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Richard Buckle

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Nov 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/3/00
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Peter Ceresole <pe...@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Pa...@pdchem.demon.co.uk (Paul Davis) wrote:
>
> >When I examine the decoded e-mails on my machine using
> >a primitive text editor, I am horrified to see that after
> >the body of the message, there is often a large quantity
> >of unrelated material which can be identified as
> >fragments of old documents, e-mails etc
>
> Word is famous for doing this. I'm not sure what can be done about it.

You can find patches to cure this at
<http://www.microsoft.com/mac/download/>
Click the "Patches and Updates" tab.

Richard.

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Paul Davis

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Nov 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/4/00
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In article <031120002121486140%rich...@sailmaker.co.uk>
rich...@sailmaker.co.uk "Richard Buckle" writes:

> Peter Ceresole <pe...@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Pa...@pdchem.demon.co.uk (Paul Davis) wrote:
> >
> > >When I examine the decoded e-mails on my machine using
> > >a primitive text editor, I am horrified to see that after
> > >the body of the message, there is often a large quantity
> > >of unrelated material which can be identified as
> > >fragments of old documents, e-mails etc
> >
> > Word is famous for doing this. I'm not sure what can be done about it.
>
> You can find patches to cure this at
> <http://www.microsoft.com/mac/download/>
> Click the "Patches and Updates" tab.
>

Thank you for this Richard, it's exactly what I need.

The actual information about the "Unwanted Data patch" is buried
quite deeply wthin the MS website, and I failed to find it using its
search facility. Considering the potential seriousness of this flaw,
I'm surprised it's not much better known.

-Paul
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Simon Slavin

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Nov 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/6/00
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In article <973346...@pdchem.demon.co.uk>,
Pa...@pdchem.demon.co.uk (Paul Davis) wrote:

>The actual information about the "Unwanted Data patch" is buried
>quite deeply wthin the MS website, and I failed to find it using its
>search facility. Considering the potential seriousness of this flaw,
>I'm surprised it's not much better known.

The people who care about the problem have pretty-much already
decided not to use Word or Excel. Both programs include lots
of things in your file even after the patch -- the full path
to the document and previous saved versions, for instance.

Roger

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Nov 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/18/00
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I've just bought a new G4, my first Mac, and besides Word, what other
good (up to date) word processors are there? I know only about WP3.5, and
some shareware programs, but they don't export or import Word, RTF or WP
documents.

Roger

Paul Davis

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Nov 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/19/00
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In article <3A16E4A2...@paxos.demon.nl>
ro...@paxos.demon.nl "Roger" writes:

> I've just bought a new G4, my first Mac, and besides Word, what other
> good (up to date) word processors are there? I know only about WP3.5, and
> some shareware programs, but they don't export or import Word, RTF or WP
> documents.
>

Roger,
This was discussed at length in MacFixit:-

http://www.macfixit.com/ultimate/Forum2/HTML/005882.html

Simon Slavin

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Nov 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/20/00
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In article <3A16E4A2...@paxos.demon.nl>,
Roger <ro...@paxos.demon.nl> wrote:

> I've just bought a new G4, my first Mac, and besides Word, what other
> good (up to date) word processors are there? I know only about WP3.5, and
> some shareware programs, but they don't export or import Word, RTF or WP
> documents.

I like AppleWorks.

AppleWorks imports and exports RTF. Generally you use RTF as a
lingua-franca: use one WP package to export the file as an RTF file,
then read this file into the other WP package. That way, everyone
only needs to write one import/export filter.

Importing and exporting Word files is almost impossible: Microsoft
keep changing the format and don't document it.

Simon.
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Peter Ceresole

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Nov 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/21/00
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In article <B63F58B6...@10.0.1.2>,
sla...@hearsay.demon.co.uk@localhost (Simon Slavin) wrote:

>Importing and exporting Word files is almost impossible: Microsoft
>keep changing the format and don't document it.

The best bet is to see if you can buy an ancient copy of Word for very
little money. Several years ago I got a copy of 5.1a, which is a 68k
version and is actually quite a nice wordpro. It was also (by the time I
got it) extremely cheap. You can then add to it freely downloadable M$
translators which mean that it will read any Word file for Mac or PC, later
than Word 2... up to Word 2001. It won't handle everything, so for instance
there are graphic embedding functions in Word 6 onwards that will cause 5.1
to fail. But it will read any Word file that's come *my* way, and convert
it to RTF for example. Trying to get habitual Word users to send you RTF
files can be a losing game...

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Peter

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