Dixons PC World Disaster Area
James Follett
What the hell's gone wrong with PC World? A 4000 square foot
branch has recently opened in Guildford, and in all honesty
their buyer ought to be taken into the corner of an isolated
field in the small hours and be quietly done away with. He or
she has to be the most incompetent, bungling, swamp-dwelling,
wall-eyed, arsehole on the face of this planet. What is
laughingly called their brain can be little more than a smear of
rancid toad smegma on the inside of their shrunken, misshapen
cranium.
My usual suppliers of PC bits and bobs are two tiny shops tucked
away in Guildford's back streets: Direction Technology and Data
Bits. Both stock just about everything to do with PCs. One day I
needed a few odds and ends but curiousity took me to the new PC
World.
On entering this so-called superstore one is presented with the
spectacle of dozens of `Bulldog' flatpack work-stations -- in
other words -- desks -- piled to the ceiling. Not just one pile,
but two! At least Dixons have had the decency to assemble one so
that any potential customer stupid enough to contemplete buying
one of these concoctions of low-density 15mm chipboard crap can
see what they are getting. A desk to comfortably accomodate a PC
must be at least 900mm wide and has to be reasonably sturdy to
support a printer. The Dixon's `Bulldog' desk is neither. It is,
without a doubt, the most uncomfortable thing I've ever sat at,
and as flimsy as a pair of Essex girl's knickers that have done
10,000 miles as an emergency fanbelt. It has a bracing crossbar
positioned in just the right place to rip the skin off shins.
Also by the main door one is confronted by a monster pile of
grossly-overpriced one-ream packs of copying paper, nicely
positioned to keep the moisture content of the sheets high so
that they'll jam in just about any copier or printer.
It gets worse as one ventures further into the store's vastness.
One whole display is devoted to several metres of coloured mouse
mats and keyboard wrist rests. Not merely a modest selection,
but dozens of them. Obviously the buyer envisaged long queues
out of the store and onto the A3 filled six-deep with customers
anxious to buy mouse mats. Another display was crammed with
boxes containing Reveal FM radio cards. I counted close on 50.
`Turn your PC into a radio receiver!' Wow! Sterio? Oh dear me
no, not even a station ident feature. Again, the buyer fondly
imagined that Guildford is crammed with customers who just can't
wait to turn their PCs into radios.
Another display consisted of about 100 boxes, each the size of a
Kellogg's cornflakes packet, and each containing one 4-meg simm.
It turned out that this is the only memory Dixons stock. Price?
100 quid each! The PC shelves seemed to be stuffed full of the
worst PCs ever foisted on an undeserving public: Packard Bells.
It is as if the Dixon's buyer went out into the world market
determined to buy-in machines to test their returns procedure
and the patience of their long-suffering customers, assuming
they have any.
I had a simple shopping list of very ordinary PC parts but was
unable to find them on the shelves so I approached what Dixon's
laughingly call the customer service counter.
`I need a standard PC power supply please.'
The assistant's eyes glazed over and he appeared to go into a
state of shock. `What sort of power supply?' he muttered.
I pointed to the several acres of Packard Bells. `The same as
in all those machines. There's one in each PC. They go bang with
boring regularity. One of mine has gone bang. I need a new one.'
He cheered up. `We no longer stock them, sir. Try Direction
Technology or Data Bits in the town.'
Next item on the list: a 40-way IDE ribbon cable.
`Sorry, sir. Try Direction Technology or Data Bits.'
`How about a Sony CD audio lead?'
Same response.
At this point my imagination took off and I started asking
for all manner of mundane PC parts that I didn't need but was
prepared to buy if they had them in stock. But my money was
safe: floppy drives, mounting frames, packets of jumpers, CPU
fans -- all either not stocked or out of stock.
My last query was: `Why do all your prices exclude VAT?'
`We cater mainly for businesses, sir.'
`But no business would pay those prices for paper. I
certainly wouldn't.'
`We don't sell much paper,' he agreed.
I pointed to the vast games section and politely asked if
they sold copies of `Command-n-Conquer' in bulk to local
businesses. I also pointed out that their adjoining Curry's
store was trying to flog the same Packard Bell PCs but their
price labels included VAT.
His eyes lit up in triumph. At last he had an answer. `Ah --
Currys cater for the general public, sir.'
The morale of this story is plain: members of the public are
not welcome in Dixons' PC Worlds. In this respect their
marketing strategy has been an unqualified success: there were
only six members of the public in the Guildford store including
myself. And one of those was returning CD-ROM drive because it
didn't include an audio lead!
James Follett -- novelist
Chris Howard
<ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Dixons' PC World Disaster Area
Nice one.
We have a replica of this 'Superstore' in Leeds - Also staffed by
animated cardboard cutouts. They do provide an excellent car park
though.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I don't have any solution -
but I certainly admire the problem
Chris Howard c...@apollo.demon.co.uk
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KKKKatie
c...@apollo.demon.co.uk "Chris Howard" writes:
> >Dixons' PC World Disaster Area
>
> Nice one.
> We have a replica of this 'Superstore' in Leeds - Also staffed by
> animated cardboard cutouts. They do provide an excellent car park
> though.
So useful if you want to go to Sainsbury's Homebase as I did only the
other day for wallpaper for the attic!!! Yes folks we are finally getting
on to the decorating.
Welcome to D.local Chris, another person of similar orthography will no
doubt be along to welcome you in a moment.
Another Leedsian eh? Have you met Richard?
Kate
--
They told me the thing just couldn't be done
With a smile I went right to it
I tackled the thing that couldn't be done
And found that I couldn't do it.
Friday
ja...@marage.demon.co.uk "James Follett" writes:
> Dixons' PC World Disaster Area
[...]
> James Follett -- rantmaster extraordinaire
*chuckle* Serves you damn right for even *thinking* of going in!
I hope you screwed up a few configs before you left. I usually
do. Well, they have to earn their keep somehow, and they certainly
don't do it by assisting the customer.
--
Et cetera. Et cetera. Et cetera.
Chris Howard
wrote:
> Yes folks we are finally getting on to the decorating.
>Welcome to D.local Chris, another person of similar orthography will no
>doubt be along to welcome you in a moment.
>
>Another Leedsian eh? Have you met Richard?
Alas no. Nearer Skipton. I just had to see what the place was like.
Richard Steele
I didn't realise it was you; hi again,
....[s]... six people in the shop including
>myself. And one of those was returning CD-ROM drive because it
>didn't include an audio lead!
Silly Bugger.
Fancy being daft enough to buy _anything_ from Dixons.
>
>James Follett -- novelist
Not you. Him. er Her. er that person.
;)
--
Richard Steele
Sitting in a squeaky chair
Richard Steele
In article <828196...@carterce.demon.co.uk>, KKKKatie
<Ka...@carterce.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>Welcome to D.local Chris, another person of similar orthography will no
>doubt be along to welcome you in a moment.
>
>Another Leedsian eh? Have you met Richard?
Moi?
Ah don't cum from Leeds, an ah wunt if yerasted mi.
How about you Richard?
Not you, pill, the other one. ;)
>
>Kate
After being so nice nice to you earlier, I can't believe I'm being so
mean now.
Ah well. Such is life.
Richard Steele
>
>> Dixons' PC World Disaster Area
>> James Follett -- rantmaster extraordinaire
>
>*chuckle* Serves you damn right for even *thinking* of going in!
>I hope you screwed up a few configs before you left. I usually
>do. Well, they have to earn their keep somehow, and they certainly
>don't do it by assisting the customer.
>
Met one recently, having gone into the shop for some light
entertainment, who didn't even know that there was[had been?] such a
thing as DOS !!
James Follett
Ka...@carterce.demon.co.uk "KKKKatie" writes:
> So useful if you want to go to Sainsbury's Homebase as I did only the
> other day for wallpaper for the attic!!! Yes folks we are finally getting
> on to the decorating.
Hallo, Kate. I'm also decorating an attic. If you find an adhesive
that successfully sticks wallpaper to the underside of roof tiles and
tile battens, please let me know the brand name. Superglue does the
job but it works out at 3000 quid per bucket.
James Follett -- novelist
John Hall
<ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> writes
> At this point my imagination took off and I started asking
>for all manner of mundane PC parts that I didn't need but was
>prepared to buy if they had them in stock. But my money was
>safe: floppy drives, mounting frames, packets of jumpers, CPU
>fans -- all either not stocked or out of stock.
One's reminded of the Monty Python "cheese shop" sketch. I once visited
the PC World in Croydon and was surprised, given the enormous size of
the place, just how few lines they stocked. There was acres of empty
space, with here and there a few products. (Where exactly is the
Guildford PC World located, BTW? Somehow its opening has escaped my
notice.)
--
Distrust any enterprise that requires new clothes.
Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
Michael Ozanne
* Dixons' PC World Disaster Area
111111 22222222
An inevitable conjunction.
--
Michael Ozanne who once had a Currys floorwalker offer
to demonstrate a stereo system that only had one speaker
attached.
Tugboat
Nice rant.
Pete Rodger
[snip entertaining post]
> The morale of this story is plain: members of the public are
>not welcome in Dixons' PC Worlds. In this respect their
>marketing strategy has been an unqualified success: there were
>only six members of the public in the Guildford store including
>myself. And one of those was returning CD-ROM drive because it
>didn't include an audio lead!
Had much the same experience in PC World near Bristol! I endorse
everything you said, particularly regarding the assistants(?) and the
PRICES!! - bluddy 'ell!
PS They are equally successful with their marketing strategy - 4+me!
--
Pete, who will *never* darken their doorsteps again........
KKKKatie
ja...@marage.demon.co.uk "James Follett" writes:
> Hallo, Kate. I'm also decorating an attic. If you find an adhesive
> that successfully sticks wallpaper to the underside of roof tiles and
> tile battens, please let me know the brand name.
Yup it's called plasterboard.
Friday
ja...@marage.demon.co.uk "James Follett" writes:
> In article <828197...@cobalt.demon.co.uk>
> fri...@cobalt.demon.co.uk "Friday" writes:
>
> > I hope you screwed up a few configs before you left. I usually
> > do.
>
> That's dreadful behaviour. I wouldn't dream of doing such a thing.
> Perish the thought. Besides, the miserable buggers have write-protected
> all their config.sys files and deleted the attribute utility. No doubt
> to thwart unspeakable characters such as yourself who tamper with the
> files, buffers and stacks lines so that machines boasting 8-meg of RAM
> report `insufficient memory' when trying to run a 100K game. I'm glad
> I'm not like you. Excuse me while I see how many Norton Utilities I
> can squeeze on a 3-1/2-inch floppy disk.
*grin* Well, JAmes, you have convinced. ;) Take a boot disk too. You'd
be surprised how many machines have their boot sequence still set to boot
from floppy first. Sod their write protection, just boot from floppy, and
fdisk the smegger to oblivion. =)
--
Bandits at three o'clock!
Yeah? What shall we do 'til then?
Neil
>Dixons' PC World Disaster Area
[mega snippety snip-snip]
Sounds much like the time I ventured into the Southampton one to take
a look :)
--
N.
"Cherish well your thoughts, and keep a tight grip on your booze,
Cause thinkin' and drinkin' are all I have today."
Neil
>That's dreadful behaviour. I wouldn't dream of doing such a thing.
>Perish the thought. Besides, the miserable buggers have write-protected
>all their config.sys files and deleted the attribute utility.
Ah, but they're all running Win95, so you can have mega fun setting
the display to CGA mode and deleting all the desktop icons :)
Steve Taylor
ja...@marage.demon.co.uk "James Follett" writes:
> In article <Dp42w...@beulah.demon.co.uk>
> ric...@beulah.demon.co.uk "Richard Robinson" writes:
>
> > Which is, of course, where, and how, did you obtain the actual larks' vomit
> > for purposes of comparison ?
>
> I scraped it off the sides of an old Monty Python sketch.
[snip]
>
> SALESMAN:
> Well... Got some chocolate-coated
> frogs. Nice and crunchy, garnished
> with bat spit and larks' vomit.
>
>
> The above is quoted from memory and is unreliable in detail but
> correct in substance.
[Engage pedant mode]
No. Wrongamundo. Monty Python yes, but wrong sketch. Lark's vomit was
not mentioned in the 'Albatross sketch', but in the 'Whizzo Chocolate
Assortment sketch', viz:
Describing 'Ram's Bladder Cup':
'We use choicest juicy chunks of fresh Cornish ram's bladder, emptied,
steamed, flavoured with sesame seeds whipped into a fondue and garnished
with lark's vomit.'
[disengage pedant mode]
A thought does occur, though. They may have included it in the Monty
Python live at Drury Lane' version of the Albatross sketch. I haven't
checked my copy of the LP. You may have remembered that.
--
Steve Taylor
The Cow is of the bovine ilk.
One end is moo, the other milk.
- Ogden Nash
Jim
> Dixons' PC World Disaster Area
> <Huge Snip>
We have a similar set up in Slough. A PC World and a Byte Superstore all
within half a mile of each other. Nearby is a small independent computer
dealer who has been in Slough since 1983 who I have used for all my computer
needs for a lot of that time. Initially they where concerned at these two
big players in there patch but after nearly a year all that has happened is
that there business has improved.
Both superstores regularly refer customers to this small store with full
instructions on how to get there. Byte have even sent existing customers over
the road as they cannot handle big upgrades (486 to Pentium).
What I cannot understand is how the superstores make a profit. As you say
they are consistently deserted. I heard the Byte Superstore in Slough has
a rent of 80k per year. That requires a lot of gear to be shifted even if
the margins are huge.
--
/\_/\
{ . . } Jim
\(o)/
~
David Brown
> Hallo, Kate. I'm also decorating an attic. If you find an adhesive
> that successfully sticks wallpaper to the underside of roof tiles and
> tile battens, please let me know the brand name. Superglue does the
> job but it works out at 3000 quid per bucket.
Try Evostick from a builders merchant. A thickish liquid which you mix with
water and brush on the tiles. (Principal use is in plastering - they paint
the first coat so that the second sticks).
BTW, why are you sticking wall[paper to your tiles? It'll get damp and
mushy.
--
David (who is not Kate, but thought that perhaps she wouldn't know that one)
Richard Steele
In article <828225...@marage.demon.co.uk>, James Follett
>
>> Where exactly is the Guildford PC World located, BTW?
>
>Guildford's `PC World' adjoins the Ladymead Shopping Centre --
er [snip]
>
>There -- you should have no trouble finding `PC World' at
>Guildford. Just follow the trails of knobs that have fallen off
>Comet's Korean video recorders.
>
>James Follett -- novelist
I see. bad day at the office huh?
Started the day with a blank sheet of paper?
Still got it??
;))
Tim Crowther
conversation with sales bod .....
me, excuse me but do you have the Cyrix 386/486 chip please ?
him, errrrmmmmmm ..... no, errrrrmmmm sorry
me, oh so what's that box on the shelf behind you then ?
him, eeerrrrrmmmmmm empty 'cos it's a display box
me, oh. If you had any how much would it cost ?
him, eeeerrrrrrmmmmmmmm dunno, hang on about 200 quid including vat
me, [fx: faint]
now you know why I use Simply Computer in Walthamstow (E17).
--
Tim Crowther (at Home)
[ Never trust a software engineer with a screwdriver ]
Richard Robinson
James Follett <ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <Yu9v2HA4...@jhall.demon.co.uk>
> jo...@jhall.demon.co.uk "John Hall" writes:
>
>> Where exactly is the Guildford PC World located, BTW?
>
You're beginning to get into this, aren't you :-)
I'm slightly worried by one thing, though ...
> garnished with what looks
>suspiciously like larks' vomit and bits of tired lettuce ...
> ... and he's off again !
Which is, of course, where, and how, did you obtain the actual larks' vomit
for purposes of comparison ?
--
Richard Robinson, Leeds, UK ric...@beulah.demon.co.uk
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem
James Follett
> Which is, of course, where, and how, did you obtain the actual larks' vomit
> for purposes of comparison ?
I scraped it off the sides of an old Monty Python sketch.
>SCENE 1. INT. CINEMA. DAY/NIGHT
An ice cream salesman with tray
around neck is picked up by
spotlight. A huge, plucked bird
is slung across his tray.
SALESMAN:
Albatross! Fresh albatross! Get
your albatross here.
CUSTOMER:
(eyeing dead bird) Is that all you've
got?
SALESMAN:
Fraid so, squire. Albatross! Luvely
fresh albatross!
CUSTOMER:
What flavour is it?
SALESMAN:
(puzzled) Well... It's bleedin'
albatross flavour.
CUSTOMER:
Haven't you got anything else?
SALESMAN:
Well... Got some chocolate-coated
frogs. Nice and crunchy, garnished
with bat spit and larks' vomit.
The above is quoted from memory and is unreliable in detail but
correct in substance.
James Follett -- novelist
Richard Robinson
Steve Taylor <St...@marl.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>The Cow is of the bovine ilk.
>One end is moo, the other milk.
> - Ogden Nash
The cow is now a bovine nut.
One end goes "Honk", the other "Phut !".
Umm. Time to restrain the fingers a little, possibly.
Chris Howard
(Jonathan Lynas) wrote:
>How near Skipton? I thought I was the only Dalesman around here!
>Jonathan
>Skyreholme, Appletreewick, vaguely near Skipton
Hi.
Cowling - That nondescript little village placed at thbe top of a hill
so that travellers would know when they're leaving Yorkshire.
Therefore I prefer to say 'Near Skipton'
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Chris Howard
Keighley BS-AC 117
c...@apollo.demon.co.uk
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Jonathan Lynas
>On Sat, 30 Mar 96 14:42:26 GMT, KKKKatie <Ka...@carterce.demon.co.uk>
>wrote:
>> Yes folks we are finally getting on to the decorating.
>I think I'd rather go to Dixons!!! :-)
>>Welcome to D.local Chris, another person of similar orthography will no
>>doubt be along to welcome you in a moment.
>>
>>Another Leedsian eh? Have you met Richard?
>
>Alas no. Nearer Skipton. I just had to see what the place was like.
How near Skipton? I thought I was the only Dalesman around here!
--
KKKKatie
awi...@cizeta.demon.co.uk "Alex Wilde" writes:
> Alex, (Nelson I'm afraid).
Ah but Nelson has one of the worst sign-posted road systems I've ever come
across. I got into what was laughingly called Nelson town centre and couldn't
get out. everytime I thought I'd escaped I'd turn a corner and there
it bloody was again.
David Stevenson
> 111111 22222222
>
>An inevitable conjunction.
>
I did notice they were not terribly competent (they were having trouble
with their computer system): unfortunately I do not know where else to
go (in Liverpool or Birkenhead): other places that I have tried seem
worse.
Sorry for being serious! :):)
--
David Stevenson Bridge Cats Railways Logic /\_/\
da...@blakjak.demon.co.uk Nothing ventured, nothing gained |o o|
Tel: +44 (0)151 677 7412 Phone before Fax please =( @ )=
~
Chris Howard
wrote:
>No, no, no. Cowling is the town with the worlds worst roads, but then it's
>in Yorkshire so it's bound to be crap {:^)
>Alex, (Nelson I'm afraid).
>
to fill in that bombsite just past Colne. ;-))
I take you mean the Nelson with the silly roundabouts?
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The road to success is
always under construction
Chris Howard c...@apollo.demon.co.uk
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Chris Howard
<dm...@leton.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <828430...@midgley.demon.co.uk>, Steven J Lilley <s-
>lil...@midgley.demon.co.uk> writes
>>I think you'll find that Halifax has the world worst roads.
>[description of Halifax's roads]
>
>Lucky bleeder. Wish we had roads like that. We've got potholes so big
>that we can't get to work in the morning until the milk man's float
>falls into one so that we can drive across its roof.
You get milk delivered? In Cowling we have to dash accross the road
and lassoo a cow before we can have a morning cuppa.
>And we have to
>collect the cobbles from peoples front rooms where they lie after being
>chucked through the windows by passers-by the night before. Then we have
>to lick 'em clean and re-lay them.
And windows? In Cowling we have holes in the walls. The curtains are
made of cardboard so they don't flap in the wind...
>Yorkshire Cable just layed their green pipes along the gullies made by
>Yorkshire Water's leaks and they were covered by dog shit within a week.
Dog shit? We can't afford to feed our dogs!
>Lovely roads they are in Halifax.
>--
>George Check South Yorkshire Personal Computing Group on
> http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/hindle/SY/
John Davies
da...@blakjak.demon.co.uk "David Stevenson" writes:
} unfortunately I do not know where else to
} go (in Liverpool or Birkenhead): other places that I have tried seem
} worse.
8<
...not possible ;-)
} --
} David Stevenson Bridge Cats Railways Logic /\_/\
} da...@blakjak.demon.co.uk Nothing ventured, nothing gained |o o|
} Tel: +44 (0)151 677 7412 Phone before Fax please =( @ )=
PS Get a decent sig!
--
JOhn ____/\
\ o o |
=( @ )=
V
Richard Steele
John Davies <Jo...@jwd42.demon.co.uk> writes
> da...@blakjak.demon.co.uk "David Stevenson" writes:
>
>} unfortunately I do not know where else to
>} go (in Liverpool or Birkenhead): other places that I have tried seem
>} worse.
>
> ...not possible ;-)
>
Damnitalltohell! I was gonna do an oxymoron alert - an now you've gone
an spoiled it. :(
Richard Steele
In article <3160db83...@news.demon.co.uk>, Chris Howard
<c...@apollo.demon.co.uk> writes
>On Sat, 30 Mar 1996 21:09:36 +0000, Richard Steele
><ric...@r832.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Moi?
>
>>Ah don't cum from Leeds, an ah wunt if yerasted mi.
>
>Wow! Such a command of the English(?) language - Ecky Thump!
Gord, worra lowsi kermand ov propppa Yorksher.
BTW
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> The road to success is
> always under construction
>Chris Howard c...@apollo.demon.co.uk
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'll try to be the first to say
a) Hello, new in town?
and sadly, but I hope nicely
b) This group is fairly stiff ( I mean strict ) on sig lengths. The
general idea is to use four lines or less, and it is helpful [in fact
almost mandatory] to precede them with "minus minus space CR"
Though purists, like myself, ['cos I am. I'm pure I am] may omit the CR
Chris Howard
<s-li...@midgley.demon.co.uk> wrote:
I'd move to Cowling if I were you.
>The "designers" that decide where traffic lights and roundabouts go are
Only 1 set of lights - no roundabouts - Only one road.........
>.............. That doesn't slow anything down, not even the bus.
>Midgley has houses close to the road and kids riding their bikes all
>over the place. It is also a rat-run when Burnley Road blocks up.
Only 1 bus a month...
>..............In addition right-of-way
>alternates with each set of bollards.
No bollards...
>To top it all Yorkshire Cable have been round and given all the
>pavements a right good shafting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hgoing over.
No Yorkshire Cable :-(
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I don't have any solution -
but I certainly admire the problem
Chris Howard c...@apollo.demon.co.uk
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Chris Howard
(Jonathan Lynas) wrote:
>I nearly ended up living in Lothersdale, but it was too close to
>Lancashire. You can't be too careful with these third world counties
But at least Lothersdale is in a hollow and no-one knows it's there -
And it's got a nice pub!
Chris Howard
wrote:
>Ah but Nelson has one of the worst sign-posted road systems I've ever come
>across. I got into what was laughingly called Nelson town centre and couldn't
>get out. everytime I thought I'd escaped I'd turn a corner and there
>it bloody was again.
Yeah! I spent a week there one day.
Richard Robinson
Richard Steele <ric...@r832.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>b) This group is fairly stiff ( I mean strict ) on sig lengths. The
>general idea is to use four lines or less, and it is helpful [in fact
>almost mandatory] to precede them with "minus minus space CR"
If they are not so preceded then they are not properly a sig - I imagine
there will be a Iolo along shortly to do justice to this subject - and
thus cannot have the shit ripped out of them, so we have to make do
with the content.
Come in, pull up a quadruped, make yourself at home, erm, O New Person
whose name I have deleted.
Richard Steele
In article <828430...@midgley.demon.co.uk>, Steven J Lilley <s-
lil...@midgley.demon.co.uk> writes
[snip]
>>
>> No, no, no. Cowling is the town with the worlds worst roads, but then it's
>> in Yorkshire so it's bound to be crap {:^)
>
>I think you'll find that Halifax has the world worst roads.
>
Here we go, story time; are you sitting comfortably?
>They are badly surfaced. Any that are properly surfaced (planed first)
>are promptly dug up. EG Burnley Road, within approx 4 months Yorkshire
>Water had to put in a new pipeline that ran along most of the length
>that I travel.
See! I knew he was telling a story. Yorkshire Water putting in
pipelines?? You think he could at least have made up something
believable.
Chris Howard
<ric...@r832.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Moi?
>Ah don't cum from Leeds, an ah wunt if yerasted mi.
Wow! Such a command of the English(?) language - Ecky Thump!
David Stevenson
I did! I stole yours!
--
David Stevenson Bridge Cats Railways Logic /\_/\
Nothing ventured, nothing gained |o o|
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Steven J Lilley
> In article <828430...@midgley.demon.co.uk>, Steven J Lilley <s-
> lil...@midgley.demon.co.uk> writes
>
> Lucky bleeder. Wish we had roads like that. We've got potholes so big
ROFL
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Chris Howard
<ric...@beulah.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Come in, pull up a quadruped, make yourself at home, erm, O New Person
>whose name I have deleted.
'Umble apologies one and all. Consider it sorted.
However the quadruped could be a problem - but I'll work on it.
--
Chris Howard 'owzatt!
Paul Spencer
>> PS Get a decent sig!
>
> I did! I stole yours!
D.l. non sequitur of the week
John Hall
<ric...@beulah.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <umq6JDAl...@r832.demon.co.uk>,
>Richard Steele <ric...@r832.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>b) This group is fairly stiff ( I mean strict ) on sig lengths. The
>>general idea is to use four lines or less, and it is helpful [in fact
>>almost mandatory] to precede them with "minus minus space CR"
>
>If they are not so preceded then they are not properly a sig
Well, no less an authority than Richard Clayton appears to disagree with
you. He has said several times, on the basis of the relevant RFC, that
there is no absolute requirement to precede a sig with "-- ".
Incidentally, I notice some people always put their name *before* their
sig delimiter, which I think is cheating. I think lines that always
appear identically in every post should be counted as part of the sig,
regardless of whether there is a "-- " or whether they precede or follow
it.
--
"But I am a great eater of beef, and I believe
that does harm to my wit."
William Shakespeare, "Twelfth Night"
leo
fri...@cobalt.demon.co.uk "Friday" writes:
> > I'm not like you. Excuse me while I see how many Norton Utilities I
> > can squeeze on a 3-1/2-inch floppy disk.
>
> *grin* Well, JAmes, you have convinced. ;) Take a boot disk too. You'd
> be surprised how many machines have their boot sequence still set to boot
> from floppy first. Sod their write protection, just boot from floppy, and
> fdisk the smegger to oblivion. =)
No no no, just test out the CMOS password facility, use something
intuitive like 'axolotl'
--
leo
Alan Price
David Stevenson <da...@blakjak.demon.co.uk> said:-
> Pity I did not know all this b4 I went to PCWorld to buy my computer.
>I did notice they were not terribly competent (they were having trouble
>with their computer system): unfortunately I do not know where else to
>go (in Liverpool or Birkenhead): other places that I have tried seem
>worse.
>
We buy our PC gear from Computer Warehouse, Unit B12, Brunswick Small
Business Centre (round the back of Harry Ramsden's Liverpool chip-shop).
It's a help if you know what you want, but they are quite patient with
novice users. They will custom-build virtually anything you want. No
connection other than as a customer etc.
__
apr...@postern.demon.co.uk Alan Price
Jim
pa...@galuk.demon.co.uk "Paul Spencer" writes:
> David Stevenson <da...@blakjak.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Find an exceuse to get your money back, then go home. You don't need
> to go anywhere else - just phone Gateway 2000. Their PCs are
> reasonably priced without being designed purely for cheapness. So you
> don't regret buying the PC a few weeks later when realise that all the
> bits that don't make the advertising blurb aren't there. The machines
> are basically well-balanced in their components. Customer service is
> also good, with lifetime helpline support (which I have not needed).
>
> This is all stated from my limited experience of buying on a couple of
> years ago and reading ads and reviews since.
>
Gateway machines are very good, we have a couple here at work. But if something
does go wrong (ie our CD went down) then you have to ship the part back to
Ireland. The turn round is nearer 2 weeks. The thing I dread is if the whole
beast went down cos its bloody big to post back and I dont fancy ParcelFarce.
--
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{ . . } Jim
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Paul Spencer
> Pity I did not know all this b4 I went to PCWorld to buy my computer.
>I did notice they were not terribly competent (they were having trouble
>with their computer system): unfortunately I do not know where else to
>go (in Liverpool or Birkenhead): other places that I have tried seem
>worse.
Find an exceuse to get your money back, then go home. You don't need
to go anywhere else - just phone Gateway 2000. Their PCs are
reasonably priced without being designed purely for cheapness. So you
don't regret buying the PC a few weeks later when realise that all the
bits that don't make the advertising blurb aren't there. The machines
are basically well-balanced in their components. Customer service is
also good, with lifetime helpline support (which I have not needed).
This is all stated from my limited experience of buying on a couple of
years ago and reading ads and reviews since.
--
Paul, not trying to start a 'what PC is best' thread.
Paul L. Allen
John Hall <jo...@jhall.demon.co.uk> writes:
> In article <Dp96w...@beulah.demon.co.uk>, Richard Robinson
> <ric...@beulah.demon.co.uk> writes
> >In article <umq6JDAl...@r832.demon.co.uk>,
> >Richard Steele <ric...@r832.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>b) This group is fairly stiff ( I mean strict ) on sig lengths. The
> >>general idea is to use four lines or less, and it is helpful [in fact
> >>almost mandatory] to precede them with "minus minus space CR"
> >
> >If they are not so preceded then they are not properly a sig
>
> Well, no less an authority than Richard Clayton appears to disagree with
> you. He has said several times, on the basis of the relevant RFC, that
> there is no absolute requirement to precede a sig with "-- ".
There is *no* RFC describing the sig separator. However, son-of-rfc1036
does make it clear that the de facto convention is, in fact, "-- " followed
by <cr>, and not "--" or "-- " with other junk on the line. This is because
the sequence "-- "<cr> is not likely to be found in the body of a post
whilst other possible variants are.
> Incidentally, I notice some people always put their name *before* their
> sig delimiter, which I think is cheating. I think lines that always
> appear identically in every post should be counted as part of the sig,
> regardless of whether there is a "-- " or whether they precede or follow
> it.
I would agree with you. This *is* cheating.
--Paul
Marcus Bainbridge
>Incidentally, I notice some people always put their name *before* their
>sig delimiter, which I think is cheating.
I disagree slightly. For me, the whole reason behind 4-line sigs is so
that I don't look at the scroll bar, or %age remaining and see that
there is more to read, only to find that it's someone's monstrosity of a
sig. But if they put their name before the -- and it happens to sit at
the bottom of the screen, I can see it's the end of the message.
No doubt someone will be along with a statistical proof to show that
this reasoning doesn't always work, but it will work more often if the
poster sticks to the 4 line sig rule than if they use more.
--
Marcus Bainbridge
mar...@mwb.u-net.com - http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3429
Paul Spencer
>Gateway machines are very good, we have a couple here at work. But if something
>does go wrong (ie our CD went down) then you have to ship the part back to
>Ireland. The turn round is nearer 2 weeks. The thing I dread is if the whole
>beast went down cos its bloody big to post back and I dont fancy ParcelFarce.
I wasn't happy with my original monitor. They shipped me another and
told me to send the other back when I was ready.
They gave me the freephone number and account number to put it all on
their account with the carrier.
--
Paul
John Hall
<p...@sktb.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>There is *no* RFC describing the sig separator. However, son-of-rfc1036
>does make it clear that the de facto convention is, in fact, "-- " followed
>by <cr>, and not "--" or "-- " with other junk on the line. This is because
>the sequence "-- "<cr> is not likely to be found in the body of a post
>whilst other possible variants are.
You're right, of course. But I understand it's only laid down that *if*
you have a sig separator that is the form it should take. The point I
was trying to make is that it is not compulsory to have one at all.
--
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing.
Wernher von Braun
Richard Clayton
>>There is *no* RFC describing the sig separator. However, son-of-rfc1036
>>does make it clear that the de facto convention is, in fact, "-- " followed
>>by <cr>, and not "--" or "-- " with other junk on the line. This is because
>>the sequence "-- "<cr> is not likely to be found in the body of a post
>>whilst other possible variants are.
No argument there. The trouble with son-of-RFC1036 is its rather
enigmatic status. It is completely unofficial and has not been subject
to peer review. However, it _was_ written by an expert in the field and
makes a great deal of sense when read. Therefore, it is far more widely
respected and conformed to than one might at first expect.
Perhaps it would also be timely to distinguish between RFCs and
standards.... except that ISTR that having stayed on topic for an entire
paragraph, the correct thing to do in demon.local is to promptly change
the subject :)
However, I hope you will forgive an occasional visitor, unaccustomed to
.local customs, from continuing to note that.... in article <+7c2jjAF$QZ
xE...@jhall.demon.co.uk>, John Hall <jo...@jhall.demon.co.uk> has written
>You're right, of course. But I understand it's only laid down that *if*
>you have a sig separator that is the form it should take.
Backward logic. If you have a "-- " in your contribution then, by
widespread, conventional, agreement, it is a .sig separator. If you have
something else at the bottom of your article then if you want to claim
that it is a .sig separator you will be pretty much on your own.
> The point I
>was trying to make is that it is not compulsory to have one at all.
True.
Doubtless, therefore, someone will promptly seize the opportunity to
count your not-a-sig-separator into the total length of your .sig.
Should you be unwise enough to have a total .sig longer than four lines
then you'll be on your own when someone takes exception to it.
If you stick at four lines or less then you'll have some allies when
your contribution comes under unwelcome scrutiny.
I am, as you can see, relying upon this :)
richard (unaccountably in my front room)
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Though the future's there for anyone to change; you know it seems; it's
easier sometimes to change the past: fountain of sorrow; jackson browne
leo
ja...@marage.demon.co.uk "James Follett" writes:
> sorry: Retail Park -- on the Guildford by-pass. Nearby is B&Q
> selling Hungarian light bulbs that leave the bayonet skirt in
> the socket when you try to remove them.
B&Q is OK as long as you
a) know exactly what you want and
b) are willing to bully an attendant into finding it for you
--
leo
Alec Cawley
writes
of them
Alec -
leo
al...@cawley.demon.co.uk "Alec Cawley" writes:
They all come in useful eventually. I presently have 3000 paving blocks
waiting to be laid as a drive; they have been here a while. However, I
know that Some Day, their turn will come
--
leo
Donald R. Oddy
>B&Q is OK as long as you
>
>a) know exactly what you want and
>b) are willing to bully an attendant into finding it for you
And know that Turps is the same as White Spirit except for the price
and colour of the cap.
--
Donald
Dale Shuttleworth
leo (l...@lgab.demon.co.uk) wrote:
[...]
: They all come in useful eventually. I presently have 3000 paving blocks
: waiting to be laid as a drive; they have been here a while. However, I
: know that Some Day, their turn will come
These blocks are either pretty small or you are going to have a very
impressive drive when you've finished.
How long does it take to count 3000 paving blocks?
Dale.
--
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* Dale Shuttleworth *
* Email: da...@giskard.demon.co.uk *
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leo
Cleaning brushes is a waste of time unless the paint is water soluble.
Save up all the undercoating and glossing jobs, use the brush and then
throw it away.
--
leo
Iolo Davidson
> Cleaning brushes is a waste of time unless the paint is water
> soluble. Save up all the undercoating and glossing jobs, use the
> brush and then throw it away.
In our house the sequence is: do the painting, leave brush in jar
of thinners for a month to congeal, throw both brush and jar
away as a unit. I used to buy good brushes and clean them, but
now I buy cheap ones for the wife to ruin.
--
CUTIE INVITED OF WHISKERS
VARSITY HOP PARTY A FLOP
GUY FULL Burma-Shave
David Brown
> In article <828828...@lgab.demon.co.uk> l...@lgab.demon.co.uk "leo" writes:
>
> >B&Q is OK as long as you
> >
> >a) know exactly what you want and
> >b) are willing to bully an attendant into finding it for you
>
> And know that Turps is the same as White Spirit except for the price
> and colour of the cap.
and the taste.
--
David (t'Real one)
leo
da...@giskard.demon.co.uk "Dale Shuttleworth" writes:
> : They all come in useful eventually. I presently have 3000 paving blocks
> : waiting to be laid as a drive; they have been here a while. However, I
> : know that Some Day, their turn will come
>
> These blocks are either pretty small or you are going to have a very
> impressive drive when you've finished.
They're about the same size as a standard house brick
> How long does it take to count 3000 paving blocks?
Depends how many fingers you have
--
leo
Paul Spencer
>And know that Turps is the same as White Spirit except for the price
>and colour of the cap.
Also the same as International No 1 Thinners.
You can imagine the price of that. I would also like to find the
equivalent of No 9 thinners. Anyone here know?
--
Paul
leo
io...@mist.demon.co.uk "Iolo Davidson" writes:
> In article <829075...@lgab.demon.co.uk> l...@lgab.demon.co.uk "leo" writes:
>
> > Cleaning brushes is a waste of time unless the paint is water
> > soluble. Save up all the undercoating and glossing jobs, use the
> > brush and then throw it away.
>
> In our house the sequence is: do the painting, leave brush in jar
> of thinners for a month to congeal, throw both brush and jar
> away as a unit. I used to buy good brushes and clean them, but
> now I buy cheap ones for the wife to ruin.
I found that I was throwing brushes away anyway, so there seemed little
point in pretending that I was going to clean them. Expensive brushes
are marginally better, but they cost ten times as much.
--
leo
Mike Fleming
rjs...@dircon.co.uk "Richard Sliwa" writes:
> Is that anything to do with Chanel No. 9 ?
John Innes number 9?
--
Mike (DF) Fleming MAG #79794 DoD #4446 Greenpeace #567708F
JKLO #004 KotWP7 UKMC #9
Which of these well-meaning groups will look out for the homeless snail
And who is going to save the slug ere it reaches the end of its trail?
Richard Sliwa
>
> "Donald R. Oddy" <don...@grove.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >And know that Turps is the same as White Spirit except for the price
> >and colour of the cap.
>
> Also the same as International No 1 Thinners.
>
> You can imagine the price of that. I would also like to find the
> equivalent of No 9 thinners. Anyone here know?
>
Is that anything to do with Chanel No. 9 ?
> --
> Paul
--
Richard, who's wondering what these numbers are about
simon
Mi...@tauzero.demon.co.uk "Mike Fleming" writes:
> In article <316CC4...@dircon.co.uk>
> rjs...@dircon.co.uk "Richard Sliwa" writes:
>
> > Paul Spencer wrote:
> > >
> > > Also the same as International No 1 Thinners.
> > >
> > > You can imagine the price of that. I would also like to find the
> > > equivalent of No 9 thinners. Anyone here know?
> > >
> > Is that anything to do with Chanel No. 9 ?
>
> John Innes number 9?
number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9. number 9....etc
--
Si
Ryszard Sliwa
I AM NOT A NUMER! I AM A FREE MAN!
--
Richard, Shouting
John Hall
<cr...@crisco.demon.co.uk> writes
>Ryszard Sliwa <rjs...@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>[cut]
>
>:I AM NOT A NUMER! I AM A FREE MAN!
>
>Dare I ask? What, if you please, is a "NUMER"?
Member of the National Union of Mineworkers?
--
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
"It is a very sad thing that nowadays there is so little useless
information."
Marcus Bainbridge
>In article <316f73d9...@news.demon.co.uk>, Cris
><cr...@crisco.demon.co.uk> writes
>>Dare I ask? What, if you please, is a "NUMER"?
>
>Member of the National Union of Mineworkers?
In this country? I thought those lovely Tories got rid of all those
horrible dirty miners..?
--
Marcus Bainbridge, whose dad used to work at a Pit, till it closed whilst
making a healty profit
mar...@mwb.u-net.com - http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3429
Steven J Lilley
> Ryszard Sliwa <rjs...@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> :I AM NOT A NUMER! I AM A FREE MAN!
>
It's what you get if you stay outside too long when you aren't
wearing any under garments.
Also applied to the feeling you get when you ride downhill on
a push-bike in cold weather.
--
Steven J Lilley
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Richard Sliwa
>
> Ryszard Sliwa <rjs...@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> :I AM NOT A NUMER! I AM A FREE MAN!
>
> Dare I ask? What, if you please, is a "NUMER"?
>
Numerically Uneducated Man Enduring Rants
What's the world coming to? I mean, you make one typo and everyone gangs
up against you! :)
Perhaps I am a number after all? (preferably an even one)
--
Richard, a.k.a Ryszard
Terrance Richard Boyes
> Ryszard Sliwa <rjs...@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> :I AM NOT A NUMER! I AM A FREE MAN!
>
> Dare I ask? What, if you please, is a "NUMER"?
An inhabitant of an obscure country in the middle east a few thousand years
ago. It's southern neighbour, Sumer, was much more well known.
--
http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/1666 Team AMIGA
T-Shirt saying: Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
Tina J Perrett
writes
>
>I found that I was throwing brushes away anyway, so there seemed little
>point in pretending that I was going to clean them. Expensive brushes
>are marginally better, but they cost ten times as much.
>
I agree with leo. Use a cheap brush and dispose of it. Cos however well
you clean a paintbrush there is always one spot of unwanted colour left
to ruin your next decorating project.
--
Tina J Perrett
Donald R. Oddy
da...@dbrown.demon.co.uk "David Brown" writes:
>In article <828913...@grove.demon.co.uk>
> don...@grove.demon.co.uk "Donald R. Oddy" writes:
>> And know that Turps is the same as White Spirit except for the price
>> and colour of the cap.
>
>and the taste.
AFAIK Turps (Turpentine Substitute) is exactly the same as White Spirit.
Turpentine is the non-poisonous one.
--
Donald
Donald R. Oddy
pa...@galuk.demon.co.uk "Paul Spencer" writes:
>International makes paints and varnishes. Used on boats among other
>things, but also very good for external gloss work such as front
>doors. Each paint or varnish tells you what the appropriate thinner
>is. No 1 thinner is just white spirit. I don't know what No 9 thinner
>is.
>
Water ?
--
Donald
Richard Sliwa
>
> Richard Sliwa <rjs...@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> :Cris wrote, and others responded with various degrees of accuracy:> :> :I AM NOT A NUMER! I AM A FREE MAN!
> :>
> :> Dare I ask? What, if you please, is a "NUMER"?
> :Numerically Uneducated Man Enduring Rants
>
> Not bad!
>
> :What's the world coming to? I mean, you make one typo and everyone gangs
> :up against you! :)
> :
> :Perhaps I am a number after all? (preferably an even one)
>
>
No there ain't!
(but something may be wrong elsewhere)
> Cris
Let's see what time-stamp this post gets. I've checked my system clock
(O.K.), Regional Settings (O.K.) and Netscape settings (O.K.), and this post
*should* therefore hit my server at approx. 5.45 am Sunday 14 April 1996.
Any other suggestions?
--
Richard, not sure what Cris is on about
John Hall
<rjs...@dircon.co.uk> writes
>
>Let's see what time-stamp this post gets. I've checked my system clock
>(O.K.), Regional Settings (O.K.) and Netscape settings (O.K.), and this post
>*should* therefore hit my server at approx. 5.45 am Sunday 14 April 1996.
>Any other suggestions?
From the header of your message:
>Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 05:46:16 -0700
The -0700 looks a bit wrong. I think Netscape thinks you're in
California.
--
You can divide people into two categories:
those who divide people into two categories and those who don't
Cris
:Cris wrote:
:> M'mm... and there's something wrong with your PC clock, too!
:
:No there ain't!
:(but something may be wrong elsewhere)
:
:Let's see what time-stamp this post gets. I've checked my system clock
:(O.K.), Regional Settings (O.K.) and Netscape settings (O.K.), and this post
:*should* therefore hit my server at approx. 5.45 am Sunday 14 April 1996.
Your message timed at 14/04/96 13:46. And I'm typing this just prior
to 11:00 on the 14th.
:Any other suggestions?
Tsk tsk! You are asking this question in demon.local?
Cris
Cris
:In article <829207...@lgab.demon.co.uk>, leo <l...@lgab.demon.co.uk>
Rubbish! Buy professional brushes and the best paint solvents. Soak
the brushes in solvent twice, then wash them in very soapy water. If
the soap doesn't lather, repeat the process. My paint brushes are more
than twenty years old, and still flexible.
I dunno... these youngsters... think money grows on trees.
Cris
Derek Tidman
cr...@crisco.demon.co.uk "Cris" writes:
<Rubbish! Buy professional brushes and the best paint solvents. Soak
<the brushes in solvent twice, then wash them in very soapy water. If
<the soap doesn't lather, repeat the process. My paint brushes are more
<than twenty years old, and still flexible.
I've just been cleaning mine and I noticed my 1.5 inch brush
has bristles that are now only half an inch long. It was only
when I read this that I realised it was also 20 years old..
Old brushes are much better for cutting in...
--
"Whoever says money can't buy you happiness...
....doesn't know where to shop".....
Neil D. Jackson
of being on-topic, I wanna have a whinge at Dixons/PC World...
This weekend, they blitzed London's TV (again) with their pathetic PC
World superstore commercials. Full of:
Kiddies playing games (ahh, diddums),
Young adults upgrading their newly-bought PCs (bwahahah),
Middle-agers getting new machines and being advised (hohoho),
Mums concerned about educational products.
Oh what a joyful place PC World is. So convenient and handy for the
"ORDINARY JOE".
Right - well if they're targeting you and me as their customer, they can
DROP THE EX-VAT PRICES RIGHT NOW, as far as I'm concerned.
Their current, long-running defence to the Office of Fair-Trading and
Advertising Standards Authority that they're only really aiming at
BUSINESS CUSTOMERS is total and complete BOLLOCKS.
Anyone agree?
Anyone tell me if they've stopped this deception-tactic already?
--
Neil D. Jackson
Cris
:Cris wrote, and others responded with various degrees of accuracy:
:>
:> Ryszard Sliwa <rjs...@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
:>
:> [cut]
:>
:> :I AM NOT A NUMER! I AM A FREE MAN!
:>
:> Dare I ask? What, if you please, is a "NUMER"?
:
:Numerically Uneducated Man Enduring Rants
Not bad!
:What's the world coming to? I mean, you make one typo and everyone gangs
:up against you! :)
:
:Perhaps I am a number after all? (preferably an even one)
M'mm... and there's something wrong with your PC clock, too!
Cris
Paul L. Allen
Richard Sliwa <rjs...@dircon.co.uk> writes:
> Let's see what time-stamp this post gets. I've checked my system clock
> (O.K.), Regional Settings (O.K.) and Netscape settings (O.K.), and this post
> *should* therefore hit my server at approx. 5.45 am Sunday 14 April 1996.
> Any other suggestions?
>
> --
> Richard, not sure what Cris is on about
What Cris is on about is that your time zone is -0700 rather than the +0100
it should be for BST. That means you're posting from somewhere in the US
(west coast, I suspect).
--Paul
leo
> Tina J Perrett <ti...@wunjo.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> :In article <829207...@lgab.demon.co.uk>, leo <l...@lgab.demon.co.uk>
> :writes
> :>
> :>I found that I was throwing brushes away anyway, so there seemed little
> :>point in pretending that I was going to clean them. Expensive brushes
> :>are marginally better, but they cost ten times as much.
> :>
> :
> :I agree with leo. Use a cheap brush and dispose of it. Cos however well
> :you clean a paintbrush there is always one spot of unwanted colour left
> :to ruin your next decorating project.
>
> Rubbish! Buy professional brushes and the best paint solvents. Soak
> the brushes in solvent twice, then wash them in very soapy water. If
> the soap doesn't lather, repeat the process. My paint brushes are more
> than twenty years old, and still flexible.
>
> I dunno... these youngsters... think money grows on trees.
No - it's just that the solvent costs more than the brushes ....
--
leo
James Follett
ja...@techno.demon.co.uk "Neil D. Jackson" writes:
> Their current, long-running defence to the Office of Fair-Trading and
> Advertising Standards Authority that they're only really aiming at
> BUSINESS CUSTOMERS is total and complete BOLLOCKS.
>
> Anyone agree?
> Anyone tell me if they've stopped this deception-tactic already?
Sadly, no. Their games are displayed with prominance given to ex-VAT
prices. Not many people can legitimately claim back VAT inputs on
games. They have a Currys next door to their Guildford PC World
selling exactly the same Packard-Bell crud but with the prices including
VAT.
* * Help! Printed-out `readme' files are taking over my
paperless office!
James Follett * *
Ryszard Sliwa
I know what Cris is on about, having had a few email exchanges in the interim
(BTW thanks, Cris!), but it's not helped.
I am posting from good ol' Blighty and my settings are correct to all intents and
purposes. Perhaps my clock wishes it was in the US of A?
I'm not technically illiterate (even though my typing gives up on me occasionally
;-) ), but I'm stumped, as is everyone I've asked. I've passed this thread onto
a techie group for further advice, so please don't continue it here.
I know there's a problem, I don't know know where it is, so please bear with me
while I try to do something about it, and ignore my would-be-Merkin time-stamp.
Thanks for all the help anyway.
On with business ;-)
--
Richard
Michael Spooner
>In article <3170F3...@dircon.co.uk>
> Richard Sliwa <rjs...@dircon.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Let's see what time-stamp this post gets. I've checked my system clock
>> (O.K.), Regional Settings (O.K.) and Netscape settings (O.K.), and this post
>> *should* therefore hit my server at approx. 5.45 am Sunday 14 April 1996.
>> Any other suggestions?
>>
>> --
>> Richard, not sure what Cris is on about
>
>What Cris is on about is that your time zone is -0700 rather than the +0100
>it should be for BST. That means you're posting from somewhere in the US
>(west coast, I suspect).
A 7 hr. minus adjustment would put you in US MDST (mountain daylight
savings time. This is mountain standard time with the 1 hr. spring
ahead for summer. You are a full 8 hrs. ahead of me here on the west
coast.
--
"Every absurdity has a champion to defend it, for error
is always talkative" OLIVER GOLDSMITH
John Hall
<De...@adams.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>I've just been cleaning mine and I noticed my 1.5 inch brush
>has bristles that are now only half an inch long. It was only
>when I read this that I realised it was also 20 years old..
You should get almost another 10 years use out of it, then.
--
The graveyards are full of indispensable men.
Charles de Gaulle (1890-1970)
Cris
:In article <31705433...@news.demon.co.uk>
: cr...@crisco.demon.co.uk "Cris" writes:
:> Rubbish! Buy professional brushes and the best paint solvents.
:>
:> I dunno... these youngsters... think money grows on trees.
:
:No - it's just that the solvent costs more than the brushes ....
I thought we were discussing brushes/solvents... not justice.
Cris
Cris
[cut]
:Paul L. Allen wrote:
:>
:> In article <3170F3...@dircon.co.uk>
:> Richard Sliwa <rjs...@dircon.co.uk> writes:
:>
:> > Richard, not sure what Cris is on about
:>
:> What Cris is on about is [...]
:
:I know what Cris is on about
<sigh> I'm glad someone does...
Cris
Paul Spencer
>> No 1 thinner is just white spirit. I don't know what No 9 thinner
>>is.
>>
>Water ?
You might expect that to be No 1. In which case, remind me never to
use No 2 thinners.
--
Paul, no freckles
Donald R. Oddy
8< 8= 8< 8= 8< 8=
>
>Rubbish! Soak in solvent twice, then wash in very soapy water. If
>the soap doesn't lather, repeat the process. More than twenty years
>old, and still flexible.
I thought most youngsters of 20 were still flexible
--
Donald
Jim
ja...@marage.demon.co.uk "James Follett" writes:
> In article <eNT3PLAW...@techno.demon.co.uk>
> ja...@techno.demon.co.uk "Neil D. Jackson" writes:
>
> > Their current, long-running defence to the Office of Fair-Trading and
> > Advertising Standards Authority that they're only really aiming at
> > BUSINESS CUSTOMERS is total and complete BOLLOCKS.
> >
> > Anyone agree?
>
> > Anyone tell me if they've stopped this deception-tactic already?
>
> Sadly, no. Their games are displayed with prominance given to ex-VAT
> prices. Not many people can legitimately claim back VAT inputs on
> games. They have a Currys next door to their Guildford PC World
> selling exactly the same Packard-Bell crud but with the prices including
> VAT.
>
They are both owned by the same group. They plant them in pairs everwhere
now.
The prices are not the only deception - what about selling P75 Pentiums for
exorbitant prices. Even the motor trade reduce 'last years' model to get rid
of stock.
--
/\_/\
{ . . } Jim
\(o)/
~
leo
cr...@crisco.demon.co.uk "Cris" writes:
> leo <l...@lgab.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> :In article <31705433...@news.demon.co.uk>
> : cr...@crisco.demon.co.uk "Cris" writes:
>
> :> Rubbish! Buy professional brushes and the best paint solvents.
> :>
> :> I dunno... these youngsters... think money grows on trees.
> :
> :No - it's just that the solvent costs more than the brushes ....
>
> I thought we were discussing brushes/solvents... not justice.
A simple matter of economics, Cris (sigh) - these oldsters think money
grows on trees ...
--
leo
Cris
:In article <31705433...@news.demon.co.uk>
: cr...@crisco.demon.co.uk "Cris" writes:
:
:8< 8= 8< 8= 8< 8=
:>
:>Rubbish! Soak in solvent twice, then wash in very soapy water. If
:>the soap doesn't lather, repeat the process. More than twenty years
:>old, and still flexible.
:
:I thought most youngsters of 20 were still flexible
H'm... or limp.
Cris