MicroShite and Demon? A match made in Purgatory
T Bruce Tober
Lodon - Informed sources today reported that the long-awaited and much
speculated upon sale of Demon Internet Ltd has been finalised by
representatives of the two companies involved, Demon and MicroSoft.
It is reported that Bill Gaits and Cliff Stanfawd will hold a join press
conference on the Internet to formally announce the deal with is said to
have cost Mr Gaits, not the anticipated £66+ million, but rather £666
Million. Mr Gaits is reported to have off handedly joked that "it's mere
pin money" as he wrote the cheque.
Mr Stanfawd is said to have commented that when he named the company
"Demon" he had Mr Gaits in mind.
Neither man was available to confirm the story.
tbt -- Sign all messages with non-escrowed keys, don't give in to government
tyranny. Commentary at http://www.crecon.demon.co.uk/Escrow.htm
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Malcolm Ogilvie
In article <i+05XAAX...@reporters.net>, T Bruce Tober
<octob...@reporters.net> writes
Lots of messages every day, and all with an 11-line signature which is a
mere 7 more than the recommended standard. Not just that, but his PGP
key comes out in raw text instead of contained within the more usual
grey bar. Why is that?
Malcolm
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Gary Cooper
In article <kQlfpTAK...@indaal.demon.co.uk>
MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk "Malcolm Ogilvie" writes:
> Lots of messages every day, and all with an 11-line signature which is a
> mere 7 more than the recommended standard. Not just that, but his PGP
> key comes out in raw text instead of contained within the more usual
> grey bar. Why is that?
Because he's a fuckwit, obviously.
--
Gary Cooper
Colin Smith.
In article <893794711s...@sunshine.tm>, Richard Ashton
<{R}@sunshine.tm> writes
[snip]
>The moron is a fuckwit jurno, they cannot come any worse, the barrel he
>came out of decomposed long ago in a septic slimey sludge.
>he ha been
>in the killfile for years.
>
>{R}
>
Just think he's been giving you one all these years and you did'nt know,
FOTBL. Never mind {R} there's a new tablet out that will keep you more
upright.
--
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Ian Lynagh
In article <kQlfpTAK...@indaal.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm Ogilvie
<MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> writes
[snipped]
>Not just that, but his PGP
>key comes out in raw text instead of contained within the more usual
>grey bar. Why is that?
Because his key isn't there. Only his Key IDs and fingerprints.
TTFN
Ian
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It's not the hours you put in, it's what you put into the hours.
Thomas Lee
>Lodon - Informed sources today reported that the long-awaited and much
>speculated upon sale of Demon Internet Ltd has been finalised by
>representatives of the two companies involved, Demon and MicroSoft.
Microsoft does not buy 2nd rate companies.
Thomas
T Bruce Tober
In article <356d7290....@clues.com>, Thomas Lee <t...@psp.co.uk>
writes
Microshit is a second rate company, except in the mind of the wankers
like you who praise it to the heavens.
Thomas Lee
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 01:47:23 +0100, T Bruce Tober
<octob...@reporters.net> wrote:
>In article <356d7290....@clues.com>, Thomas Lee <t...@psp.co.uk>
>writes
>>On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:09:27 +0100, T Bruce Tober
>><octob...@reporters.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Lodon - Informed sources today reported that the long-awaited and much
>>>speculated upon sale of Demon Internet Ltd has been finalised by
>>>representatives of the two companies involved, Demon and MicroSoft.
>>
>>Microsoft does not buy 2nd rate companies.
>
>Microshit is a second rate company, except in the mind of the wankers
>like you who praise it to the heavens.
By all measures of success, MS is a 1st rate company. Just because
they turned you down...
Thomas
Mike Pellatt
>Lodon - Informed sources today reported that the long-awaited and much
>speculated upon sale of Demon Internet Ltd has been finalised by
>representatives of the two companies involved, Demon and MicroSoft.
[ snip ]
Sorry, not even vaguely amusing. Your .sig is way too long
*plonk*
--
Mike Pellatt
Phil Payne
> >Lodon - Informed sources today reported that the long-awaited and much
> >speculated upon sale of Demon Internet Ltd has been finalised by
> >representatives of the two companies involved, Demon and MicroSoft.
>
> Microsoft does not buy 2nd rate companies.
ROTFLMAO!!!
You _really_ have got it bad, haven't you? Even most 'softies don't
eulogise _this_ much.
Microsoft buys plenty of second-rate companies. In fact, that's almost
the only kind they _do_ buy. The reason is that they're usually after
ideas, products or intellectual property of some kind - and these things
are no respecters of company quality. Someone with a brilliant
technical idea will not necessarily be a good entrepreneur - the
companies they found often flounder.
One classic example is Netwise, which Microsoft bought in November 1995
because it wanted some of the technology for Windows NT. Netwise was a
basket case - their UK subsidiary was put into liquidation after a
creditors meetin on 4 March 1992, after ceasing to trade on 14 February
1992, leaving a "substantial" hole in the parent's accounts. The entire
European operation was closed down a year later. Various creditors
appealed to the DTI for an investigation of potential breaches of
Section 312 of the 1986 Insolvency Act. All sorts of allegations were
made - see the Computergram for 10 March 1992.
Find a guy called Bruce Biermann over there, and ask his opinion.
And say "Hi" for me.
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Stuart Mingay
... look, it's very simple ... if you don't like the service ... GO
SOMEWHERE ELSE AND STOP BLOODY MOANING.
Stuart Mingay
Stuart Mingay <stuartm@gibson-SPM-.demon.co.uk>
You know what to do with the "-SPM-". Remove to email.
This is where I'm supposed to write something witty isn't it.
T Bruce Tober
In article <35747d44....@clues.com>, Thomas Lee <t...@psp.co.uk>
writes
>On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 01:47:23 +0100, T Bruce Tober
><octob...@reporters.net> wrote:
>
>>Microshit is a second rate company, except in the mind of the wankers
>>like you who praise it to the heavens.
>
>By all measures of success, MS is a 1st rate company.
A key measure of success is putting the customer, his needs and wants
first. MicroShite doesn't do that in any sense of the term.
Colin Smith.
In article <slrn6kdis...@mpellatt.demon.co.uk>, Mike Pellatt
<mi...@mpellatt.demon.co.uk> writes
>On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:09:27 +0100, T Bruce Tober
><octob...@reporters.net> wrote:
>
>>Lodon - Informed sources today reported that the long-awaited and much
>>speculated upon sale of Demon Internet Ltd has been finalised by
>>representatives of the two companies involved, Demon and MicroSoft.
>
>
>Sorry, not even vaguely amusing.
Maybe not, but very true.
>*plonk*
You must have one of the largest kill files known to man. Do you always
hide behind such actions....
Pete Rodger
In article <p4HbmQAb...@reporters.net>, T Bruce Tober
<octob...@reporters.net> writes
...the fuckwit does it again!
<plonk>
(Dunno why I ever let him out...)
--
Pete
Phil Jones
Wed, 29 Apr 1998 in demon.service, T Bruce Tober
<octob...@reporters.net> wrote:
>A key measure of success is putting the customer, his needs and wants
>first. MicroShite doesn't do that in any sense of the term.
That might be a means to success but it isn't a *measure* of success.
As far as most owners of businesses are concerned, success = wealth.
--
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Paul Baker
Which of its flagship products are *not* 2000 compliant?
Shall we start with NT4 and work our way down?
--
Paul Baker
Birmingham, UK
Paul Womar
T Bruce Tober <octob...@reporters.net> wrote:
> A key measure of success is putting the customer, his needs and wants
> first. MicroShite doesn't do that in any sense of the term.
You seem to have an unparalled hatred of Microsoft but still appear to
be using Win95, why?
--
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Damien Burke
>... look, it's very simple ... if you don't like the service ... GO
>SOMEWHERE ELSE AND STOP BLOODY MOANING.
Hey Stuart, is your nodename really gibson-SPM- ? I take it you won't
MOAN if one of the residents here reports you to abuse@demon for your
heinous crimes and they revoke your news posting privileges then?
--
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Pete Rodger
In article <I7MnDHA3...@colskip.demon.co.uk>, Colin Smith.
<col...@colskip.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>
>You must have one of the largest kill files known to man. Do you always
>hide behind such actions....
And *you* seem to support the fuckwits and have a go at the helpful
ones, are you contesting for FOTM??
--
Pete
Colen 'Not Colin' McAlister
One fine day in the middle of the night, T Bruce Tober spoke:
>Microshit is a second rate company, except in the mind of the wankers
>like you who praise it to the heavens.
Come on Bruce, say what you think. :P
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Colin Smith.
In article <x5viDCAe...@glost.demon.co.uk>, Pete Rodger
<Pe...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
Oh christ, Are you back again, {R} has some new tablets give him a call
and try them. Helps to stop you going blind.
Julie Brandon
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 01:07:41 GMT, Thomas Lee did spake:
>By all measures of success, MS is a 1st rate company. Just because
>they turned you down...
Doesn't this conversation depend on how one defines a "first rate
company"...
Ta-ra,
Julie (with air ticket bought, preparing another pack of
custard-pies...)
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Julie Brandon
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:25:31 +0100, Paul Womar did spake:
>You seem to have an unparalled hatred of Microsoft but still appear to
>be using Win95, why?
If you take the question the other way around, then you might start
to get some explanation (i.e., he appears to be using Win95, and has an
unparalleled hatred of Microsoft.. *8-) )
Ta-ra,
Julie (who quite likes Bruce to be honest......)
Julie Brandon
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:21:49 GMT, Thomas Lee did spake:
>Microsoft does not buy 2nd rate companies.
*8-(
Oh no, Thomas has finally been assimilated.
Ta-ra,
Julie.
Julie Brandon
On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:10:10 GMT, Stuart Mingay did spake:
>... look, it's very simple ... if you don't like the service ... GO
>SOMEWHERE ELSE AND STOP BLOODY MOANING.
Given the lack of SOMEWHERE ELSE to GO, it makes some sense to
make it clear to the current provider that their service is still not
quite as one might hope...
Nix
"Colin Smith." <col...@colskip.demon.co.uk> writes:
> Do you always
> hide behind such actions....
You are Eliza AICMFP...
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T Bruce Tober
In article <b1xSkoAx...@ynystawe.demon.co.uk>, Phil Jones
<p...@ynystawe.demon.co.uk> writes
>Wed, 29 Apr 1998 in demon.service, T Bruce Tober
><octob...@reporters.net> wrote:
>>A key measure of success is putting the customer, his needs and wants
>>first. MicroShite doesn't do that in any sense of the term.
>
>As far as most owners of businesses are concerned, success = wealth.
Point taken. Ah for the good old days when the customer was always
right, even when he was wrong and companies didn't come close to
succeeding unless they satisfied said customer.
T Bruce Tober
In article <1d89mco.1kz...@pwomar.demon.co.uk>, Paul Womar
<{$PW$}@pwomar.demon.co.uk> writes
>T Bruce Tober <octob...@reporters.net> wrote:
>
>> A key measure of success is putting the customer, his needs and wants
>> first. MicroShite doesn't do that in any sense of the term.
>
>be using Win95, why?
Because part of my work involves review of software and use of software,
most of which is only available on w95 platform unfortunately.
Douggie Green
In article <3547ad77...@news.demon.co.uk>
3gee...@the-hamsters.demon.co.uk "Kurt Adkins" trolls again:
[snip]
> Another one who only knows how to recycle comments. Is there no
> imagination at all in d.s.
>
Wasted on the witless.
Douggie
Raj Rijhwani
In article <356d7290....@clues.com> t...@psp.co.uk "Thomas Lee" writes:
> On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 19:09:27 +0100, T Bruce Tober
> <octob...@reporters.net> wrote:
> >Lodon - Informed sources today reported that the long-awaited and much
> >speculated upon sale of Demon Internet Ltd has been finalised by
> >representatives of the two companies involved, Demon and MicroSoft.
> Microsoft does not buy 2nd rate companies.
No, it drives them out of business, dragging the market place just that
little bit lower, and closer to their its own level.
When Billy boy is looking for an image boost he buys 3rd rate companies
that were never much more than irksome.
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Simon Oke
Malcolm Ogilvie <MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> writes:
> ... his PGP
> key comes out in raw text instead of contained within the more usual
> grey bar. Why is that?
Because he's not posting MIME to newsgroups. He's got that right, at
least.
--
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with a chainsaw.
Matt J Collins
Kurt Adkins <cha...@nospam.demon.co.uk> exploded messily and this splatted down:
:>> Another one who only knows how to recycle comments. Is there no
:>> imagination at all in d.s.
:>>
:>Wasted on the witless.
:>
:>Douggie
: Huh? After all you understood it!
I believe the honourable gentleman may have been referring to
imagination, and its applications.
Cheers,
Matt (I'm a salmon, you know...)
--
mat...@demon.net senior network engineer
http://www.demon.net/ Demon Internet Ltd
http://www.demon.nl/
T Bruce Tober
In article <86g1ivp...@redcow.flibble.org>, Simon Oke
<si...@redcow.flibble.org> writes
>Malcolm Ogilvie <MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
>> ... his PGP
>> key comes out in raw text instead of contained within the more usual
>> grey bar. Why is that?
>
>Because he's not posting MIME to newsgroups. He's got that right, at
>least.
Actually, if you morons had a clue you'd know, as has already been
explained, that I'm not posting my key, only my key fingerprint and id.
Maybe you'd best learn a bit about pgp before you start farting around
calling others fuckwits.
tbt -- Whose book on Internet security issues & solutions for SME managers and
executives will be available from Bloor Research by Mid-June '98.
Gary Cooper
In article <q40bWcAZ...@reporters.net>
octob...@reporters.net "T Bruce Tober" writes:
> Actually, if you morons had a clue you'd know, as has already been
> explained, that I'm not posting my key, only my key fingerprint and id.
> Maybe you'd best learn a bit about pgp before you start farting around
> calling others fuckwits.
Your sig is *still* too long. Fuckwit.
--
Gary Cooper
T Bruce Tober
In article <893945...@wordshop.demon.co.uk>, Gary Cooper
<Coo...@wordshop.demon.co.uk> writes
Go back to demon.local where you belong, moron.
Nix
${julies/newsreply}$@merp.demon.co.uk (Julie Brandon) writes:
> Julie (who quite likes Bruce to be honest......)
I wasn't aware that he normally lied.
;)
Paul Womar
T Bruce Tober <octob...@reporters.net> wrote:
> In article <1d89mco.1kz...@pwomar.demon.co.uk>, Paul Womar
> <{$PW$}@pwomar.demon.co.uk> writes
> >You seem to have an unparalled hatred of Microsoft but still appear to
> >be using Win95, why?
>
> Because part of my work involves review of software and use of software,
> most of which is only available on w95 platform unfortunately.
That doesn't mean you have to use it for your own uses though.
Richard Clayton
In article <B16E7BFB...@petermc.demon.co.uk>, Peter McDermott
<pe...@petermc.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <kQlfpTAK...@indaal.demon.co.uk>,
>Malcolm Ogilvie <MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Lots of messages every day, and all with an 11-line signature which is a
>>mere 7 more than the recommended standard. Not just that, but his PGP
>>key comes out in raw text instead of contained within the more usual
>>grey bar. Why is that?
>
>Grey bar? What is this grey bar business?
Turnpike detects PGP signatures (and indeed various other PGP
structures) and packages them away into a "grey bar" much like the
onscreen representations used for attachments.
Apart from making everything look neater, and giving you buttons to
allow you to save the information as a file, it has the important side-
effect of ensuring that these sections are never quoted in replies.
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Peter McDermott
Peter McDermott
In article <3546dfdb...@news.demon.co.uk>,
stuartm@gibson-SPM-.demon.co.uk (Stuart Mingay) wrote:
>... look, it's very simple ... if you don't like the service ... GO
>SOMEWHERE ELSE AND STOP BLOODY MOANING.
Actually, he's just said he does like it. So much so, that
after a six month tour of other ISP's he came back here after
insisting that they were crap, didn't pay him money they owed,
etc., etc.
Claire
On Thursday, in article
<B16E7BFB...@petermc.demon.co.uk>
pe...@petermc.demon.co.uk "Peter McDermott" wrote:
PM> In article <kQlfpTAK...@indaal.demon.co.uk>,
PM> Malcolm Ogilvie <MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
PM>
PM> >Lots of messages every day, and all with an 11-line signature which is a
PM> >mere 7 more than the recommended standard. Not just that, but his PGP
PM> >key comes out in raw text instead of contained within the more usual
PM> >grey bar. Why is that?
PM>
PM> Grey bar? What is this grey bar business?
You forgotten John Major already?
It's where he goes drinking ;-)
HTH
Claire
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Terrance Richard Boyes
T Bruce Tober <URL:mailto:octob...@reporters.net> wrote:
>
> Actually, if you morons had a clue you'd know, as has already been
> explained, that I'm not posting my key, only my key fingerprint and id.
> Maybe you'd best learn a bit about pgp before you start farting around
> calling others fuckwits.
[snip adverts]
> | PGP Key Details follow: |
^^^^^^^
> | RSA key ID 0x94F48255 Fingerprint 0907 EBCD 1B37 91F5 D15C 0D2E C617 2671 |
> | DSS/DH key ID 0xB1445118 |
> | DSS/DH key Fingerprint CBB5 8BF8 2CCC 9B86 41EB 1788 6930 78FB B144 5118 |
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Douggie Green
In article <6i9sbi$hfd$1...@info.noc.demon.net>
mat...@demon.net "Matt J Collins" writes:
> Kurt Adkins <cha...@nospam.demon.co.uk> exploded messily and this splatted
> down:
> :>> Another one who only knows how to recycle comments. Is there no
> :>> imagination at all in d.s.
> :>>
> :>Wasted on the witless.
> :>
> :>Douggie
>
> : Huh? After all you understood it!
>
> I believe the honourable gentleman may have been referring to
> imagination, and its applications.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matt (I'm a salmon, you know...)
>
Prezzactly.
Douggie (Part time angler...) (Never used a spinner, tho...)
T Bruce Tober
In article <pRv+CAA6...@colskip.demon.co.uk>, Colin Smith.
<col...@colskip.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <iW+59GBz...@reporters.net>, T Bruce Tober
><octob...@reporters.net> writes
>
>[snip]
>
>>Go back to demon.local where you belong, moron.
>
Doesnt' surprise me.
> He should enbark on a career on the
>stage.
I wouldn't wish that on the theatre.
tbt -- Whose book on Internet security issues & solutions for SME managers and
executives will be available from Bloor Research by Mid-June '98.
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Paul C. Dickie
In article <893967...@siberia.demon.co.uk>, Claire <cl$9804$e@siberia
.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>On Thursday, in article
> <B16E7BFB...@petermc.demon.co.uk>
> pe...@petermc.demon.co.uk "Peter McDermott" wrote:
>PM> Grey bar? What is this grey bar business?
>
>You forgotten John Major already?
Who he?
--
< Paul >
Mitch
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998 23:33:30 +0100, "Colin Smith."
<col...@colskip.demon.co.uk> enlightened us all with:
>In article <iW+59GBz...@reporters.net>, T Bruce Tober
><octob...@reporters.net> writes
>
>[snip]
>
>>Go back to demon.local where you belong, moron.
>
>Hell, he even had problems there. He should enbark on a career on the
>stage.
scrubbing it?
--
Mitch
Mitch
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998 23:39:37 GMT, d...@nospam.demon.co.uk (Damien
Burke) enlightened us all with:
>On Thu, 30 Apr 98 20:07:21 +0100 (BST), Terrance Richard Boyes
><t...@pierrot.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Bruce wrote:
>>> | PGP Key Details follow: |
>> ^^^^^^^
> ^^^^^^^
>>
>>> | RSA key ID 0x94F48255 Fingerprint 0907 EBCD 1B37 91F5 D15C 0D2E C617 2671 |
>>> | DSS/DH key ID 0xB1445118 |
>>> | DSS/DH key Fingerprint CBB5 8BF8 2CCC 9B86 41EB 1788 6930 78FB B144 5118 |
>
>I see 'ID' and 'Fingerprint'. Does that make a key? No.
The "details" of the key follow, you idiot.
Key id plus fingerprint = key details
Sheesh
--
Mitch
Matt J Collins
Douggie Green <Dou...@ex-change.demon.co.uk> exploded messily and this splatted down:
: Douggie (Part time angler...) (Never used a spinner, tho...)
Just don't admit to that when Tim's on duty... ;P
Cheers,
Matt (Uhhh. Changed my mind. I'm a ginormous angler
eating MonsterPike)
Gary Cooper
In article <iW+59GBz...@reporters.net>
octob...@reporters.net "T Bruce Tober" writes:
> Go back to demon.local where you belong, moron.
An altogether predictable response from a bandwidth wasting,
'coventions are for everyone but me' dickhead.
<plonk>
--
Gary Cooper
Gary Cooper
In article <pRv+CAA6...@colskip.demon.co.uk>
colo...@colskip.demon.co.uk "Colin Smith." writes:
> Hell, he even had problems there. He should enbark on a career on the
> stage.
"Enbark", eh? Clue: Always proofread your attempted flames.
--
Gary Cooper
Peter McDermott
In article <Ck+RxGB$c7R1...@reporters.net>,
T Bruce Tober <octob...@reporters.net> wrote:
>>That might be a means to success but it isn't a *measure* of success.
>>As far as most owners of businesses are concerned, success = wealth.
>
>Point taken. Ah for the good old days when the customer was always
>right, even when he was wrong and companies didn't come close to
>succeeding unless they satisfied said customer.
Oh God, please no. Can you imagine what demon.service would
be like *then*, with a bunch of PR clones mouthing meaningless
apologies to fuckwits who can't set up their machines.
Three cheers for companies who call a fuckwit a fuckwit.
Peter McDermott
In article <I6JRodBB...@turnpike.com>,
Richard Clayton <ric...@turnpike.com> wrote:
>>Grey bar? What is this grey bar business?
>
>Turnpike detects PGP signatures (and indeed various other PGP
>structures) and packages them away into a "grey bar" much like the
>onscreen representations used for attachments.
OK, that makes sense, thanks.
I was just a bit puzzled as all I ever see is plain ascii.
Sometimes I really wish I had Windows so I could join in
all the moaning about it as well.
T Bruce Tober
In article <B16F7413...@0.0.0.0>, Peter McDermott
<pe...@petermc.demon.co.uk> writes
Er, uh, yeah. Thanks for reminding me. Yech.
>
>Three cheers for companies who call a fuckwit a fuckwit.
Well, let's just hope now it's official that Demon is part of Scottish
Telecomms that attitude will continue.
tbt -- Whose book on Internet security issues & solutions for SME managers and
executives will be available from Bloor Research by Mid-June '98.
--
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| Freelance PhotoJournalist - IT, Business, The Arts and lots more |
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Simon Oke
T Bruce Tober <octob...@reporters.net> writes:
> Actually, if you morons had a clue you'd know, as has already been
> explained, that I'm not posting my key, only my key fingerprint and id.
> Maybe you'd best learn a bit about pgp before you start farting around
> calling others fuckwits.
I don't recall calling you a fuckwit. However, since you persist in
using a 10-line signature with the separator in the middle, I'll do so
now.
Fuckwit.
*plonk*
T Bruce Tober
In article <86pvhyg...@redcow.flibble.org>, Simon Oke
<si...@redcow.flibble.org> writes
>T Bruce Tober <octob...@reporters.net> writes:
>
>> Actually, if you morons had a clue you'd know, as has already been
>> explained, that I'm not posting my key, only my key fingerprint and id.
>> Maybe you'd best learn a bit about pgp before you start farting around
>> calling others fuckwits.
>
>I don't recall calling you a fuckwit. However, since you persist in
>using a 10-line signature with the separator in the middle,
I do that to save myself having to retype the initials and brief message
(which varies fairly often) after it. Does it not work? I believe it
does which means my sig is only seven lines. Longer than demon.local
morons like, but that's too bad. I keep it as brief as I can while
maintaining the information I feel is necessary in it. If you and the
other d.l mornons don't like it, plonk off.
PLONK!
Colin Smith.
In article <894016...@wordshop.demon.co.uk>, Gary Cooper
<Coo...@wordshop.demon.co.uk> writes
--
Colin Smith. Mailto:col...@colskip.demon.co.uk
Colin Smith.
>be like *then*, with a bunch of PR clones mouthing meaningless
>apologies to fuckwits who can't set up their machines.
>
>
>
Colin Smith.
>now.
>
>Fuckwit.
>
>*plonk*
Oh dear, Another one gone to the little boys room, it'll be tears next,
then stamping of our little feet.
Dr John Stockton
JRS: In article <NzLikrBl...@reporters.net> of Thu, 30 Apr 1998
19:42:45 in demon.service, T Bruce Tober <octob...@reporters.net>
wrote:
>I try, to be honest.
>tbt --
You do, quite often : but perhaps with more careful copy-editing that
comma would not have appeared?
--
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Peter Hayes
In article <hxOOpeD0...@spacetime.demon.co.uk>, Chris Lawrence
<ne...@spacetime.demon.co.uk> writes
>In news article <B16E7BFB...@petermc.demon.co.uk>
>on Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Peter McDermott wrote:
>
>>>mere 7 more than the recommended standard. Not just that, but his PGP
>>
>
>news (PGP sigs, MIME enclosures, UUencoded files, VCards, etc) as a grey
>bar with appropriate buttons to decode, save, inspect, etc.
>
Comes out as ASCII on my Turnpike V3.03a, like the man said.
Never ever seen any grey bars, at least not in this context.
--
Peter
"The only thing wrong with Microsoft is that they have no taste" - Steve Jobs.
E-mail address *is* correct
Julie Brandon
On 29 Apr 1998 22:09:49 +0100, Nix did spake:
>"Colin Smith." <col...@colskip.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Do you always
>> hide behind such actions....
>
>You are Eliza AICMFP...
Why do you think I am Eliza AICMFP...?
--
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poor ol' 'pines they mustn't mingle, pingle pangle pingle."
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Colen 'Not Colin' McAlister
One fine day in the middle of the night, T Bruce Tober spoke:
>>Three cheers for companies who call a fuckwit a fuckwit.
>
>Well, let's just hope now it's official that Demon is part of Scottish
>Telecomms that attitude will continue.
What are you implying about us up here in Sunny Scotland?
* grin
--
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brother...@geocities.com, UIN 2149443 ('Morgan') X
"Don't question authority; it doesn't know either." - Yet More Philosophy
Colen 'Not Colin' McAlister
One fine day in the middle of the night, Peter McDermott spoke:
>>
>>structures) and packages them away into a "grey bar" much like the
>>onscreen representations used for attachments.
>
>OK, that makes sense, thanks.
>
>I was just a bit puzzled as all I ever see is plain ascii.
>
>Sometimes I really wish I had Windows so I could join in
>all the moaning about it as well.
>
Well then, use SoftWindows (or whatever it's called) or buy a PC.
</troll>
Peter McDermott
In article <RPTh+EAF...@colskip.demon.co.uk>,
"Colin Smith." <col...@colskip.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>Three cheers for companies who call a fuckwit a fuckwit.
>>
>>
>Very fine words, I doubt you'll get away with it with the new owners.
Don't worry, Colin. There'll always be plenty of us ready
to point out what a fuckwit *you* are in case the new
owners aren't quite up to the task.
Douggie Green
In article <6ic3vk$frc$2...@info.noc.demon.net>
mat...@demon.net "Matt J Collins" writes:
> Douggie Green <Dou...@ex-change.demon.co.uk> exploded messily and this
> splatted down:
>
> : Douggie (Part time angler...) (Never used a spinner, tho...)
>
> Just don't admit to that when Tim's on duty... ;P
>
What, fishing or not trolling :)
> Cheers,
>
> Matt (Uhhh. Changed my mind. I'm a ginormous angler
> eating MonsterPike)
>
Run away! Run away!
Douggie (Once saw a pike take a duck - quack, flap-splash, gurgle. And
their North American cousins are *big* buggers with *lots* of teeth)
T Bruce Tober
In article <setBThAi...@merlyn.demon.co.uk>, Dr John Stockton
<j...@merlyn.demon.co.uk> writes
>JRS: In article <NzLikrBl...@reporters.net> of Thu, 30 Apr 1998
>19:42:45 in demon.service, T Bruce Tober <octob...@reporters.net>
>wrote:
>
>>I try, to be honest.
>
>>tbt --
>
>You do, quite often : but perhaps with more careful copy-editing that
>comma would not have appeared?
Careful copy-editing was applied. The thread read as follows:
=====================
>> Julie (who quite likes Bruce to be honest......)
>
>I wasn't aware that he normally lied.
>
>;)
I try, to be honest.
==================
The comma indicates that I was saying that to be honest I do try (I'm
not saying what I try to do however).
Chris Lawrence
In news article <YwRXEVCM...@reporters.net>
on Fri, 1 May 1998, T Bruce Tober wrote:
>maintaining the information I feel is necessary in it. If you and the
>other d.l mornons don't like it, plonk off.
Well said! Now all you need to do is turn your stereo up full blast
whenever you feel like it and tell the neighbours to plonk off if they
don't like it.
The sentiment of your sig (which I tend to agree with) is negated by the
way in which you show no concern for others by not following recognised
guidelines (and let's be honest, they ask so little). Why do you
suppose that anyone should care for your thoughts when you don't care
for theirs?
--
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Liverpool, UK The Reply-To: address is valid and works
"I have a pain in your leg - discuss" - philosophy exam question
Mark Baker
In article <slrn6kka9t.4fm.${julies/newsreply}$@merp.demon.co.uk>,
${julies/newsreply}$@merp.demon.co.uk (Julie Brandon) writes:
>>You are Eliza AICMFP...
>
> Why do you think I am Eliza AICMFP...?
Hmm...
You are Eliza AICMFP
Eliza? Hah! I would appreciate it if you would continue.
Aren't you supposed to say "Why do you think I am Eliza AICMFP?"?
Are you sure?
Yes
I see... Well, why do you say this is so?
Because Julie said so on demon.service
Is it because julie said so on demon service that you came to me?
You bet
What makes you believe I bet?
Nix
${julies/newsreply}$@merp.demon.co.uk (Julie Brandon) writes:
> On 29 Apr 1998 22:09:49 +0100, Nix did spake:
> >"Colin Smith." <col...@colskip.demon.co.uk> writes:
> >
> >> Do you always
> >> hide behind such actions....
> >
> >You are Eliza AICMFP...
>
> Why do you think I am Eliza AICMFP...?
Is it because do I think I am Eliza AICMFP that you came to me?
--
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mumble mumble bimble late. Passengers mizzing to mumble rimble mumble
are advised to momble mar at murmble. Thank you mor mumble mimbling
Brimble mum. bing-bong." - Gaz on railway announcements
Paul Womar
Colin Smith. <col...@colskip.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <86pvhyg...@redcow.flibble.org>, Simon Oke
> <si...@redcow.flibble.org> writes
> >*plonk*
>
> Oh dear, Another one gone to the little boys room, it'll be tears next,
> then stamping of our little feet.
You really are an utter moron, someone has chosen not to read someone
elses postings and you equate that to stomping feet like a child. If
someone decides they don't like a TV programme or skips a few pages in a
newspaper because they'd rather do something better with their time do
you make such fuckwitted accusations to them?
--
-> The email address in this message *IS* Valid <-
T Bruce Tober
In article <$kiZsVAH...@spacetime.demon.co.uk>, Chris Lawrence
<ne...@spacetime.demon.co.uk> writes
>Well said! Now all you need to do is turn your stereo up full blast
>whenever you feel like it and tell the neighbours to plonk off if they
>don't like it.
There is nothing analogous at all in the situations.
>The sentiment of your sig (which I tend to agree with) is negated by the
>way in which you show no concern for others by not following recognised
>guidelines (and let's be honest, they ask so little). Why do you
>suppose that anyone should care for your thoughts when you don't care
>for theirs?
At least you're rational and non-argumentative. Feel free to redesign in
a manner which tells all and yet does so in the accepted amount of
space. I've tried, can't manage it.
Julie Brandon
On Fri, 1 May 1998 17:47:08 +0100, T Bruce Tober did spake:
>maintaining the information I feel is necessary in it. If you and the
>other d.l mornons don't like it, plonk off.
>
In fairness Bruce, it is taking the pee somewhat, and you don't seem
to give a damn what anyone else reading it thinks about it.
Although on the whole I appreciate the things you have to say, on
this issue at least you're behaving in the manner of a FW.
As such,
*plonk*
*8-(
Sorry.
Ta-ra,
Julie.
Nix
T Bruce Tober <octob...@reporters.net> writes:
> At least you're rational and non-argumentative. Feel free to redesign in
> a manner which tells all and yet does so in the accepted amount of
> space. I've tried, can't manage it.
Put the PGP key info in some X-headers, for a start. And putting your
phone number in your sig is a *really* *really* bad idea IMNSHO. And take
the silly border off.
That's got the bit below the sigsep down to three lines.
Colin Smith.
In article <B17024809...@petermc.demon.co.uk>, Peter McDermott
<pe...@petermc.demon.co.uk> writes
Thanks Peter, may all your troubles be little ones also. Into my sacking
book you go....
Colin Smith.
In article <slrn6kka9t.4fm.${julies/newsreply}$@merp.demon.co.uk>, Julie
Brandon <${julies/newsreply}$@merp.demon.co.uk> writes
>On 29 Apr 1998 22:09:49 +0100, Nix did spake:
>>"Colin Smith." <col...@colskip.demon.co.uk> writes:
>>
>>> Do you always
>>> hide behind such actions....
>>
>>You are Eliza AICMFP...
>
>Why do you think I am Eliza AICMFP...?
>
are asking about, In this case, what I wrote has no reference in what
you ask. To edit correctly is a simple exercise.
Colin Smith.
In article <1d8ef2j.55...@pwomar.demon.co.uk>, Paul Womar
<{$PW$}@pwomar.demon.co.uk> writes
[snip]
>You really are an utter moron, someone has chosen not to read someone
>elses postings and you equate that to stomping feet like a child. If
>someone decides they don't like a TV programme or skips a few pages in a
>newspaper because they'd rather do something better with their time do
>you make such fuckwitted accusations to them?
Time for Pan calling Kettle black is it?.....
Colin Smith.
In article <87zph16...@loki.wkstn.nix>, Nix
<{$eri}$@esperi.demon.co.uk> writes
>${julies/newsreply}$@merp.demon.co.uk (Julie Brandon) writes:
>
>> On 29 Apr 1998 22:09:49 +0100, Nix did spake:
>> >"Colin Smith." <col...@colskip.demon.co.uk> writes:
>> >
>> >> Do you always
>> >> hide behind such actions....
>> >
>> >You are Eliza AICMFP...
>>
>> Why do you think I am Eliza AICMFP...?
>
>
and Prozac club.
Nix
"Colin Smith." <col...@colskip.demon.co.uk> writes:
> In article <slrn6kka9t.4fm.${julies/newsreply}$@merp.demon.co.uk>, Julie
> Brandon <${julies/newsreply}$@merp.demon.co.uk> writes
> >On 29 Apr 1998 22:09:49 +0100, Nix did spake:
> >>"Colin Smith." <col...@colskip.demon.co.uk> writes:
> >>
> >>> Do you always
> >>> hide behind such actions....
> >>
> >>You are Eliza AICMFP...
> >
> >Why do you think I am Eliza AICMFP...?
> >
> If you must quote my reference be so good to check that I wrote what you
> are asking about, In this case, what I wrote has no reference in what
> you ask. To edit correctly is a simple exercise.
I *was* editing correctly; I just wasn't commenting on the main thrust
of your argument, but pointing out how Eliza-like one of your sentences
(quoted) sounded. Hence, I quoted that sentence. Quoting more would have
been overquoting.
I'm not asking *you* about anything.
And your grammar sucks. (What does `what I wrote has no reference in what
you ask' mean? It sounds more like PARRY than Eliza, that bit, but even
so...)
David G. Bell
In article <87ra2c7...@loki.wkstn.nix>
{$eri}$@esperi.demon.co.uk "Nix" writes:
> T Bruce Tober <octob...@reporters.net> writes:
>
> > At least you're rational and non-argumentative. Feel free to redesign in
> > a manner which tells all and yet does so in the accepted amount of
> > space. I've tried, can't manage it.
>
> Put the PGP key info in some X-headers, for a start. And putting your
> phone number in your sig is a *really* *really* bad idea IMNSHO. And take
> the silly border off.
>
> That's got the bit below the sigsep down to three lines.
I was, years ago, led to understand that the rule on .sig length
reflected the cost to the Internet community of storing and transmitting
repetitive data. Moving it to X-headers doesn't make any difference to
that.
Besides, counting lines is a little silly. Four lines of text, and
don't fuss over blank lines put in to make things clear.
I agree about caution for phone numbers. For those of us with access to
cheap/free web-space, a URL to a web page is a sensible option, but it
is arguable that, for PGP key purposes, you need more than just the URL.
--
David G. Bell -- Farmer, SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.
Phil Payne
In article <87iuno7...@loki.wkstn.nix>
{$eri}$@esperi.demon.co.uk "Nix" writes:
> And your grammar sucks.
!
--
Phil Payne
Phone: +44 385 302803 Fax: +44 1536 723021
Peter McDermott
In article <lQAYcBAJ...@reporters.net>,
T Bruce Tober <octob...@reporters.net> wrote:
>At least you're rational and non-argumentative. Feel free to redesign in
>a manner which tells all and yet does so in the accepted amount of
>space. I've tried, can't manage it.
Why do you believe you need anything more than a link to your
website?
T Bruce Tober
In article <354b4b38...@news.demon.co.uk>, Kurt Adkins
<cha...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
>The *plonk* mantra is a bandwagon that someone started in here and is
>now used (mainly by self righteous pontificating pillocks {SRPP[tm]} who
>infest d.s.) when the *plonker* has run out of insults or arguments!
Which is to say d.s has become too similar to d.l to be of much value.
Unfortunate though that is, so be it.
Just one last thought before I bugger off to my regular (and mostly
intellectually more stimulating ones at that) haunts....
Oh never mind....
Paul Womar
Colin Smith. <col...@colskip.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I'm not sure I actually want to know the answer but what the hell, what
are you talking about?
Paul Womar
Kurt Adkins <cha...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Yeah okay, but does he -have- to make a song and a dance about it!
Is a single word really that?
> By the very fact he is telling all and sundry that he is going to do it,
> he is making a comment that can't be answered by the offended party.
> That and the fact that it is akin to putting his fingers in his ears and
> singing a silly song.
You say that I see it more as simply making a pro-active move not to
[pay to] download stuff they don't want to read. Maybe sometimes it is
akin to putting your fingers in your ears, I don't think that is the
norm though.
> The *plonk* mantra is a bandwagon that someone started in here and is
> now used (mainly by self righteous pontificating pillocks {SRPP[tm]} who
> infest d.s.) when the *plonker* has run out of insults or arguments!
I'll agree with you on the latter in part but only in so much that once
they've had a go at trying to feed the luser some clues and see that the
person is beyond hope, you chuck a few insults see the "Get a life"
style response (normally quoting headers, sigs & the entire message)
decide you've had enough an plonk them. Colin is one of the very few
likely candidates for my killfile due to what they actually say as
opposed to shitty posting habits, the only other person that springs to
mind that currently fits this description is McLice. I don't mind him
giving a few crappy insults and thinking that the 'Redneck mob' is
somehow witty but that's all he seems to do, cricise "robust" people who
might actually have a clue, there are plenty of us here posting the same
crap to the same [type of] people over and over again but occasionally
some of us actually say something useful or interesting too.
Matt J Collins
Kurt Adkins <cha...@nospam.demon.co.uk> exploded messily and this splatted down:
: On Sat, 2 May 1998 12:42:49 +0100, {$PW$}@pwomar.demon.co.uk (Paul
: By the very fact he is telling all and sundry that he is going to do it,
: he is making a comment that can't be answered by the offended party.
: That and the fact that it is akin to putting his fingers in his ears and
: singing a silly song.
I see this more as a way of letting the person know that
fewer and fewer people are reading their postings - if it
happens often enough maybe, just maybe, they'll actually
consider that their arguments could be phrased in a more
rational considerate manner.
On the other hand, if nobody lets them know just how irritating
they're getting then nothing will ever change and a potentially
valuable source of information (the plonkee) is lost to a
variety of people (the plonkers) because anything useful they
might have to say is masked by a massive s:n ratio.
One word isn't really much of a song and dance ;)
Cheers,
Matt
--
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http://www.demon.net/ Demon Internet Ltd
http://www.demon.nl/
Chris Lawrence
In news article <lQAYcBAJ...@reporters.net>
on Sat, 2 May 1998, T Bruce Tober wrote:
>>Well said! Now all you need to do is turn your stereo up full blast
>>whenever you feel like it and tell the neighbours to plonk off if they
>>don't like it.
>
>There is nothing analogous at all in the situations.
In both cases you force something which is generally classed as annoying
on others.
>>The sentiment of your sig (which I tend to agree with) is negated by the
>>way in which you show no concern for others by not following recognised
[...]
>At least you're rational and non-argumentative. Feel free to redesign in
>a manner which tells all and yet does so in the accepted amount of
>space. I've tried, can't manage it.
--
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Internet security issues, details of my new book and my PGP details at
http://www.crecon.demon.co.uk/ (new updated site!)
Is that okay? Three lines (the first one would really be a 'dash dash
space'). The thing is that all of those fingerprints are daft. I'm
fully aware of what they are and the purpose they serve (actually I'm
not - why three - the names are too cryptic to be meaningful anyway),
but it's daft to have all that fingerprint data repeated every single
time. Far better to put it on a web page and point at it via a URL,
honestly.
You could use some of the existing header fields too, or add new ones if
you were absolutely desperate to get the fingerprints into EVERY article
(and your software supports it).
Peter McDermott
In article <wk$M8OACR...@whitten.demon.co.uk>,
Colen 'Not Colin' McAlister <co...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>Sometimes I really wish I had Windows so I could join in
>>all the moaning about it as well.
>>
><troll>
>Well then, use SoftWindows (or whatever it's called)
I tried it out on my old machine but it was like watching
paint dry.
Now I've got a new G3 though... :) :) :)
Watching paint blister, perhaps?
Peter McDermott
In article <354b4b38...@news.demon.co.uk>,
cha...@nospam.demon.co.uk (Kurt Adkins) wrote:
>The *plonk* mantra is a bandwagon that someone started in here and is
>now used (mainly by self righteous pontificating pillocks {SRPP[tm]} who
>infest d.s.) when the *plonker* has run out of insults or arguments!
>
You really ought to take a look outside of the demon heirarchy
Kurt. The tradition of *plonking* on Usenet long predates Demon's
existence.
Phil Payne
In article <6ihhfh$dgm$1...@info.noc.demon.net>
mat...@demon.net "Matt J Collins" writes:
> I see this more as a way of letting the person know that
> fewer and fewer people are reading their postings - if it
> happens often enough maybe, just maybe, they'll actually
> consider that their arguments could be phrased in a more
> rational considerate manner.
Accepting, for a moment, the figure of 175,000 subscribers - what the
h@ll difference does one (probably infamous) plonker's opinion matter?
> On the other hand, if nobody lets them know just how irritating
> they're getting then nothing will ever change and a potentially
> valuable source of information (the plonkee) is lost to a
> variety of people (the plonkers) because anything useful they
> might have to say is masked by a massive s:n ratio.
But they don't, do they? The majority of plonkers, IMO, never plonk.
Mark Baker
In article <p6XixPAU...@spacetime.demon.co.uk>,
Chris Lawrence <ne...@spacetime.demon.co.uk> writes:
> space'). The thing is that all of those fingerprints are daft. I'm
> fully aware of what they are and the purpose they serve (actually I'm
> not - why three - the names are too cryptic to be meaningful anyway),
It's not three, it's two. One is for an RSA key, as used by PGP2, one is for
a Diffie-Hellman key, as used by PGP5 and GnuPG. For both of them there is a
key ID and a fingerprint.
Why he needs to include all this in his articles is another matter, of
course.
Julie Brandon
On 02 May 1998 17:22:25 +0100, Nix did spake:
[snip Colin Smith's moans and groans]
>I *was* editing correctly; I just wasn't commenting on the main thrust
>of your argument, but pointing out how Eliza-like one of your sentences
>(quoted) sounded. Hence, I quoted that sentence. Quoting more would have
I don't know why you bother Nix.
Every followup to Colins posts that I've seen each time supports my
previous decision to *plonk* him.
*8-(
Julie Brandon
On Sun, 03 May 98 15:57:16 GMT, Phil Payne did spake:
>But they don't, do they? The majority of plonkers, IMO, never plonk.
Hmmm.... not so sure about that....
Colin Smith.
In article <slrn6krnmm.c7p.No_spa...@merp.demon.co.uk
>, Julie Brandon <No_spam_please...@merp.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>Every followup to Colins posts that I've seen each time supports my
>previous decision to *plonk* him.
>
>*8-(
>
>Ta-ra,
> Julie.
>
Why bother to subscribe to a group if you don't have the guts to open
discussion. You remind me of a recent visit to a Country where they
bowed to you and farted, at the same time as trying to cut your throat.
If however, you are Trolling try to be a little more creative in your
approach. Oh but I forgot, you won't be reading this will you.
Mitch
On Mon, 4 May 1998 18:18:58 +0100, "Colin Smith."
<col...@colskip.demon.co.uk> enlightened us all with:
>Why bother to subscribe to a group if you don't have the guts to open
>discussion. You remind me of a recent visit to a Country where they
>bowed to you and farted, at the same time as trying to cut your throat.
>If however, you are Trolling try to be a little more creative in your
>approach. Oh but I forgot, you won't be reading this will you.
I suspect, young man, that you have a different interpretation of
"discussion" than the rest of us.
My interpretation? It includes key words such as rational,
informative, adult. It's such a shame that your interpretation
precludes such.
--
Mitch
Colin Smith.
In article <3554d47d...@bromage.demon.co.uk>, Mitch <{mb.may98}@br
omage.demon.co.uk> writes
[snip]
>I suspect, young man,
Hey, thanks for the assumption.
>My interpretation? It includes key words such as rational,
>informative, adult.
Sure it does. It just struck a cord as I read her comments, that's all.
Tony Finch
db...@zhochaka.demon.co.uk wrote:
>
>I was, years ago, led to understand that the rule on .sig length
>reflected the cost to the Internet community of storing and transmitting
>repetitive data.
That argument has been largely irrelevant for years. The real reson
for keeping .sigs small is that big ones are annoying and make the
owner look like a twit.
Tony.
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Chris Lawrence
In news article <3550c52...@news.demon.co.uk>
on Wed, 6 May 1998, Dave wrote:
>>That argument has been largely irrelevant for years. The real reson
>>for keeping .sigs small is that big ones are annoying and make the
>>owner look like a twit.
>
>People in glass houses ??
...would have sigs greater than the accepted convention of four lines
maximum.
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Neil Barker
In article: <6ipmaq$of9$3...@info.noc.demon.net> Tony Finch
>
> db...@zhochaka.demon.co.uk wrote:
> >
> >I was, years ago, led to understand that the rule on .sig length
> >reflected the cost to the Internet community of storing and
> >transmitting repetitive data.
>
> for keeping .sigs small is that big ones are annoying and make the
> owner look like a twit.
Hurrah ! Applause !
Mind if I quote you on that ?
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Mark Lowes
In article <3550c52...@news.demon.co.uk>,
Dave <dave....@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> On 6 May 1998 12:50:34 GMT, Tony Finch <fa...@demon.net> wrote:
> >That argument has been largely irrelevant for years. The real reson
> >for keeping .sigs small is that big ones are annoying and make the
> >owner look like a twit.
>
> People in glass houses ??
No-one said .sigs have to be good, just short.
Mark
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Julie Brandon
On 6 May 1998 12:50:34 GMT, Tony Finch did spake:
>That argument has been largely irrelevant for years. The real reson
>for keeping .sigs small is that big ones are annoying and make the
>owner look like a twit.
+ mean more bloody key presses to get onto the next message, even
though there's no more actually useful material, for those of us
using one of the many newsreaders with an easy lazy hotkey that does
everything (paging, move next unread message when at end of current
one, etc.)