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Tim Lamb
Aug 9, 2020, 5:45:13 AM8/9/20
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Not sure if this has been covered.
My d.c.u mail ceased at end of July. Namesco are pressing me to maintain
the account to benefit from access to historic mail.
At £50.00/year, I'm not sure this is a bargain!
I have the last 4 year mails archived with Thunderbird but wonder if
there is a *low tech.* way of accessing and storing the d.c.u mail
created using Turnpike now held by Namesco. My renewal date is early
September so a little time in hand.
--
Tim Lamb
My d.c.u mail ceased at end of July. Namesco are pressing me to maintain
the account to benefit from access to historic mail.
At £50.00/year, I'm not sure this is a bargain!
I have the last 4 year mails archived with Thunderbird but wonder if
there is a *low tech.* way of accessing and storing the d.c.u mail
created using Turnpike now held by Namesco. My renewal date is early
September so a little time in hand.
--
Tim Lamb
Andy
Aug 9, 2020, 10:24:39 AM8/9/20
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In message <oTh3BtXJ...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
<t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote
Are you sure that there is ANY mail held by them? I thought the normal
Turnpike setup was that the mail was downloaded from the server, plonked
in your MSPOOL, and then deleted from the server.
--
Andy Taylor [President, Treasurer & Editor of the Austrian Philatelic Society].
Visit www dot austrianphilately dot com
<t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote
Turnpike setup was that the mail was downloaded from the server, plonked
in your MSPOOL, and then deleted from the server.
--
Andy Taylor [President, Treasurer & Editor of the Austrian Philatelic Society].
Visit www dot austrianphilately dot com
Tim Lamb
Aug 9, 2020, 12:40:21 PM8/9/20
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In message <x3NIZXA$NAMf...@kitzbuhel.co.uk>, Andy
<an...@kitzbuhel.co.uk> writes
*Please remember, if you do not renew your services on or before the
expiry
date you risk losing the services and all data associated with them,
such
as the contents of mailboxes and databases.*
How would I go about looking?
I switched to Thunderbird rather than struggle with the Turnpike mail
workaround and am very out of technological touch.
--
Tim Lamb
<an...@kitzbuhel.co.uk> writes
>In message <oTh3BtXJ...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
><t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote
>>Not sure if this has been covered.
>>
>>My d.c.u mail ceased at end of July. Namesco are pressing me to
>>maintain the account to benefit from access to historic mail.
>>At £50.00/year, I'm not sure this is a bargain!
>>
>>I have the last 4 year mails archived with Thunderbird but wonder if
>>there is a *low tech.* way of accessing and storing the d.c.u mail
>>created using Turnpike now held by Namesco. My renewal date is early
>>September so a little time in hand.
>
>Are you sure that there is ANY mail held by them? I thought the normal
>Turnpike setup was that the mail was downloaded from the server,
>plonked in your MSPOOL, and then deleted from the server.
:-) No. Only that they keep pressing me to renew using that as a reason!
><t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote
>>Not sure if this has been covered.
>>
>>My d.c.u mail ceased at end of July. Namesco are pressing me to
>>maintain the account to benefit from access to historic mail.
>>At £50.00/year, I'm not sure this is a bargain!
>>
>>I have the last 4 year mails archived with Thunderbird but wonder if
>>there is a *low tech.* way of accessing and storing the d.c.u mail
>>created using Turnpike now held by Namesco. My renewal date is early
>>September so a little time in hand.
>
>Are you sure that there is ANY mail held by them? I thought the normal
>Turnpike setup was that the mail was downloaded from the server,
>plonked in your MSPOOL, and then deleted from the server.
*Please remember, if you do not renew your services on or before the
expiry
date you risk losing the services and all data associated with them,
such
as the contents of mailboxes and databases.*
How would I go about looking?
I switched to Thunderbird rather than struggle with the Turnpike mail
workaround and am very out of technological touch.
--
Tim Lamb
J. P. Gilliver (John)
Aug 9, 2020, 2:58:43 PM8/9/20
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On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 at 10:44:41, Tim Lamb <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
"created" using TP - do you mean outgoing (from you) then?
Outgoing: Turnpike keeps a copy anyway of everything you send - I've so
far found no way to turn it off; some years (decades?) ago when this was
discussed in DIST, someone suggested changing _where_ it puts the copies
- which you _can_ do - to its "Wastebasket", which I did. But copies of
outgoing mails aren't removed thence unless you manually do so, unlike
incoming mails you've deleted (which do go when you close Turnpike
Explorer). Of course you may _have_ manually deleted them, but it'd have
to be something you deliberately did, in which case you presumably don't
want them anyway. (I do it at irregular intervals - mainly when I _do_
look in the Wastebasket for something I sent, and spot how many
sent-junk-copies are in there. [It saves newsgroup posts you send there
too.])
Incoming: Turnpike can't collect by IMAP (though can be an IMAP
server!), AFAIK, so - unless you changed the default setting in TP -
they'd have been deleted from the Namesco server on collection anyway,
so I doubt those "historic" ones exist on there. Unless they're now
claiming otherwise. (They might keep them, for legal arse-covering
reasons, _some_ while after your [POP] system tells their system to
delete them as it's downloaded them OK, but I'd be _slightly_ surprised
if that's over a year or two.) I _suspect_ the offer is made assuming
people collect - and manage - by IMAP, which your more recent usage
using Thunderbird might have been - but you say you've got those anyway.
I may be wrong.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
It's OK to be tight on
The seafront at Brighton
But I say, by Jove
Watch out if it's Hove.
- Sister Monica Joan, quoted by Jennifer Worth (author of the Call the
Midwife books, quoted in Radio Times 19-25 January 2013)
wrote:
Outgoing: Turnpike keeps a copy anyway of everything you send - I've so
far found no way to turn it off; some years (decades?) ago when this was
discussed in DIST, someone suggested changing _where_ it puts the copies
- which you _can_ do - to its "Wastebasket", which I did. But copies of
outgoing mails aren't removed thence unless you manually do so, unlike
incoming mails you've deleted (which do go when you close Turnpike
Explorer). Of course you may _have_ manually deleted them, but it'd have
to be something you deliberately did, in which case you presumably don't
want them anyway. (I do it at irregular intervals - mainly when I _do_
look in the Wastebasket for something I sent, and spot how many
sent-junk-copies are in there. [It saves newsgroup posts you send there
too.])
Incoming: Turnpike can't collect by IMAP (though can be an IMAP
server!), AFAIK, so - unless you changed the default setting in TP -
they'd have been deleted from the Namesco server on collection anyway,
so I doubt those "historic" ones exist on there. Unless they're now
claiming otherwise. (They might keep them, for legal arse-covering
reasons, _some_ while after your [POP] system tells their system to
delete them as it's downloaded them OK, but I'd be _slightly_ surprised
if that's over a year or two.) I _suspect_ the offer is made assuming
people collect - and manage - by IMAP, which your more recent usage
using Thunderbird might have been - but you say you've got those anyway.
I may be wrong.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
It's OK to be tight on
The seafront at Brighton
But I say, by Jove
Watch out if it's Hove.
- Sister Monica Joan, quoted by Jennifer Worth (author of the Call the
Midwife books, quoted in Radio Times 19-25 January 2013)
J. P. Gilliver (John)
Aug 9, 2020, 3:12:46 PM8/9/20
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On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 at 17:34:45, Tim Lamb <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
[]
Most also have an option _not_ to tell the server to delete - in
Turnpike, it's Configure, Email Transfer, select the right POP account,
Edit, Mirror; if it's set to Fetch all, which is the default, then it
will tell the server to delete.
Recent (as in maybe last decade or so?) changes in legislation might
have made many ISPs back up copies, for a while at least, but (a) those
may well not be accessible to customers, (b) if they are keeping them
for that sort of reason, they're going to do so after you cease to be a
customer anyway.
most people use these days).
connected (having Turnpike Connect not running - or with its phone
symbol down so the four coloured bars are grey - is _probably_
sufficient, but turn off your wifi/unplug your network cable to be sure
[check whether a browser can load a webpage]), then you have all your
historical emails stored in Turnpike. If you have, I'm pretty sure
there's no way Namesco can delete them.
>
There's also the question of how you'd transfer them from Turnpike, if
you want to protect against the time you can't get a machine that can
run it. This has been discussed at length recently on DIST, one of the
interesting ways being to use Turnpike's ability to be an IMAP _server_.
enough experience to even recognise it as knowledge, let alone as useful
knowledge. - Wolf K <wol...@sympatico.ca>, in alt.windows7.general, 2017-4-30
wrote:
[]
>>Are you sure that there is ANY mail held by them? I thought the normal
>>Turnpike setup was that the mail was downloaded from the server,
>>plonked in your MSPOOL, and then deleted from the server.
That's certainly the default, in Turnpike and most other POP clients.
>>Turnpike setup was that the mail was downloaded from the server,
>>plonked in your MSPOOL, and then deleted from the server.
Most also have an option _not_ to tell the server to delete - in
Turnpike, it's Configure, Email Transfer, select the right POP account,
Edit, Mirror; if it's set to Fetch all, which is the default, then it
will tell the server to delete.
Recent (as in maybe last decade or so?) changes in legislation might
have made many ISPs back up copies, for a while at least, but (a) those
may well not be accessible to customers, (b) if they are keeping them
for that sort of reason, they're going to do so after you cease to be a
customer anyway.
>
>:-) No. Only that they keep pressing me to renew using that as a reason!
>
>*Please remember, if you do not renew your services on or before the
>expiry
>date you risk losing the services and all data associated with them,
>such
>as the contents of mailboxes and databases.*
That sounds like they're talking about IMAP connections (which I think
>:-) No. Only that they keep pressing me to renew using that as a reason!
>
>*Please remember, if you do not renew your services on or before the
>expiry
>date you risk losing the services and all data associated with them,
>such
>as the contents of mailboxes and databases.*
most people use these days).
>
>How would I go about looking?
>
>I switched to Thunderbird rather than struggle with the Turnpike mail
>workaround and am very out of technological touch.
>
If you can still see your historic emails in Turnpike when you're not
>How would I go about looking?
>
>I switched to Thunderbird rather than struggle with the Turnpike mail
>workaround and am very out of technological touch.
>
connected (having Turnpike Connect not running - or with its phone
symbol down so the four coloured bars are grey - is _probably_
sufficient, but turn off your wifi/unplug your network cable to be sure
[check whether a browser can load a webpage]), then you have all your
historical emails stored in Turnpike. If you have, I'm pretty sure
there's no way Namesco can delete them.
>
There's also the question of how you'd transfer them from Turnpike, if
you want to protect against the time you can't get a machine that can
run it. This has been discussed at length recently on DIST, one of the
interesting ways being to use Turnpike's ability to be an IMAP _server_.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
What's really worth knowing is for the most part unlearnable until you have
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
enough experience to even recognise it as knowledge, let alone as useful
knowledge. - Wolf K <wol...@sympatico.ca>, in alt.windows7.general, 2017-4-30
Martin Brown
Aug 9, 2020, 3:46:22 PM8/9/20
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On 09/08/2020 17:34, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <x3NIZXA$NAMf...@kitzbuhel.co.uk>, Andy
> <an...@kitzbuhel.co.uk> writes
>> In message <oTh3BtXJ...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
>> <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote
>>> Not sure if this has been covered.
>>>
>>> My d.c.u mail ceased at end of July. Namesco are pressing me to
>>> maintain the account to benefit from access to historic mail.
>>> At £50.00/year, I'm not sure this is a bargain!
>>>
>>> I have the last 4 year mails archived with Thunderbird but wonder if
>>> there is a *low tech.* way of accessing and storing the d.c.u mail
>>> created using Turnpike now held by Namesco. My renewal date is early
>>> September so a little time in hand.
>>
>> Are you sure that there is ANY mail held by them? I thought the normal
>> Turnpike setup was that the mail was downloaded from the server,
>> plonked in your MSPOOL, and then deleted from the server.
ISTR TP deleted stuff off the server after 30 days or whatever other
> In message <x3NIZXA$NAMf...@kitzbuhel.co.uk>, Andy
> <an...@kitzbuhel.co.uk> writes
>> In message <oTh3BtXJ...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
>> <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote
>>> Not sure if this has been covered.
>>>
>>> My d.c.u mail ceased at end of July. Namesco are pressing me to
>>> maintain the account to benefit from access to historic mail.
>>> At £50.00/year, I'm not sure this is a bargain!
>>>
>>> I have the last 4 year mails archived with Thunderbird but wonder if
>>> there is a *low tech.* way of accessing and storing the d.c.u mail
>>> created using Turnpike now held by Namesco. My renewal date is early
>>> September so a little time in hand.
>>
>> Are you sure that there is ANY mail held by them? I thought the normal
>> Turnpike setup was that the mail was downloaded from the server,
>> plonked in your MSPOOL, and then deleted from the server.
delay you set.
>
> :-) No. Only that they keep pressing me to renew using that as a reason!
>
> *Please remember, if you do not renew your services on or before the expiry
> date you risk losing the services and all data associated with them, such
> as the contents of mailboxes and databases.*
It might amuse you to take a look to see if your website is alive, dead
> :-) No. Only that they keep pressing me to renew using that as a reason!
>
> *Please remember, if you do not renew your services on or before the expiry
> date you risk losing the services and all data associated with them, such
> as the contents of mailboxes and databases.*
or zombie. Mine was killed in the exorcism of 28/7 but spontaneously
rose from the dead on Monday 3/8 they used impure silver bullets!
> How would I go about looking?
>
> I switched to Thunderbird rather than struggle with the Turnpike mail
> workaround and am very out of technological touch.
yours) I would strip mine what is there and archive it to CD.
I have given much the same advice to Tesco refugees when they zapped
email. I can see no point in retaining access to historic data for an
ongoing fee. FWIW I continue to use Namesco for my email but now via a
domain under my control.
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
John Hall
Aug 9, 2020, 4:10:42 PM8/9/20
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In message <rgpjqb$18sk$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> writes
Surely the 30 days deletion was housekeeping done by Demon rather than
by TP, and only happened if you chose to configure TP to leave email on
the server after downloading it. (Which very few people chose to do.)
--
John Hall
You can divide people into two categories:
those who divide people into two categories and those who don't
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> writes
>On 09/08/2020 17:34, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <x3NIZXA$NAMf...@kitzbuhel.co.uk>, Andy
>><an...@kitzbuhel.co.uk> writes
>>> In message <oTh3BtXJ...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
>>><t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote
>>>> Not sure if this has been covered.
>>>>
>>>> My d.c.u mail ceased at end of July. Namesco are pressing me to
>>>>maintain the account to benefit from access to historic mail.
>>>> At £50.00/year, I'm not sure this is a bargain!
>>>>
>>>> I have the last 4 year mails archived with Thunderbird but wonder
>> In message <x3NIZXA$NAMf...@kitzbuhel.co.uk>, Andy
>><an...@kitzbuhel.co.uk> writes
>>> In message <oTh3BtXJ...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
>>><t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote
>>>> Not sure if this has been covered.
>>>>
>>>> My d.c.u mail ceased at end of July. Namesco are pressing me to
>>>>maintain the account to benefit from access to historic mail.
>>>> At £50.00/year, I'm not sure this is a bargain!
>>>>
>>>> I have the last 4 year mails archived with Thunderbird but wonder
>>>>there is a *low tech.* way of accessing and storing the d.c.u mail
>>>>created using Turnpike now held by Namesco. My renewal date is early
>>>>September so a little time in hand.
>>>
>>> Are you sure that there is ANY mail held by them? I thought the
>>>normal Turnpike setup was that the mail was downloaded from the
>>>server, plonked in your MSPOOL, and then deleted from the server.
>
>ISTR TP deleted stuff off the server after 30 days or whatever other
>delay you set.
<snip>
>>>>created using Turnpike now held by Namesco. My renewal date is early
>>>>September so a little time in hand.
>>>
>>> Are you sure that there is ANY mail held by them? I thought the
>>>normal Turnpike setup was that the mail was downloaded from the
>>>server, plonked in your MSPOOL, and then deleted from the server.
>
>ISTR TP deleted stuff off the server after 30 days or whatever other
>delay you set.
Surely the 30 days deletion was housekeeping done by Demon rather than
by TP, and only happened if you chose to configure TP to leave email on
the server after downloading it. (Which very few people chose to do.)
--
John Hall
You can divide people into two categories:
those who divide people into two categories and those who don't
J. P. Gilliver (John)
Aug 9, 2020, 4:23:11 PM8/9/20
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On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 at 21:00:12, John Hall <john_...@jhall.co.uk>
wrote:
they bounce them? I can't remember), if you didn't. For most people - as
this was the default setting for most POP clients (and might have been
the _only_ setting for some: I can't remember for the DOS suite, for
example) - the client instructed the server to delete emails as soon as
it (the client) had downloaded them. I think most other ISPs at the time
had a similar policy, with slightly various periods - or, they set a
maximum space for uncollected emails (or both; I think everyone had a
limit, but in some cases higher than would ever be used).
wrote:
>In message <rgpjqb$18sk$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Martin Brown
[]
>>ISTR TP deleted stuff off the server after 30 days or whatever other
>>delay you set.
><snip>
>
>Surely the 30 days deletion was housekeeping done by Demon rather than
>by TP, and only happened if you chose to configure TP to leave email on
>the server after downloading it. (Which very few people chose to do.)
Indeed; Demon deleted emails 30 days after they received them (or did
>>delay you set.
><snip>
>
>Surely the 30 days deletion was housekeeping done by Demon rather than
>by TP, and only happened if you chose to configure TP to leave email on
>the server after downloading it. (Which very few people chose to do.)
they bounce them? I can't remember), if you didn't. For most people - as
this was the default setting for most POP clients (and might have been
the _only_ setting for some: I can't remember for the DOS suite, for
example) - the client instructed the server to delete emails as soon as
it (the client) had downloaded them. I think most other ISPs at the time
had a similar policy, with slightly various periods - or, they set a
maximum space for uncollected emails (or both; I think everyone had a
limit, but in some cases higher than would ever be used).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
Sarcasm: Barbed ire
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
Richard_CC
Aug 9, 2020, 4:30:51 PM8/9/20
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On 09/08/2020 21:00, John Hall wrote:
>
> Surely the 30 days deletion was housekeeping done by Demon rather than
> by TP, and only happened if you chose to configure TP to leave email on
> the server after downloading it. (Which very few people chose to do.)
It was. They introduced a policy to delete anything over 30 days old
>
> Surely the 30 days deletion was housekeeping done by Demon rather than
> by TP, and only happened if you chose to configure TP to leave email on
> the server after downloading it. (Which very few people chose to do.)
whether it was in the 'inbox' or had been filed in subfolders. I tested
it hoping the the rule only applied to inbox.
When most of the world was moving towards imap or webmail, where the
'master copy' sat on a providers server, Demon killed it stone dead and
forced people to use POP3 if they wanted to keep anything.
Not sure paying to access old content is worth anything, contact list is
the thing you need.
Tim Lamb
Aug 9, 2020, 4:36:32 PM8/9/20
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In message <rgpjqb$18sk$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> writes
>On 09/08/2020 17:34, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <x3NIZXA$NAMf...@kitzbuhel.co.uk>, Andy
>><an...@kitzbuhel.co.uk> writes
>>> In message <oTh3BtXJ...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
>>><t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote
>>>> Not sure if this has been covered.
>>>>
>>>> My d.c.u mail ceased at end of July. Namesco are pressing me to
>>>>maintain the account to benefit from access to historic mail.
>>>> At £50.00/year, I'm not sure this is a bargain!
>>>>
>>>> I have the last 4 year mails archived with Thunderbird but wonder
>>>>if there is a *low tech.* way of accessing and storing the d.c.u
>>>>mail created using Turnpike now held by Namesco. My renewal date is
>>>>early September so a little time in hand.
>>>
>>> Are you sure that there is ANY mail held by them? I thought the
>>>normal Turnpike setup was that the mail was downloaded from the
>>>server, plonked in your MSPOOL, and then deleted from the server.
>
>ISTR TP deleted stuff off the server after 30 days or whatever other
>delay you set.
Yes. 30 days.
>> In message <x3NIZXA$NAMf...@kitzbuhel.co.uk>, Andy
>><an...@kitzbuhel.co.uk> writes
>>> In message <oTh3BtXJ...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
>>><t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote
>>>> Not sure if this has been covered.
>>>>
>>>> My d.c.u mail ceased at end of July. Namesco are pressing me to
>>>>maintain the account to benefit from access to historic mail.
>>>> At £50.00/year, I'm not sure this is a bargain!
>>>>
>>>> I have the last 4 year mails archived with Thunderbird but wonder
>>>>if there is a *low tech.* way of accessing and storing the d.c.u
>>>>mail created using Turnpike now held by Namesco. My renewal date is
>>>>early September so a little time in hand.
>>>
>>> Are you sure that there is ANY mail held by them? I thought the
>>>normal Turnpike setup was that the mail was downloaded from the
>>>server, plonked in your MSPOOL, and then deleted from the server.
>
>ISTR TP deleted stuff off the server after 30 days or whatever other
>delay you set.
>>
>> :-) No. Only that they keep pressing me to renew using that as a
>> :reason!
>> *Please remember, if you do not renew your services on or before the
>>expiry
>> date you risk losing the services and all data associated with them, such
>> as the contents of mailboxes and databases.*
>
>It might amuse you to take a look to see if your website is alive, dead
>or zombie. Mine was killed in the exorcism of 28/7 but spontaneously
>rose from the dead on Monday 3/8 they used impure silver bullets!
I don't think I had a website as such. Back in the Demon days one could
>> :-) No. Only that they keep pressing me to renew using that as a
>> :reason!
>> *Please remember, if you do not renew your services on or before the
>>expiry
>> date you risk losing the services and all data associated with them, such
>> as the contents of mailboxes and databases.*
>
>It might amuse you to take a look to see if your website is alive, dead
>or zombie. Mine was killed in the exorcism of 28/7 but spontaneously
>rose from the dead on Monday 3/8 they used impure silver bullets!
upload stuff to an accessible location and allow others to read it. So
not that different. FTP? Now 30 years ago!
>
>> How would I go about looking?
>> I switched to Thunderbird rather than struggle with the Turnpike
>>mail workaround and am very out of technological touch.
>
>Login using their webmail interface to check, but for my money (and
>yours) I would strip mine what is there and archive it to CD.
OK.
>> How would I go about looking?
>> I switched to Thunderbird rather than struggle with the Turnpike
>>mail workaround and am very out of technological touch.
>
>Login using their webmail interface to check, but for my money (and
>yours) I would strip mine what is there and archive it to CD.
>
>I have given much the same advice to Tesco refugees when they zapped
>email. I can see no point in retaining access to historic data for an
>ongoing fee. FWIW I continue to use Namesco for my email but now via a
>domain under my control.
Digging in my Turnpike file system, I have found mail saved along with
>I have given much the same advice to Tesco refugees when they zapped
>email. I can see no point in retaining access to historic data for an
>ongoing fee. FWIW I continue to use Namesco for my email but now via a
>domain under my control.
newsgroup messages when I was expecting it to be separated!
Chasing a gnat perhaps.
Anyway, thanks to all who responded. I'm inclined to let it wither come
September.
>
--
Tim Lamb
Peter Hill
Aug 9, 2020, 4:51:26 PM8/9/20
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local copies but I left it on the server so my phone and laptop could
also see it. I just let their 30 day auto delete do the housekeeping.
Graeme
Aug 19, 2020, 5:24:53 AM8/19/20
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In message <cXzUMiUc...@255soft.uk>, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
<G6...@255soft.uk> writes
within TP : Configure, Options. Mine is set to not delete anything
automatically, so the waste basket only empties when I do so manually.
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Graeme
<G6...@255soft.uk> writes
>
>Outgoing: Turnpike keeps a copy anyway of everything you send - I've so
>far found no way to turn it off; some years (decades?) ago when this was
>discussed in DIST, someone suggested changing _where_ it puts the copies
>- which you _can_ do - to its "Wastebasket", which I did. But copies of
>outgoing mails aren't removed thence unless you manually do so, unlike
>incoming mails you've deleted (which do go when you close Turnpike
>Explorer).
I think deleting incoming mails when you close TP Explorer is a setting
>Outgoing: Turnpike keeps a copy anyway of everything you send - I've so
>far found no way to turn it off; some years (decades?) ago when this was
>discussed in DIST, someone suggested changing _where_ it puts the copies
>- which you _can_ do - to its "Wastebasket", which I did. But copies of
>outgoing mails aren't removed thence unless you manually do so, unlike
>incoming mails you've deleted (which do go when you close Turnpike
>Explorer).
within TP : Configure, Options. Mine is set to not delete anything
automatically, so the waste basket only empties when I do so manually.
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Graeme
J. P. Gilliver (John)
Aug 19, 2020, 4:16:04 PM8/19/20
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_outgoing_ emails, which I've not found any way to do: I can only change
where it puts them. (But making that the Wastebasket doesn't work: it
does indeed put them there, but even if you _do_ have automatic
wastebasket emptying on exit turned on, it only deletes your deleted
incoming emails - the copies it put there of outgoing ones remain until
manually deleted.)
DIST added (-:
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the God who endowed me with sense,
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
reason, and intellect intends me to forego their use". - Gallileo Gallilei
Wm
Aug 28, 2020, 2:55:16 PM8/28/20
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On 09/08/2020 15:09, Andy wrote:
> In message <oTh3BtXJ...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
> <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote
>> Not sure if this has been covered.
>>
>> My d.c.u mail ceased at end of July. Namesco are pressing me to
>> maintain the account to benefit from access to historic mail.
>> At £50.00/year, I'm not sure this is a bargain!
>>
>> I have the last 4 year mails archived with Thunderbird but wonder if
>> there is a *low tech.* way of accessing and storing the d.c.u mail
>> created using Turnpike now held by Namesco. My renewal date is early
>> September so a little time in hand.
>
> Are you sure that there is ANY mail held by them? I thought the normal
> Turnpike setup was that the mail was downloaded from the server, plonked
> in your MSPOOL, and then deleted from the server.
Me too
> In message <oTh3BtXJ...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
> <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote
>> Not sure if this has been covered.
>>
>> My d.c.u mail ceased at end of July. Namesco are pressing me to
>> maintain the account to benefit from access to historic mail.
>> At £50.00/year, I'm not sure this is a bargain!
>>
>> I have the last 4 year mails archived with Thunderbird but wonder if
>> there is a *low tech.* way of accessing and storing the d.c.u mail
>> created using Turnpike now held by Namesco. My renewal date is early
>> September so a little time in hand.
>
> Are you sure that there is ANY mail held by them? I thought the normal
> Turnpike setup was that the mail was downloaded from the server, plonked
> in your MSPOOL, and then deleted from the server.
fx: waves @ Andy and friends
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Wm
Wm
Aug 28, 2020, 3:01:08 PM8/28/20
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On 09/08/2020 20:46, Martin Brown wrote:
> Login using their webmail interface to check, but for my money (and
> yours) I would strip mine what is there and archive it to CD.
To CD ? For decency's sake, sir, what size e-mails have you been sending?
> Login using their webmail interface to check, but for my money (and
> yours) I would strip mine what is there and archive it to CD.
> I have given much the same advice to Tesco refugees when they zapped
> email. I can see no point in retaining access to historic data for an
> ongoing fee. FWIW I continue to use Namesco for my email but now via a
> domain under my control.
in price because of the EUR/GBP exchange rate, ho hum.
fx: waves at Martin
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Wm
Wm
Aug 28, 2020, 3:02:27 PM8/28/20
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On 09/08/2020 21:00, John Hall wrote:
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Wm
Wm
Aug 28, 2020, 3:05:13 PM8/28/20
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seriously crap computer compared to gaming devices.
Storing e-mail is cheap. Just do it.
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Wm
Wm
Aug 28, 2020, 3:07:57 PM8/28/20
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On 09/08/2020 21:35, Tim Lamb wrote:
> Digging in my Turnpike file system, I have found mail saved along with
> newsgroup messages when I was expecting it to be separated!
>
> Chasing a gnat perhaps.
>
> Anyway, thanks to all who responded. I'm inclined to let it wither come
> September.
Or just forward the entire mess to a gmail or similar account. Do you
> newsgroup messages when I was expecting it to be separated!
>
> Chasing a gnat perhaps.
>
> Anyway, thanks to all who responded. I'm inclined to let it wither come
> September.
know how much space those accounts offer these days? You'd need ten
thousand million pics of your grandchildren to edge it. Ish ...
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Wm
Tim Lamb
Aug 29, 2020, 5:21:52 PM8/29/20
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In message <ribkmd$302$4...@dont-email.me>, Wm <wm_o...@yahoo.co.uk>
writes
Sorry chaps. Been away.
Having badgered me all Summer to take on a replacement domain, Namesco
are now badgering me about *avoiding service deletion* by not renewing
payment due in September.
I am curious to learn what their angle will be come September:-)
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Tim Lamb
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Having badgered me all Summer to take on a replacement domain, Namesco
are now badgering me about *avoiding service deletion* by not renewing
payment due in September.
I am curious to learn what their angle will be come September:-)
>
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Tim Lamb
Peter Hill
Sep 2, 2020, 12:57:51 PM9/2/20
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that you don't have a domain that Office365 can collect e-mail for but
they can sell you one of those as well. Do you have to have periods to
buy Tampax?
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