problems forwarding from mydomain/worldway.net to demon
Martin Reed
forwarding via worldway.net (using mydomain.com service)? Been happening
to a couple of domains I use at mydomain for more than a week.
Forwarding to other non-Demon addresses from mydomain works fine. Any
thoughts, please?
cheers,
Martin Reed <mar...@oldbakery.net>
Mark Booth
Martin Reed <mar...@oldbakery.net> writes
>Anyone else suffering from very slow (up to hours or failure) mail
>forwarding via worldway.net (using mydomain.com service)? Been happening
>to a couple of domains I use at mydomain for more than a week.
Yup me too, I first discovered it on Monday evening, and worked out that
I have been having this problem since the middle of last week. I had
noticed a lull in incoming emails, but assumed that it was the normal
ebb and flow.
>Forwarding to other non-Demon addresses from mydomain works fine. Any
>thoughts, please?
Yes, I switched redirection to freeserve and that has been Ok. It seems
that I have lost little email, but it seems like some has.
Mydomain have been reporting 'having problems' but been little help
otherwise. Similarly Demons helpdesk completely misread my problem
report, and didn't respond to my clarification.
I have finally (tonight) got the final bounce from worldway about a test
message I sent on Tuesday. It says:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients.
The following address(es) failed:
tes...@anang.demon.co.uk:
(generated from test...@anang.com):
SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM:
<ma...@anang.com>:
host punt-2.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.6]:
451 Nameserver timeout during parsing:
retry timeout exceeded
------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------
Return-path: <ma...@anang.com>
Received: from [195.92.195.172] (helo=cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk)
by darwin with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #3)
id 13EayZ-0005bi-00
for test...@anang.com; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 17:16:11 +0000
Received: from [195.92.67.23] (helo=mail18.svr.pol.co.uk)
by cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0)
id 13EayY-00000S-00
for test...@anang.com; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:16:10 +0100
Received: from modem-141.colorado.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.57.141]
helo=anang.com)
by mail18.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0)
id 13EayY-0005HA-00
for test...@anang.com; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:16:10 +0100
Message-ID: <N2oSehDP...@anang.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:15:59 +0100
To: test...@anang.com
From: Mark Booth <ma...@anang.com>
Subject: Testing
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U
<e0pNFZk6Iz1eKiJKeIwwAhBad9>
Testing
--
If the world were an oyster, it would be mine.......
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I have forwarded this to both "sup...@mydomain.com" and
"help...@demon.net", and eagerly await their conclusions. *8')
Take care,
Mark..........
--
If the world were an oyster, it would be mine.......
Mike Pellatt
<mark...@anang.com> wrote:
[ snip ]
>I have forwarded this to both "sup...@mydomain.com" and
>"help...@demon.net", and eagerly await their conclusions. *8')
"Mail and DNS are not supported services" ??
--
Mike Pellatt
Mark Booth
In article <ytZtI5AE...@anang.com> on Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Mark Booth
<mark...@anang.com> writes
>I have finally (tonight) got the final bounce from worldway about a test
>message I sent on Tuesday. It says:
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
>
>A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients.
>The following address(es) failed:
>
> tes...@anang.demon.co.uk:
> (generated from test...@anang.com):
> SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM:
> <ma...@anang.com>:
> host punt-2.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.6]:
> 451 Nameserver timeout during parsing:
> retry timeout exceeded
...
>I have forwarded this to both "sup...@mydomain.com" and
>"help...@demon.net", and eagerly await their conclusions. *8')
I got a response from Demon second line support:
>This indicates that the DNS settings relating to mail server(s) at
>worldway.net are rather broken. Not only is the hostname of the
>sending server invalid, making it impossible to identify the source of
>the bounce message, but its SOA record points to a NS that is not
>authoritative for it. I would recommend contacting the administrator
>of the domain and getting them to fix it.
I have copied this to mydomain.com and I am hoping it will get corrected
soon.
Richard Clayton
<mark...@anang.com> writes
>A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients.
>The following address(es) failed:
>
> tes...@anang.demon.co.uk:
> (generated from test...@anang.com):
> SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM:
> <ma...@anang.com>:
> host punt-2.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.6]:
> 451 Nameserver timeout during parsing:
> retry timeout exceeded
This usually (albeit not invariably) means that a name server that is
supposed to be authoritative for a domain is denying that it is.
You need to talk to the hostmaster for anang.com
Usually (and in my experience invariably) there will now follow a
certain amount of denial from said hostmaster -- until eventually the
penny drops and the misconfiguration is corrected.
It is indeed true that this type of misconfiguration does not affect
many systems, however it is extremely unwise for anyone to rely upon
others working around your errors.
--
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Paul Black
> This usually (albeit not invariably) means that a name server that is
> supposed to be authoritative for a domain is denying that it is.
The quick check I did suggests that all 4 servers for anang.com believe
they are authoratitive.
> It is indeed true that this type of misconfiguration does not affect
> many systems, however it is extremely unwise for anyone to rely upon
> others working around your errors.
Be liberal what you accept ...
Paul
Paul Black
Be liberal in what you accept ...
Paul
Richard Clayton
<pa...@canix.co.uk> writes
>Richard Clayton <ric...@turnpike.com> wrote:
>> This usually (albeit not invariably) means that a name server that is
>> supposed to be authoritative for a domain is denying that it is.
>
>The quick check I did suggests that all 4 servers for anang.com believe
>they are authoratitive.
They may have fixed something... when I tried earlier on I found several
not responding at all :-(
I wonder if email is still delayed ?
>> It is indeed true that this type of misconfiguration does not affect
>> many systems, however it is extremely unwise for anyone to rely upon
>> others working around your errors.
>
>Be liberal in what you accept ...
A good principle ... but only half a quote. It is not something that can
easily be enforced upon the rest of the Internet, who may have their own
problems and priorities.
Martin Reed
I had a weasel moment - I've changed the worldway email forwarding to
another ISP (Portland) where I've got yet more email forwarding already
in place (VISP1). Despite the string and wax approach, the double
indirection is working a treat (270+ "lost" emails turned up).
If worldway don't sort themselves out soon I'll probably just shift the
whole lot (tedious), despite the fact that I like the actual service
(specifically the realtime nature of the updates).
cheers,
Martin Reed <mar...@oldbakery.net>
Brian {Hamilton Kelly}
mar...@oldbakery.net "Martin Reed" writes:
> Thanks go to Mark for getting more info than I managed! In the meantime,
> I had a weasel moment - I've changed the worldway email forwarding to
> another ISP (Portland) where I've got yet more email forwarding already
> in place (VISP1). Despite the string and wax approach, the double
> indirection is working a treat (270+ "lost" emails turned up).
Have you any "real-live people" addresses @portland.co.uk whom I could
contact, since ab...@portland.co.uk seems to be a black-hole --- at least
as far as making reports of *continued* UCE from orinoco.portland.co.uk.
(Sent to the newsgroup rather than mailing Martin, on the premise that
he'd probably not notice it if he's getting *that* many e-mails :-)
--
Brian {Hamilton Kelly} b...@dsl.co.uk
"We have gone from a world of concentrated knowledge and wisdom to one of
distributed ignorance. And we know and understand less while being incr-
easingly capable." Prof. Peter Cochrane, BT Labs
Martin Reed
<b...@dsl.co.uk> writes
>In article <jnkttLAP...@oldbakery.demon.co.uk>
> mar...@oldbakery.net "Martin Reed" writes:
>
>> Thanks go to Mark for getting more info than I managed! In the meantime,
>> I had a weasel moment - I've changed the worldway email forwarding to
>> another ISP (Portland) where I've got yet more email forwarding already
>> in place (VISP1). Despite the string and wax approach, the double
>> indirection is working a treat (270+ "lost" emails turned up).
>
>Have you any "real-live people" addresses @portland.co.uk whom I could
>contact, since ab...@portland.co.uk seems to be a black-hole --- at least
>as far as making reports of *continued* UCE from orinoco.portland.co.uk.
>
>(Sent to the newsgroup rather than mailing Martin, on the premise that
>he'd probably not notice it if he's getting *that* many e-mails :-)
>
I guess I'm well in to email junkiehood, 'cos about 300 a day is
"normal".
cheers,
Martin Reed <mar...@oldbakery.net>