण वृतांत 1000  से ज़्यादा पृष्ठों मे लिखा है,,जिसके खंड एक के पृष्ठ 402 और 403 परइस बात का उल्लेख है कि, शाहजहाँ की बेगम मुमताज-उल-ज़मानी जिसे मृत्यु के बाद, बुरहानपुर मध्य प्रदेश में अस्थाई तौर पर दफना दिया गया था और इसके ०६ माह बाद,तारीख़ 15 ज़मदी-उल- अउवल दिन शुक्रवार,को अकबराबाद आगरा लाया गया फ़िर उसे महाराजा जयसिंह से लिए गए,आगरा में स्थित एक असाधारण रूप से सुंदर और शानदार भवन (इमारते आलीशान) मे पुनः दफनाया गया,लाहौरी के अनुसार राजा जयसिंह अपने पुरखों कि इस आली मंजिल से बेहद प्यार करते थे ,पर बादशाह के दबाव मे वह इसे देने के लिए तैयार हो गए थे.    इस बात कि पुष्टि के लिए यहाँ ये बताना अत्यन्त आवश्यक है कि जयपुर के पूर्व महाराज के गुप्त संग्रह में वे दोनो आदेश अभी तक रक्खे हुए हैं जो शाहजहाँ द्वारा ताज भवन समर्पित करने के लिए राजा  जयसिंह को दिए गए थे.......    =>यह सभी जानते हैं कि मुस्लिम शासकों के समय प्रायः मृत दरबारियों और राजघरानों के लोगों को दफनाने के लिए, छीनकर कब्जे में लिए गए मंदिरों और भवनों का प्रयोग किया जाता था ,  उदाहरनार्थ हुमायूँ, अकबर, एतमाउददौला और सफदर जंग ऐसे ही भवनों मे दफनाये गए हैं ....    =>प्रो. ओक कि खोज ताजमहल के नाम से प्रारम्भ होती है---------    ="महल" शब्द, अफगानिस्तान से लेकर अल्जीरिया तक किसी भी मुस्लिम देश में भवनों के लिए प्रयोग नही किया जाता...  यहाँ यह व्याख्या करना कि महल शब्द मुमताज महल से लिया गया है......वह कम से कम दो प्रकार से तर्कहीन है---------  पहला -----शाहजहाँ कि पत्नी का नाम मुमताज महल कभी नही था,,,बल्कि उसका नाम मुमताज-उल-ज़मानी था ...  और दूसरा-----किसी भवन का नामकरण किसी महिला के नाम के आधार पर रखने के लिए केवल अन्तिम आधे भाग (ताज)का ही प्रयोग किया जाए और प्रथम अर्ध भाग (मुम) को छोड़ दिया जाए,,,यह समझ से परे है...    प्रो.ओक दावा करते हैं कि,ताजमहल नाम तेजो महालय (भगवान शिव का महल) का बिगड़ा हुआ संस्करण है, साथ ही साथ ओक कहते हैं कि----  मुमताज और शाहजहाँ कि प्रेम कहानी,चापलूस इतिहासकारों की भयंकर भूल और लापरवाह पुरातत्वविदों की सफ़ाई से स्वयं गढ़ी गई कोरी अफवाह मात्र है क्योंकि शाहजहाँ के समय का कम से कम एक शासकीय अभिलेख इस प्रेम कहानी की पुष्टि नही करता है.....    इसके अतिरिक्त बहुत से प्रमाण ओक के कथन का प्रत्यक्षतः समर्थन कर रहे हैं...... तेजो महालय (ताजमहल) मुग़ल बादशाह के युग से पहले बना था और यह भगवान् शिव को समर्पित था तथा आगरा के राजपूतों द्वारा पूजा जाता था-----  ==>न्यूयार्क के पुरातत्वविद प्रो. मर्विन मिलर ने ताज के यमुना की तरफ़ के दरवाजे की लकड़ी की कार्बन डेटिंग के आधार पर 1985 में यह सिद्ध किया कि यह दरवाजा सन् 1359 के आसपास अर्थात् शाहजहाँ के काल से लगभग 300 वर्ष पुराना है...  ==>मुमताज कि मृत्यु जिस वर्ष (1631) में हुई थी उसी वर्ष के अंग्रेज भ्रमण कर्ता पीटर मुंडी का लेख भी इसका समर्थन करता है कि ताजमहल मुग़ल बादशाह के पहले का एक अति महत्वपूर्ण भवन था......  ==>यूरोपियन यात्री जॉन अल्बर्ट मैनडेल्स्लो ने सन् 1638 (मुमताज कि मृत्यु के 07 साल बाद) में आगरा भ्रमण किया और इस शहर के सम्पूर्ण जीवन वृत्तांत का वर्णन किया,,परन्तु उसने ताज के बनने का कोई भी सन्दर्भ नही प्रस्तुत किया,जबकि भ्रांतियों मे यह कहा जाता है कि ताज का निर्माण कार्य1631 से 1651 तक जोर शोर से चल रहा था......  ==>फ्रांसीसी यात्री फविक्स बर्निअर एम.डी. जो औरंगजेब द्वारा गद्दीनशीन होने के समय भारत आया था और लगभग दस साल यहाँ रहा,के लिखित विवरण से पता चलता है कि,औरंगजेब के शासन के समय यह झूठ फैलाया जाना शुरू किया गया कि ताजमहल शाहजहाँ ने बनवाया था.......  प्रो. ओक. बहुत सी आकृतियों और शिल्प सम्बन्धी असंगताओं को इंगित करते हैं जो इस विश्वास का समर्थन करते हैं कि,ताजमहल विशाल मकबरा न होकर विशेषतः हिंदू शिव मन्दिर है.......  आज भी ताजमहल के बहुत से कमरे शाहजहाँ के काल से बंद पड़े हैं,जो आम जनता की पहुँच से परे हैं    प्रो. ओक., जोर देकर कहते हैं कि हिंदू मंदिरों में ही पूजा एवं धार्मिक संस्कारों के लिए भगवान् शिव की मूर्ति,त्रिशूल,कलश और ॐ आदि वस्तुएं प्रयोग की जाती हैं.......  ==>ताज महल के सम्बन्ध में यह आम किवदंत्ती प्रचलित है कि ताजमहल के अन्दर मुमताज की कब्र पर सदैव बूँद बूँद कर पानी टपकता रहता है,, यदि यह सत्य है तो पूरे विश्व मे किसी किभी कब्र पर बूँद बूँद कर पानी नही टपकाया जाता,जबकि प्रत्येक हिंदू शिव मन्दिर में ही शिवलिंग पर बूँद बूँद कर पानी टपकाने की व्यवस्था की जाती है,फ़िर ताजमहल (मकबरे) में बूँद बूँद कर पानी टपकाने का क्या मतलब....????    राजनीतिक भर्त्सना के डर से इंदिरा सरकार ने ओक की सभी पुस्तकें स्टोर्स से वापस ले लीं थीं और इन पुस्तकों के प्रथम संस्करण को छापने वाले संपादकों को भयंकर परिणाम भुगत लेने की धमकियां भी दी गईं थीं....  प्रो. पी. एन. ओक के अनुसंधान को ग़लत या सिद्ध करने का केवल एक ही रास्ता है कि वर्तमान केन्द्र सरकार बंद कमरों को संयुक्त राष्ट्र के पर्यवेक्षण में खुलवाए, और अंतर्राष्ट्रीय विशेषज्ञों को छानबीन करने दे ....      ज़रा सोचिये....!!!!!!  कि यदि ओक का अनुसंधान पूर्णतयः सत्य है तो किसी देशी राजा के बनवाए गए संगमरमरी आकर्षण वाले खूबसूरत,शानदार एवं विश्व के महान आश्चर्यों में से एक भवन, "तेजो महालय"को बनवाने का श्रेय बाहर से आए मुग़ल बादशाह शाहजहाँ को क्यों......?????    तथा......    इससे जुड़ी तमाम यादों का सम्बन्ध मुमताज-उल-ज़मानी से क्यों........???????      आंसू टपक रहे हैं, हवेली के बाम से,,,,,,,, रूहें लिपट के रोटी हैं हर खासों आम से..... अपनों ने बुना था हमें,कुदरत के काम से,,,, फ़िर भी यहाँ जिंदा हैं हम गैरों के नाम से......

 

 

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From: MALIK <acco...@sikumw.com>
To: desi...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Rabinder Koul <arr...@ameritech.net>; dirghar...@gmail.com

Sent: Fri, 19 August, 2011 12:27:31 PM

Subject: Re: (Desiyatra)-- Taj Mahal India



[Trishool]

All I want to tell you, that Muslims in India and Pakistan, were forcibly converted to Islam. !

The Islam did not exist in India, before 1400 years. 

That one example of Sufi poetry, is enough to tell you, that Sufi Muslims only believe in God, It is not necessary for them to accept Mohammad as their messenger, Similarly, there are 72 sects of Islam, they all have their own religious head, 

Trishool 

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From: MALIK <acco...@sikumw.com>
To: desi...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Rabinder Koul <arr...@ameritech.net>; dirghar...@gmail.com

Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:57 PM

Subject: Re: (Desiyatra)-- Taj Mahal India



[Trishool]

Encyclopedia of Islamic Myths: 
Muhammad's had no more than 4 wives.

　Muhammad violated the Qur’an by marrying more than 4 wives.
Muhammad violated humanity, by marrying a 6 year old girl, and had sex with her as early as 9, likely at age 6!

	Islam: Truth or Myth? start page

　

Saudi Marriage Official Says 1-Year-Old Brides OK

Call it marriage, Islamic style. Saudi marriage officiant Dr. Ahmad al-Mu’bi told Lebanese television viewers last week that it’s permissible for girls as young as 1 to marry — as long as sex is postponed. Al-Mu’bi’s remarkable comments also included an explanation that "there is no minimal age for entering marriage." "You can have a marriage contract even with a 1-year-old girl, not to mention a girl of 9, 7 or 8," he said. "But is the girl ready for sex or not?" What is the appropriate age for sex for the first time? This varies according to environment and tradition," al-Mu’bi said in an interview with LBC-TV." (Fox News, Wednesday, June 25, 2008)

　

Completely unlike Jesus Christ who never had sex with a woman, Muhammad’s was sexually involved with at least 22 women. Although in the Quran he would limit his followers to having four wives, he himself took more than four wives and many concubines. The question of the number of women with whom Muhammad was sexually involved either as wives, concubines or devotees was made a point of contention by the Jews in Muhammad's day. Ali Dashti comments:

"All the commentaries agree that verse 57 of Sura 4 (on-Nesa) was sent down after the Jews criticized Mohammad's appetite for women, alleging that he had nothing to do except to take wives" (Ali Dashti, 23 Years, pp. 120-138).

Now polygamy was practiced in the Old Testament by Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David and Solomon. In fact when David committed adultery with Bathsheeba, God said, "Did I not give you your many wives, why have you done this thing with Bathsheeba", (2 Samuel 12:7-9 paraphrased). But the Koran claims to be a new revelation from God to man and specifically limited the number of wives to four. In Sura 4:3. This means that Muhammad sinned against the very Koran he claimed to reveal.

Although Arabs gave us Algebra, modern Muslims are quite illogical regarding most aspect of their religion. If history contradicts the Koran, history is wrong! In order to keep Muhammad sinless, Muslims will actually deny the fact that Muhammad had more than four wives. Their circular reasoning is well documented by James A. Beverly, in his book "Understanding Islam". A typical private conversation with a Muslim regarding Muhammad’s many wives will go as follows:

1. The Quran condemns more than 4 wives in Q4:3.
2. Muhammad was sinless.
3. Therefore Muhammad did not have more than four wives, (Because Muhammad was sinless.)

However, the facts of history cannot be changed. Informed Muslims like Muslim scholar and statesman Ali Dashti gives the following list of the women in Muhammad's life:

Muhammad’s 22 Women:

Muhammad’s 16 Wives:

1. Khadija	2. Sawda	3. Aesha	4. Omm Salama
5. Halsa	6. Zaynab (of Jahsh)	7. Jowayriyi	8. Omm Habiba
9. Safiya	10. Maymuna (of Hareth)	11. Fatema	12. Hend
13. Asma (of Saba)	14. Zaynab (of Khozayma)	15. Habla	16. Asma (of Noman)

Muhammad’s 2 concubines/slaves:

1. Mary (the Christian)
2. Rayhana

Muhammad’s 4 devoted followers who who "gave" themselves to satisfy Muhammad's sexual desires.

1. Omm Sharik
2. Maymuna
3. Zaynab (a third one)
4. Khawla

Zaynab of Jahsh was originally Muhammad's adopted son Zaid's wife. The fact that Muhammad took her for himself has been problematic to many people, Muslims included. (God does not break His Own Word and He never changes His mind. Now read Sura 33:36-38).

(The vindicated prophet Moses taught under the Old Testament, that a minister could only marry a virgin or the widow of a minister (Leviticus 21:13-15). The vindicated prophet Jesus taught under the New Testament that an apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor or teacher can marry only a virgin in the faith -- because he is a type of Christ Who is uniting only with virgins to the Word.

Every prophet from Adam taught that any woman who has more than one living husband is an adulteress, and her subsequent husband is in adultery with her first husband as polygamy was legal only for the man -- Genesis 3:16; Romans 7:1-3).

Aesha was only eight or nine years old when Muhammad took her to his bed. According to Hadith, she was still playing with her dolls. This facet of Muhammad's sexual appetite is particularly distressing to Westerners.

While in Islamic countries an eight-or-nine-year-old girl can be given in marriage to an adult male, in the West, most people would shudder to think of an eight-or-nine-year-old girl being given in marriage to anyone. (Although it is condoned by the Jew's Talmud).

This aspect of Muhammad's personal life is something that many scholars pass over once again because they do not want to hurt the feelings of Muslims. Yet, history cannot be rewritten to avoid confronting the facts that Muhammad had unnatural desires for little girls.

Finally, Mary, the Coptic Christian, refused to marry Muhammad because she would not renounce Christianity and embrace Islam. She bravely chose to remain a slave rather than convert.

The documentation for all the women in Muhammad's harem is so vast and has been presented so many times by able scholars that only the blind reject it.

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From: Jitender Chaubey <jitender...@gmail.com>
To: desi...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:57 PM

[Rabinder Koul]

Mr. Malik; 

Your logic takes the cake. You are talking of Islamic Invasions on India, that is you are talking about past prior to even British colonial rule. And now when I gave you the example, you want to consider only the post 1947 India. How can any one show war on post 1947 India from Islamic nations who are in disarray, powerless and despondent. They can barely hold on to their Ass.

The notion of Nation state is colonial i.e Christian European notion. The Indian was a Civilization-al Rashtra / Varta, and that is not nation. Nation is a political entity, Rashtra/ Varta is a cultural entity. (Better even Dharma based entity). 

The terminology and the conceptual constructs have to internal Indian constructs, not from Arabs, not from Turks, not from Europeans, and not from Communists.

Indian tradition defines Rashtra and that is not country, Indian tradition defines Varta and Mandala. Bharta was a Mandala, all the way from Afghanistan to Kanaya Kumari and Bay of Bengal to Western borders along the coast. This description is given very early on in both the Mahaabhrata, Puraanas as well as others old texts.

This reasons you are trying give is contentless and so meaningless.

Ravindra Koul

अस्मद्रूपसमाविष्ठ: स्वात्मनात्मानिवारणे 

शिव: करोतु निजया नम: शक्त्या ततात्मने 

[Rabinder Koul]

Mr. Malik;

If you want to give reasons and rationale for the Quasims win over Raja Dahir of Sindh, then find a good acceptable rational. This BS of eeman etc  sounds good in Mosques for backward Muslims and among soft headed Hindus. But don't bring it in public it only displays backwardness of the Islamic thinking in general. 

The looter,  rapist, human trafficker Qasim was just that. The number of Indian women raped, men and women and children taken away from India for slave markets may be Islamic eeman, but  among the civilized it is called by the names I have described in this sentence. But then for Muslims the eeman has always been through such acts of Jehad, the Arab cult of Barbarism adopted by the converted Hindus. That is precisely what Islamic Pakistan did to Kaffir Women during partition. On the other hand take the counter example of both Shivaji Maraatha and the Sikh Gurus, how they protected Muslim women when they conquered Muslim reigned territory in India. Any civilized person would realize the marauding, barbarianism of uncivilized Muslims who entered India from their acts; and from the histories chronicled by the contemporary historians, including the Islamic chroniclers.

The Indian Kings did loose wars in the long run, as did Muslim armies against Maraathas, and the Sikhs later. Had it not been European colonizers who came and defeated both the left over Islamic Kings and the later Marathas. They also annihilated eemani Khalifa of Turkey as well as Saudi Arabia, Egypt etc etc. Losses in wars have nothing to do with the eeman. It has to do with strategy, planning, land armament.  Even after 400 years of European rise in power, Islamic countries are in dire straits.  

In the History of Indian mathematics published by Oxford University, the author says that by the 12th century AD, Indian intellectual activity had shifted from North to south. (Guess why 1200 AD? And in South they produced great works till about 14th 15th century. And that is when same marauding back word barbarians of Islam reached South. Kashmir flourished in intellectual accomplishments untill 10th century, after that it has been down hill. Guess why, same barbarians started taking hold of that Kashmir. It does not matter where you see it in India, North, South, east or west it is the same story.

Persia the civilization was finished in 17 years, completely converted to Islam and it has been only down hill after that.  Persia took your eeman and in return got desecration and annihilation of its civilization.

may be you should keep this adopted eeman and not come to discuss with Hindus. You will have no chance with eeman.

Ravindra Koul

अस्मद्रूपसमाविष्ठ: स्वात्मनात्मानिवारणे 

शिव: करोतु निजया नम: शक्त्या ततात्मने 

[Trishool]

Mr. Malik;

If you want to give reasons and rationale for the Quasims win over Raja Dahir of Sindh, then find a good acceptable rational. This BS of eeman etc  sounds good in Mosques for backward Muslims and among soft headed Hindus. But don't bring it in public it only displays backwardness of the Islamic thinking in general. 

Please read history of Sindh, and rape history of  Mohammad bin Qasim, any Sindhi Muslim will tell you the truth, of cruel, rapist, tyrant, Qasim.!

Also read History of Muslim tyrant, Aurangzeb. 

Trishool 

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From: Rabinder Koul <arr...@ameritech.net>
To: desi...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Rabinder Koul <arr...@ameritech.net>; dirghar...@gmail.com

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:51 PM