ISDN Hanging up on Linux
Hywel Burris
seen below(the isp is demon): -
Sep 1 13:09:59 2001|+497115 |+498440416677 | 30| 2961| 999346199| -1|O| 16|
0| 0|3.2|7|0|0.12|DEM|0.12| 33| -1|
Sep 1 13:15:47 2001|+497115 |+498440416677 | 37| 3708| 999346547| -1|O| 16|
0| 0|3.2|7|0|0.12|DEM|0.12| 33| -1|
[Snip] about 20 others
Sep 1 16:40:20 2001|+497115 |+498440416677 | 29| 2910| 999358820| -1|O| 16|
0| 0|3.2|7|0|0.12|DEM|0.12| 33| -1|
Sep 1 16:44:28 2001|+497115 |+498440416677 | 29| 2913| 999359068| -1|O| 16|
0| 0|3.2|7|0|0.12|DEM|0.12| 33| -1|
I have set the call time out to 0 so i would hope that it would not time
out. I am phone the 128K NDU line and my config file is as follows: -
BOOT="on"
PROVIDER="Demon"
USER="*******"
PASSWORD="*******"
ENCAP="syncppp"
DIALMODE="auto"
SECURE="off"
MSN="5"
PHONE_IN=""
PREFIX=""
AREACODE="0844"
PHONE_OUT="0416677"
BUNDLING="on"
LOCAL_IP="194.70.45.113"
REMOTE_IP="158.152.1.222"
HUPTIMEOUT="0"
DNS="158.152.1.58 158.152.143"
NETMASK=""
DOMAIN="insteng.co.uk"
CALLBACK="off"
CHARGEHUP=""
CHARGEINT=""
CBHUP=""
CBDELAY="3"
DIALMAX=""
AUTH="+pap -chap"
IHUP=""
DELDEFAULTROUTE="enabled"
CBCP="off"
VJ="off"
VJCCOMP="off"
AC="off"
PC="off"
BSDCOMP="off"
CCP="off"
DIALIN="off"
Is it the 2nd bundled line that is hanging up or both of them? How do i
tell?
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks in advance
Hywel
Ian Northeast
>
> I am having problems with RH7.1 hanging up my ISDN connections as can be
> seen below(the isp is demon): -
>
> Sep 1 13:09:59 2001|+497115 |+498440416677 | 30| 2961| 999346199| -1|O| 16|
> 0| 0|3.2|7|0|0.12|DEM|0.12| 33| -1|
> Sep 1 13:15:47 2001|+497115 |+498440416677 | 37| 3708| 999346547| -1|O| 16|
> 0| 0|3.2|7|0|0.12|DEM|0.12| 33| -1|
> [Snip] about 20 others
> Sep 1 16:40:20 2001|+497115 |+498440416677 | 29| 2910| 999358820| -1|O| 16|
> 0| 0|3.2|7|0|0.12|DEM|0.12| 33| -1|
> Sep 1 16:44:28 2001|+497115 |+498440416677 | 29| 2913| 999359068| -1|O| 16|
> 0| 0|3.2|7|0|0.12|DEM|0.12| 33| -1|
>
> I have set the call time out to 0 so i would hope that it would not time
> out. I am phone the 128K NDU line
Hywel, the messages in /var/log/messages would be useful, especially if
you have isdnlog running, as hopefully you do. Could you post these?
(config snipped)
>
> Is it the 2nd bundled line that is hanging up or both of them? How do i
> tell?
From the above I can't. But if you post the log messages I should be
able to. However, if the second line hangs up the connection will still
be active. If the first does (even if it leaves the second there) the
connection will die.
BTW unlike your compression problem I havn't seen this one. My line
hangs up exactly as I have it configured.
Have you set an idle hangup time on the Demon password web page by any
chance?
Regards, Ian
Hywel Burris
calls seem to be ibod opening and shutting the ippp1 but hopefully ippp0 is
staying open, I think it is as i have been telnetting it periodically and
getting access.
It was a major concern as it is the router for work and mail would have been
bounced if it could not find my exchange server.
Thanks for the reply
Hywel
"Ian Northeast" <i...@house-from-hell.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3B922B27...@house-from-hell.demon.co.uk...
Brian {Hamilton Kelly}
buz...@buzzard2.demon.co.uk "Hywel Burris" writes:
> I am having problems with RH7.1 hanging up my ISDN connections as can be
> seen below(the isp is demon): -
>
> Sep 1 13:09:59 2001|+497115 |+498440416677 | 30| 2961| 999346199| -1|O| 16|
> 0| 0|3.2|7|0|0.12|DEM|0.12| 33| -1|
Umm, I may be reading something into this that doesn't belong, but ought
not the number +498440416677 shown above to be +448440416677? After all,
the call needs to go to a British 0844 number, and not to Germany.
OTOH, of course, why would one dial a g5 number with an International
prefix? So perhaps this shows something entirely different.
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Hywel Burris
the prefix. ISDN4LINUX is a German product.
Hywel
"Brian {Hamilton Kelly}" <b...@dsl.co.uk> wrote in message
news:999456...@dsl.co.uk...
Dave Holland
>It does dial a british number, I have checked!! I can't find where to change
>the prefix. ISDN4LINUX is a German product.
I *believe* (but am not sure) that the prefix is purely cosmetic in this
context. With Debian Linux, I think the configuration file to change it
is somewhere in /etc/isdn*
Dave
L. Whiteside
<buz...@buzzard2.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>It does dial a british number, I have checked!! I can't find where to change
>the prefix. ISDN4LINUX is a German product.
>
>> > Sep 1 13:09:59 2001|+497115 |+498440416677 | 30| 2961| 999346199| -1|O|
>16|
>> > 0| 0|3.2|7|0|0.12|DEM|0.12| 33| -1|
>>
>> Umm, I may be reading something into this that doesn't belong, but ought
>> not the number +498440416677 shown above to be +448440416677? After all,
>> the call needs to go to a British 0844 number, and not to Germany.
It looks like you may be viewing the file created by isdnlog, in which
case there's a country code setting in a file somewhere. Have a look at
the system log file (/var/log/messages ?) to see the full dial hang up
info complete with ISDN cause codes.
As I don't use RH I'm not sure where this setting would be, on my main box
it's in /etc/isdn. Possibly time to grep for the +49 ?
As you say Isdn4linux originated in Germany - but that doesn't mean it
doesn't work perfectly well here.
Just over a month ago, demon appear to have dropped the
de.alt.comm.isdn4linux newsgroup - so far with no explanation. Otherwise
I'd have suggested you ask there. I wonder what else Demon have dropped
without saying anything?
Regards
Liam
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> On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 22:30:05 +0100, "Hywel Burris"
> <buz...@buzzard2.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Just over a month ago, demon appear to have dropped the
> de.alt.comm.isdn4linux newsgroup - so far with no explanation. Otherwise
> I'd have suggested you ask there. I wonder what else Demon have dropped
> without saying anything?
It was removed by the .de usenet committee in accordance with their
procedures. Demon just obeyed a correctly formatted PGP signed rmgroup.
I have no idea why, there is probably some .de equivalent of
uk.net.news.config where you could ask.
Ian Northeast
A pointer to a thread in which this was discussed was posted at the time
(to demon.service I think). Unfortunately, unlike the late NG, it was
all in German. I tried to read it but my German was not adequate to the
task (I can't manage much beyond ordering a beer:)
If any German speaker happened to see this and knows the answer I for
one would be grateful if they would post a precis in English. I used to
find the group very useful, it would have been the perfect place for
this thread for instance. Presumably there was an announcement in the
group itself before it was withdrawn, and presumably it too was in
German so I didn't see it (I used to just read the English threads of
course).
There is still a reference to the group on the i4l web site.
Regards, Ian
Imran
<li...@whitesound.com> wrote:
>Just over a month ago, demon appear to have dropped the
>de.alt.comm.isdn4linux newsgroup
It was renamed to de.comp.os.unix.linux.isdn after the gateway with
the isdn4linux mailing list was dropped.
Imran
Imran
<i...@house-from-hell.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>If any German speaker happened to see this and knows the answer I for
>one would be grateful if they would post a precis in English. I used to
>find the group very useful, it would have been the perfect place for
>this thread for instance. Presumably there was an announcement in the
>group itself before it was withdrawn, and presumably it too was in
>German so I didn't see it (I used to just read the English threads of
>course).
See,
It's in German but it also provides a brief english explanation under
"background"
Imran
Ian Northeast
>
> On Tue, 04 Sep 2001 20:11:17 +0100, Ian Northeast
> <i...@house-from-hell.demon.co.uk> wrote:
(re the demise of de.alt.comm.isdn4linux)
> >If any German speaker happened to see this and knows the answer I for
> >one would be grateful if they would post a precis in English. I used to
> >find the group very useful, it would have been the perfect place for
> >this thread for instance. Presumably there was an announcement in the
> >group itself before it was withdrawn, and presumably it too was in
> >German so I didn't see it (I used to just read the English threads of
> >course).
>
> See,
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=isdn4linux&group=de.admin.news.announce&safe=off&scoring=d&rnum=9&selm=rfd2-dcoul.isdn-12.05.2001%40dana.de
>
> It's in German but it also provides a brief english explanation under
> "background"
Many thanks Imran. Does anyone know why the ML<>news gateway was
dropped?
I guess I need to subscribe to the ML. I don't like doing this, I
already get about 70 emails a day due to ML subscriptions. I don't want
to filter in case I miss something I actually want to see. I find the
news interface suits me better. Ah well.
Regards, Ian
Hywel Burris
The config file is the isdn.conf locates in /etc/isdn
I have changed the ibod.conf file and added the parameter
STAYUP 1
this will mean that it will bond ippp1 to ippp0 and stay up until the time
out period. I set the timeout period to 0 so it should never hang up.
Does anybody know if there a better way of doing this?
Thanks again
Hywel
"Thorsten Wandersmann" <pi...@caipy.de> wrote in message
news:9mvmt0$gh6$02$1...@news.t-online.com...
> Hywel Burris wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the reply Ian, I think it was me jumping to conclusions!! The
> > calls seem to be ibod opening and shutting the ippp1 but hopefully ippp0
> > is staying open, I think it is as i have been telnetting it periodically
> > and getting access.
> >
> > It was a major concern as it is the router for work and mail would have
> > been bounced if it could not find my exchange server.
>
> Uhh, you use ibod on an oficiall router? Don't do this. ibod is far from
> beeing stable, strange things can happen.
>
> Ah, by the way, look in /etc/isdn/isdn.conf and fill in your personal
> codes. All this messages are nothing else then mesages that are also
> interpreted form isdnlog, yes, interpreted, its nt to 100% what its on the
> d-channel (Im not certain what u use in UK, either 2 64kbit b-cahnnels and
> one 16kbit d-channel or 2 56kbit with 8kbit stripped at the top for
> protokollinformations.)
>
> so, isdnlog "fills out" informtions...
>
> thorsten
>
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Ian Northeast
>
> Thanks all.
>
> The config file is the isdn.conf locates in /etc/isdn
>
> I have changed the ibod.conf file and added the parameter
>
> STAYUP 1
>
> this will mean that it will bond ippp1 to ippp0 and stay up until the time
> out period. I set the timeout period to 0 so it should never hang up.
>
> Does anybody know if there a better way of doing this?
I don't set STAYUP. What I do is to set STAYUP_TIME to 1 minute less
than the HUPTIMEOUT on ippp0. This guarantees that the second line will
always come down before the first. This is IME essential. Taking down
the master and leaving the slave up always fscks up.
Someone posted that ibod was a bad idea for a production link due to
instability (I forget where - this has crossed a number of NGs). I
disagree. It can cause problems if you try to use it and manually
control the second line simultaneously I agree - just don't do that.
Regards, Ian
L. Whiteside
Thanks for this - much more helpful than the response from demon :
> It appears that we do not / no longer carry de.alt.comm.isdn4linux
> You can email newsm...@demon.net to request that we carry this.
And the email to newsmaster seems to have disappeared into a black hole.
How did you know this - do you monitor the control group? As I only
really read the english posts, not understanding German I may have missed
some kind of announcement on the list.
Does anyone know if there is another isdn4linux group or mailing list?
Hywel Burris
> >
> > Does anybody know if there a better way of doing this?
>
> I don't set STAYUP. What I do is to set STAYUP_TIME to 1 minute less
> than the HUPTIMEOUT on ippp0. This guarantees that the second line will
> always come down before the first. This is IME essential. Taking down
> the master and leaving the slave up always fscks up.
>
> Someone posted that ibod was a bad idea for a production link due to
> instability (I forget where - this has crossed a number of NGs). I
> disagree. It can cause problems if you try to use it and manually
> control the second line simultaneously I agree - just don't do that.
>
> Regards, Ian
I am not worried about leaving the second line continiously open. All seems
to be okay now.
It was a really wierd problem though, yesterday internet access stopped i
tried to use putty to telnet into the server and it wouldn't let me log on.
(it hung after i put in the username). I logged in locally and restarted the
isdn service and all worked fine again. Lets hope it doesn't happen again
Thanks all
Hywel
Imran
<i...@house-from-hell.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>(re the demise of de.alt.comm.isdn4linux)
>
>I guess I need to subscribe to the ML. I don't like doing this, I
>already get about 70 emails a day due to ML subscriptions. I don't want
>to filter in case I miss something I actually want to see. I find the
>news interface suits me better. Ah well.
You can also read it via the isdn4linux website:
http://www.isdn4linux.de/listarch/
Imran
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Mike Bristow
L. Whiteside <li...@whitesound.com> wrote:
> How did you know this - do you monitor the control group?
$ fetch ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/control/de/de.alt.comm.isdn4linux.Z
Receiving de.alt.comm.isdn4linux.Z (2782 bytes): 100%
2782 bytes transferred in 0.0 seconds (1.31 MBps)
$ zcat de.alt.comm.isdn4linux.Z
[ previous articles and boring headers snipped ]
From mode...@dana.de Tue Jul 17 15:45:31 2001
From: mode...@dana.de
Sender: mode...@dana.de
X-Sender: ralf.d...@dana.de
Reply-To: mode...@dana.de
Newsgroups: de.admin.news.announce,de.alt.admin,de.alt.comm.isdn4linux
Followup-To: de.admin.news.misc
Subject: cmsg rmgroup de.alt.comm.isdn4linux
Control: rmgroup de.alt.comm.isdn4linux
Approved: mode...@dana.de
Message-ID: <rmgroup-de.alt.comm....@dana.de>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 00:00:00 +0200
X-Info: ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/pgpcontrol/README.html
ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/pgpcontrol/README
X-PGP-Key: 0xD3033C99
X-PGP-Sig: 2.6.3ia From,Sender,Newsgroups,Followup-To,Subject,Control,Approved,Message-ID,Date
iQCVAwUBO0P8eHU26rXTAzyZAQEyqAQAiWxiQagfAtCCeOrl0K8A/3Z7GJy0vf66
kraSdQlZnBT2i74XEkVklvJuSeY6EF6R41jg+3LzRuSlPDdkvWiRNWb6vTP95e3o
NX5lnbwuUVndv5/DZIvIhi7N16k8PdoVsUMuSU5oiKHTYUBG9UXlakxlrveZgoGd
hJ5WUw4AsqM=
=Pvlb
Please remove de.alt.comm.isdn4linux.
Its deletion has passed its CfV on 2001-06-19 with 175:13 votes.
Es gab gegen die durch die Umbenennung implizierte Löschung keine
Proteste in de.alt.admin.
[ snip ]
--
Mike Bristow, seebitwopie
Ian Northeast
>
> On Mon, 03 Sep 2001 21:00:55 GMT, c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>
> >In uk.comp.os.linux L. Whiteside <li...@whitesound.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 22:30:05 +0100, "Hywel Burris"
> >> <buz...@buzzard2.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just over a month ago, demon appear to have dropped the
> >> de.alt.comm.isdn4linux newsgroup - so far with no explanation. Otherwise
> >> I'd have suggested you ask there. I wonder what else Demon have dropped
> >> without saying anything?
> >
> >It was removed by the .de usenet committee in accordance with their
> >procedures. Demon just obeyed a correctly formatted PGP signed rmgroup.
> >
> >I have no idea why, there is probably some .de equivalent of
> >uk.net.news.config where you could ask.
>
> Thanks for this - much more helpful than the response from demon :
>
> > It appears that we do not / no longer carry de.alt.comm.isdn4linux
> > You can email newsm...@demon.net to request that we carry this.
>
> And the email to newsmaster seems to have disappeared into a black hole.
>
> How did you know this - do you monitor the control group? As I only
> really read the english posts, not understanding German I may have missed
> some kind of announcement on the list.
>
> Does anyone know if there is another isdn4linux group or mailing list?
As per the link in Imran's very helpful reply to one of my posts in this
thread, the newsgroup is now de.comp.os.unix.linux.isdn, but is almost
100% in German (and I don't think they say that English posts are
welcome any more). The mailing list can be located at
http://www.isdn4linux.de/faq/i4lfaq-4.html#ss4.5. I subscribed to the
digest form last night; although I had a positive acknowledgement I
havn't had an email yet (but it's <24 hours). English postings appear
still to be welcome here (although the same page still lists the old
newsgroup). This ML is the same as the old NG; they used to be gated
together.
Regards, Ian