Precious Enoch

[Deidamia Bassiti]

Myhusband and I never planned or expected to be pregnant at the ages of 45 (me) and 46 (him). Our family was complete, as far as we were concerned. We had 3 biological children and 2 adopted children. They were 11 years old, 15, 17, 17 , and 18 at the time we found ourselves pregnant. The oldest was a prodigal at that time and had moved out on her 18th birthday, which had caused us much heartache and grief. She would have barely any contact with us for the next 3 years, but we kept hearing about her, and the downward spiral she was on, away from God & us, and family.

So, here in the midst of our deep grief and heartache, we found ourselves pregnant, and expecting new life. We could not keep the smiles off our faces, even in the midst of all the turmoil we were feeling. How in the world were we going to do this? We would ask ourselves still smiling over the craziness of it all. We felt blessed! Like God had seen our heartache over our prodigal daughter, and had given us a gift to remind us of Joy.

We are so very thankful for the tender care we received in the hospital by all the staff. They have a wonderful process in place for bereaved parents, and we were able to hold our baby as long as we wanted. The nurses took hand prints and feet prints of our precious little one, dressed her in a preemie doll sized dress, took specialized pictures of her, and even did a plaster cast of her feet in a heart mold for us to treasure.

My husband had one special thing that the funeral home had offered and he had immediately known he had to do for his own closure and fatherly duty to be fulfilled in his own heart. He met them at the funeral home the following day, and actually carried his little girl down to the crematorium, kissed her lovingly goodbye, and placed her on the special box in the cremation chamber. That is something I could never have done, but it was extremely meaningful and therapeutic to him.

My mother and younger sister had come down to support us during the labor & delivery, while my older sister and brother & his wife were coming down later in the week. Both my brother and my older sister are ordained ministers, so we had asked my brother to do the funeral for us, and my sister to help in some parts, and lead a congregational prayer. They both did an excellent job.

In her memorial folder, given out at the memorial service, I had written a poem while I was in the hospital. I am not, nor ever have been, a poet, but this just poured out of the depths of my soul. It still helps me in my grief today.

There is a lot of supporting material for this view. Other than works on the cosmic mountain imagery in the Old Testament and the ancient Near East,2 we can look at the visions of Enoch in the book of 1 Enoch. During his flight through the sky over earth (not on another planet), Enoch sees certain geographical places that are described very similarly to the language in Ezekiel. Note the wordings in the passage below that also appear in Ezekiel 28: fire, precious stones, flame.

6 I came and saw a place that was burning night and day, where (there were) seven mountains of precious stones-three lying to the east and three to the south. 7/ And of those to the east, of colored stone, and one was of pearl, and one was of . And those to the south were of flame-colored stone. 8/ And the middle one of them reached to heaven like the throne of God-of antimony; and the top of the throne was of lapis lazuli. 9/ And I saw a burning fire. 10 And beyond these mountains is a place, the edge of the great earth; there the heavens come to an end. 11/ And I saw a great chasm among pillars of heavenly fire. And I saw in it pillars of fire descending; and they were immeasurable toward the depth and toward the height.

I do not see how stones of fire could represent planets in the first place. I admit that my bible knowledge is a work in progress, but I am not aware of the information available to corroborate such a claim. I do know that there was the idea in the ancient world that the stars were some sort of heavenly beings or even the sun being like a heavenly being moving across the sky, but I am at a loss to find any reference to planetary bodies as stones of fire. This argument from Dr. Heiser makes more sense to me.

MSH: Any good material I can get my hands on from Amazon or Logos for this? Which other scholars have published book-like materials that link Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 together (and even possibly Genesis 3) as you do from Internal and External sources?

In other words, in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28, he is cursed for his pride, but in Genesis 3, he is cursed for his lie and temptation towards Eve. Thus, he must have been cursed twice, and in this case, the latter seems to be a pun, a play on words, where literal serpents crawl on the ground.

Any conclusion that these passages speak of the Devil, Satan or any personification of evil are only justified by taking extreme liberties at assumption, conjecture and speculation. Commonly only the passages actually supporting the belief are noted with little if any regard for context or cultural basis.

This perspective is firmly predicated upon several passages of scripture that are defined as being exclusive only to the fallen entity called Satan. These passages are most often used in support of the any belief in a literal Satan along with Revelations.

A cornerstone of this belief is the almost inhuman desire for power and godlike status demonstrated by the Prince of Tyrus. From the fundamentalist view it corresponds to the misconceptions of accepted doctrine ascribed to Satan.

The common argument is no man could be recognized as being perfect and therefore this verse can only be attributed to Satan and his pressumed glorious nature before the fall from grace. Advocates of this belief also utilize the following New Testament verse to substantiate this claim:

Isaiah 66:20 And they shall bring all your brethren [for] an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my HOLY MOUNTAIN JERUSALEM, saith the LORD.

1.Consequently the same exhaustive process applied to Isaiah: quickly deconstructs any fundamentalist argument on that basis.

Isa 14:4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!

Cheers DR. RW Stoufus

it seems you think cherubims are stupid,the reason humanity overflows angels is because they are not the complete package.very clever one yes,very loving another yes,very angry another yes.humans are a complete package angels can,t top.

so they use others to put humans down or restrict there development,which you might be helping with greed ,ignorance or believing lies.

Here a a suggested site for the Tomb of Ezekiel,,, _Tomb.

in he Wiki, it i suggested that Dhul-Kift would be ezekiel.. err I am skeptical at best as both these men appears different. Could 2 people share the same tomb?

THIS DAY is were we enter in HOLY UNION with G-D and His Spirit. Deut.29:13-14 verse 15 note THIS DAY G-D embraced us in His heart & mind. THIS DAY is were we NOW make our choices to chose good and life or evil and death. Deut.30:15-16 -19-20 THIS DAY our G-D set it in PLACE for our return to the FORMER THING first Done above. Ecc.1:9. Our APPOINTED DAY the LORD made for our Re-turn to the FORMER THING first DONE shall be DONE: but under the shadow of the Almighty in the Presence of The Most High. Psalm 91:1.

BUT those we fell with , those Princes Psalm 82:5 to 8 verse 7 Princes. They remained spirits in the earth . Psalm 75:12 and Psalm 2:1 to 7 War on G-D and His anointed in the earth. They hid in all forms of things Isaiah 28:15. Religions were made and rituals, customs, and holy days and feast days in these Relgions Isaiah 1:12-13-14 G-D did not ask this from your hand and HATES IT.

They never let the people see that to ReTurn was to enter in THE ETERNAL FLAME OF HEAVEN SPIRITUAL ENTER IN. To light their desires to HIS. Pslam 51:6 BEHOLD, Thou desirest truth in the INWARD PARTS: ( that remember searches the BELLY ) and in the Hidde Part Thou shalt MAKE me Know wisdom. Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will MAKE with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put MY LAW in their INWARD PARTS; and write it in their hearts; and will be their G-D, and they shall be MY people.

King Solomon seek out the One Whom His soul does love and drew G-D near . Song of Solomon 3:1 to 4. The Chamber opens and we are conceived again in spirit in the vessel flesh of male or female A NEW CREATION in the earth A WOMAN Jeremiah 31:22.

I am the from what was PLANTED by Jeremiah for G-D Himself made strong to grow back in HIS RIGHT HAND. First created above MAN now created below WOMAN made in His fullness a SON OF G-D . Summoned from Dan & Judah I Stand Up His Tent in the earth. Jeremiah 4:5 For a voice declareth form DAN, and PUBLISHETH affliction form mount Ephraim. 16 Make ye mention to the nations; BEHOLD, publish against Jerusalem, that WATCHERS COME from a FAR COUNTRY, and give out their voice against the cities of JUDAH.

Isaiah 6:9 Make the heart of this people FAT, and make their ears HEAVY, and SHUT there ears, least they see with their eyers; and hear with there ears, and understand with their heart, and ovnvert a, and be healed.

Read pages 50-55 to get an accurate and exciting understanding of creation, the ice age, satan etc. The TRUTH is far more amazing and makes more sense than what we try and explain away with our own understanding. I pray you hunger and thirst after righteousness.

I hope Mick forgives me for not burying my brief precious memoir of Enoch Powell in a comment below. I had quite a bit to do with Powell in the late 70s and again in the early 80s. His belief in the supremacy of Parliament had a mystical quality. For as long as Northern Ireland elected members to Westminster the Union was secure. No one would dare remove them against their will. Constitutional observance secures the Union. By implication therefore he was no traditional post 1922 Ulster Unionist but the sort of Unionist Carson would like to have been had circumstances permitted. In his view there was no existential threat to the Union (and in that, despite all sorts of manoeuvres and aspirations, I think he was right).

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