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Tim Pickard

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Aug 20, 2004, 9:18:14 AM8/20/04
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Hello all,

I am integrating Mailman 2.1.5 and CGPro 4.1.8 on RedHat ES3. WE have
several lists that we maintain and do not want to migrate yet.

I followed Scotte Elliot's integration HowTO/
http://mail.stalker.com/Lists/CGatePro/Message/52705.html

The result is that I have one functioning list, mailman, that was set up
initially. Now that I am integrating I am having no luck with new lists.

All messages to the new lists bounce hard.

Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:

Recipient address: li...@crossref.org
Reason: Remote SMTP server has rejected address
Diagnostic code: smtp;550 li...@crossref.org unknown user account
Remote system: dns;cr2.crossref.org
(TCP|172.30.0.15|51551|208.254.38.82|25)
(****************************************)

>From the CGPro system log

20:16:10.01 4 ROUTER Input: list1-...@cr2.crossref.org
20:16:10.01 5 ROUTER Parser: list1-...@cr2.crossref.org ->
list1-bounces(cr2.crossref.org)
20:16:10.01 4 ROUTER rerouted with SYSTEM to <list1-bounces> at <>
20:16:10.01 5 ROUTER Parser: list1-bounces -> list1-bounces()
20:16:10.01 1 ROUTER list1-...@cr2.crossref.org rejected by SYSTEM:
Error Code=unknown user account
20:16:10.01 1 SMTPI-00006([127.0.0.1]) Return-Path
'list1-...@cr2.crossref.org' rejected: unknown user account
20:16:38.01 4 ROUTER Input: list1-...@cr2.crossref.org
20:16:38.01 5 ROUTER Parser: list1-...@cr2.crossref.org ->
list1-bounces(cr2.crossref.org)
20:16:38.01 4 ROUTER rerouted with SYSTEM to <list1-bounces> at <>
20:16:38.01 5 ROUTER Parser: list1-bounces -> list1-bounces()
20:16:38.01 1 ROUTER list1-...@cr2.crossref.org rejected by SYSTEM:
Error Code=unknown user account
20:16:38.01 1 SMTPI-00007([127.0.0.1]) Return-Path
'list1-...@cr2.crossref.org' rejected: unknown user account
20:20:10.12 4 ROUTER Input: li...@crossref.org
20:20:10.12 5 ROUTER Parser: li...@crossref.org -> list1(crossref.org)
20:20:10.12 4 ROUTER rerouted with SYSTEM to <list1> at <>
20:20:10.12 5 ROUTER Parser: list1 -> list1()
20:20:10.12 1 ROUTER li...@crossref.org rejected by SYSTEM: Error
Code=unknown user account

I have added the info for the lists to /etc/aliases

## testing mailing list
test: "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post test"
test-admin: "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman admin test"
test-bounces: "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman bounces test"
test-confirm: "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman confirm test"
test-join: "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman join test"
test-leave: "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman leave test"
test-owner: "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman owner test"
test-request: "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman request test"
test-subscribe: "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe test"
test-unsubscribe: "|/var/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe test"

Run newaliases
newaliases
/etc/aliases: 163 aliases, longest 54 bytes, 6355 bytes total

I have added the info to the CGPro Router config

<li...@lists.crossref.org> = "mailman post list1"@pipe ;
<list1-*@lists.crossref.org> = "mailman * list1"@pipe ;

Still nothing. Everything is just like the working first list.

Now I also cannot break the working list. Mangling the router entry.
Removing aliases.

Does anyone have any sort of idea or experience with the integration?

Tim


Tim Pickard
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40 Salem Street
Lynnfield, MA 01940
p.781-295-0072
f.781-295-0077
tpic...@crossref.org

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Karl Zander

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Aug 20, 2004, 9:44:55 AM8/20/04
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At 06:18 AM 8/20/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I am integrating Mailman 2.1.5 and CGPro 4.1.8 on RedHat ES3. WE have
>several lists that we maintain and do not want to migrate yet.
>
>I followed Scotte Elliot's integration HowTO/
>http://mail.stalker.com/Lists/CGatePro/Message/52705.html
>
>The result is that I have one functioning list, mailman, that was set up
>initially. Now that I am integrating I am having no luck with new lists.
>
>All messages to the new lists bounce hard.
>
>Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:
>
> Recipient address: li...@crossref.org
> Reason: Remote SMTP server has rejected address
> Diagnostic code: smtp;550 li...@crossref.org unknown user account
> Remote system: dns;cr2.crossref.org
>(TCP|172.30.0.15|51551|208.254.38.82|25)

I have been working on this integration too. Is the recipient address
correct?

Recipient address: li...@crossref.org


Not sure how you setup the domain for mailmain in CGP, but if you setup
lists.crossref.org wouldn't the recipient address be

li...@lists.crossref.org

-Karl

Eric Pierce

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Aug 20, 2004, 10:17:01 AM8/20/04
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Your router entries are for list1-...@lists.crossref.org but you
are sending to list1-...@cr2.crossref.org. Also why did you update
/etc/aliases? As far as I know, CGP doesn't read it.

-Eric

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Tim Pickard

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Aug 20, 2004, 10:38:24 AM8/20/04
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I have 2 domains setup. lists.crossref.org and
crossref.org. Crossref.org has 2 aliases,
cr2.crossref.org and mail.crossref.org.

I have tried router entries with lists.crossref.org (per
the HowTO) and generic crossref.org.

Its clear (in the light of day and with some sleep) that
CGPro is not recognizing the username in any fashion as a
valid address.

IT seems that there is a disconnect in what CGPro knows
versus what I think it knows.

Tim

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:44:55 -0400
Karl Zander <cgp...@commpartners.com> wrote:


>At 06:18 AM 8/20/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>>Hello all,
>>
>>I am integrating Mailman 2.1.5 and CGPro 4.1.8 on RedHat
>>ES3. WE have
>>several lists that we maintain and do not want to migrate
>>yet.
>>
>>I followed Scotte Elliot's integration HowTO/
>>http://mail.stalker.com/Lists/CGatePro/Message/52705.html
>>
>>The result is that I have one functioning list, mailman,
>>that was set up
>>initially. Now that I am integrating I am having no luck
>>with new lists.
>>
>>All messages to the new lists bounce hard.
>>
>>Your message cannot be delivered to the following
>>recipients:
>>
>> Recipient address: li...@crossref.org
>> Reason: Remote SMTP server has rejected address
>> Diagnostic code: smtp;550 li...@crossref.org unknown
>>user account
>> Remote system: dns;cr2.crossref.org
>>(TCP|172.30.0.15|51551|208.254.38.82|25)
>

>I have been working on this integration too. Is the
>recipient address correct?
>
>Recipient address: li...@crossref.org
>
>
>Not sure how you setup the domain for mailmain in CGP,
>but if you setup lists.crossref.org wouldn't the
>recipient address be
>
>li...@lists.crossref.org
>
>-Karl
>
>

Tim Pickard

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Aug 20, 2004, 10:51:42 AM8/20/04
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Eric,

Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

I have cr2.crossref.org as an alias to the main
"crossref.org" domain.

I created lists.crossref.org per the HowTO.

I have tried changing the router entry to
"cr2.crossref.org" and just "crossref.org"

However, it did inspire me to send mail to
li...@cr2.crossref.org with the router entry set to the
same domain. This works but doesn't work for me as I need
to keep the "list...@crossref.org" format.

address router
li...@cr2.crossref.org cr2.crossref.org works
li...@cr2.crossref.org crossref.org fails
li...@crossref.org crossref.org fails

IS there soemthing different I need to do with my domain
setup?

Thanks for your help
Tim

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:17:01 -0400
Eric Pierce <epi...@usf.edu> wrote:
>Your router entries are for
>list1-...@lists.crossref.org but you are sending to
>list1-...@cr2.crossref.org. Also why did you update
>/etc/aliases? As far as I know, CGP doesn't read it.
>
>-Eric
>
>########################################################
>Eric Pierce, RHCE Phone: (813) 974-8868
>Academic Computing Fax: (813) 974-1799
>University of South Florida Email: epi...@usf.edu
>

>On Aug 20, 2004, at 9:18 AM, Tim Pickard wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am integrating Mailman 2.1.5 and CGPro 4.1.8 on RedHat
>>ES3. WE have
>> several lists that we maintain and do not want to
>>migrate yet.
>>
>> I followed Scotte Elliot's integration HowTO/
>> http://mail.stalker.com/Lists/CGatePro/Message/52705.html
>>
>> The result is that I have one functioning list, mailman,
>>that was set
>> up
>> initially. Now that I am integrating I am having no
>>luck with new
>> lists.
>>
>> All messages to the new lists bounce hard.
>>
>> Your message cannot be delivered to the following
>>recipients:
>>
>> Recipient address: li...@crossref.org
>> Reason: Remote SMTP server has rejected address
>> Diagnostic code: smtp;550 li...@crossref.org unknown
>>user account
>> Remote system: dns;cr2.crossref.org
>> (TCP|172.30.0.15|51551|208.254.38.82|25)

Tim Pickard

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Aug 20, 2004, 12:34:45 PM8/20/04
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The crazy think about this is that the list "mailman"
works fine.

<mai...@crossref.org> = "mailman post mailman"@pipe ;
<mailman-*@crossref.org> = "mailman * mailman"@pipe ;

While list1 only works if the machine name is specified

<li...@cr2.crossref.org> = "mailman post list1"@pipe ;
<list1-*@cr2.crossref.org> = "mailman * list1"@pipe ;

cr2.crossref.org is an alias to the crossref.org domain.

I can set up accounts for the lists and have them forward
to li...@cr2.crossref.org but its not realy what I want to
do.

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