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Chris Lawrence

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May 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/15/99
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Just been perusing the classical section in HMV and discovered a CD for
10 squid - Arias and Choruses from Bach's 'St Matthew Passion'. The
last track on the CD is the theme music to the film 'Casino' with De
Niro et al. Playing it on this very meagre sound system makes me wish I
had Haplo's kit and somewhere to set it up. But through headphones it
sounds marvellous.

Any suggestions for similarly 'powerful' classical music?

--
Do we have to be so distant?
How can you be so unreal?

Wijnand Thompson

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In article <r$xu1AAZN...@spacetime.demon.co.uk>,
Chris Lawrence <ne...@spacetime.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> ... Arias and Choruses from Bach's 'St Matthew Passion'. The
> last track on the CD is the theme music to the film 'Casino' ...

> Any suggestions for similarly 'powerful' classical music?

Plenty. Er... how long have you got?

--
Wijnand BV

Chris Lawrence

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In article <4902bff4...@walhall.demon.co.uk>, Wijnand Thompson
<dro...@walhall.demon.co.uk> writes

>> Any suggestions for similarly 'powerful' classical music?
>
>Plenty. Er... how long have you got?

About ten inches on this particular monitor.

Jax

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A short while ago, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu> burbled........

>Orff - O Fortuna from "Carmina Burana" (Get that surf board out)

My personal favourite. I want this played at my funeral.

--
Jax Dancing is a perpendicular expression of a horizontal desire

B.E.Newsam

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Chris Lawrence Secret Order Of The Corrupted Registry writes:
>Arias and Choruses from Bach's 'St Matthew Passion'.

Useless info: The clock bells at St. Nicholas Parish Church in Great
Yarmouth play a "bit" from the St. Matthew Passion.

Try Elgar's "The Dream of Gerontius". I heard Sir Adrian Boult conduct
it at the Proms one year, and it knocked me sideways.
--
Ben

Dr. Strange,Love!~

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Chris Lawrence wrote in message ...

>Just been perusing the classical section in HMV and discovered a CD for
>10 squid - Arias and Choruses from Bach's 'St Matthew Passion'. The
>last track on the CD is the theme music to the film 'Casino' with De
>Niro et al. Playing it on this very meagre sound system makes me wish I
>had Haplo's kit and somewhere to set it up. But through headphones it
>sounds marvellous.
>
>Any suggestions for similarly 'powerful' classical music?

A few of my favorites:

Bach, Organ Music (Tocatta and Fugue in D Minor, E. Power Biggs, Flentrop
Organ, Harvard University)

Liszt, "Les Préludes"

Haydn, 102 Symphony in B Flat Minor

Bach, Double Concerto for Two Violins in D Minor (Perlman & Stern/ Mehta,
New York Philharmonic) **note: not really powerful; just absolute "rapture")

Wagner, Tristan und Isolde, Tannhäuser, Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg

Gershwin, Rapsody in Blue

Dvorak, New World Symphony (#9)

Bach, Cantata # 140

Strauss, Radesky March, some others (waltzes and polkas)

Lloyd-Weber, "Evita" (not really classical but a *powerful* beginning)

Most of these are powerful in the same sense as the choruses from St
Matthew's Passion.

Also, some of the arias and solos from operas:

Puccini, *Turandot*, "Nessun dorma"

Puccini, *Tosca*, "E lucevan le stelle"

Puccini, *La Bohéme*, "Mimi's Song"
--
DSL~

Malcolm Ogilvie

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In article <831367...@nemesis.nu>, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu>
writes
>In article: <r$xu1AAZN...@spacetime.demon.co.uk> Chris Lawrence
><ne...@spacetime.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Any suggestions for similarly 'powerful' classical music?
>
>Ravel - Bolero (If you can play this without thinking of Bo Derek, then
> you're doing well....)
>
>
>Rimsky-Korsakov - Caprice Espagnol (Something Torville and Dean ice-danced
> to)
>
T&D ice-danced to Ravel's Bolero.

HTH
--
Malcolm

Malcolm Ogilvie

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In article <u0JhN2AF...@microser.demon.co.uk>, B.E.Newsam
<b...@microser.demon.co.uk> writes

>Chris Lawrence Secret Order Of The Corrupted Registry writes:
>>Arias and Choruses from Bach's 'St Matthew Passion'.
>
>Useless info: The clock bells at St. Nicholas Parish Church in Great
>Yarmouth play a "bit" from the St. Matthew Passion.
>
>Try Elgar's "The Dream of Gerontius". I heard Sir Adrian Boult conduct
>it at the Proms one year, and it knocked me sideways.

It is a truly wonderful oratorio - I've taken part in performances of
it.
--
Malcolm

Marcus Durham

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In article <j2704DAC...@warboyz.demon.co.uk> Jax
<J...@warboyz.demon.co.uk> shared the following with us in demon.local:

>A short while ago, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu> burbled........
>
>>Orff - O Fortuna from "Carmina Burana" (Get that surf board out)
>
>My personal favourite. I want this played at my funeral.
>

I want Better Best Forgotten by Steps, followed by the Birdie song.

--
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joseph hutcheon

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In article <DH00LIAL...@zenn.demon.co.uk>
Mar...@zenn.demon.co.uk "Marcus Durham" writes:

> In article <j2704DAC...@warboyz.demon.co.uk> Jax
> <J...@warboyz.demon.co.uk> shared the following with us in demon.local:
> >A short while ago, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu> burbled........
> >
> >>Orff - O Fortuna from "Carmina Burana" (Get that surf board out)
> >
> >My personal favourite. I want this played at my funeral.
> >
>
> I want Better Best Forgotten by Steps, followed by the Birdie song.

"When I'm Dead and Gone" by McGuiness Flint.

--
Joe


Malcolm Ogilvie

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In article <102334...@nemesis.nu>, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu>
writes
>In article: <oqk2JDBM...@ogilvie.org> Malcolm Ogilvie
><mal...@ogilvie.org> writes:
>>
>> In article <831367...@nemesis.nu>, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu>
>> writes
>
>> >Rimsky-Korsakov - Caprice Espagnol (Something Torville and Dean
>> > ice-danced to)
>> >
>> T&D ice-danced to Ravel's Bolero.
>
>Yes and they also danced to Caprice Espagnol, in the original set pattern
>dance at the same Olympics - Chris Dean dressed as a matador.
>
>HTH. Your move.
>
Well, I could say that a generous spirit would have assumed the word
"also" between "T&D" and "ice-danced", but instead I'll say that the
correct name of the piece is Cappricio espagnol (note lower case 'e')
or, if you must translate it into English, Spanish Caprice.

HTH.

I suppose we must continue this, so: your move :-)
--
Malcolm

Chris Hill

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In article <831367...@nemesis.nu>, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu>
writes
>In article: <r$xu1AAZN...@spacetime.demon.co.uk> Chris Lawrence
><ne...@spacetime.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Any suggestions for similarly 'powerful' classical music?
>
>Ravel - Bolero (If you can play this without thinking of Bo Derek, then
> you're doing well....)

Possibly the first instance of formal minimalism.

>Elgar - Nimrod, from the Enigma Variations (Patriotic British stuff)
> Pomp and Circumstance (Land of Hope and Glory)

Belting stuff. Last night of the Proms. Bloody marvellous.

>Holst - Mars from the Planets
> Jupiter from the Planets (I vow to thee my country - hymn)

Ditto.

>Orff - O Fortuna from "Carmina Burana" (Get that surf board out)

Ah, but which one? I personally find the second instance to be the most
powerful - coming immediately after Blanziflor et Helena.

>Grieg - In the hall of the mountain king from Peer Gynt

Dum-dum dum-dum dum-dum DUM! dum-dum DUM! dum-dum DUM!

--
Chris Hill
.

Chris Hill

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In article <522245...@nemesis.nu>, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu>
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<snip>

>I'll have Queen - Who wants to live forever followed by R.E.M. Everybody
>Hurts, leaving the funeral to Pink Floyd - Run like hell.

Seasons in the Sun by Terry Jacks.

--
Chris Hill
.

Chris Hill

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In article <r$xu1AAZN...@spacetime.demon.co.uk>, Chris Lawrence
<ne...@spacetime.demon.co.uk> writes

>Just been perusing the classical section in HMV and discovered a CD for
>10 squid - Arias and Choruses from Bach's 'St Matthew Passion'. The
>last track on the CD is the theme music to the film 'Casino' with De
>Niro et al. Playing it on this very meagre sound system makes me wish I
>had Haplo's kit and somewhere to set it up. But through headphones it
>sounds marvellous.
>
>Any suggestions for similarly 'powerful' classical music?
>

Widor's Toccata for Organ (from the 5th Symphony for Organ op. 42 in F).
--
Chris Hill
.

Wijnand Thompson

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In article <926850...@joehutch.demon.co.uk>,

joseph hutcheon <jos...@joehutch.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <DH00LIAL...@zenn.demon.co.uk>
> Mar...@zenn.demon.co.uk "Marcus Durham" writes:

> > In article <j2704DAC...@warboyz.demon.co.uk> Jax
> > <J...@warboyz.demon.co.uk> shared the following with us in demon.local:
> > >A short while ago, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu> burbled........
> > >

> > >>Orff - O Fortuna from "Carmina Burana" (Get that surf board out)
> > >

> > >My personal favourite. I want this played at my funeral.
> > >
> >
> > I want Better Best Forgotten by Steps, followed by the Birdie song.

> "When I'm Dead and Gone" by McGuiness Flint.

'The Laughing Policeman' by Charles Penrose.

Deja vu - we've done this thread before.
Still, this is d.l.

--
Wijnand BV

Wijnand Thompson

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In article <haR88sAb...@spacetime.demon.co.uk>,

Chris Lawrence <ne...@spacetime.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <4902bff4...@walhall.demon.co.uk>, Wijnand Thompson
> <dro...@walhall.demon.co.uk> writes

> >> Any suggestions for similarly 'powerful' classical music?
> >


> >Plenty. Er... how long have you got?

> About ten inches on this particular monitor.

Oh, just a short list then.

First, and most obvious, is:
Bach - St. John Passion

Also:
Bach - Mass in B minor
Bach - Christmas Oratorio

Beethoven - Mass in C major
Beethoven - Missa Solemnis in D major
Beethoven - Christus am Oelberg

Mahler - Symphony No.8
Mahler - Kindertotenlieder

Verdi - Requiem (especially the Dies irae)

Tchaikowsky - Solemn Overture 1812 (not the lollipop version, but the
pucker job complete with choir)

Grieg - Peer Gynt, In The Hall of The Mountain King (see note to 1812)

Berlioz/de l'Isle - La Marseillaise
Berlioz - Marche au Supplice (from Symphonie Fantastique)

Wagner - Einzug der Goetter in Walhall (Das Rheingold)
Wagner - Walkurenritt (Die Walkuere)
Wagner - Trauermarsch (Goetterdaemmerung)

Weber - The 'Wolf's Glen' scene fron Der Freischuetz (scary!)

Sorry it's not a ten-inch list, but I'm not feeling very excited today.
Still, along with the suggestions from others, there's plenty there to
be going on with. And, of course, there are compilation albums galore
of choruses and arias from, mostly, Italian opera.

--
Wijnand BV

John Hall

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In article <jOaK5XAV...@chris-h.demon.co.uk>,

Chris Hill <ch...@chris-h.demon.co.uk> writes:
>Seasons in the Sun by Terry Jacks.

Yuck!
--
John Hall
"Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

[TJD]Rico - The net.being Formerly Known as Friday

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On Sat, 15 May 1999 22:44:34 +0100, Jax <J...@warboyz.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

> A short while ago, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu> burbled........
>
> >Orff - O Fortuna from "Carmina Burana" (Get that surf board out)
>
> My personal favourite. I want this played at my funeral.

Hopefully you'll live for some time yet and you can have it sung live
by the Old Spice Girls.


--
[TJD]Rico, The Justice Department - Friday, to my friends.

[TJD]Rico - The net.being Formerly Known as Friday

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On Sun, 16 May 1999 11:32:03 +0100, Chris Hill
<ch...@chris-h.demon.co.uk> wrote:


> >Grieg - In the hall of the mountain king from Peer Gynt
>
> Dum-dum dum-dum dum-dum DUM! dum-dum DUM! dum-dum DUM!

Ah! Now I get it! (The Devil's Gallop - see, I haven't forgotten old
timers).

Malcolm Ogilvie

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In article <507208...@nemesis.nu>, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu>
writes
>In article: <40kSOPAN...@ogilvie.org> Malcolm Ogilvie
><mal...@ogilvie.org> writes:
>> >
>> Well, I could say that a generous spirit would have assumed the word
>> "also" between "T&D" and "ice-danced"
>
>Ahhh, but you didn't say that though.
>
Bother, you spotted that.

>"Generous spirit" - here ?
>
It *was* a long shot.


>
>> but instead I'll say that the correct name of the piece is Cappricio
>> espagnol (note lower case 'e') or, if you must translate it into English,
>> Spanish Caprice.
>

>Either way can arguably be correct - it suffers from the "Spanglais"
>translation element on English CD's. Alta-Vista searches on either turns up
>about the same number of hits for either.

I'm not interested in what English CDs (no apostrophe required!) say, or
Alta-Vista, the *correct* name is what is listed in, e.g., the Oxford
Dictionary of Music, The Gramophone, and the Penguin Guide.
>
>Now for your bonus triple word score question - which part of said work
>opus 34, did the short extract that T+D danced to come from ?
>
I've no idea and have no interest in finding out - I prefer Radio 3 to
Classic FM (i.e. whole works to extracts), but having read how Dean
worked it is quite likely that it was an arrangement rather than a
direct quote. Bolero was arranged to fit the right length, AIRC.

>Over to you.
>
No, just "over" - I'm watching the cricket :-)
--
Malcolm

Wijnand Thompson

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In article <F5jVZTA7...@jhall.demon.co.uk>,

John Hall <nws_...@jhall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <jOaK5XAV...@chris-h.demon.co.uk>,
> Chris Hill <ch...@chris-h.demon.co.uk> writes:
> >Seasons in the Sun by Terry Jacks.

> Yuck!

Have you ever heard the B-side,
'Put The Bone In'?

--
Wijnand BV

Marcus Durham

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In article <373e7868...@news.demon.co.uk> usenet@[deletethis]

shared the following with us in demon.local:
[snip]
>If you want 'powerful', get anything by Berlioz. This composer is
>famous for his big orchestral sounds.
[snip]

Not forgetting his travel guides.

Jax

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A short while ago, Neil Tungate <ne...@skipper.demon.co.uk>
burbled........
>In article <j2704DAC...@warboyz.demon.co.uk>, dated Sat, 15 May 1999

>22:44:34 +0100, Jax allegedly wrote:
>
>>>Orff - O Fortuna from "Carmina Burana" (Get that surf board out)
>>
>>My personal favourite. I want this played at my funeral.
>
>You want people to go surfing at your funeral?

Now there's a novel burial at sea...

--
Jax Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm

Richard

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In article <kunLhQAj...@chris-h.demon.co.uk>, Chris Hill

<ch...@chris-h.demon.co.uk> wrote
>
>>Grieg - In the hall of the mountain king from Peer Gynt
>
>Dum-dum dum-dum dum-dum DUM! dum-dum DUM! dum-dum DUM!
>
ITYWF that it starts off quieter than that. And slower. Try it again
from the otherside of this door and we'll see if it's any better...

--
Richard (there's a fine line between genius and total insanity)

Si

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|
| Any suggestions for similarly 'powerful' classical music?

Yes!! "MOZART 40" on me new NOKIA.

Kick ass.

Si.

Jax

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A short while ago, rico at justice-department. 0rg. uk <?@?.?>
burbled........
>On Sat, 15 May 1999 22:44:34 +0100, Jax <J...@warboyz.demon.co.uk>
>wrote:

[O Fortuna]

>> My personal favourite. I want this played at my funeral.
>

>Hopefully you'll live for some time yet and you can have it sung live
>by the Old Spice Girls.

<Chuckle>

--
Jax # I have as much rage as you have. I have as much pain as you do.
I've lived as much hell as you have and I've kept mine bubbling
under for you...

Tom Bird

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writes
>
>In article: <j2704DAC...@warboyz.demon.co.uk> Jax
><J...@warboyz.demon.co.uk> writes:
>>
>> A short while ago, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu> burbled........

>>
>> >Orff - O Fortuna from "Carmina Burana" (Get that surf board out)
>>
>> My personal favourite. I want this played at my funeral.
>
>Hmmm - this could spawn a whole new sub-thread....

>
>I'll have Queen - Who wants to live forever followed by R.E.M. Everybody
>Hurts, leaving the funeral to Pink Floyd - Run like hell.

Another one bites the dust?

TB

B.E.Newsam

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Wijnand Thompson Venom writes:
>Wagner - Einzug der Goetter in Walhall (Das Rheingold)

Aaaaah, yes. And to that I would add Allegri's Miserere.
--
Ben

Craig Oldfield

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writes:

> Hmmm - this could spawn a whole new sub-thread....
>
> I'll have Queen - Who wants to live forever followed by R.E.M. Everybody
> Hurts, leaving the funeral to Pink Floyd - Run like hell.

I want Highway to Hell.
--
Craig Oldfield

Chris Lawrence

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In article <926873948.15862.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, Si
<nos...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes

>| Any suggestions for similarly 'powerful' classical music?
>
>Yes!! "MOZART 40" on me new NOKIA.

I'll get his coat...

--
Do we have to be so distant?
How can you be so unreal?

Vivianne Cheshire

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<funerals>


>I'll have Queen - Who wants to live forever followed by R.E.M. Everybody
>Hurts, leaving the funeral to Pink Floyd - Run like hell.

I'm sure it can be arranged.


--
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Snarling, it bit into the ground
Crying in anger!

Malcolm Ogilvie

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In article <672387...@nemesis.nu>, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu>
writes
>In article: <xg6QrwA0...@ogilvie.org> Malcolm Ogilvie
><mal...@ogilvie.org> writes:
>>
>> In article <507208...@nemesis.nu>, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu>
>> writes

>> >"Generous spirit" - here ?


>> >
>> It *was* a long shot.
>

>Indeedy doody.
>
No, don't know that tune.

> the *correct* name is what is listed in, e.g., the Oxford
>> Dictionary of Music, The Gramophone, and the Penguin Guide.
>

>Oh, I'll give you that.
>
Too kind.


>
>> >Now for your bonus triple word score question - which part of said work
>> >opus 34, did the short extract that T+D danced to come from ?

>It's section III - "Alborada"
>
>:-)
>
Thank you. I will file that away in my ever-growing compendium of
useless facts :-)
--
Malcolm

David M-R

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Chris Hill <ch...@chris-h.demon.co.uk> eloquently stated:

>
>>Grieg - In the hall of the mountain king from Peer Gynt
>
>Dum-dum dum-dum dum-dum DUM! dum-dum DUM! dum-dum DUM!
>

Sinclair Spectrum, Manic fucking Miner!!!!!

Arghh
--
David

Si

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Chris Lawrence <ne...@spacetime.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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| In article <926873948.15862.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, Si
| <nos...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
|
| >| Any suggestions for similarly 'powerful' classical music?
| >
| >Yes!! "MOZART 40" on me new NOKIA.
|
| I'll get his coat...

Careful of the rip in the sleeve man.

Si.

Richard Ashton

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} Chris Lawrence <ne...@spacetime.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

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} |
} | Any suggestions for similarly 'powerful' classical music?
}
} Yes!! "MOZART 40" on me new NOKIA.
}

} Kick ass.

Fuckwit.

*plonk*

{R}


Si

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Yes you are! good guess.

Si.

mark horsman

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>In article: <926873948.15862.0...@news.demon.co.uk> "Si"
><nos...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Yes!! "MOZART 40" on me new NOKIA.
>
>Hmmmm.
>
>I feel it is time for a new statute to be passed making the playing of crap
>tunes on mobile phones to be an offence punishable by death.
>
I offered to place one in a bucket of water the other day. It's owner (a
minion) thought I was joking. He's changed it now.
--
mark horsman

Andy Bodkin

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In article <244985...@nemesis.nu>, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu>
writes
>In article: <926873948.15862.0...@news.demon.co.uk> "Si"
><nos...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Yes!! "MOZART 40" on me new NOKIA.
>
>Hmmmm.
>
>I feel it is time for a new statute to be passed making the playing of crap
>tunes on mobile phones to be an offence punishable by death.

Yes, yes, yes, in fact ban the fucking things altogether.

Fucking mobiles, who the fuck thought they were a good idea, eh, I'd
like to meet the inventor and introduce his head to a brick wall at high
velocity. Bastard.

Er, back in control now, only I don't like them in case you hadn't
guessed.

--
Andy Bodkin

KKKKatie

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For brain-blasting through headphones - try Verdi's Requiem. Like the
End of the World happening in your skull - especially the Dies Irae
--
Kate
Need I say more?

Malcolm Ogilvie

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In article <780877...@carterce.demon.co.uk>, KKKKatie
<Ka...@carterce.demon.co.uk> writes

>For brain-blasting through headphones - try Verdi's Requiem. Like the
>End of the World happening in your skull - especially the Dies Irae

That's a mere whisper compared with the 'Tuba mirum' from the Berlioz
Requiem, when the four side orchestras (each of 15 brass and percussion
players) get going to portray the end of the world. It is said that at
the first performance (300 musicians) several of the choir suffered
nervous breakdowns at this point! I've been to a Prom performance in the
Albert Hall - a huge orchestra with dozens of brass, 20 timpani, large
choir, the four side orchestras spaced round the top galleries - the
whole building seemed to vibrate with glorious sound.
--
Malcolm

Pedt Scragg

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Neil Barker used chalk and slate for

>In article: <40kSOPAN...@ogilvie.org> Malcolm Ogilvie
><mal...@ogilvie.org> writes:
>>
>> Well, I could say that a generous spirit would have assumed
>
>"Generous spirit" - here ?
>
Perhaps he's got the distillery on tap ?
--
Pedt

Never curse the Crocodile's mother before crossing the river

Vivianne Cheshire

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May 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/17/99
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In article <780877...@carterce.demon.co.uk>, KKKKatie
<Ka...@carterce.demon.co.uk> writes
>For brain-blasting through headphones - try Verdi's Requiem. Like the
>End of the World happening in your skull - especially the Dies Irae

I remember singing that at school. Lovely to sing but feck if I know
what it all means.

B.E.Newsam

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Malcolm Ogilvie MAO writes:
>I've been to a Prom performance in the
>Albert Hall - a huge orchestra with dozens of brass, 20 timpani, large
>choir, the four side orchestras spaced round the top galleries - the
>whole building seemed to vibrate with glorious sound.

Who conducted it? Davis or Boulez? (Both Berlioz experts). And where did
the people with Gallery Season Tickets stand?
--
Ben

B.E.Newsam

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May 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/17/99
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Vivianne Cheshire The Shire writes:
<Dies Irae>

>I remember singing that at school. Lovely to sing but feck if I know
>what it all means.

The Wrath of God. HTH
--
Ben

Malcolm Ogilvie

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May 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/17/99
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In article <hE8iR7AQH$P3E...@microser.demon.co.uk>, B.E.Newsam
<b...@microser.demon.co.uk> writes

Colin Davis, AIRC. The side orchestras didn't take up the whole of the
gallery, though presumably some people were displaced - perhaps they
were upgraded :-)
--
Malcolm

Chris Lawrence

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May 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/17/99
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In article <926892161.5894.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, Si
<nos...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes

>Richard Ashton <{R}@sunshine.tm> wrote in message
>news:926882471s...@sunshine.tm...

>| Fuckwit.

>Yes you are! good guess.

Er, Simon. By the time you read this, you and I will have had a little
chat over our ASDA sandwiches.

Peter Hutchinson

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May 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/17/99
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On Sun, 16 May 1999 00:18:35 +0100, Marcus Durham <Mar...@zenn.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

> I want Better Best Forgotten by Steps
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^
Never was a song title more appropriate for a group...

--
Peter Hutchinson ne...@phutch.demon.co.uk
Birmingham, UK Is your RAM seated comfortably? Then we'll begin...

Peter Hutchinson

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On Sun, 16 May 1999 11:32:03 +0100, Chris Hill <ch...@chris-h.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

> >Orff - O Fortuna from "Carmina Burana" (Get that surf board out)
>

> Ah, but which one? I personally find the second instance to be the most
> powerful - coming immediately after Blanziflor et Helena.

Agreed, much better with the build-up of the penultimate chorus IMO. Sang
the whole thing with massed choirs and the Halle in Manchester once upon a
time, when they still lived in the FTH. Raised the roof. Another personal
favourite is Bernstein's Chichester Psalms, a performance of which we
released on CD with the BBC Phil.

This is bringing back memories from the deep :-) Sadly, I never seem to
have the time for such musical pursuits these days -- something I really
regret.

Also recommended highly off top of head:
- Rutter, Requiem
- Liszt, "Prelude and Fuge on B-A-C-H" (shakes the foundations when played
on a powerful enough organ)
- Saint-Saens, Allegro from Symphony #3
- Widor, Toccata from Symphony #5 for organ (you need about six hands to
play this one fully!)
- much of Bach

John Hall

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May 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/17/99
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In article <244985...@nemesis.nu>,

Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu> writes:
>I feel it is time for a new statute to be passed making the playing of crap
>tunes on mobile phones to be an offence punishable by death.

Seconded. And given the somewhat limited sound quality of a mobile
phone, *any* tune played on it is going to sound like a crap tune.
--
John Hall "Do you have cornflakes in America?"
"Well, actually, they're American."
"So what brings you to Britain then if you have cornflakes already?"
Bill Bryson: "Notes from a Small Island"

Richard

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May 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/17/99
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In article <244985...@nemesis.nu>, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu>
wrote

>
>I feel it is time for a new statute to be passed making the playing of crap
>tunes on mobile phones to be an offence punishable by death.
>
Or - if driving - death is an offence punishable by the playing of crap
tunes on mobile phones...

--
Richard (there's a fine line between genius and total insanity)

Richard

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In article <I6tza7Ah...@microser.demon.co.uk>, B.E.Newsam
<b...@microser.demon.co.uk> wrote

>Allegri's Miserere.

Isn't that a bid in Bridge?

Si

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Chris Lawrence <ne...@spacetime.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ERFF+JAJ...@spacetime.demon.co.uk...

| In article <926892161.5894.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, Si
| <nos...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
|
| >Richard Ashton <{R}@sunshine.tm> wrote in message
| >news:926882471s...@sunshine.tm...
| >| Fuckwit.
|
| >Yes you are! good guess.
|
| Er, Simon. By the time you read this, you and I will have had a little
| chat over our ASDA sandwiches.

Spooky.

BTW everyone, you've got to eat an ASDA "Jaws", if you can.

Si.

Chris Hill

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In article <373f67fc...@news.news.demon.net>, Peter Hutchinson
<phu...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes

<snip>

>- Widor, Toccata from Symphony #5 for organ (you need about six hands to
> play this one fully!)

I voted for this one! I did! I did!

Actually, two hands and two feet are sufficient. Mind you, they have to
be bloody well co-ordinated, esp the hands. Part of the difficulty of
the piece is that it never lets up throughout its entire length.
Semiquaver arppegios in one hand with anacrusic quaver/semiquavers in
the other, and the hands swap over frequently. Interesting exercise to
analyse the harmony.

When I was at school the end of term church services often ended with
one of the music teachers playing this on full church organ. Very
impressive.
--
Chris Hill
.

Malcolm Ogilvie

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May 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/17/99
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In article <373f67fc...@news.news.demon.net>, Peter Hutchinson
<phu...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes

>- Widor, Toccata from Symphony #5 for organ (you need about six hands to
> play this one fully!)

Not if you use your feet, too, which most organists do :-)
--
Malcolm

David M-R

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May 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/17/99
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KKKKatie <Ka...@carterce.demon.co.uk> eloquently stated:

>For brain-blasting through headphones

That reminds me... my Sennheisers are knackered. Must get some new ones.

>- try Verdi's Requiem. Like the
>End of the World happening in your skull

You are very weird.... but I like it :)

--
David

David M-R

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May 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/17/99
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Julia Jones <demo...@nospam.demon.co.uk> eloquently stated:

>>
>>I feel it is time for a new statute to be passed making the playing of crap
>>tunes on mobile phones to be an offence punishable by death.
>>

>Having been in a meeting where a pager warbled and four of the five
>people present reached for their pager, I can see the point of having
>different tunes available.

I have a cunning plan. My phone has 25 different tunes. 24 of them are
annoying. The one I use goes "Riiiiing"

It's great. No bugger else uses it.

>
>I still hate them.

<AOL>
--
David

Peter Hutchinson

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May 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/18/99
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On Mon, 17 May 1999 21:08:14 +0100, Chris Hill <ch...@chris-h.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

> Actually, two hands and two feet are sufficient. Mind you, they have to


> be bloody well co-ordinated, esp the hands.

Thank you Mr Pedant, yes I did appreciate that, having played the organ in
anger frequently, before I moved down here. It's more the fact that, by
half-way through, your fingers feel like they're about to drop off with the
effort, than anything else :-)

Pete

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May 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/18/99
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In article <bcSakiAo...@ogilvie.org>, Malcolm Ogilvie
<mal...@ogilvie.org> writes
>
>Especially as in another thread there was a comment about keeping a
>mobile in one's underpants....:-)

For those of you who keep their mobile on their belts:

New research *seems* to indicate a danger in keeping a powerful radio
transmitter so close to one's gonads...

--
Pete

Chris Lawrence

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May 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/18/99
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In article <5V0CGXAx...@ogilvie.org>, Malcolm Ogilvie
<mal...@ogilvie.org> writes

>>- Widor, Toccata from Symphony #5 for organ (you need about six hands to

>> play this one fully!)
>
>Not if you use your feet, too, which most organists do :-)

How do they spread their toes for the trickier chords?

--
What we cannot speak about
we must pass over in silence.

Malcolm Ogilvie

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May 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/18/99
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In article <ePmjJFA6...@spacetime.demon.co.uk>, Chris Lawrence
<ne...@spacetime.demon.co.uk> writes

>In article <5V0CGXAx...@ogilvie.org>, Malcolm Ogilvie
><mal...@ogilvie.org> writes
>
>>>- Widor, Toccata from Symphony #5 for organ (you need about six hands to
>>> play this one fully!)
>>
>>Not if you use your feet, too, which most organists do :-)
>
>How do they spread their toes for the trickier chords?
>
Wide.

HTH.
--
Malcolm

Tom Bird

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May 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/18/99
to demon.local
In article <671549...@thebrink.demon.co.uk>, Craig Oldfield
<Cr...@thebrink.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>In article: <96Fg0ZAn...@benevolent.demon.co.uk> Andrew Wilkes
><ne...@benevolent.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Its a shame that you can't surreptitiously program phones to have a ring
>> that sounds like a fart.
>
>This may be possible with the correct mixture of tones although it
> would be more spectacular if you could fart like the tone of a mobile phone.

'tis an ancient art, you must learn several different levels of clench
and also change between these up to 3 times per second.

TB

Wijnand Thompson

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May 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/18/99
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In article <I6tza7Ah...@microser.demon.co.uk>,
B.E.Newsam <b...@microser.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Wijnand Thompson Venom writes:
> >Wagner - Einzug der Goetter in Walhall (Das Rheingold)

> Aaaaah, yes. And to that I would add Allegri's Miserere.

I have a feeling that I should here mention Mozart, K. 522.

Talking of musical jokes: earlier this evening, I stuck my
head round the living room door to find Janet watching some
soap opera with a funeral in progress. The music which the
organist was playing sounded rather suspiciously like Bach's
'Sleepers Awake!'!

Anyways; as I am feeling rather more excited today, here are
a few more inches of list for Chris:

Dukas - L'Apprenti Sorcier (a masterpiece of orchestration)

Saint-Saens - Danse Macabre
Saint-Saens - Symphony No.3 (Organ Symphony)

Holst - Saturn, from The Planets (not as dramatic as Mars but
certainly more powerful)

Ravel - La Valse (a much better piece of music, in my opinion,
than Bolero; certainly more dramatic and not
a little unsettling)

Mussorgsky - Night on the Bare Mountain (not the lollipop version,
but the re-worked version with chorus used in Mlada)

Franck - Le Chasseur Maudit

Stravinsky - Le Sacre du Printemps

Shostakovitch - Symphony No.7 (Leningrad)

Tippett - A Child of our Time

Walton - Belshazzar's Feast

--
Wijnand BV

Peter Hutchinson

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May 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/18/99
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On Sun, 16 May 1999 22:23:09 +0100, Julia Jones
<demo...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Having been in a meeting where a pager warbled and four of the five
> people present reached for their pager, I can see the point of having
> different tunes available.

Better still, if they're in a meeting, why the hell don't they set them to
vibrate? Bloody idiots, piss me off every time...

Peter Hutchinson

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May 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/18/99
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On Mon, 17 May 1999 00:43:05 +0100, Chris Lawrence
<ne...@spacetime.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> >Yes you are! good guess.
>
> Er, Simon. By the time you read this, you and I will have had a little
> chat over our ASDA sandwiches.

Thank god, someone's going to forcibly insert a little clue[tm]...

Craig Oldfield

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May 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/18/99
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In article: <374076ae...@news.news.demon.net>
phu...@nospam.demon.co.uk (Peter Hutchinson) writes:

> Better still, if they're in a meeting, why the hell don't they set them
> to
> vibrate?

Because not all mobiles have a silent ring perhaps?
--
Craig Oldfield

Malcolm Ogilvie

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May 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/18/99
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In article <374076ae...@news.news.demon.net>, Peter Hutchinson
<phu...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes

>On Sun, 16 May 1999 22:23:09 +0100, Julia Jones
><demo...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Having been in a meeting where a pager warbled and four of the five
>> people present reached for their pager, I can see the point of having
>> different tunes available.
>
>Better still, if they're in a meeting, why the hell don't they set them to
>vibrate?
>
Especially as in another thread there was a comment about keeping a
mobile in one's underpants....:-)
--
Malcolm

Andrew Wilkes

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May 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/18/99
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In article <740859...@thebrink.demon.co.uk>, Craig Oldfield
<Cr...@thebrink.demon.co.uk> writes

>In article: <374076ae...@news.news.demon.net>
>phu...@nospam.demon.co.uk (Peter Hutchinson) writes:
>
>> Better still, if they're in a meeting, why the hell don't they set them
>> to
>> vibrate?
>
>Because not all mobiles have a silent ring perhaps?

Its a shame that you can't surreptitiously program phones to have a ring
that sounds like a fart. I'd love to see their faces in meetings/on the
train when their *ahem* ring made that noise.
--
regards andyw

Craig Oldfield

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> Its a shame that you can't surreptitiously program phones to have a ring
> that sounds like a fart.

This may be possible with the correct mixture of tones although it

would be more spectacular if you could fart like the tone of a mobile phone.

--
Craig Oldfield


Chris Hill

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May 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/18/99
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In article <294014...@nemesis.nu>, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu>
writes
>In article: <HQbjuHAu...@chris-h.demon.co.uk> Chris Hill
><ch...@chris-h.demon.co.uk> writes:
>>
>> In article <373f67fc...@news.news.demon.net>, Peter Hutchinson
>> <phu...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
>>
>> <snip>

>>
>> >- Widor, Toccata from Symphony #5 for organ (you need about six hands to
>> > play this one fully!)
>>
>> I voted for this one! I did! I did!
>
>Perhaps not for the purists, but I did like the version of Toccata done by
>SKY some years back.
>

Interesting... there is a version of the Widor piece which was done on
synthesisers - it appeared on an album called "Masterworks". Some of the
keyboard work on the Widor piece was by Francis Monkman who was...

Wait for it...

The keyboard player with Sky when they did the Bach Toccata you are
referring to.

So there you go.
--
Chris Hill
.

Chris Lawrence

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May 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/18/99
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In article <a0X4AIA4...@glost.demon.co.uk>, Pete
<{Pete}@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes

>New research *seems* to indicate a danger in keeping a powerful radio
>transmitter so close to one's gonads...

You could accidentally catch yer clackerbag under the morse key.

B.E.Newsam

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May 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/19/99
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Richard * writes:
>In article <I6tza7Ah...@microser.demon.co.uk>, B.E.Newsam
><b...@microser.demon.co.uk> wrote
>
>>Allegri's Miserere.
>
>Isn't that a bid in Bridge?

No ;-) It was written to be sung in the Sistine Chapel in total
darkness, at Easter. The score was considered secret so nobody else
could perform the work. The story goes that Mozart heard it once, and
correctly wrote out the entire eleven minute piece from memory.
--
Ben

Nancy Boston

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May 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/19/99
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In article <490457af...@walhall.demon.co.uk>, Wijnand Thompson
<dro...@walhall.demon.co.uk> writes
>
<selectively snipped>

>Saint-Saens - Danse Macabre
>Saint-Saens - Symphony No.3 (Organ Symphony)

Great stuff - and what's that one by Ibert that's sort of similar?

>Ravel - La Valse (a much better piece of music, in my opinion,
> than Bolero; certainly more dramatic and not
> a little unsettling)

And the Dead Dauphine one


>
>Shostakovitch - Symphony No.7 (Leningrad)

This would have been in my list if I could have been arsed to do one :)

--
NancyB
"When I have nothing to say, my lips are sealed
Say something once, why say it again?" (David Byrne)

Peter Hutchinson

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On Tue, 18 May 1999 06:47:07 +0100, Cr...@thebrink.demon.co.uk (Craig
Oldfield) wrote:

> Because not all mobiles have a silent ring perhaps?

We were talking about pagers. I've yet to see one that doesn't.

Peter Hutchinson

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On Tue, 18 May 1999 20:21:28 +0100, Pete <{Pete}@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> For those of you who keep their mobile on their belts:

They deserve everything they get. Bloody posers...

Richard

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May 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/19/99
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In article <OdwkPPA4...@jajones.demon.co.uk>, Julia Jones
<demo...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote
>>
>Not all pagers/mobiles can be used as sex toys.

Define *all*. You Shirley can't have tested *every* model...

David M-R

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May 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/19/99
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Neil Tungate <ne...@skipper.demon.co.uk> eloquently stated:

[Sennheisers]

>I can recommend the model 455.
>

How much? The annoying thing is, that it is the cable that is the cause
of the problem. I could buy a replacement cable, but it costs almost as
much as a new pair of phones, for the model I have. (450's)
--
David

mark horsman

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May 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/19/99
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In article <hMDWEEA+...@dbqa.demon.co.uk>, Tom Bird
<ham...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <671549...@thebrink.demon.co.uk>, Craig Oldfield
><Cr...@thebrink.demon.co.uk> writes

>>This may be possible with the correct mixture of tones although it
>> would be more spectacular if you could fart like the tone of a mobile phone.
>
>'tis an ancient art, you must learn several different levels of clench
>and also change between these up to 3 times per second.
>
The Second Mate's name was Carter ...
--
mark horsman

Vivianne Cheshire

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May 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/19/99
to
In article <S3fxvXAG...@horsmanm.freeserve.co.uk>, mark horsman
<ma...@horsmanm.freeserve.co.uk> writes

>>
>The Second Mate's name was Carter ...

The figurehead was nude in bed....

Sorry, wrong song.

--
The sky frowned and spat.
Snarling, it bit into the ground
Crying in anger!

Geep

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May 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/20/99
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In article <25536...@nemesis.nu>, Neil Barker <Ne...@nemesis.nu>
writes
>In article: <qmwdBLA5...@jajones.demon.co.uk> Julia Jones
><demo...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
> (Vibrating pagers)
>
>> Yes, I probably would have tried it, even if only for a giggle at a late
>> night room party at a con. But I don't suppose it would be any more
>> entertaining than sitting on a washing machine doing spin cycle.
>
>The pager company would probably get a bit suspicious when the same number
>kept getting bleeped constantly....
>
Overheard at 'PagerHQ'

"Hmm. Someone's fannying about with their pager ... "
--
Graeme

Malcolm Ogilvie

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May 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/20/99
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In article <gwsicXAuNrQ3Ewy$@microser.demon.co.uk>, B.E.Newsam
<b...@microser.demon.co.uk> writes

And he was only about 12 years old at the time.
--
Malcolm

KKKKatie

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May 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/20/99
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In article <927191896s...@sunshine.tm>

{Reply}@sunshine.tm "Richard Ashton" writes:

> } The Second Mate's name was Carter ...

> My god he was a Farter
> When the wind did'nt blow
> And the ship didn't go
> They got Carter the Farter to start 'er

This "verse" brings back all sorts of horrible memories of my secondary
school. It was whispered in my ears and scrawled on my books,
and was part of a long and elaborate scheme of bullying
which included emptying my desk, eating my packed lunch, destroying
my homework, stealing my sports' gear and constant sniggering.

I was desperate for excuses not to go to school and for some bizarre
reason it never crossed my mind to tell anyone until it had been
going on for about 3 years.

--
Kate
Need I say more?


John Hall

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May 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/20/99
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In article <927220...@carterce.demon.co.uk>,
KKKKatie <Ka...@carterce.demon.co.uk> writes:
[snip story of school bullying]

>I was desperate for excuses not to go to school and for some bizarre
>reason it never crossed my mind to tell anyone until it had been
>going on for about 3 years.

Once you accept the rather unlikely premise, I think "Lord of the Flies"
is all too believable.
--
John Hall

"I don't even butter my bread; I consider that cooking."
Katherine Cebrian

Malcolm Ogilvie

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>In article <927191896s...@sunshine.tm>
> {Reply}@sunshine.tm "Richard Ashton" writes:
>
>> } The Second Mate's name was Carter ...
>> My god he was a Farter
>> When the wind did'nt blow
>> And the ship didn't go
>> They got Carter the Farter to start 'er
>
>This "verse" brings back all sorts of horrible memories of my secondary
>school. It was whispered in my ears and scrawled on my books,
>and was part of a long and elaborate scheme of bullying
>which included emptying my desk, eating my packed lunch, destroying
>my homework, stealing my sports' gear and constant sniggering.
>
>I was desperate for excuses not to go to school and for some bizarre
>reason it never crossed my mind to tell anyone until it had been
>going on for about 3 years.
>
>--
>Kate
>Need I say more?
>
No, I don't think you need :-(
--
Malcolm

Malcolm Ogilvie

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May 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/20/99
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In article <fkswBcAJ...@jajones.demon.co.uk>, Julia Jones
<demo...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
>x-no-archive: yes
>
>In article <3741c9ac...@news.news.demon.net>, Peter Hutchinson
><phu...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes

>>On Tue, 18 May 1999 20:21:28 +0100, Pete <{Pete}@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> For those of you who keep their mobile on their belts:
>>
>>They deserve everything they get. Bloody posers...
>>
>We've had this conversation before, but...some of us don't have anywhere
>else to keep the bloody things. (For those who've forgotten, tight jeans
>and tee-shirt, and no you can't have a jpeg.)

Spoilsport!

Also, if finding somewhere "to keep the bloody things" is a problem, why
not change your attire? Not that I would want you to, of course, oh no -
"tight jeans and tee-shirt" - nurse, NURSE, where are my heart pills?
--
Malcolm

Chris Hill

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May 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/20/99
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<snip bullying>

I can sympathise with this.

You know, I really think all this "forgive and forget" bollocks is a
load of pacifist shite. There are certain people from my past who will,
if I ever meet them again, be experiencing the inside of a casualty
department within the hour. I suspect that in the intervening years I
have become infinitely more physically capable than they could ever
possibly imagine.

As far as I am concerned, if someone deliberately goes out of their way
to make life unpleasant for you for no good reason[1], then the fucker
deserves everything that's coming to them.

Sorry about the rantette there, you kind of struck a nerve.

[1] Could there ever be a good reason?
--
Chris Hill
.

Sue H

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In article <wwxI7fAJ$FR3...@jhall.demon.co.uk>, John Hall
<nws_...@jhall.demon.co.uk> writes>[snip story of school bullying]

>>I was desperate for excuses not to go to school and for some bizarre
>>reason it never crossed my mind to tell anyone until it had been
>>going on for about 3 years.
>
>Once you accept the rather unlikely premise, I think "Lord of the Flies"
>is all too believable.

Certainly - it's a very scary thought.
--
Sue H

Sue H

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May 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/20/99
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>In article <927191896s...@sunshine.tm>
> {Reply}@sunshine.tm "Richard Ashton" writes:
>
>> } The Second Mate's name was Carter ...
>> My god he was a Farter
>> When the wind did'nt blow
>> And the ship didn't go
>> They got Carter the Farter to start 'er
>
>This "verse" brings back all sorts of horrible memories of my secondary
>school. It was whispered in my ears and scrawled on my books,
>and was part of a long and elaborate scheme of bullying
>which included emptying my desk, eating my packed lunch, destroying
>my homework, stealing my sports' gear and constant sniggering.
>
>I was desperate for excuses not to go to school and for some bizarre
>reason it never crossed my mind to tell anyone until it had been
>going on for about 3 years.

:(

There was one particular girl who used to pick on me *constantly* all
the way through secondary school, and I never did say anything to anyone
until after I'd left. Nor did I ever find out why she used to do it.
--
Sue H

mark horsman

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In article <RL80W8AJ...@vanillapod.demon.co.uk>, Vivianne Cheshire
<vivi...@vanillapod.demon.co.uk> writes

>In article <S3fxvXAG...@horsmanm.freeserve.co.uk>, mark horsman
><ma...@horsmanm.freeserve.co.uk> writes

>>>
>>The Second Mate's name was Carter ...
>
>The figurehead was nude in bed....
>
>Sorry, wrong song.
>
No, same song IIRC :)
--
mark horsman

David M-R

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May 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/21/99
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Neil Tungate <ne...@skipper.demon.co.uk> eloquently stated:

>

>>>I can recommend the model 455.
>>>

[snip]

>
>I think they were around 50-60 sovs in the local John Lewis store a year or
>so ago.
>

That sounds reasonable. Now how long to pay day?... ;)
--
David

David M-R

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May 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/21/99
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Neil Tungate <ne...@skipper.demon.co.uk> eloquently stated:

>In article <Jw$M7CBpw...@dimmer.demon.co.uk>, dated Mon, 17 May 1999
>23:46:01 +0100, David M-R allegedly wrote:
>
>>I have a cunning plan. My phone has 25 different tunes. 24 of them are
>>annoying. The one I use goes "Riiiiing"
>>
>>It's great. No bugger else uses it.
>
>I do -

Damn, something in common. Does this mean that my latent conservatism is
beginning to show? All these years of supporting Labour, trying to fit
in, to be normal, and all the time my capitalist urges were screaming to
be let out of the closet.

> so keep away from me with your phone :)

I would never abuse a revered local Councillor with a mobile <g> [1]
--
David
[1] Now a land phone is a different story entirely

David M-R

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May 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/21/99
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Julia Jones <demo...@nospam.demon.co.uk> eloquently stated:

>..
>>
>We've had this conversation before, but...some of us don't have anywhere
>else to keep the bloody things. (For those who've forgotten, tight jeans
>and tee-shirt, and no you can't have a jpeg.)

Handbags?

Blurry wimmin
--
David

David M-R

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May 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/21/99
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Julia Jones <demo...@nospam.demon.co.uk> eloquently stated:

>Not all pagers/mobiles can be used as sex toys.

<mode=panto>
Oh yes they can
</m>
--
David

Wijnand Thompson

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May 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/21/99
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In article <lDxlTyAn...@ogilvie.org>,

Malcolm Ogilvie <mal...@ogilvie.org> wrote:
> In article <gwsicXAuNrQ3Ewy$@microser.demon.co.uk>, B.E.Newsam
> <b...@microser.demon.co.uk> writes
> >Richard * writes:
> >>In article <I6tza7Ah...@microser.demon.co.uk>, B.E.Newsam
> >><b...@microser.demon.co.uk> wrote
> >>
> >>>Allegri's Miserere.
> >>
> >>Isn't that a bid in Bridge?
> >
> >No ;-) It was written to be sung in the Sistine Chapel in total
> >darkness, at Easter. ...

> >The story goes that Mozart heard it once, and
> >correctly wrote out the entire eleven minute piece from memory.

> And he was only about 12 years old at the time.

14 - Mozart spent most of his twelfth year in Wien.

Leopold and Wolfgang were in Rome during Easter, 1770,
when Wolfgang was 14, and when the alleged incident is
supposed to have taken place.

--
Wijnand BV

Wijnand Thompson

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May 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/21/99
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In article <fBN3RKAl$sQ3...@bostons3.demon.co.uk>,

Nancy Boston <nan...@bostons3.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <490457af...@walhall.demon.co.uk>, Wijnand Thompson
> <dro...@walhall.demon.co.uk> writes
> >
> <selectively snipped>
> >Saint-Saens - Danse Macabre
> >Saint-Saens - Symphony No.3 (Organ Symphony)

> Great stuff - and what's that one by Ibert that's sort of similar?

I have to admit that I have never been keen on
Ibert, (my loss, I know); about the only thing
I know of his is the Divertissement for Chamber
Orchestra. I find it pleasant, but it doesn't
do much else for me.

> >Ravel - La Valse (a much better piece of music, in my opinion,
> > than Bolero; certainly more dramatic and not
> > a little unsettling)

> And the Dead Dauphine one

Pavane Pour une Infante Defunte.

> >Shostakovitch - Symphony No.7 (Leningrad)

> This would have been in my list if I could have been arsed to do one :)

Apropos which: this evening's concert on Classic FM,
at 9:00 pm, is a live broadcast of Shostakovitch's
Symphony No.5 and Stravinsky's Le Sacre du Printemps by
the Boston Philharmonic, a very enthusiastic orchestra,
conducted by Benjamin Zander (sp?).

--
Wijnand BV

Tom Bird

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May 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/21/99
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>This "verse" brings back all sorts of horrible memories of my secondary


>school. It was whispered in my ears and scrawled on my books,
>and was part of a long and elaborate scheme of bullying
>which included emptying my desk, eating my packed lunch, destroying
>my homework, stealing my sports' gear and constant sniggering.

:( not nice.

>I was desperate for excuses not to go to school and for some bizarre
>reason it never crossed my mind to tell anyone until it had been
>going on for about 3 years.

I remember once, someone took an irrational dislike to me. Fat bastard,
thought it was funny to stick his arse in my face and so on until after
a couple of weeks, I grabbed his fat little neck and told him that if he
ever shoved his arse in my face again, I'd ram this pencil (motioning to
pencil on desk) so far up it, he'd sneeze pencil shavings for a year.

And it worked.

To quote someone I know, "be more grrr!".

TB

Malcolm Ogilvie

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May 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/21/99
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In article <4905c511...@walhall.demon.co.uk>, Wijnand Thompson
<dro...@walhall.demon.co.uk> writes
You are quite right, 14 it was, I just hadn't bothered to look it up. My
dictionary suggests that he heard it more than once before writing it
out. I have heard the story that he wrote it out and then took it along
to another performance to check it.
--
Malcolm

Malcolm Ogilvie

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May 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/21/99
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In article <4905c662...@walhall.demon.co.uk>, Wijnand Thompson
<dro...@walhall.demon.co.uk> writes

>In article <fBN3RKAl$sQ3...@bostons3.demon.co.uk>,
> Nancy Boston <nan...@bostons3.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Great stuff - and what's that one by Ibert that's sort of similar?
>
>I have to admit that I have never been keen on
>Ibert, (my loss, I know); about the only thing
>I know of his is the Divertissement for Chamber
>Orchestra. I find it pleasant, but it doesn't
>do much else for me.

Substantially larger than a chamber orchestra, I would have thought, as
it includes brass and percussion. I once attended a performance of the
Divertissement in Bristol. Towards the end, the percussionist blows a
police whistle. In the Colston Hall there are audience seats just behind
the audience as well as in front. To the enormous delight of everyone,
the percussionist held the whistle for a small boy to blow one of the
required blasts, which he did, perfectly in time.
--
Malcolm

Tobermory Shellfish & Diving Services

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In article <Z$1UFAAQD...@chris-h.demon.co.uk>, Chris Hill
<ch...@chris-h.demon.co.uk> writes

><Ka...@carterce.demon.co.uk> writes
>
><snip bullying>
>
>I can sympathise with this.

>As far as I am concerned, if someone deliberately goes out of their way
>to make life unpleasant for you for no good reason[1], then the fucker
>deserves everything that's coming to them.

I have found that "What goes around , comes around" and that twisted
bast**ds usually get their come uppance.
The most important thing is not to carry a grudge. This can end up
turning you, into the very thing they were.(Twisted and vindictive)

However when at last they do get theirs, and the sh*t of the day falls
on them, it is nice to have a little stir.


---
Steve-- @Tobshell

Michael McConnell

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On Sun, 16 May 1999, Marcus Durham wrote:

> In article <373e7868...@news.demon.co.uk> usenet@[deletethis]
> shared the following with us in demon.local:
> [snip]
> >If you want 'powerful', get anything by Berlioz. This composer is
> >famous for his big orchestral sounds.
> [snip]
>
> Not forgetting his travel guides.

That was Berlitz. Not to be confused with an event that occured in the
Second World War.

-- Michael "Soruk" McConnell [Red Hat 6.0 Available!]
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Email: rhl...@amush.cx http://www.amush.cx/linux/ Fax: +44-8701-600807


mark horsman

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In article <927220...@carterce.demon.co.uk>, KKKKatie
<Ka...@carterce.demon.co.uk> writes
<snip bullying>
>

>I was desperate for excuses not to go to school and for some bizarre
>reason it never crossed my mind to tell anyone until it had been
>going on for about 3 years.
>
Being smaller than most of my schoolmates, (I grew to my present size
very late) I can sympathise. We have always tried to make sure the two
boys were not bullied at school. Probably interfered too much and
overcompensated. Can't *ever* win.
--
mark horsman

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