New Windis32 problem
Dom Robinson
has started rejecting any emails sent through it which I create with CPPnews
v.1.43 and yes, I know CPPnews is no longer supported, but everything's worked
fine until tonight, but the problem seems to be that the Pipex SMTP connection
is getting confused with my old 4thenet.co.uk account, even though I'm no
longer dialling up with that because I'm using Pipex's ADSL service.
Here's a short example of a test email I sent to myself which shows how it
bounces and renames the 'from' to Wind...@dvdfever.co.uk
Thanks in advance
Dom
The bounced email:
From: WinD...@dvdfever.co.uk (DVDfever Dom)
Subject: Failed Mail
To: d...@dvdfever.co.uk
Message-ID: <102144...@dvdfever.co.uk>
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.43 $
Date: Tue, 14 May 02 23:11:18 GMT
Organization: DVDfever.co.uk
Lines: 31
An error was detected while attempting to forward your message (id=)
to smtp.dsl.pipex.com.
It has not been sent to one or more of the intended recipients.
This may be due to an error in one of the mail addresses.
---------- Session Transcript follows ----------
<<<< 220 nemesis.systems.pipex.net ESMTP Postfix
>>>> HELO 4thenet.co.uk
>>>> MAIL FROM: <d...@dvdfever.co.uk>
>>>> RCPT TO: <d...@dvdfever.co.uk>
>>>> DATA
<<<< 250 nemesis.systems.pipex.net
<<<< 250 Ok
<<<< 503 Improper use of SMTP command pipelining
<<<< 554 Error: no valid recipients
>>>> QUIT
<<<< 221 Bye
---------- Message Header follows ----------
From: d...@dvdfever.co.uk (DVDfever Dom)
Subject: test
To: d...@dvdfever.co.uk
Message-ID: <102144...@dvdfever.co.uk>
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.43 $
Date: Tue, 14 May 02 23:10:22 GMT
Organization: DVDfever.co.uk
Lines: 0
Dom Robinson
says...
Just following this up with a section of the Windis32 log. I've realised that
it didn't happen halfway through sending some emails, but tonight when I tried
to send someone, whereas ones sent last night (which I've masked the real
addresses of) went through fine.
I haven't changed any settings within Windis32 inbetween either.
14May02 01:30:09 Windis32 (v3.1.08) started
14May02 01:30:09 Connecting to smtp.dsl.pipex.com
14May02 01:30:09 Connecting to smtp.dsl.pipex.com
14May02 01:30:09 Connecting to smtp.dsl.pipex.com
14May02 01:30:10 Connected to smtp.dsl.pipex.com, starting SMTP session
14May02 01:30:10 Connected to smtp.dsl.pipex.com, starting SMTP session
14May02 01:30:10 SMTP client: outgoing mail to em...@1.co.uk - sent OK
14May02 01:30:10 Sent
14May02 01:30:10 SMTP client: outgoing mail to em...@2.com - sent OK
14May02 01:30:10 Sent
14May02 01:30:13 Connected to smtp.dsl.pipex.com, starting SMTP session
14May02 01:30:13 SMTP client: outgoing mail to em...@3.com - sent OK
14May02 01:30:13 Sent
14May02 01:30:13 Windis32 stopped
14May02 21:27:33 Windis32 (v3.1.08) started
14May02 21:27:34 Connecting to smtp.dsl.pipex.com
14May02 21:27:34 Connecting to smtp.dsl.pipex.com
14May02 21:27:34 Connecting to smtp.dsl.pipex.com
14May02 21:27:34 Connecting to smtp.dsl.pipex.com
14May02 21:27:34 Connected to smtp.dsl.pipex.com, starting SMTP session
14May02 21:27:34 Connected to smtp.dsl.pipex.com, starting SMTP session
14May02 21:27:34 Connected to smtp.dsl.pipex.com, starting SMTP session
14May02 21:27:37 Connected to smtp.dsl.pipex.com, starting SMTP session
14May02 21:27:44 503 Improper use of SMTP command pipelining
14May02 21:27:44 554 Error: no valid recipients
14May02 21:27:44 503 Improper use of SMTP command pipelining
14May02 21:27:44 554 Error: no valid recipients
14May02 21:27:44 503 Improper use of SMTP command pipelining
14May02 21:27:44 554 Error: no valid recipients
14May02 21:27:47 503 Improper use of SMTP command pipelining
14May02 21:27:47 554 Error: no valid recipients
14May02 21:27:50 Windis32 stopped
Thanks in advance,
--
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Richard Clayton
<d...@dvdfever.co.uk> writes
><<<< 220 nemesis.systems.pipex.net ESMTP Postfix
>>>>> HELO 4thenet.co.uk
You shouldn't pipeline without using EHLO :( [see RFC2197]
however if it was an EHLO it should have been the end of the group
>>>>> MAIL FROM: <d...@dvdfever.co.uk>
>>>>> RCPT TO: <d...@dvdfever.co.uk>
>>>>> DATA
><<<< 250 nemesis.systems.pipex.net
response to the HELO
><<<< 250 Ok
despite the illegal pipelining of the MAIL FROM command, it has in fact
accepted it (and also despite the space after the colon)
><<<< 503 Improper use of SMTP command pipelining
but Pipex have then objected to the RCPT TO (again with specious space)
><<<< 554 Error: no valid recipients
and since the RCPT TO failed the DATA then fails
>>>>> QUIT
><<<< 221 Bye
at a guess, this is either a change of software at Pipex or the ADSL
link is now running fast enough for the failure to wait for the response
to HELO to be spotted!
anyway's up - failure to obey the rules makes it hard to assign blame to
any other component :(
--
richard Richard Clayton
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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
Dom Robinson
> In article <MPG.174b9d9af...@news.cis.dfn.de>, Dom Robinson
> <d...@dvdfever.co.uk> writes
>
> ><<<< 220 nemesis.systems.pipex.net ESMTP Postfix
> >>>>> HELO 4thenet.co.uk
>
> You shouldn't pipeline without using EHLO :( [see RFC2197]
>
> however if it was an EHLO it should have been the end of the group
Sorry if I'm sounding thick, but what's pipeline and what's EHLO ?
And why is it dragging back 4thenet.co.uk into it when I no longer use them?
> >>>>> MAIL FROM: <d...@dvdfever.co.uk>
> >>>>> RCPT TO: <d...@dvdfever.co.uk>
> >>>>> DATA
> ><<<< 250 nemesis.systems.pipex.net
>
> response to the HELO
>
> ><<<< 250 Ok
>
> despite the illegal pipelining of the MAIL FROM command, it has in fact
> accepted it (and also despite the space after the colon)
>
> ><<<< 503 Improper use of SMTP command pipelining
>
> but Pipex have then objected to the RCPT TO (again with specious space)
>
> ><<<< 554 Error: no valid recipients
>
> and since the RCPT TO failed the DATA then fails
>
> >>>>> QUIT
> ><<<< 221 Bye
>
> at a guess, this is either a change of software at Pipex or the ADSL
> link is now running fast enough for the failure to wait for the response
> to HELO to be spotted!
>
> anyway's up - failure to obey the rules makes it hard to assign blame to
> any other component :(
Thanks for your reply to this, but can you break it down in layman's terms for
me please. Also, how can I correct whatever illegal stuff it's doing because I
use Windis32 to upload email and without it I'm totally knackered.
TIA,
Richard Clayton
<d...@dvdfever.co.uk> writes
>In article <QsO3dAC1...@highwayman.com>, ric...@highwayman.com says...
>> In article <MPG.174b9d9af...@news.cis.dfn.de>, Dom Robinson
>> <d...@dvdfever.co.uk> writes
>>
>> ><<<< 220 nemesis.systems.pipex.net ESMTP Postfix
>> >>>>> HELO 4thenet.co.uk
>>
>> You shouldn't pipeline without using EHLO :( [see RFC2197]
>>
>> however if it was an EHLO it should have been the end of the group
>
>Sorry if I'm sounding thick, but what's pipeline and what's EHLO ?
EHLO is part of ESMTP - and pipelining is sending more than one command
at a time without waiting for the response
>And why is it dragging back 4thenet.co.uk into it when I no longer use them?
somewhere in your software this is set as your hostname -- it has no
real bad effect here, but it's probably worth setting correctly
Dom Robinson
> In article <MPG.174bba358...@news.cis.dfn.de>, Dom Robinson
> <d...@dvdfever.co.uk> writes
>
> >In article <QsO3dAC1...@highwayman.com>, ric...@highwayman.com says...
> >> In article <MPG.174b9d9af...@news.cis.dfn.de>, Dom Robinson
> >> <d...@dvdfever.co.uk> writes
> >>
> >> ><<<< 220 nemesis.systems.pipex.net ESMTP Postfix
> >> >>>>> HELO 4thenet.co.uk
> >>
> >> You shouldn't pipeline without using EHLO :( [see RFC2197]
> >>
> >> however if it was an EHLO it should have been the end of the group
> >
> >Sorry if I'm sounding thick, but what's pipeline and what's EHLO ?
>
> EHLO is part of ESMTP - and pipelining is sending more than one command
> at a time without waiting for the response
Since Windis32 is pumping out all these commands at once, is there a way round
it, perhaps by slowing it down somehow, or, failing that, is there an
alternative program I can use to upload the email?
> >And why is it dragging back 4thenet.co.uk into it when I no longer use them?
>
> somewhere in your software this is set as your hostname -- it has no
> real bad effect here, but it's probably worth setting correctly
Ah, just found it. Thanks.
Thanks in advance again,
John McCabe
wrote:
>> somewhere in your software this is set as your hostname -- it has no
>> real bad effect here, but it's probably worth setting correctly
>
>Ah, just found it. Thanks.
As a matter of interest, does that make a difference?
Dom Robinson
john....@nospamassen.nospamdemon.co.uk says...
when you click setup.
John McCabe
wrote:
>In article <3ce212d...@news.demon.co.uk>,
>john....@nospamassen.nospamdemon.co.uk says...
>> On Wed, 15 May 2002 08:08:47 +0100, Dom Robinson <d...@dvdfever.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> somewhere in your software this is set as your hostname -- it has no
>> >> real bad effect here, but it's probably worth setting correctly
>> >
>> >Ah, just found it. Thanks.
>>
>> As a matter of interest, does that make a difference?
>>
>>
>Sadly, not. It's just the label entered in "Internet Host Name" on Windis32
>when you click setup.
Try:
"File" => "Setup..."
Press "Edit..." in the "Configuration Sets" area.
Select the "Mail" tab.
In the "Client" area, ensure "Batch Mode SMTP" is not checked.
"OK"
"OK"
And try again.
Does it work?
Dom Robinson
> On Wed, 15 May 2002 08:54:51 +0100, Dom Robinson <d...@dvdfever.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <3ce212d...@news.demon.co.uk>,
> >john....@nospamassen.nospamdemon.co.uk says...
> >> On Wed, 15 May 2002 08:08:47 +0100, Dom Robinson <d...@dvdfever.co.uk>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> somewhere in your software this is set as your hostname -- it has no
> >> >> real bad effect here, but it's probably worth setting correctly
> >> >
> >> >Ah, just found it. Thanks.
> >>
> >> As a matter of interest, does that make a difference?
> >>
> >>
> >Sadly, not. It's just the label entered in "Internet Host Name" on Windis32
> >when you click setup.
>
> Try:
>
> "File" => "Setup..."
>
> Press "Edit..." in the "Configuration Sets" area.
>
> Select the "Mail" tab.
>
> In the "Client" area, ensure "Batch Mode SMTP" is not checked.
>
> "OK"
>
> "OK"
>
> And try again.
>
> Does it work?
>
>
at work today I kept thinking about how I couldn't send email any more :)
I wonder if something at Pipex has changed for it to reject Batch mode SMTP,
since my previous configuration for when I was using 4thenet had that box
checked.
John McCabe
wrote:
>> Does it work?
>Yes, that's sorted it. Thanks very much. I owe you one. Whenever it was quiet
>at work today I kept thinking about how I couldn't send email any more :)
Glad to be of assistance.
>I wonder if something at Pipex has changed for it to reject Batch mode SMTP,
>since my previous configuration for when I was using 4thenet had that box
>checked.
You never know. That Batch Mode box appears to mean pipelining in the
ESMTP sense, but WinDIS never sends an EHLO message, the ESMTP
equivalent of HELO, so shouldn't really use it unless the server is
happy with it!
Raj Rijhwani
<MPG.174b9d9af...@news.cis.dfn.de>
d...@dvdfever.co.uk "Dom Robinson" wrote:
> Halfway through uploading a number of emails tonight, all of a sudden Windis32
> has started rejecting any emails sent through it which I create with CPPnews
Batch SMTP doesn't work properly under Windis. I had this problem myself
when I tried to use it. Have you changed your SMTP settings recently?
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BMG support
> is there an
> alternative program I can use to upload the email?
(see below)
And well done to John McCabe and Raj Rijhwani, an impressive fix.
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