Re: FAQ project

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Raimund Ruppel

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Feb 23, 2011, 4:44:19 PM2/23/11
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Gentlemen,

I have compiled all the questions from the GLoAQ thread into two categories:

- 16 questions that are basically answered in the current FAQ, with maybe a few nuances left open, even with a few answers contradicting the current FAQ.

- 38 questions that are not in the current FAQ, but most of them need to go in in my opinion.

For now I just did some editing and formatting, but prior to submitting we will want to reword or extend some of the questions to get only clear Q&As in.

I´ll attach the two files for your review in .txt format - if anyone feels like setting up a first submittable draft, feel free and let us know.

Or should I post them as two separate (large) threads in the FAQ section in the forum?

Best,
Raimund

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 22:33:23 +0100
> Von: "Raimund Ruppel" <bi...@gmx.net>
> An: desce...@googlegroups.com
> Betreff: Re: FAQ project

> Eric, all the best from my side as well!
>
> Corbon, are you already on holiday? Or will we try to finalize most of the
> threads before you leave?
>
> Raimund
>
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:55:38 -0600
> > Von: Eric Schuld <esc...@gmail.com>
> > An: desce...@googlegroups.com
> > Betreff: Re: FAQ project
>
> > Yeah thanks! We are getting pretty excited to have a kid - it's our
> first.
> >
> > I will know more in the next week or two if I will be attending the
> event
> > -
> > I have registered in the hopes that I will be able to - and if I am - I
> > will
> > certainly bring it up with Anton and Kevin if Kevin is there this year.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Corbon Loughnan <corb...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Good luck for both those events!
> > >
> > > I'd hope we can do a little bit of back and forth with Anton over a
> week
> > or
> > > two in march - IIRC there seemed to be a bit of that last year.
> > > A few of the questions are are linked with other questions and/or
> > existing
> > > faq answers, so some checking of consistency will be required once we
> > have
> > > answers, not to mention going over things any time they choose a "some
> > other
> > > answer" option.
> > >
> > > I'm going to be holidaying, with intermittent at best www/email access
> > at
> > > times, through late feb early march anyway, so until around 13 March I
> > won;t
> > > be able to participate much at that stage.
> > >
> > > Corbon
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8 February 2011 22:00, Eric Schuld <esc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Anton is aware of the community effort to help develop the FAQ. I
> > believe
> > >> they would hold off on any official posting to include ours.
> Especially
> > when
> > >> you consider that the questions are themselves brought from the
> > community to
> > >> begin with. This effort was simply to make it easier and less time
> > consuming
> > >> for them - in the hope they would just need to read the work done and
> > make a
> > >> ruling on which solution was correct.
> > >>
> > >> There is also a remote chance I will be at the Terrinoth event on the
> > >> 25-27th... I have signed up - but my wife and I are due in about 5
> > weeks or
> > >> so... so pending how that continues to proceed - I may not want to be
> 3
> > >> hours away from my wife. :) So that being said - I might be able to
> > just
> > >> take a printed out FAQ update request with this groups work and hand
> > deliver
> > >> it to Kevin Wilson. :) But lets not count on it at this point.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Raimund Ruppel <bi...@gmx.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> another aspect: Does FFG definitely wait for us to submit a list for
> > the
> > >>> next FAQ? Since March approaching probably looks like FAQ time, I
> > wouldn´t
> > >>> want to publish them a FAQ without our list.
> > >>>
> > >>> Probably we should give Anton an advance notice that we are
> preparing
> > >>> such a thing, at least to hear that they are willing to accept and
> > process
> > >>> it? I hope they didn´t lose any interest in the FAQ, especially
> after
> > that
> > >>> weird splash screen regarding "no rules questions in the forums".
> > >>>
> > >>> Best,
> > >>> Raimund
> > >>>
> > >>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > >>> > Datum: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 10:09:19 +0800
> > >>> > Von: Corbon Loughnan <corb...@gmail.com>
> > >>> > An: desce...@googlegroups.com
> > >>> > Betreff: Re: FAQ project
> > >>>
> > >>> > Hi
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On 7 February 2011 22:59, Raimund Ruppel <bi...@gmx.net> wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > Thanks Corbon for starting to finalize the first ten threads. I
> > >>> > thoroughly
> > >>> > > read through them and commented as necessary.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Thanks. It's good to see someone supporting things. I know nearly
> > every
> > >>> > thread could be improved, but all too few people have offered
> > >>> improvement
> > >>> > suggestions.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Please note that some answers are pretty hard to understand if one
> > is
> > >>> not
> > >>> > > aware of that darn word dropping function of the forum software
> > >>> > (especially
> > >>> > > "choose", "delete" or "drop" - probably "select" and "remove" or
> > >>> "omit"
> > >>> > > would go through? Might be worth a try in the next set of
> > threads).
> > >>> > Prior to
> > >>> > > submitting, we will have to go through them all again and add
> the
> > >>> > missing
> > >>> > > words...
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > To be honest that needs someone other than me to do a 'proof read'
> > on
> > >>> the
> > >>> > final document after the threads are collated - proof reading
> one's
> > own
> > >>> > work
> > >>> > is not a good idea.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > Before the final submission, I plan to go through the GLoAQ
> > answers
> > >>> and
> > >>> > > compile the ones missing from the FAQ into one document - to
> avoid
> > >>> > double
> > >>> > > work, please notify here if somebody else already started or
> wants
> > to
> > >>> > start
> > >>> > > such a collection. My opinion is that these answers simply must
> go
> > >>> into
> > >>> > the
> > >>> > > FAQ as well.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Hooray! I simply don't have the time to get to this, so thanks for
> > >>> picking
> > >>> > it up. I'm sure I started - nothing more than a collation from the
> > >>> GLOAQ
> > >>> > thread, but I can't find the document now, sorry. :(
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Corbon
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > Best,
> > >>> > > Raimund
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > >>> > > > Datum: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 08:58:55 -0600
> > >>> > > > Von: Eric Schuld <esc...@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > > An: desce...@googlegroups.com
> > >>> > > > Betreff: Re: FAQ project
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > > Well - at the same time however - Antistone holds a specific
> > >>> > perspective
> > >>> > > > on
> > >>> > > > how the game should be. (ref. his own complete set of rules.)
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > We took an impartial attempt - to present both sides - and let
> > FFG
> > >>> > > decide.
> > >>> > > > Can't be faulted for making that attempt.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Corbon Loughnan <
> > >>> corb...@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > I'll be trying to go through the threads and get a 'final'
> > post
> > >>> from
> > >>> > > > each
> > >>> > > > > thread to go inthe compilation over the next two weeks.
> > >>> > > > > Once it is compiled I'll post it back here.
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > I haven't touched the GLOAQ answers at all.
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > I guess I was (still am somewhat) mostly dispirited that
> > >>> Antistone
> > >>> > (in
> > >>> > > > > particular) would publicly disavow the project. It tells me
> we
> > >>> did
> > >>> > > > things
> > >>> > > > > the wrong way, or hints to that at least. I felt we never
> > really
> > >>> got
> > >>> > > > *much*
> > >>> > > > > input from anyone about *improving* thread starter posts.
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > Corbon
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > On 3 February 2011 17:47, Raimund Ruppel <bi...@gmx.net>
> wrote:
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >> I´d say we should at least try to compile the gathered
> > threads
> > >>> so
> > >>> > far
> > >>> > > > and
> > >>> > > > >> submit them to FFG. Maybe we can get at least a few useful
> > >>> answers.
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> I guess Antistone´s approach is a bit too fastidious and
> FFG
> > >>> > and/or
> > >>> > > > the
> > >>> > > > >> FAQ will probably never meet his standards - but the
> average
> > >>> > Descent
> > >>> > > > player
> > >>> > > > >> doesn´t really need those in all their details.
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> Corbon, did you prepare anything close to a draft that
> > includes
> > >>> any
> > >>> > or
> > >>> > > > all
> > >>> > > > >> threads and the GLoAQ answers that are missing in the FAQ ?
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> I am probably willing to prepare a doc to be sent to FFG,
> yet
> > I
> > >>> > have
> > >>> > > no
> > >>> > > > >> clue where to send it exactly.
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> Best,
> > >>> > > > >> Raimund
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > >>> > > > >> > Datum: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 18:43:08 -0600
> > >>> > > > >> > Von: Eric Schuld <esc...@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > > >> > An: desce...@googlegroups.com
> > >>> > > > >> > Betreff: Re: FAQ project
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> > Is it close enough the work can just be submitted?
> > >>> > > > >> > On Feb 2, 2011 6:35 PM, "jorge medina"
> <neo....@gmail.com>
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>> > > > >> > > To be honest, I don't see myself getting that drive
> back
> > >>> > anytime
> > >>> > > > soon.
> > >>> > > > >> I
> > >>> > > > >> > > spent so long analyzing the game in lieu of playing it
> > that
> > >>> > I've
> > >>> > > > >> > forgotten
> > >>> > > > >> > > what it feels like to combine Descent and Fun. I made a
> > few
> > >>> > > > >> half-hearted
> > >>> > > > >> > > attempts to get back into the forums but I just don't
> > have
> > >>> the
> > >>> > > time
> > >>> > > > >> > > anymore. Maybe if I actually get Descent out on the
> table
> > >>> I'll
> > >>> > > > >> remember
> > >>> > > > >> > why
> > >>> > > > >> > > this was so important.
> > >>> > > > >> > >
> > >>> > > > >> > > The whole FAQ thing is a draining task without support
> > from
> > >>> > FFG,
> > >>> > > > and I
> > >>> > > > >> > think
> > >>> > > > >> > > they want to just try and solve it via the rules
> support
> > >>> > mechanism
> > >>> > > > in
> > >>> > > > >> > any
> > >>> > > > >> > > case (anyone see that weird splash page about it?). If
> we
> > >>> had
> > >>> > some
> > >>> > > > >> other
> > >>> > > > >> > > motivated young soul to burn, I'd toss it to them.
> > >>> > > > >> > >
> > >>> > > > >> > > Someone's going to have to compile the threads I guess.
> > >>> > > > >> > >
> > >>> > > > >> > > :Jorge
> > >>> > > > >> > >
> > >>> > > > >> > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Corbon Loughnan
> > >>> > > > <corb...@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > > >> > wrote:
> > >>> > > > >> > >
> > >>> > > > >> > >> Gentlemen,
> > >>> > > > >> > >>
> > >>> > > > >> > >> I've run low on puff.
> > >>> > > > >> > >> Antistone, whom I respect more than just about any
> other
> > on
> > >>> > the
> > >>> > > > >> rules,
> > >>> > > > >> > >> has publicly stated that he has no confidence in the
> > >>> project,
> > >>> > and
> > >>> > > > has
> > >>> > > > >> > >> been noticeably lacking in input for quite a while.
> > >>> > > > >> > >> Does someone else want to take it over from here and
> > I'll
> > >>> keep
> > >>> > > out
> > >>> > > > of
> > >>> > > > >> > >> it?
> > >>> > > > >> > >>
> > >>> > > > >> > >> Corbon
> > >>> > > > >> > >>
> > >>> > > > >>
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jorge medina

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Feb 23, 2011, 4:53:55 PM2/23/11
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Do both (post here and in the forums), and I'll take these files and edit them this weekend into a submission draft.

Eric Schuld

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Feb 23, 2011, 4:55:56 PM2/23/11
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I will unfortunately not be traveling to the FFG Terrinoth event... I can try and help with emails to Anton if needed. Unless you have his email (which you likely do from my other emails to him).

Just let me know!
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