Derbyshire Dales District Council Local Plan Review and DEADLINES
John Beardmore
public consultation before they hope to get it finalised, probably in
autumn.
The local plan is mostly about land use and development, but getting an
area or site designated for a particular type of activity, or a
particular project, in the local plan could potentially make it somewhat
easier to get planning permission at a later point. Keep this in mind if
you have any ideas for projects.
In addition to these location based aspects of the local plan, there are
also policies. I guess for example we might suggest policies to put PV
on industrial, church and community buildings, as well as roofs.
Or you might suggest that it be possible to use land next to industrial
sites (for PV, wind etc), to provide energy to decarbonise them by
direct connection, rather than via the already overloaded grid.
In addition to the consultations mentioned above, there's an online
questionnaire which you can fill in.
This has been a six-week public consultation running from Thursday 9th
May, ending ENDING ON THURSDAY 20th JUNE 2024.
Probably best to start here,
https://www.derbyshiredales.gov.uk/planning/planning-policy-and-local-plan/local-plan/local-plan-review-2022
then read the leaflet.
This is about housing, but it may be possible to work in some comments
about making development sustainable in a broader sense.
I guess questions 2 and 2a could be answered in terms of the need to
live more sustainably while addressing the climate and ecological
emergency, and possibly access to nature near housing ?
Question 10 could be answered in terms of community owned village scale
community energy projects.
Question 12 talks about the sustainability of smaller villages through
new development, but maybe it's worth pointing out that maintaining the
sustainability of smaller villages could include village scale and
village owned community energy projects, and making land available to
support these.
Cheers, J/.
Sue Basker
What about batteries with installations at industrial, church or community sites? That would make them even less dependent on the grid.
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This is now in progress, and there will apparently be two rounds of public consultation before they hope to get it finalised, probably in autumn. The local plan is mostly about land use and development, but getting an area or site designated for a particular type of activity, or a particular project, in the local plan could potentially make it somewhat easier to get planning permission at a later point. Keep this in mind if you have any ideas for projects. In addition to these location based aspects of the local plan, there are also policies. I guess for example we might suggest policies to put PV on industrial, church and community buildings, as well as roofs. Or you might suggest that it be possible to use land next to industrial sites (for PV, wind etc), to provide energy to decarbonise them by direct connection, rather than via the already overloaded grid. In addition to the consultations mentioned above, there's an online questionnaire which you can fill in. This has been a six-week public consultation running from Thursday 9th May, ending ENDING ON THURSDAY 20th JUNE 2024. Probably best to start here, https://www.derbyshiredales.gov.uk/planning/planning-policy-and-local-plan/local-plan/local-plan-review-2022 then read the leaflet. This is about housing, but it may be possible to work in some comments about making development sustainable in a broader sense. I guess questions 2 and 2a could be answered in terms of the need to live more sustainably while addressing the climate and ecological emergency, and possibly access to nature near housing ? Question 10 could be answered in terms of community owned village scale community energy projects. Question 12 talks about the sustainability of smaller villages through new development, but maybe it's worth pointing out that maintaining the sustainability of smaller villages could include village scale and village owned community energy projects, and making land available to support these. Cheers, J/. -- To see the WEB VIEW go to this link : https://groups.google.com/d/forum/derbyshireclimatecoalition. This is where you can see the history of the discussions. To start a new topic (thread) email derbyshirecli...@googlegroups.com. In other words DO NOT REPLY to an existing topic. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "DerbyshireClimateCoalition" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to derbyshireclimateco...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/derbyshireclimatecoalition/68223ce4-8922-41da-9875-e713902f2698%40beardmore.org.uk.
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> What about batteries with installations at industrial, church or
> community sites? That would make them even less dependent on the grid.
renewable energy systems, but they would have to be large to require
planning consent.
At a village / community / industrial estate level they might be quite
large though, so certainly worth mentioning energy storage.
I'd call it electrical energy storage rather than batteries, as there
are all sorts that might be used, including flow cells; compressed air;
and machines for storing energy by raising very big weights which might
be installed in old mines or quarries.
Cheers, J/.
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John Beardmore
> Yes.
>
> My 8 solar panels are on a roof facing west south west and, with 3 X 15w
> batteries
That's a lot of battery, though it's the sort of size I was thinking of
getting for our place with a view to use with an EV and heat pump at
some point.
You can get a lot of the benefit with much smaller batteries though,
especially if you don't have those big loads.
> installed last October I've had less than half price bills
> since soon after,
utilisation at my sons house, even though he works at home. And that's
with 2.5 kW of PV and a 6kWh battery.
His PV is 10 or 11 years old now, and still going strong on its first
inverter.
The battery is a cast off seven year old Tesla Powerwall 1 which its
previous owner hadn't used for a over a year. Not being used isn't good
for batteries, but this one doesn't seem to have suffered too badly, and
still manages 80% or more (energy out / energy in) efficiency.
I used to be quite ambivalent about batteries, and wrote this CPD
article for the Energy Institute back in 2017,
https://energyinst.org/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/538879/Series-14-Module-9-March-2017.pdf
It seemed at the time, that I couldn't prove an environmental benefit,
and I doubted that domestic users would get their money back.
I still can't prove that there is (or isn't) an environmental benefit;
it's complicated. But electricity prices ave tripled which dispels my
financial objections.
> and a negative bill last month despite the miserable
> weather: a big environmental effect in a small way. Think of the effect
> of using solar globally!
> I expect the batteries to have a shorter life, though,
uncertainty about longevity, but lithium ion seems to be doing pretty well.
> because my
> Octopus tariff achieves the result by topping then up automatically at
> the cheapest time, which means they're constantly in use. So any
> alternatives would be welcomed since battery replacement has to be
> deducted from the benefits.
Hopefully they might last 15 years, so I won't rush to suggest
alternatives, but maybe solid state batteries, or cheaper sodium ion
batteries might win out for domestic storage in years to come.
Cheers, J/.
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> On 16/06/2024 13:36, Sue Basker wrote:
>
> > What about batteries with installations at industrial, church or
> > community sites? That would make them even less dependent on the grid.
>
> These days batteries are increasingly seen as part and parcel of
> renewable energy systems, but they would have to be large to require
> planning consent.
>
> At a village / community / industrial estate level they might be quite
> large though, so certainly worth mentioning energy storage.
>
> I'd call it electrical energy storage rather than batteries, as there
> are all sorts that might be used, including flow cells; compressed air;
> and machines for storing energy by raising very big weights which might
> be installed in old mines or quarries.
>
>
> Cheers, J/.
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