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Terry Blunt

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Aug 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/7/99
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How do I disable turnpike's auto disconnect? Or can I at least change
the timeout.

There have been a number of times when I've been viewing a long or
complex web page and found I've lost the connection without realising
it.

--
Terry Blunt <te...@langri.demon.co.uk>

Age gives you the experience to screw up properly.

John Woodgate

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Aug 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/9/99
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<LYq9NBAQ...@langri.demon.co.uk>, Terry Blunt

<te...@langri.demon.co.uk> inimitably wrote:
>How do I disable turnpike's auto disconnect? Or can I at least change
>the timeout.
Run 'Connect', click on the 'Connect' button and change the value in the
box in the lower right corner of the panel. I find 240 s is enough for
using the web. It is inadvisable to disable it entirely, since you might
remain connected inadvertently and run up a BIG phone bill.
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Terry Blunt

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Aug 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/9/99
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In article <yGfPsBADOmr3Ewa$@jmwa.demon.co.uk>, John Woodgate
<j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk> writes

><LYq9NBAQ...@langri.demon.co.uk>, Terry Blunt
><te...@langri.demon.co.uk> inimitably wrote:
>>How do I disable turnpike's auto disconnect? Or can I at least change
>>the timeout.
>Run 'Connect', click on the 'Connect' button and change the value in the
>box in the lower right corner of the panel. I find 240 s is enough for
>using the web. It is inadvisable to disable it entirely, since you might
>remain connected inadvertently and run up a BIG phone bill.

I'm running V4.02 and can't find the writable box you refer to. The help
system makes absolutely no reference to this BTW :-(

Dr Nigel Mackintosh

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Aug 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/9/99
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John Woodgate <j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk> writes

>Run 'Connect', click on the 'Connect' button and change the value in the
>box in the lower right corner of the panel. I find 240 s is enough for
>using the web. It is inadvisable to disable it entirely, since you might
>remain connected inadvertently and run up a BIG phone bill.

I was recently surprised to find that it doesn't seem to matter what
settings you use - it is still possible to stay on-line for ever!

I accidentally left an IE5 connection open twice recently, and Connect
allowed it to stay open both times for hours until I manually
terminated. I blamed IE5, but tried an experiment with only Connect left
running - still the same! Connect counts down from 300s to often only
270s (sometimes as low as 150s) and then sends something to Demon so
that it resets the clock to 300s.

News and mail collection are both set to 10 mins. Even if they are
totally out of phase, that would only give a kick every 5 mins - so I
don't know what Connect is sending so frequently. Any ideas anyone?

Regards

Nigel
--
Dr Nigel Mackintosh Mackintosh Consultants, Wales
DISK DRIVE INDUSTRY CONSULTANTS SPECIALISTS IN E.C. FUNDING
Tel: 01244-819797 Fax: -819796 http://www.ndmack.demon.co.uk
E-mail: change 'nospam' to 'ndmack' (sorry - I really hate spammers!)

Geep

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Aug 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/9/99
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In article <Y0cydQAz...@langri.demon.co.uk>, Terry Blunt
<te...@langri.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <yGfPsBADOmr3Ewa$@jmwa.demon.co.uk>, John Woodgate
><j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk> writes

>>Run 'Connect', click on the 'Connect' button and change the value in the
>>box in the lower right corner of the panel. I find 240 s is enough for
>>using the web. It is inadvisable to disable it entirely, since you might
>>remain connected inadvertently and run up a BIG phone bill.
>

>I'm running V4.02 and can't find the writable box you refer to. The help
>system makes absolutely no reference to this BTW :-(
>

Run Connect (the main Turnpike program you use to connect), then click
the big Connect button, as though you were going to connect. Another
window opens, and you would normally click on the grey 'Connect' button
(top, right) to dial, yes?

Don't click on that. Look below it - there are four more buttons, the
first greyed out, the second Close, the third Help and the last
<<Details.

Below that is a box labelled Idle timeout [box] seconds.

Type a number in that box. I use 120 (two minutes). Then either
Connect, or Close.
--
Graeme
Hertford, England

Martin Biggs

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Aug 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/9/99
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In article <GqPGvAAM...@ndmack.demon.co.uk>, Dr Nigel Mackintosh
<ni...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes

>John Woodgate <j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk> writes
>>Run 'Connect', click on the 'Connect' button and change the value in the
>>box in the lower right corner of the panel. I find 240 s is enough for
>>using the web. It is inadvisable to disable it entirely, since you might
>>remain connected inadvertently and run up a BIG phone bill.
>
>I was recently surprised to find that it doesn't seem to matter what
>settings you use - it is still possible to stay on-line for ever!
>
>I accidentally left an IE5 connection open twice recently, and Connect
>allowed it to stay open both times for hours until I manually
>terminated. I blamed IE5, but tried an experiment with only Connect left
>running - still the same! Connect counts down from 300s to often only
>270s (sometimes as low as 150s) and then sends something to Demon so
>that it resets the clock to 300s.
>
>News and mail collection are both set to 10 mins. Even if they are
>totally out of phase, that would only give a kick every 5 mins - so I
>don't know what Connect is sending so frequently. Any ideas anyone?

Are you sure you don't have something else running. I fell for just
what you described above, I eventually found out it was ICQ that I had
forgot about.

Hope this helps,
--
Martin Biggs UIN: 735672

*** You are unique.... just like everybody else. ***

John Woodgate

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Aug 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/9/99
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<Y0cydQAz...@langri.demon.co.uk>, Terry Blunt

<te...@langri.demon.co.uk> inimitably wrote:
>In article <yGfPsBADOmr3Ewa$@jmwa.demon.co.uk>, John Woodgate
><j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk> writes
>><LYq9NBAQ...@langri.demon.co.uk>, Terry Blunt
>><te...@langri.demon.co.uk> inimitably wrote:
>>>How do I disable turnpike's auto disconnect? Or can I at least change
>>>the timeout.
>>Run 'Connect', click on the 'Connect' button and change the value in the
>>box in the lower right corner of the panel. I find 240 s is enough for
>>using the web. It is inadvisable to disable it entirely, since you might
>>remain connected inadvertently and run up a BIG phone bill.
>
>I'm running V4.02 and can't find the writable box you refer to. The help
>system makes absolutely no reference to this BTW :-(
>
You aren't looking in the right place. Go to the 'Connect' opening
panel, with the pretty buttons along the top and find the one at the top
left, labelled 'Connect'. Click on it. You get another panel
superimposed. DO NOT click on 'Connect' in the top right corner!
Instead, look in the lower right corner. If you see a button labelled
'Details >>', click on it, and all should be revealed. If, however, you
see a button labelled '<< Details', look below it.

Terry Blunt

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Aug 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/9/99
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In article <OsVVJIA5pur3Ew$4...@binnsroad.demon.co.uk>, Geep
<ge...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <Y0cydQAz...@langri.demon.co.uk>, Terry Blunt
><te...@langri.demon.co.uk> writes

>>In article <yGfPsBADOmr3Ewa$@jmwa.demon.co.uk>, John Woodgate
>><j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>>>Run 'Connect', click on the 'Connect' button and change the value in the
>>>box in the lower right corner of the panel. I find 240 s is enough for
>>>using the web. It is inadvisable to disable it entirely, since you might
>>>remain connected inadvertently and run up a BIG phone bill.
>>
>>I'm running V4.02 and can't find the writable box you refer to. The help
>>system makes absolutely no reference to this BTW :-(
>>
>Run Connect (the main Turnpike program you use to connect), then click
>the big Connect button, as though you were going to connect. Another
>window opens, and you would normally click on the grey 'Connect' button
>(top, right) to dial, yes?
>
>Don't click on that. Look below it - there are four more buttons, the
>first greyed out, the second Close, the third Help and the last
><<Details.
>
>Below that is a box labelled Idle timeout [box] seconds.
>
>Type a number in that box. I use 120 (two minutes). Then either
>Connect, or Close.

Thanks to you both for your help. I've got it now.

John Woodgate

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Aug 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/9/99
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<GqPGvAAM...@ndmack.demon.co.uk>, Dr Nigel Mackintosh
<ni...@nospam.demon.co.uk> inimitably wrote:
>I accidentally left an IE5 connection open twice recently, and Connect
>allowed it to stay open both times for hours until I manually
>terminated. I blamed IE5, but tried an experiment with only Connect left
>running - still the same! Connect counts down from 300s to often only
>270s (sometimes as low as 150s) and then sends something to Demon so
>that it resets the clock to 300s.
>
>News and mail collection are both set to 10 mins. Even if they are
>totally out of phase, that would only give a kick every 5 mins - so I
>don't know what Connect is sending so frequently. Any ideas anyone?

It isn't Connect, or anything in Turnpike. It's one of Billy G's clever
automatic things designed for maximum annoyance value, but I can't
remember which one. It can be killed without actually taking an axe to
the computer.

Paul Terry

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Aug 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/9/99
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In article <FynChTAh...@jmwa.demon.co.uk> John Woodgate wrote:

>It isn't Connect, or anything in Turnpike. It's one of Billy G's clever
>automatic things designed for maximum annoyance value, but I can't
>remember which one.

If you mean the blasted Webcheck monitor, then I recommend it is removed
ASAP. Start up in DOS mode and deleted the Webcheck loader, normally:

c:\windows\system\loadwc.exe

(IE4 will then load more quickly and you will find you have more RAM
available :)

I also deleted the Registry key that loads loadwc.exe:

\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run

--
Paul Terry

Dr Nigel Mackintosh

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Aug 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/10/99
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Paul Terry <pa...@musonix.demon.co.uk> writes

>If you mean the blasted Webcheck monitor, then I recommend it is removed
>ASAP.

Thanks for the tip. What is it exactly? Is it always OK to remove it?

Paul Terry

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Aug 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/10/99
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In article <djJLsBAm$1r3...@ndmack.demon.co.uk> Dr Nigel Mackintosh
wrote:

>Paul Terry <pa...@musonix.demon.co.uk> writes
>>If you mean the blasted Webcheck monitor, then I recommend it is removed
>>ASAP.
>
>Thanks for the tip. What is it exactly?

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q176/9/60.asp

> Is it always OK to remove it?

If in doubt, rename it rather than removing it. I am not entirely sure
it is what will be causing your problem, though - although it does
monitor channel subscriptions, so I suppose it is possible.

--
Paul Terry

Dr Nigel Mackintosh

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Aug 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/10/99
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Paul Terry <pa...@musonix.demon.co.uk> writes

>http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q176/9/60.asp

Found and read - thanks for the pointer.

>> Is it always OK to remove it?
>
>If in doubt, rename it rather than removing it. I am not entirely sure
>it is what will be causing your problem, though - although it does
>monitor channel subscriptions, so I suppose it is possible.

I suspect this was not actually the culprit. I was able to rename the
file from Windows (i.e. it was not in use) and it was nowhere to be
found in the Registry (though there were loads of mentions of WebCheck
itself). I don't use channels anyway.

Any more ideas? Or what could I use to capture the offending
transmission - maybe WinTop? Does anyone else find that the auto timeout
fails?

Thanks

Robert Bradley

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Mon, 9 Aug 1999 20:43:29 <FynChTAh...@jmwa.demon.co.uk>
In demon.ip.support.turnpike, John Woodgate <j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk>
posted...

>It isn't Connect, or anything in Turnpike. It's one of Billy G's clever
>automatic things designed for maximum annoyance value, but I can't
>remember which one. It can be killed without actually taking an axe to
>the computer.

Critical Update Notification, WebCheck*, Subscriptions...

*

Kill it with any utility that allows you access to 'hidden' tasks. Its
'MS_WebcheckMonitor' here.

--
Robert Bradley

I am not a mindreader, so I don't know everything.

Robert Bradley

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Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:27:53 <kqxl2vAZ...@musonix.com>
In demon.ip.support.turnpike, Paul Terry <pa...@musonix.demon.co.uk>
posted...

>In article <FynChTAh...@jmwa.demon.co.uk> John Woodgate wrote:
>
>>It isn't Connect, or anything in Turnpike. It's one of Billy G's clever
>>automatic things designed for maximum annoyance value, but I can't
>>remember which one.
>
>If you mean the blasted Webcheck monitor, then I recommend it is removed
>ASAP. Start up in DOS mode and deleted the Webcheck loader, normally:
>
> c:\windows\system\loadwc.exe
>
>(IE4 will then load more quickly and you will find you have more RAM
>available :)
>
>I also deleted the Registry key that loads loadwc.exe:
>
>\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run
>

It's Win95/NT only, though. Win98 loads it *inside* the Explorer
process (the shell)!

Possible Fix:

Rename %systemroot%\webcheck.dll? I haven't tried it.

File Information:

'Windows 98 web site monitor dynamic link library file.'

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