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John Hall

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Oct 10, 2006, 12:51:26 PM10/10/06
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As part of revising the Which Newsgroup FAQ, I am attempting to
determine which demon.* groups are moribund, so that people can be
warned that they may not get a response to a message in such a group.
The lack of posts to this group suggests that it might be effectively
dead. However it is possible that some people knowledgeable about the
use of Demon under Windows 3.1 are still reading this group, and could
help anyone who asked a question here. If you consider yourself such a
person, please would you follow-up this message.
--
John Hall

"Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong."
Oscar Wilde

John Hein

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Oct 11, 2006, 4:03:49 PM10/11/06
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Some of us are still using KA9Q.

On Tuesday, in article <fXq2XFEO...@jhall.demon.co.uk>
nospam...@jhall.co.uk "John Hall" wrote:

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John Hall

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Oct 11, 2006, 5:00:19 PM10/11/06
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In article <20061011.20...@drink.demon.co.uk>,

John Hein <johnd...@drink.demon.co.uk> writes:
>Some of us are still using KA9Q.

Yes, I know, and so demon.ip.support.pc is still alive (Google knows of
287 articles posted to that group since the start of 2006). But those
using KA9Q will presumably not usually be reading
demon.ip.support.winsock, which was set up for Windows 3.1 users. Or did
you temporarily forget which group you were "in" (which happens to most
of us occasionally)? :)

Donald R. Oddy

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Oct 11, 2006, 7:44:40 PM10/11/06
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In article <EsQA5nMj...@jhall.demon.co.uk>

john_...@jhall.co.uk "John Hall" writes:
>In article <20061011.20...@drink.demon.co.uk>,
> John Hein <johnd...@drink.demon.co.uk> writes:
>>Some of us are still using KA9Q.
>
>Yes, I know, and so demon.ip.support.pc is still alive (Google knows of
>287 articles posted to that group since the start of 2006). But those
>using KA9Q will presumably not usually be reading
>demon.ip.support.winsock, which was set up for Windows 3.1 users. Or did
>you temporarily forget which group you were "in" (which happens to most
>of us occasionally)? :)

The Windis programme is a straight replacement for the mail and news
functions of KA9Q. SNEWS and PCELM work with it.

Windis also works under Win95, Win98 and possibly later versions.
demon.ip.support.winsock is probably now better regarded as the
support group for Windis than for Windows 3.1.

I still glance at anything posted here so if a query arose I
could probably help although I can't imagine many new people
are going to be using the software.

I should probably also be watching demon.ip.support.pc if that's
where the issue of broken SMTP delivery is discussed.

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Donald Oddy
http://www.grove.demon.co.uk/

John Hall

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Oct 12, 2006, 4:36:05 AM10/12/06
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In article <116061...@grove.demon.co.uk>,

Donald R. Oddy <don...@grove.demon.co.uk> writes:
>The Windis programme is a straight replacement for the mail and news
>functions of KA9Q. SNEWS and PCELM work with it.
>
>Windis also works under Win95, Win98 and possibly later versions.
>demon.ip.support.winsock is probably now better regarded as the
>support group for Windis than for Windows 3.1.

Thanks for the explanation.


>
>I still glance at anything posted here so if a query arose I
>could probably help although I can't imagine many new people
>are going to be using the software.
>
>I should probably also be watching demon.ip.support.pc if that's
>where the issue of broken SMTP delivery is discussed.

If the problem is limited to mail reception using DOS software then that
would be the place. If you think that the problem is more general, then
demon.ip.support might be the place. Or if you are convinced that Demon
are doing something wrong at their end, then it could be a demon.service
issue.

Donald R. Oddy

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Oct 12, 2006, 10:39:01 AM10/12/06
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In article <wFVdjmC1...@jhall.demon.co.uk>
john_...@jhall.co.uk "John Hall" writes:

Well there's the problem where when the Demon email servers go down,
they fix the POP3 and say everything is fixed. A bit later SMTP
starts working again. Presumably someone applies a clue x 4.

The other problem may be Windis specific in that some spam emails
cause the SMTP connection to hang. Not being sufficently up on
the protocols I can't say what the problem is. Deleting the
offending message solves the problem.

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