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Bea

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Oct 20, 2004, 10:21:39 AM10/20/04
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I am writing on behalf of my grandmother and her elderly next door
neighbour.

They have been having a problem for the past few months in which the police
cannot do anything about...

Occassionally (roughly once a week), they have been getting people "hanging"
around in their back gardens - My grandmothers' house is now sorted out - I
have set up a new high gate (10 ft) and put up some barbed wire on the top
of it. However, my grandmothers' next door neighbour cannot afford a new
gate or fence.

Her fence is about 4 ft high and the gate is the same. Therefore, barbed
wire or broken glass is not an option. She DID have a CCTV camera (in fact,
she has had 4 since this all began) to which the people who have been in the
back gardens have destroyed before they even enter the garden.

Does anyone have any reasonable priced ideas or any other ways of stopping
these inconsiderate people from raiding her back garden? Please bear in
mind that the woman who I am talking about doesn't have a lot of money, and
is in her early 80's.

Any advice would be much appreciated.


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Paul C

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Oct 20, 2004, 11:44:04 AM10/20/04
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A 50 calibre machine gun should sort them out, but, by the way you spell
neighbour means you are a UK citizen and not USA.

An old friend of mine came up with a cost effective solution who had a
similar problem. They got some fencing from B & Q, put some hinges on them
for the gate and used the 6 ft version. problem solved.

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Chris Bell

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Oct 20, 2004, 1:10:33 PM10/20/04
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In article <2tnajkF...@uni-berlin.de>, Bea

<URL:mailto:bea2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I am writing on behalf of my grandmother and her elderly next door
> neighbour.
>
> They have been having a problem for the past few months in which the police
> cannot do anything about...
>

>

> Any advice would be much appreciated.
>
>
>

I have a small camera, hidden in some plastic pipe (which acts as
waterproofing and lenshood) and surrounded by flowers, that gives an
excellent picture even in poor light. It is totally useless unless I record
its output, which requires two tape recorders and a large stack of 4 hour
tapes (used with long play so that I get a fraction over 8 hours recording
per tape). My local vandals are clearly visible, and they were very
surprised when the police turned up. Make sure that the lens angle is not
too wide, most cheap cameras give a very wide angle view, so everything is
too small to be of use. I also have a passive infra-red detector which
switches on a floodlight at night.

--
Chris Bell

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Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

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Oct 20, 2004, 2:28:49 PM10/20/04
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"Bea" <bea2...@hotmail.com> writes:
> Her fence is about 4 ft high and the gate is the same. Therefore, barbed
> wire or broken glass is not an option. She DID have a CCTV camera (in fact,
> she has had 4 since this all began) to which the people who have been in the
> back gardens have destroyed before they even enter the garden.

Google for "security hedge". You should be able to find a variety of
plants that will practically shred someone's clothes as they force
their way through. That should cut down unwanted visitors.

-wolfgang
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Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/

John

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Oct 20, 2004, 2:52:46 PM10/20/04
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In article <ant20173...@riscpc.localdomain>, Chris Bell
<ro...@127.0.0.1> writes

>In article <2tnajkF...@uni-berlin.de>, Bea
><URL:mailto:bea2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I am writing on behalf of my grandmother and her elderly next door
>> neighbour.
>>
>> They have been having a problem for the past few months in which the police
>> cannot do anything about...
>>
>
>>
>> Any advice would be much appreciated.

You have a few suggestions, including the one on using a narrow view
angle camera. This gives evidence the police can use to identify
culprits, especially if they cause a major nuisance or vandalise.

Here is a very cheap alternative, costing the price of some latex or
marigold gloves. It came from my brother, down in Chelmsford. He had
local yobs coming over his fence and kicking over wheelie bins and
chucking rags in his kitchen exhaust to block it. His solution ...

1. Put on the gloves;
2. get some old sump oil;
3. get some cat or dog shit (lots of it);
4. mix up the sump oil and shit to a thick paste;
5. spread the sump oil/shit mix on the fence and gate;
6. remember the trap, and be careful using the garden.
Warn your grandmother about it.

My brother found the parents of the shitty/oily kids gave them a hiding
for coming home in the condition they were. Especially the smell they
brought after the shit had matured for a few days.

A wish list to the trap ... perhaps the yobs will catch something that
really makes them sick.

Be a bit careful how the trap is set, so people passing cannot get
covered or who might come to the house via the back garden. Also, make
the trap smears on the inside of the fence and gate, to get anyone
coming over them.

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John

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Oct 20, 2004, 2:54:30 PM10/20/04
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In article <x7pt3d9...@bonnet.wsrcc.com>, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
<wolfgang+gnus2...@dailyplanet.dontspam.wsrcc.com> writes

Excellent idea, and a recommendation I think the police make. Anyone
that hedge jumps will not do it again, after being spiked severely.

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Bea

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Oct 20, 2004, 6:37:02 PM10/20/04
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Some excellent advice here people - I like the one that John recommended
with the dog / cat sh*t smearred paste! However, this is still a little
tricky as there is no handle on the gate due to its' size - My grandmother
and her next door neighbour just use the top.

I will definately do a "Google" for "Security Hedge".

Thanks a lot for all your advice, and hopefully all these little b*stards
will go away once and for all (with shredded clothes and skin!!)


Martin

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Oct 21, 2004, 2:56:54 AM10/21/04
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Bea wrote:
> Some excellent advice here people - I like the one that John recommended
> with the dog / cat sh*t smearred paste! However, this is still a little
> tricky as there is no handle on the gate due to its' size - My grandmother
> and her next door neighbour just use the top.
>
> I will definately do a "Google" for "Security Hedge".

I'd recommend a row of pyracantha. After having it in my garden I can
tell you that you'll only ever want to tackle one once.

Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

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Oct 21, 2004, 6:24:37 PM10/21/04
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Martin <martin...@btinternet.com> writes:
> Bea wrote:
> > Some excellent advice here people - I like the one that John
> > recommended with the dog / cat sh*t smearred paste! However, this
> > is still a little tricky as there is no handle on the gate due to
> > its' size - My grandmother and her next door neighbour just use the
> > top.
> > I will definately do a "Google" for "Security Hedge".
>
> I'd recommend a row of pyracantha. After having it in my garden I can
> tell you that you'll only ever want to tackle one once.

That's the name I couldn't remember yesterday; Pyracantha (aka
Firethorn).

http://www.angliangardener.co.uk/Plants%20pop%20ups/pyracantha.html

-wolfgang

Bea

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Oct 22, 2004, 5:24:42 PM10/22/04
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Would like to thank all of you once again.

Wolfgang - Thank you for posting the link... I bought three pyracantha
plants for my grandmothers' neighbours back garden.

Could someone please advise on how fast this grows? *lol*

Thanks once again


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