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Read your  Sikh history and histtory of Maharaja Ranjit Singh first. YOUR THINKING & VAKLUES ARE PERVERT. YOU DENY GURUS who were Hindus (NON KESJDHARIS) AND THOSE WITH MAHARAJA RANJIT SINGH WERE HINDUS. He and his children were BETRAYED BY LIKE OF YOU. While you workl for Pakistan they did for British. READ GURU BANI & GURU GRANTH SAHIB.
 
I used to travel in Mideast in 80's. MUSLIMS YOU USED TO SAY ' Sikhon se 1947 ka badla lena hai'; PAR TUM NAHIN SAMAJH SAKTE.

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Dr Awatar Singh Sekhon (Machaki) writes:

O you Hindu (Chor, Dakku, dacoit, Lutere) s****
Davinder Thakur & Likewise Brahmins-Hindus-turbaned Brahmins-Hindus,

After all you have played the card of your Brahmins-Hindus game, conceived around 1940s, of the "Sikhs Raj, the First Sovereign and Secular nation of South Asia, of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, 1799 to 14th March, 1849." This Sovereign and Secular Sikh Raj had been the Super Military Firepower of the world as acknowledged by the British Army Brass generals during their visit to the Sovereign Sikh Raj of Maharaja Ranjit Singh. This is what you, the Brahmins-Hindus-turbaned Brahmins-Hindus and all Sikh military and other armed personnel of the Brahmins-Hindus forces, joined in the afternoon of 15th August, 1947 or thereafter have to learn; but these bigots and utopians are virtually devoid of this aspect of the Sikh History. That is, the 'annexation' of the Sikh Raj of Maharaja Ranjit Singh tookplace on 29th March, 1849. However, the Sikhs' Struggle for their sovereignty, Independence and Political power began right after they lost to the British Empire's forces because of the betrayals of Hindu-dogras on 14th March, 1849. The 'annexed' Sikh Raj of Maharaja Ranjit Singh became a part of the British Empire on 29th March, 1849, for the administration purpose only, as announced by Lord Dalhousie, from Radio station of Rawalpindi (now the twin city of Rawalpindi and Islamabad of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan). 

Let me tell you for your shallow knowledge of the Sikh History from the Sikh point of view that the word 'India' did not exist on the world map, any dictionary and encyclopedia of the English language up until 29th March, 1849. None of you, the Brahmins and Hindus had been 'Sovereign and Secular' until 15th August, 1947. The Hindus-Brahmins had been 'subservient' to the Afghans, Mughals, Sikhs, British, Portuguese, etc., for more than 3500 years, up until the late morning hours of 15th August, 1947.  The Sikhs and Muslims of the 'Sikh Raj' fought for their 'Sovereignty and Secular' nation until the political power of the 'British East Indian Trading  Company, which landed at the  Southern tip of the sub-continent, later known as British East India Company and then the British India Empire', since 14th March, 1849. The 'Sikh Raj of Maharaja Ranjit Singh had been 'Sovereign and Secular nation and became the part of the British Empire after its 'annexation' only to the British Empire' and have been "Struggling to be Sovereign and Independent. This battle for the Sikhs' Sovereignty and Independence has been going on, without any interruption, ever since 14th March, 1849 under the leadership of Guru Granth Sahib and the 'Sikh Traditions'. As such, the PUNJAB alias the Sikh Raj of Ranjit Singh had nothing to do with the Mughal Empire and most of the Hindu and Muslim Kingdoms that were conquered or merged into the 'British India Empire'. Unfortunately, the 'Sovereignty' had been given like the 'begging business' on the platter by the British agent of the British Empire, to the Brahmins-Hindus-Baniyas. 

What you talk about the Sikh Raj alias PUNJAB of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, the First Sovereign and Secular Nation of South Asia remained 'annexed' even before the Brahmins-Hindus-Baniyas becameon 15th August, 1947, before the political power had been transferred to the 'unelected' Brahmins-Hindus-Baniya leaders by the British Empire's agent. On the transfer of political power on 15th August, 1947, the British India Empire became what it stands to day as a colonial, oppressor, expansionist state 'India'. Right after a few moments after receiving the political power from the British agent, the Brahmins-Hindus-Baniyas 'robbed/swallowed' the Sikhs' PUNJAB, Sikh Raj, although its status had been 'annexed' to the British Empire and not the British India Empire. Seven-week later, on 10th October, 1947 the 'trio' Brahmin-Hindus-Baniya state issued a 'circular', under the signature of JL Nehru, CL Trivedi-VB Pant that "Sikhs are a lawless community, dangerous to the law-abiding Hindus (Brahmins-Hindus-Baniyas), and be dealt firmly by the law-enforcing agencies."

Irrespective of what you, the Brahmins-Hindus-turbaned Brahmins, write about the Sikhs' History, it has nothing but the distorted one and heavily saffaronized by Brahmins-Hindus-turbaned Brahmins institutions working under the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) and the University Grant Commission. The latter controls the finances and educational syllabus of the universities as hired by pseudo-experts (all Brahmins-Hindus), so to speak.

Further, let me tell you that the Sikhs of PUNJAB, who have not accepted the Indian Constitution 1950, in its draft and final forms. The Sikhs' elected representatives have 'REJECTED and turned down' the Indian Constitution 1950 four times. Sirdar Kapur Singh, a Cambridge university graduate, MLA, MP and the National Professor of Sikhism said in the Lok Sabha, the Brahmins-Hindus parliament, that "On behalf of his Sikh Nation, he 'rejected' the Indian Constitution, which stinks badly like currate's eggs, devoid of nutritional values and unfit for the human consumption." As such, the Sikh Nation, PUNJAB of 15th August, 1947 has not signed/accepted/endorsed the Indian Constitution of 1950; although the vicious policies of the Brahmins-Hindus-Baniya have 'Divided/broken' the Sikhs PUNJAB of 15th August, 1947 into three pieces, i. e., PUNJAB, Himachal Pradesh and Haryana, leaving Chandigarh and PUNJABI, the language of the Sikhs only aside. The Brahmins-Hindus-Baniyas-Aryasamajists 'Disowned' their mother (Punjabi language) in the census of 1960s.

To sum up, the Sikhs' struggle for Sovereignty has been going on since 14th March, 1849 and will continue until their Sikh Nation, PUNJAB of 15th August, 1947 proclaims Sovereignty, Independence and political power. The Sovereignty is the 'Birthright of Sikhs' and they will continue to fight for it until their Sikh Nation, PUNJAB of 15th August, 1947, is Sovereign. The Sikhs will 'honour' all international and political agreements with their Brothers and sisters of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. I ask my brothers and sisters, the armed forces and related services of Pakistan to be 'STRONG' to defeat the 'Brahmins-Hindus-turbaned Brahmins-Hindus' and other enemies of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. I am of the view that other nations seeking and struggling for their Sovereignty and Political power will defeat the Brahmins-Hindus-Baniyas, because Indian demo[n]cracy is NOT one nation. India is a nation of Nations. These nations have to control their own Sovereignty and future of their non-Brahmins-Hindus present and future generations. Amen!    

Please do not look for any further exchange of information/views, as the Brahmins-Hindus-Baniyas are all 'close-minded' creatures.

May God bless you.

Awatar Singh Sekhon (Machaki)
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> Baloch leader seeks UN-overseen vote
>  
> Islamabad May 6
>  
> A key nationalist leader in Pakistan's troubled Balochistan
> province has demanded a UN-supervised referendum in the province
> to see if the Baloch people want to live with Pakistan or not.
>  
> "A referendum under the supervision of the United Nations should
> be carried out in Balochistan to ascertain whether Baloch people
> want to live with Pakistan or not. Nawabzada Jamil Bugti, the
> son of late Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti, said Talking to reporters in
> Quetta , Mr Bugti said that parliamentary politics has
> completely failed in Balochistan.
>  
> Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti was killed in a military operation during
> the military regime of Pervez Musharraf.
>  
>  
> Habib Sahib, Whatever happens to Balochistan, please do not
> forget to return the old Sultanat of Maharaja Ranjit Singh Ji
> to our Sikh brothers which you are occupying at the present
> time. Regards Devinder Thakur
>
>
> >________________________________
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> >Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012, 6:43
> >Subject: [media_monitor5] THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT MUST RETURN
> KHALISTAN TO ITS ORIGINAL OWNERS, THE SIKHS: HABIB YOUSAFZAI,
> KASHMIR DIASPORA ALLIANCE [3 Attachments]
> > 
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >[Attachment(s) from Habib Yousafzai included below] 
> >THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT MUST RETURN KHALISTAN TO ITS ORIGINAL
> OWNERS, THE SIKHS: HABIB YOUSAFZAI, KASHMIR DIASPORA ALLIANCE
> >
> >
> >Within eight days, a second event took place with over 100,000
> Sikhs and people of all walks of life including children, women
> and elderly attending the annual Khalsa Day Parade on Sunday,
> May 06, 2012 in Toronto, Canada. The procession began at 1PM at
> 7280 Airport Road and concluded at 6 PM at the Sikh Spiritual
> Centre located on 9 Carrier Drive. The Tenth Guru (also known
> Tenth Master) Janab Guru Gobind Singh Sahib revealed Khalsa by
> baptizing the Sikhs beginning with the PANJPIARE (literally the
> five beloved ones), a name given to the five Sikhs; Sardar Daya
> Singh, Sardar Dharam Singh, Sardar Himmat Singh, Sardar Mukham
> Singh and Sardar Sahib Singh. They were designated so by Janab
> Guru Gobind Singh Sahib at the historic divan at Anandpur Sahib
> on 30 March 1699 which formed the nucleus of the Khalsa as the
> first batch to receive Khanda Di Pahul by his hands, i.e. rites
> of the two-edged sword. Janab Guru Gobind Singh Sahab freed the
> nation from
>  slavery of the caste system. After his demise, the Sikhs
> established an independent Sikh State from 1708 to 1849,
> eventually being annexed by the British.
> >
> >
> >Unlike the previous Khalsa Day Parades, today’s event had an
> entirely different outlook. More than ten floats had pictures of
> martyrs of the Sikhs such as Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawala
> (Shaheed), Sardar Balwant Singh Rajoana, and Sardar Sobegh
> Singh, and many others, along with slogans of Khalistan
> Zindabad. People all around were chanting “Indian government
> leaves Khalistan” and “we will liberate Khalistan.”
> >
> >
> >At the time of partition August 15, 1947, when India received
> freedom from the British on a platter it should not have merged
> the Sikh Republic of Khalistan by default without any formal
> plebiscite or referendum.
> >
> >
> >A petition was circulated which highlighting the discovery of
> new evidence which contains mass graves, ruined villages, burnt
> Gurudwaras (Sikh Temples) and other traces of Sikh population
> annihilated during November 1984. Further, February 2011 led to
> the discovery of mass graves of Sikhs killed during November
> 1984 in Hondh-Chillar village in the State of Haryana. This
> latest evidence shows that Sikhs were subjected to intentional,
> deliberate and planned attacks during November 1984 by the
> Indian government. After the discovery of mass graves on
> February 15, 2011, similar evidence of attacks on the Sikh
> population during November 1984 were also unearthed in several
> other states in India. In West Bengal, Uttar Pradesh, and Jammu
> and Kashmir and throughout India, new evidence consisting of
> forlorn debris and human remains at newly discovered genocidal
> sites along with the official records of the Indian Government
> are the most specific, irrefutable and
>  convincing evidence that the killing of Sikhs during
> November 1984 was a genocide.
> >
> >
> >The Office of High Commissioner for Human Rights Commission/Sub-
> Commission Team (1503 Procedure) CH-1211 Geneva 10, Switzerland,
> must take sue motto action by investigating the systematic,
> intentional and deliberate killing of Sikhs carried out
> throughout India during the first week of November 1984. The
> genocide has been effectively covered up by successive Indian
> Governments as “anti-Sikh riots” confined to Delhi alone. Thus
> the petition seeks to recognize and declare the systematic,
> intentional and deliberate massacre of Sikhs during November
> 1984 as genocide as per Article 2 of the U.N. Convention on Genocide. 
> >
> >Instead of returning Khalistan to the Sikhs, it has been
> committing genocide on innocent Sikhs, as over 260,000 Sikhs
> have been mercilessly killed by the Indian forces. It appears
> that the Indian government will never offer any concessions to
> the Sikhs.
> >
> >
> >The only solution for Punjab is the establishment of the Sikh
> Republic of Khalistan in order to free the Sikhs from becoming
> victims of the ‘highly politicized judicial’ system of the so
> called largest Democracy. The Sikhs have been struggling for
> sovereignty, independence, and political power since March 14,
> 1849. Only by following the teachings of the Guru Granth Sahib
> and the Sikh traditions will the Sikh nation be able to
> establish true freedom and break free from the chains of slavery
> of the Indian government.  
> >     
> >
> >  
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Dr Awatar Singh Sekhon (Machaki) writes:

O you Hindu (Chor, Dakku, dacoit, Lutere) s****
 Davinder Thakur & Likewise Brahmins-Hindus-turbaned Brahmins-Hindus, 


THIS FOOLISH , SOLD SIKH, SEKHON, FORGETS THAT HE IS A SON OF HINDU TOO.! 

Dr. SEKHON, IS SOLD TO PAKISTANI RETIRED BRIGADIER, USMAN KHALID. HE HAS ALSO AGREED THAT HE HAS FRIENDSHIP AND ASSOCIATION WITH HATE MONGER, PAKISTANI BRIGADIER, WHO OPERATES, ANTI INDIA PROPAGANDA, MISSION, FROM ENGLAND, 

THIS IGNORANT SIKH, SEKHON, HAS NOTHING IN COMMON, WITH HONARABLE INDIAN SIKH COMMUNITY. HE IS DANCING AT THE TUNES OF PAKISTAN.

I HAVE SAVED SOME OF HIS COMMUNICATION. 

Tr. 

  


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Mr Lal Gehi <lalh...@yahoo.com

I have to commend your knowledge, acquired with primary aim of ‘brain washing’ from the syllabus approved by the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) of the Brahmins autocracy/Zamhooriat/Zulamhooriat or the ‘Democracy of Propaganda, Hatred and Deceits’ alias the alleged Indian democracy, taught in the primary, middle, junior High, High Schools, colleges and universities. Indeed, your master, the stupid RAW and/or the New Delhi administration, headed by a ‘Dastaardhai/turbaned Hindu in 
The Sikh Identity, the rapist of the democracy in the Brahmins autocracy because he is ‘not’ an elected Member of Parliament, just to serve the agenda of his masters, the Brahmins and pro-Brahmins.
You need to go back for enrollment in a school of higher learning to study again the History of the Sikhs from the Sikh point of view, because if you re-read the ‘distorted’ academic literature by your RAW masters or otherwise, it would be wastage of your time and you will learn nothing.
You said ‘all Hindus ‘
are Sikhs. What a distortion of the facts of the academic literature!The Hindus/Brahmins (all) cannot and will not be the followers of the Sikh religion and its ten masters, Sahib Guru Baba Nanak to Guru Gobind Singh ji, their teachings inscribed in the Sikhs’ Holy Scripture, Guru Granth Sahib ji. Their message to us, the Sikhs, was ‘Oneness of God, Omni presence of the God, God in beyond birth and death’. Guru Nanak Sahib teachings: “Truth is high, still higher is the Truthul living,” Aval Allah Noor Oopaya Kudarat ke Sab Bande, Ik Noor te Sab Jag Upjaya Kaun Bhale ko Mande,” “Mathe Tikka Terrh Dhotti Kahai Hath Chhurri Jagat Kasai (means the Brahmin, the elite Hindu, is the ‘Butcher of he world’), suffice to mention here out of 1,430 pages of Guru Granth Sahib).
 
Whereas, the Hindus, 
unlike the Sikhs, are the worshippers of plants, animals like rats, elephant-headed God known as Ganesh, the son of Shiv and Shiva (parvati), snakes, more than thirty thousand gods and goddesses to say the least. Come up with a single example of any of the Sikh Gurus (Guru Baba Nanak Sahib to Guru Gobind Singh ji), who drifted from his path of preaching ‘Oneness’ of the God. Should you find yourself to unable to answer this question, you will leave no option for me but to call you a hypocrite, an agent or stooge of the RAW and the RAW’S master, the New Delhi administration of the Brahmins and pro-Brahmins.

Indeed, the Sikhs have never been ‘subservient’ to anyone as the Hindus had been for more than 2000 years to the Afghans, MughalsSikhs, British, Portuguese, and othersuntil 15th August, 1947. The fate of the Sikhs’ “Struggle for Sovereignty, Independence and Political Power, by peaceful means would have much different had Master Tara Sinh,a convert Sikh from a Brahmin family, had not back-stabbed the ‘uncrowned’ king of the Sikhs, Baba Kharak Singh, an Akali leader, and the leader of a procession of 500,000 Sikhs, Muslims, Hindus, Christian and the citizen of the Sikh Raj, Punjab of the Sikh monarch, Ranjit Singh, 1799 to 14th March, 1849. This struggle of the Sikhs still continues, by peaceful means, since 14th March, 1849.

Your calling me a traitor, an associate of 
the ISI of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and my association with Janab Usman Khalid, PresidentLondon Institute of South Asia does not bother me at all, because you, the Hindus and followers of the Brahmins, have not learnt to respect any gentlemen, other than the Hindus/BrahminsHow could it be expected from you and why one should have any expectation from a person who belongs to ‘intruders into the land called now India? Moreover, you, the Brahmins and Hindus had been ‘subservient’ to the brave people like the followers of Islam and Guru Granth Sahib, respectively, in PUNJAB, the Sikh Raj of monarch Ranjit Singh’s period. Unfortunately, you would not accept the facts of the South Asian history.

You have no knowledge whatsoever of the Sikhs’ struggle and the period of the Sikh Gurus in PUNJAB. 
Your communist brothers call Punjab as ‘Guruan-di-dharti’ and the Punjab ‘Jionda hai Guruan de naon te’. There were no Hindus who fought for the Sikh Gurus, played any role in the Sikh Gurus’ fight against the injustices and human rights violations by the rulers of the their time, when compared with the followers of Islam.Consider the names of Gani Khan, Nabi Khan, Nihang Khan, Mumtaz Bibi, Pir Budhoo Shah, sons of the Pir Sahib, more than 400 followers (Mureeds) of Pir Budhoo Shah, Nawab of Maler Kotla, and many, many more. Who were they? Answer is they all were the followers of the Islam; as against Suchanand, Lal Sinh, dogras, Gangu alias Gangadhar Kaul, and other Brahmins and pro-Brahmins (JL Nehru, Chandulal Trivedi, VB Patel, GL Nanda, Buta Sinh, Rajiv Gandhi, Indira Gandhi, Zail Sinh, Fateh Sinh, Prakash (Darkness/Hanera) Sinh Badal, his “joe boys and joe-girls”, the Badal clan, Puran Sinh of Luv and Kush, Kirpal Sinh, etc., the traitors of the Sikh Gurus Sahibaans and the House of Baba Guru Nanak Sahib.

The Sikh Gurus fought for the preservation of human, religious and righteousness, regardless of the religion, gender, etcThe Hindus, on the other hand could not protect their female folks (children, sisters, young daughters, mothers, etc.) from the intruders, who took them along to the middle east and as far away as Libiya and other Arabian countries. These were none else but the Sikhs, who went after the intruders and brought the Hindu females back snatched by the abductors, i. e., the non-Hindus of the Arabian countries. When they were brought back, the bigots and gutless Hindus refused to take their females back. Just consider what happened to the abducted Hindu females? Look in the history and find the answer by yourself.

Why did you not mention the days of “Operation Bluestar” of June, 1984? These were the days when the Sikhs had been kept in the “barbed-wired Concentration Campsthrough out the Punjab, Khalistan.” Where were you the so-called ‘sympathizer’ of the SikhsDid you ever utter a word on the ‘undeclared’ war by the armed forces of the Brahmins autocracy? There have been at least/nearly 6,000 Sikh prisoners in theBrahmins autocracy’s jails, since “Operation Bluestar” of June, 1984, in the Indian jails. Have you, the crocodile-tears shedder, ever raised your voice even once since 1984.

Note it, I would respond to your most agitated matterrelating to my association and relationship to President Usman Khalid, London Institute of South Asia.

Let me tell you that, we the Sikhs, have reached to a point of no return as far as the Brahmins, pro-Brahmins, the occupants of the Sikhs’ holy, historical land and the Sikh institutions are concernedsince 15th August, 1947. There is a saying in the western world for the unreliable and deceitful people: “They speak from both sides of their mouth.” Here the Brahmins, pro-Brahmins, Dastaardhari/turbaned Hindus in The Sikh Identity speak from ‘multi-sites’ of their mouth. You, the Hindu and Brahmins will ‘never’ be trusted.

Wake up to the reality of the humanity!

May the Khudawand Bakhshinda shower His blessings on you.

Awatar Singh Sekhon (Machaki), Ph D, FIBA, RM (CCM)
Associate Professor (Retired), Medical Microbiology and Immunology
Director (Former), National Centre for Mycotoic  Diseases CANADA
Managing Editor and Acting Editor in Chief
International Journal of Sikh Affairs ISSN 1481-5435
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On 8/20/08 10:50 PM, "Lal Gehi" <lalh...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Listen you traitor, Pakistani puppet, Bimaar Sikh, Sekon,

I know very well that you associate with ISI agent, Pakistani retired bbrigadier, Usman Khalid, in England.

You call your self Sikh, but you don't act like a Sikh. You act 
like a selfish, self centered, prejudice, politician, against the 
teachings of great 
Sikh Gurus. !!

Great Sikh Gurus were protectors of Hindus, and they scarified their lives by protecting weaker Hindus, for right and righteous cause. They did not die for selfish gains like you.!

You are insulting your own Hindu ancestors, and great Gurus,
by calling them chor. !! 

 
 
Great Sikh Gurus fought against injustice of Muslims,and protected Hindus, because all Sikhs are sons of brave Hindus, who refused to surrender to Muslim injustice and 
religious prejudice. Please read your Sikh history, if you have forgotten.  

For Your information, there is no, Mohammad Singh, orAli
Singh among Sikhs

Guru Arjan Dev, Guru Ramdas, Guru Harkishin Rai, Guru Gobind singh, are all Hindu names. I as Hindu, salute my brave Sikh brothers. 

Before Guru Gobind Singh ji, initiated and called all Sikhs as 
SINGHS, even his name was Guru Gobind Rai,
 which is a Hindu name. 

Don't forget, your ISI Pakistani agent, friend, his ancestors have murdered many great Sikhs, including brave sons of 
Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji, because they refused to accept
 Islam.!!

Remember the verses of Guru Granth sahib ji :

MITTI MUSALMAN DI, PEREEN PAEE KUMBHAR
DHAR PANDE ITTAN KIYAN, DARNDI KARE PUKAR

When Guru Gobind Singh ji said : 

SAWA LAKH SEY EK LARAOON, 
TABHI, GOBINDSINGH NAAM SADAOON 

He meant to fight with might of cruelMuslim Moguls, which are your friends, now, for selfish reasons.

I agree that Sikh is a brave Sikh, in that sense, everyHindu is also a Sikh, because Sikhs are sons of those brave Hinduswho refused to bow before Muslim Mogul religious prejudice, tyranny and injustice. 

Lal Gehi
 


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PLEASE EVERY ONE READ ------ the true history of sikhism ----- they are betraying hinduus ----- instead of calling them self
 [ sikhs ]''TRAITORS'' they are saying ''guru gobind singh / rai sets rules for sikhs that is sikhism  ----

SIKH SCHOOLS ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE TEACHING HATE AGAINST HINDUUS AS MUSLIMS MADARASSAAS ARE ------ sikhs are teaching all wrong history of india to coming generation that "ALL THE KILLING AND TORTURES ARE DONE BY DEHALI DARBAAR" 
 देहली दरबार  

MEANS BY HINDUUS  NOT BY  MUSLIMS -----
please read ----- the true history of creation of SIKHS -----

SIKHISM

PLEASE FORWARD AND SEND COMMENTS ----- 
       
 PLEASE NOTE-------- ---HINDII WORDS ARE WRITTEN IN ENGLISH ACCORDING TO
 
ONE OF THE HINDII-SANSKRI`T- ENGLISH - GUIDES to write HINDII-SANSKRI`T words in ENGLISH--- 

अ = a , आ = aa ,  इ = i ,  ई = ii ,  उ = u ,  ऊ = uu ,  ऋ = ri`  (     रि = ri ,   री = rii  ,  ऋ =ri` )    
   ए = e  ,  ऐ =  ee  or  ai ,  ओ = o ,  औ =  oo  or  au ,  अं = an ,  अ:  =  a:      ]

 क = k  ,   ख  = kh ,   ग = g ,    घ = gh  ङ =n.  |||    च  = ch ,  छ = chh    ज = j ,    झ  =  jh ,  ञ = n`
ट  = t.  ,   ठ = th. ,   ड = d.  ,    ढ = dh.  ,  ण = n~|||  त = t ,   थ  = th ,  द  = d  ,  ध = dh ,   न = n

प = p ,   फ = ph ,   ब  = b ,   भ = bh ,    म = m  |||  य = y ,    र = r  ,    ल = l ,    व = v  ,   श = sh  

 ष = sh.   स  = s ,   ह = h  ,   क्ष = ksh   ,   त्र = tr   |||   ज्ञ  = jn.. ,  श्र = shr ,   ड़ = ad ,  ढ़ = ad.  ]  }

PLEASE NOTE :--हिंदी should be Hindii not Hindi which is = हिंदि  |||  हिंदू  should be Hinduu not Hindu which is =  हिंदु-------
 
  

IF TENTH GURU GOVIND RAI { SINGH } STARTED SIKH RELIGION THEN THE FIRST NINE GURUS WERE DEAD BEFORE THE SIKH RELIGION WAS STARTED. 
{ THE NINE GURUS } DID NOT KNOW ABOUT SIKH RELIGION AND ABOUT 5 K'S, THEN HOW COULD BE  THEY ARE  SIKHS . THEY WERE HINDUU --- the tradition is when one guru dies then other guru is chosen --- 

About 900 years ago the Muslims invaded India. Their aim was to conquer , convert ,destroy and loot BHAARAT. They attacked Bhaarat 16 times and were defeated. The 17th time they were successful. At that time Muslims burned many Hinduu   temples and erected mosques on top of the burned out temples  and on other locations also. They burned Hinduu schools and started their own Islaamic schools. They burnt all most all Hinduu institutions and built Islaamic institutions. They killed millions and millions of Hinduus. Muslims killed who wouldn't accept Islaam and millions of Hinduus who were afraid of being killed accepted Islaam. The rest of the Hinduus were afraid  that they would be finished off by the Muslims' cruel ways of conversion, subjugation, persecution, mutilation , coercion and a VERY HIGH JAZIA TAX  ABOUT 90 % of the income only on HINDUUS etc.etc.
 
***[ PLEASE NOTE--WE ALWAYS CALLED OUR COUNTY BHAARAT  भारत  AND  OURSELVES BHAARTIY भारतीय. WHEN MUSLIMS INVADED AND RULED BHAARAT THEY CALLED OUR COUNTRY HINDUSTHAAN AND US HINDUUS AND WHEN BRITISH CAME TO OUR COUNTRY AND RULED US THEY CALLED OUR COUNTRY INDIA AND US INDIANS BUT WE ARE NOT HINDUUS OR INDIANS WE ARE BHAARTIYS भारतीय AND OUR COUNTRY IS BHAARAT OR BHAARAT VARSH WHICH MEANS  BHAA + RAT  =  BHAARAT  , BHAA  भा    means splendor and RAT   रत  means BUSY, ABSORBED means BHAARATIYS ARE ABSORBED AND BUSY IN MAKING THE COUNTRY SPLANDED ] ***
 
 As a result, BHAARTIYS started to think about how to protect themselves FROM MUSLIMS. The BHAARTIYS thought of 3 ways :---- 
A ) - a ) to fight the Muslim military by creating BHAARTIY  military to avoid persecution by the Muslims 
     -  B ) to worship formless  THE SUPREME POWER God  / Goddess like Muslims to avoid persecution by the Muslims. 
     -   C ) to change BHAARTIYS -Greetings to Namaste  ( नमस्ते ) , which means---I respect you--- the word meaning is--- I bow to you , to avoid persecution by the Muslims instead of using BHAARTIY भारतीय GREETINGS LIKE---जैय अम्बे,जैय दुर्गे , जैय सीता राम ' जैय रुक्मणि कृष्ण etc. etc. 
A) .  Creating  BHAARTIY military ----
 
 -After suffering about five hundred years by MUSLIMS then about 400 years ago, BHAARTIYS  established a military force to protect themselves from the ruling Muslims and their cruel ways of conversion because  Muslims were persecuting, mutilating, taxing heavily and coercing  BHAARATIYS into accepting Islaam.

 ---  BHAARTIY Military:--- -

 a ) The BHAARTIYS  made a rule that the first born son in each  BHAARTIYS -  family was obligated to join the  BHAARTIY military to protect the BHAARTIY community. Other sons could join as well, but the first born must.   
 b ) The  BHAARTIY military was not paid but was looked after very well with a great respect by the whole BHAARTIY  community - THE HINDUUS
 c ) To distinguish BHAARTIY  military form Muslims military was required to fulfil the following requirements :--

1--. They must grow their hair (Kesh)(  केस ) long so BHAARTIY military  wouldn't get confused with Muslim military
 2-- They must encase their hair in turbans (pagdi) ( पगडी ) so that their hair wouldn't fall in their eyes while  fighting; 
3--.They always must have a comb (Kanghaa ) ( कन्घा) on them so that when they had a spare moment they could comb out their long hair. In hot Indian climate it was necessary to comb their hair frequently to avoid lice;
4--. They must wear  under wears (Kachchhaa and banyaan) (  कच्चा-बनयान ), short  top and bottom so that if they were attacked while bathing they would not be caught naked, and could run to protect the community immediately .
5--. All these fighters must wear an iron bracelet (Kara) ( कडा ), to remind them to be strong like iron;
6--. They must carry a sword (Kirpaan) (किरपान ) at all the times so that they are always ready to fight even when they were having breakfast or lunch or dinner etc.etc.if attacked by Muslims.      
7--  All these fighters were given the last name Sinh  ( सिंह ) which means tiger to remind them to fight like a tiger. As the time passed the word '' Sinh  ( सिंह ) '' evolved as SINGH सिंघ and ''siikh''  सीख evolved as ''sikh''  सिख .
 With all these conditions THE BHAARTIY  MILITARY WAS CREATED , with the name SIIKH सीख means--to  learn how to protect yourself and the COMMUNITY AT LARGE against MUSLIM - RULERS and MUSLIM - COMMUNITY. As the time passed the word  सीख Siikh evolved as सिख Sikh and  the word '' Sinh  ( सिंह ) '' evolved as SINGH सिंघ.  SO SIKH WAS  BHAARTIY MILITARY NOT A SIKH RELIGION AS PEOPLE THINK OF IT TODAY.  
 All ten Gurus ( गुरु  ) of   BHAARTIY MILITARY were HINDUUS NOT SIKHS--  and the five Pyaaraas (  प्यारे ) chosen by the tenth guru Govind Singh were also Hinduus because they were born before  Sikh Religion was formed by the tenth guru Govind Singh and the tenth guru Govind Rai was also born before he himself formed SIKH RELIGION therefore he was born  HINDUU . 
The 9  gurus were commander-in- chief of this Hinduu military in succession except Guru Nanak,who was a spiritual guru.
 
 At that time for example:---  if a BHAARTIY  Family had 4 boys, the oldest son had  to go to BHAARTIY  military which would be called Siikh because of  HINDUU MILITARY--which  means--to  learn how to protect yourself and the HINDUU COMMUNITY AT LARGE against MUSLIM - RULERS  and MUSLIM - COMMUNITY.   but he is Hinduu by religion --.  If all four boys would join the BHAARTIY - military then all four would be called Siikhs means
  BHAARTIY military  but they are Hinduus by religion . If only the first boy join the BHAARTIY-military then he would be called Siikh the other three would not be called Siikh BUT HINDUUS.This is the reason in the same family some members are Hinduu-Siikhs and some are Hinduus. The whole BHAARTIY - COMMUNITY is called   with two names--- 1 . KES - DHAARII - HINDUUS  केस - धारी - हिन्दू and 
2 .  Hinduus  हिन्दू  . But every one is HINDUU----- KES  DHAARII HINDUUS केस - धारी - हिन्दू   AND  HINDUUS  हिन्दू
In time, the word Sinh evolved into Singh and the Hinduu military evolved into Sikh religion  known as Sikhism and  their 7 conditions evolved into 5 Ks.--- THE SIKH SYMBOLS -----
1 .   Kesh -  केस,
 2 .  Kanghaa - कन्घा ,
 3 . Kachchhaa and banyaan   कच्चा-बनयान , 
 4 .  Kara -कडा  ,
 5 .  Kirpaan -किरपान --- THESE 5 Ks of SIKHS  DO NOT INCLUDE ---
 1 .  pagadi पगडी and 
  2 . the last name  SINGH सिंघ 
  BUT ACCORDING TO HINDUUS 7 THINGS WERE REQUERED BY BHAARTIY MILLITARY NOT JUST FIVE K' S WHICH SIKHS ARE SAYING THESE DAYS THOUGH ALL SIKHS WEAR "PAGDI" AND HAVE LAST NAME "SINGH" ALSO ------

When BHAARTIY military was fighting with Muslims to protect the community then only these 7 conditions or 5 k's were needed, not now. Now to keep these 7 conditions or 5 k's  is just a ritual and nothing else. 
Sikhism was never a religion. It was the BHAARTIY military.

300 years ago British Christians came to India. They came as traders and were treated as guests by BHAARTIY people = HINDUUS. Secretly BRITISHERS were building their own military force to take over India and they were getting  help from Great Britain to do so, and they succeeded. The British Christians found it difficult to control both  BHAARTIY = HINDUUS and Muslims because BHAARTIY - military the SIKHS was very WELL TRAINED and strong . The British bribed the  BHAARTIY military - the Sikhs  by paying salaries to fight for them , to control  BHAARTIY and Muslims so that British can rule India.BHAARTIY military was not paid by the BHAARTIYcommunity but all their needs were met by the BHAARTIYcommunity. Many Sikhs ( BHAARTIY- military ) joined the British military and betrayed Hinduus BECAUSE OF the  SALARY paid  BY THE BRITISH TO SIKHS .                  
 
 The British Christians took over India. They made BHAARTIY and Muslims to fight all the times to make them weak  so that British can  rule  BHAARAT forever. Their policy was to divide and rule. In 1947 the British were kicked out from BHAARAT and BHAARAT became INDEPENDENT. Before leaving BHAARAT , the British played two dirty tricks  .They divided BHAARAT---as  BHAARAT and PAAKISTHAAN . PAKISTHAAN was given to Muslims which creates lots of problems for BHAARAT---as  Islamic-terrorists- attacks-- -so that BHAARAT could not progress. The other trick  the British played was they gave BHAARAT in the hands of Very - weak -BHAARATIYS and to ANTI- BHAARAT people so that BHAARAT could not progress.                 
 
When Muslims got Paakisthaan in 1947 then the Sikhs thought why not us also get some land for ourselves and since then the Sikhs started demanding--- THE SIKH-HOME-LAND- - KHALISTHAAN AND STARTED DECLARING THEY ARE NOT HINDUUS BUT SIKHS . SIKHS ARE GETTING LOT OF HELP FROM PAAKISTHAAN AND SOME OTHER COUNTRIES ALSO TO DO SO . 
PLEASE THINK OVER
 AS AN EXAMPLE-----
i) If the Canadian military says - " We have suffered so much to save Canada therefore we want a separate state for ourselves and we want to wear military uniform all the time and our children will wear the military uniform also because it is our religion now and we are not "CHRISTIANS " AND NOW ON WE ARE NOT CANADIAN MILLITARY BUT WE ARE NOW "SO < SO"- then what will you say to them and what will you do , and what will Canadian - Govt. will do ? Would you give them a  separate-state ?

ii) Quebec wants to separate from Canada. Will Canada  give them a separate-state ?

iii) Ireland wants to separate from England . Will England give them a separate-state ?

iv) Sikhs want to separate from BHAARAT.Should BHAARAT  give them a separate-state ?
 
 REMEMBER---- All Sikhs were the oldest sons of the Hinduu community to protect the  community. THIS IS THE REASON MANY MANY HINDUU LAST NAMES ARE THE SAME IN SIKHS AND HINDUUS.

PLEASE  NOTE --- INSTEAD OF SAYING'' WE SIKHS BETRAID HINDUUS'' THESE SIKHS SAY --- GURU GOVIND SINGH JII  STARTED SIKH RELIGION AND MANY GOBBLING  LIES SIKHS ARE SAYING  AND TEACHING THE WRONG HISTORY TO THE COMING GENERATIONS BY CHANGING THE SIKH HISTORY ------                                                                                           
 
3. a ) FORMATION OF AARYAA SAMAJ ----- to worship formless God like Muslims to avoid persecution by the Muslims:--

 BHAARATIYS always worship THE SUPREME POWER GOD / GODDESS ---i) in FEMALE form as JAGADMBAA ,   ii) in MALE form as BRAHM ब्रह्म , (not BRAHMAA )  iii) in NOT FEMALE AND NOT MALE form as OM ॐ ओम् (NOT AUM )
Muslims do not worship THE SUPREME POWER GOD / GODDESS  in any form therefore Muslim burnt all those places where ever they see THE SUPREME POWER GOD / GODDESS in any form is worshipped and they killed people whoever worships THE SUPREME POWER GOD / GODDESS in any form.This was the reason BHAARATIYS started  emphasizing to worshipTHE SUPREME POWER GOD / GODDESS in formless form which gave birth of AARYAA-Samaaj आर्य  समाज to avoid prosecution by the Muslims.                            
3 b  ) -- to change -BHAARATIYS Greetings to Namaste  (नमस्ते ),which means---I respect you---word meaning is---I bow to you:---- BHAARATIYS used to greet each others before muslims and British Christans came to Bhaarat  as---
जैय अम्बे Jai Ambe ,जैय दुर्गे Jai Durge , जैय सीता राम  Jai Siitaa Raam' जैय रुक्मणि कृष्ण jai Rukmani Krishan ,  जय  राधे etc. etc. 
jai  Raam  jii  kii  जै राम जी की , 
jai Siitaa raam  जै सीता राम, 
Raam Raam , राम राम ,  jai maataa ki जै माता की etc.etc.

 BHAARATIYS thought  if we change our greetings  to Namaste  (नमस्ते ),which means---I respect you---word meaning is---I bow to you then we would avoid the Muslims' cruel ways of conversion, subjugation, persecution, mutilation and coercion, etc. etc.
But for a Muslim,  BHAARATIY is a  BHAARATIY, good for ONLY FOR conversion, subjugation, persecution, mutilation and coercion, etc. etc.        
 By doing all the changes still things did not change, BHAARATIYS suffered in the hands of   Muslims' cruel ways of conversion, subjugation, persecution, mutilation and coercion, etc.etc.---
 
BHAARAT suffered a lot since Muslims came to BHAARAT about 9 hundred years ago ; The whole world suffered  a lot since Islam came into existence , for about 14 hundred years .AND
BHAARAT suffered a lot since BRITISH CHRISTIANS came to INDIA about 3 hundred years ago ; The whole world suffered  a lot since CHRISTIANITY came into existence , for about 2 THOUSAND years .

To protect the hinduu community from islaamic atrocities and conversion 
svaami dayaa nand  started --- niraakaar puujaa --- the aaryaa samaaj ,
and some other wise hinduus started --- hinduu military --- the sikhs ,
 to protect hinduu community  not to criticize hinduus community which aaryaa samaajiis and sikhs are doing these days -----  SIKHS are saying 'WE ARE NOT HINDUUS AND WE WANT SIKH HOME LAND ; KHAALISTHAAN" 

AARYAA SAMAAJII ---- SAY :----- ON SHIV RAATRY A MOUSE ATE PRASAAD WHICH WAS FOR BHAGAVAAN SHIV AND BHAGAVAAN SHIV COULD NOT PROTECT HIS OWN PRASAAD ----BUT MY QUESTION TO THOSE PEOPLE IS ---- WHY  NIRAAKAAR BHAGAVAAN COULD NOT PROTECT THAT PRASAAD ---- HE IS OMNIPRESENT , OMNISCIENT , OMNIPOTENT   ETC. ETC. ----


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