You lucky free webbers!
Steve Linford
You lucky Demon users, 5mb free webspace, you just ftp in and bung your
files into place - no messing around with TelNet, what a service! Wish WE
had service like that!
Who are we? We're Demon COMMERCIAL users, we pay 25 quid a month for the
same 5mb you guys get for free, only we have to TelNet our stuff around,
chmod this, chmod that, cp incoming/blah/blah... cool huh?
So you lucky guys, bask in the glow of your free website with your live
drop-in directories and TelNet-free days! We'll just chmod around here
wondering what nw.demon has that www.demon doesn't and why us commercial
users pay more to get less.
... until us commercial lot wake up and remember the word we are looking
for to describe paying for what is now free. "Suc..rrs, Suck..ors,
Suck..ers", no, I can't remember it.
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John Hall
In article <AE7B19D5...@ultratec.demon.co.uk>, Steve Linford
<st...@ultradesign.com> writes
>You lucky Demon users, 5mb free webspace, you just ftp in and bung your
>files into place - no messing around with TelNet, what a service! Wish WE
>had service like that!
>
>Who are we? We're Demon COMMERCIAL users, we pay 25 quid a month for the
>same 5mb you guys get for free, only we have to TelNet our stuff around,
>chmod this, chmod that, cp incoming/blah/blah... cool huh?
Is there anything preventing you having 5MB of free workspace under
www.ultratec.demon.co.uk (having looked at your message's headers)? Yes,
you'd lose the advantage of the www.ultradesign.com name, of course.
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Oliver Smith
On Fri, 04 Oct 1996 19:45:25 +0000, st...@ultradesign.com (Steve Linford)
wrote:
>... until us commercial lot wake up and remember the word we are looking
>for to describe paying for what is now free. "Suc..rrs, Suck..ors,
>Suck..ers", no, I can't remember it.
Erm - hello?
So you how come you don't have access to the CGI or Perl scripts that
Commercial users are allowed to create? Or support via the web support
team?
If you are having to "chmod" a lot, then something is wrong... "chmod" is
CHange MODes, the Unix equivalent of "attrib". It determines who can
read/write files that you've created.
Why not get your monies worth and contact the web support team and air
your grievance with them, and see if you can't get them to fix it or tell
you which piece of magic you're missing.
The system you have is more complex because of the "for your money"
features you're getting :-).
Oliver
Richard Clayton
>Who are we? We're Demon COMMERCIAL users, we pay 25 quid a month for the
>same 5mb you guys get for free, only we have to TelNet our stuff around,
>chmod this, chmod that, cp incoming/blah/blah... cool huh?
I use htm2 and that avoids all the chmod stuff... I'm sure I read about
it in a FAQ somewhere...
I agree the cp is a pain though :)
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Cliff Stanford
>drop-in directories and TelNet-free days! We'll just chmod around here
>wondering what nw.demon has that www.demon doesn't and why us commercial
>users pay more to get less.
As always, technology leapfrogs forward. Commercial web users can
expect to get the new-style server as soon as possible. The important
thing, of course, is to ensure that you don't *lose* any functionality
in any changeover.
Regards,
Cliff.
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Nicolai P Guba
j...@blodwen.demon.co.uk (James R Grinter) writes:
>
> In article <AE7B19D5...@ultratec.demon.co.uk> st...@ultradesign.com (Steve Linford) writes:
> > Who are we? We're Demon COMMERCIAL users, we pay 25 quid a month for the
> > same 5mb you guys get for free, only we have to TelNet our stuff around,
> > chmod this, chmod that, cp incoming/blah/blah... cool huh?
>
> plus the ability to run your own cgi scripts, the ability to create
> data files, access controls, full logs, telephone support, and
> probably loads of other stuff that I can't be bothered to list at 2am.
Which is way cool. Almost like running your own web server but having
the admin hassle shifted onto somebody else...
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Steve Linford
In article <QvZ9WGA4...@malaga.demon.co.uk>,
Cliff Stanford <cl...@demon.net> wrote:
> As always, technology leapfrogs forward. Commercial web users can
> expect to get the new-style server as soon as possible.
Great, thanks Cliff!
Ivan A. Beveridge
Steve Linford (st...@ultradesign.com) wrote:
: You lucky Demon users, 5mb free webspace, you just ftp in and bung your
: files into place - no messing around with TelNet, what a service! Wish WE
: had service like that!
: Who are we? We're Demon COMMERCIAL users, we pay 25 quid a month for the
: same 5mb you guys get for free, only we have to TelNet our stuff around,
: chmod this, chmod that, cp incoming/blah/blah... cool huh?
Well - if you like, you can use www.ultratec.demon.co.uk, and pay the
25UKP/month for me to have a WWW site, and the ability to create CGI
scripts, have full logging, etc. That way we both win, no?
Ivan
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