Jeppesen Plates

[Deidamia Bassiti]

Shewas adamant that the most useful thing they could add would be the ability to tie a Jepp subscription in so that you can view Jepp approach plates within SkyDemon like you can with Pooley's/AFE VFR plates (if you subscribe).

If you want to have the Jeppesen Charts you can view them in Jepp FD, now they are even georeferenced and show your position. I use that becasue I have to buy the Jepp subscription for my MFD in the airplane anyway. Additionally I use SkyDemon for VFR flight (iPad plus Bluetooth GPS)

The problem is that in Europe we are missing a standard like in the US with they use the NACO approach plates. The Big advantage of the JEPP is that you have the briefing strip on the top and some additional data like the synoptic for the go around procedure etc...

I know that is a ludicrously cynical statement but when I once asked the head of UK CAA charts (face to face) why they don't publish the plates in an A5 size that is cockpit-usable, his reply was that they are not in the business of competing with commercial providers.

So, the whole world - apart from some old niches like British Airways and the RAF - run on Jepps because they give you a consistent representation everywhere you go, and you can choose paper or electronic, at around the same (huge) cost.

Most private pilots either fly with the AIP plates, or they have a friend in a low place who gets them the Jepps as PDFs. It's also obviously possible for a club to buy a copy of Jeppview, stick it on a PC, and anybody walking past can print off what they need.

As others have said, the biggest problem with the AIP plates is that don't print our very well on A5, and are barely readable in flight. If like me, with an IMCr, you may only do approaches at a small number of airports, and can memorise the important parts, then a subscription to Jepp, isn't worth it. If you are interested, have a look at the gCap charts - they are cheap, and simplified, and you download only the ones you need. You have to make sure they are as up to date as the ICAO ones though.

don't forget there are a huge number of pilots out there who are not prepared to pay anything. The same group that resents landing fees, however low, and won't buy up to date charts (in any form) as they are too expensive.

Ok, stupid question, I think I know the answer buttttttt, does the game have IRF Approach plates in game? Now I have to go look them up on my phone and keep them there. As an Xbox player, I know there is no way to get these cool screens you PC guys get. Would be nice if these were there.

Yeah, ChartFox only provides data that is freely available. For Canada, technically you need to register for some reason.

So if you find the charts somewhere distributed for free, I guess it violates their terms.

I had approach plates that were integrated with with the charts on the CJ4 FMS but now it went into a DEMO mode and is saying that I need an ULTIMATE Subscription.

How and where do I buy this ultimate subscription to get the charts back? Any advice would be helpful

It sounds like you've been having a tough time finding global airport data. While it can be more challenging to gather all the information for world airports as compared to US ones, there are resources available.

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Can anyone recommend a good source for airport approach plates. Preferably for free and European?Are the Jeppesen plates on CD-ROM or DVD worth paying for, if I can't get them for free?Any tips gratefully received.Thanks...

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On iOS devices, it is possible to view Jeppesen Approach plates with the Premium Garmin Pilot Subscription. Make sure that you have an account and an active subscription with Jeppesen that Garmin Pilot can use.

I am looking for the ILS frequency, IMO the most important item that should be on Top like in Jeppesen plates. and I can't find it. I have to search for it all over the place.. It should be right on top.

My point about non Jeppesen still holds. LOL ? Why would they not put the frequency next to the crs (ILS 23 crs is 234, Frequency = 111.35, landing tdze = 65feet AGL. etc etc. Look at a Jeppesen plate from anywhere... They are identical no matter where in the world. if you understand one plate, you pretty much know where things are. The biggest offender are Indian Airports. Sheesh they are like hand made.. It's like someone took a napkin and drew an approach plate. ?

My point about non Jeppesen still holds. LOL ? Why would they not put the frequency next to the crs (ILS 23 crs is 234, Frequency = 111.35, landing tdze = 65feet AGL. etc etc. Look at a Jeppesen plate from anywhere... They are identical no matter where in the world. if you understand one plate, you pretty much know where things are. The biggest offender in Indian Airports. Sheesh they are like hand made.. It's like some took a napkin and drew an approach plate. ?

I'm an IFR instructor in real life. To my knowledge (and I may be wrong) there seems to be no standard layout. I know people who like Jepp, I know others who don't. Personally, I like them. In my country, our air services produce a format that is different to Jepp again.

OK. Can someone here point me to Introduction to any other "standard" chart as an alternative to Jeppesen. The US has one. The govt published charts and they have some standards too. I prefer Jeppesen to it. I have no complaints about non Jeppesen US charts. They are are a lot cheaper and they have standards. US charts are freely available too. US is awesome! ?

Its European countries I have a beef with. If its not Jeppesen, they are non standard. Specific airliners produce their own charts, like Lufthansa I believe. Imagine each country have their own standardization, like India doing their own thing. Without Jeppesen, you are screwed I think. ?

States publish aeronautical information normally in their Aeronautical Information Publication (AIP), as required of a signatory to the ICAO Chicago Convention. They can publish it directly in the AIP or in another source referenced in the AIP. In the US, the instrument approach information is published on the FAA 8260-3 Form. Here's an example of one for the KICT ILS or LOC Rwy 1L:

Legally, you could fly an approach with this form, but it would not be a lot of fun. In the US, AJV-A AeroNav Office is the charting arm of the FAA. In cooperation with the DoD and NGA, they develop cartographic standards for taking the information from the 8260-3 Form and publishing a graphic depiction in a format usable for pilots:

In State AIPs, similar information is also published, either textually like the FAA form, or on a State derived chart format that their governing body deems suitable for pilot use. In addition, ICAO does have some "Standards & Recommended Practices" or SARPs that provide signatory States guidance on how procedures should be depicted on charts, but that is only guidance. States can, and often do, publish exceptions to these SARPs in their AIP.

Third party, commercial charting providers such as Jeppesen and LIDO are commercial entities, and they are pretty much free to do what they want when it comes to charting as long as they chart whatever is required to be charted in the official "source document", e.g. FAA 8260-3 Form. Now, if they want pilots and operators to use their charts, they have listen to their customers and in many instances abide by the State regulatory authorities that oversee these operators (i.e., the airlines). The value-add feature for companies like Jeppesen and LIDO is that they take the disparate forms and depictions provided in State sources from around the world and then publish them in a consistent, standardized chart format. An approach chart for a US airport looks pretty much the same as one in Europe, Asia, or Africa. There are some difference own more to how individual States do some things, but by and large, since approaches are generally developed in accordance with either US TERPS or ICAO PANS-OPS criteria, the depiction on the chart for all IAPs, SIDs, and STARs can be made largely consistent. They also make adjustments for things like "OCA" and "OCH" and republish them as DA(H) or MDA(H) that have better meaning for the pilots who use them.

All this comes at a cost. Jeppesen and LIDO are commercial products. The chart example you provided was a State chart, I believe from the UK. The UK aviation authorities believe that the chart is fine and dandy for UK users. To get the worldwide consistency of chart depictions, you need to have a commercial charting provider that does all this work. For 80 years, that provider has been Jeppesen, and for about the first 20 years, it was all done out of Captain's Jepp's basement!

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