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Sep 9, 2019, 2:01:47 PM9/9/19
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Dear All
Is anyone using MS Outlook (or anything else other than Turnpike) as
their Email Client to Turnpike Connect?
Ideally, we would like to keep Turnpike Connect as our Email Sever, but
can see that MS is pushing it's 64bit Operating Systems more and more.
Although we currently use VM to run 32bit MS Operating Systems for
Turnpike, it would be nice to be able to use an Email Client that will
run directly on a MS 64bit Operating System.
I have successfully connected Thunderbird 60.9.0 (32-bit) (running on
MS7 64bit) to Turnpike Connect, but not over happy with it - it needs a
bit more fine tuning re where it is saving sent emails etc.
I have also successfully connected MS Outlook (running on MS7 64bit) to
Turnpike Connect, but not had time to play around with it.
Have you tried anything?
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news
Is anyone using MS Outlook (or anything else other than Turnpike) as
their Email Client to Turnpike Connect?
Ideally, we would like to keep Turnpike Connect as our Email Sever, but
can see that MS is pushing it's 64bit Operating Systems more and more.
Although we currently use VM to run 32bit MS Operating Systems for
Turnpike, it would be nice to be able to use an Email Client that will
run directly on a MS 64bit Operating System.
I have successfully connected Thunderbird 60.9.0 (32-bit) (running on
MS7 64bit) to Turnpike Connect, but not over happy with it - it needs a
bit more fine tuning re where it is saving sent emails etc.
I have also successfully connected MS Outlook (running on MS7 64bit) to
Turnpike Connect, but not had time to play around with it.
Have you tried anything?
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news
Mike Swift
Sep 9, 2019, 7:37:21 PM9/9/19
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In article <D2TIRiI3...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> writes
Virgin Media broke e-mail for my 5.02U Turnpike, it still works with
newsgroups though.
I also now use Thunderbird which works for the limited e-mails I need to
send, I can still receive them in Turnpike but not send so I send with
Thunderbird.
Mike
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Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange
newsgroups though.
I also now use Thunderbird which works for the limited e-mails I need to
send, I can still receive them in Turnpike but not send so I send with
Thunderbird.
Mike
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Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange
news
Sep 10, 2019, 3:15:00 AM9/10/19
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In message <Cd4jETAy...@ntlworld.com>, Mike Swift
<mike....@yeton.co.uk> writes
it sounds like you need to have Stunnel to be able to send your emails
to Virgin via Turnpike Connect.
By converting to Thunderbird for both Sending and Receiving your Emails,
you are in effect using a stand alone Email Client connected directly to
your ISP's Email Server.
If my understanding is correct, you cannot use Thunderbird as an Email
Server, you can only use it as a Email Client, which is not useful in a
small Office environment
I appreciate the v5.02 of Turnpike will run on 64bit machines, but we
really do not want to convert back from v6.07.
Mark
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news
<mike....@yeton.co.uk> writes
>Virgin Media broke e-mail for my 5.02U Turnpike, it still works with
>newsgroups though.
>
>I also now use Thunderbird which works for the limited e-mails I need
>to send, I can still receive them in Turnpike but not send so I send
>with Thunderbird.
>
>Mike
>
Mike thank you for your reply. I am no expert in Turnpike matters, but
>newsgroups though.
>
>I also now use Thunderbird which works for the limited e-mails I need
>to send, I can still receive them in Turnpike but not send so I send
>with Thunderbird.
>
>Mike
>
it sounds like you need to have Stunnel to be able to send your emails
to Virgin via Turnpike Connect.
By converting to Thunderbird for both Sending and Receiving your Emails,
you are in effect using a stand alone Email Client connected directly to
your ISP's Email Server.
If my understanding is correct, you cannot use Thunderbird as an Email
Server, you can only use it as a Email Client, which is not useful in a
small Office environment
I appreciate the v5.02 of Turnpike will run on 64bit machines, but we
really do not want to convert back from v6.07.
Mark
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Mike Swift
Sep 10, 2019, 9:42:59 AM9/10/19
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In article <qpCyGiAz...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> writes
up wrong and it completely broke my computer and even my local computer
shop couldn't fix it, he needed to wipe and start again.
I'll stick with Thunderbird for the few e-mails I send :-)
>>I also now use Thunderbird which works for the limited e-mails I need
>>to send, I can still receive them in Turnpike but not send so I send
>>with Thunderbird.
>>
>>Mike
>>
> Mike thank you for your reply. I am no expert in Turnpike matters, but it
>sounds like you need to have Stunnel to be able to send your emails to
>Virgin via Turnpike Connect.
I was told at the time to use Stunnel which I tried, I must have set it
>>to send, I can still receive them in Turnpike but not send so I send
>>with Thunderbird.
>>
>>Mike
>>
> Mike thank you for your reply. I am no expert in Turnpike matters, but it
>sounds like you need to have Stunnel to be able to send your emails to
>Virgin via Turnpike Connect.
up wrong and it completely broke my computer and even my local computer
shop couldn't fix it, he needed to wipe and start again.
I'll stick with Thunderbird for the few e-mails I send :-)
news
Sep 10, 2019, 12:07:53 PM9/10/19
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In message <e58kNKAh...@ntlworld.com>, Mike Swift
<mike....@yeton.co.uk> writes
you major problems with your computer.
We have been using Stunnel with AAISP since March of this year.
At the time or writing this (17:02 BST) we have received 79 incoming
emails and sent 10 out.
Unfortunately Thunderbird cannot be used as an Email Server (in a small
Office environment), so we need to stay with Turnpike Connect.
Mark
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news
<mike....@yeton.co.uk> writes
>In article <qpCyGiAz...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> writes
>>>I also now use Thunderbird which works for the limited e-mails I need
>>>to send, I can still receive them in Turnpike but not send so I send
>>>with Thunderbird.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>> Mike thank you for your reply. I am no expert in Turnpike matters, but it
>>sounds like you need to have Stunnel to be able to send your emails to
>>Virgin via Turnpike Connect.
>
>
>I was told at the time to use Stunnel which I tried, I must have set it
>up wrong and it completely broke my computer and even my local computer
>shop couldn't fix it, he needed to wipe and start again.
>
>I'll stick with Thunderbird for the few e-mails I send :-)
>
>Mike
>
Sorry to hear that you had a problem setting up Stunnel and it caused
>>>I also now use Thunderbird which works for the limited e-mails I need
>>>to send, I can still receive them in Turnpike but not send so I send
>>>with Thunderbird.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>> Mike thank you for your reply. I am no expert in Turnpike matters, but it
>>sounds like you need to have Stunnel to be able to send your emails to
>>Virgin via Turnpike Connect.
>
>
>I was told at the time to use Stunnel which I tried, I must have set it
>up wrong and it completely broke my computer and even my local computer
>shop couldn't fix it, he needed to wipe and start again.
>
>I'll stick with Thunderbird for the few e-mails I send :-)
>
>Mike
>
you major problems with your computer.
We have been using Stunnel with AAISP since March of this year.
At the time or writing this (17:02 BST) we have received 79 incoming
emails and sent 10 out.
Unfortunately Thunderbird cannot be used as an Email Server (in a small
Office environment), so we need to stay with Turnpike Connect.
Mark
--
news
Invalid
Sep 10, 2019, 2:40:45 PM9/10/19
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In message <D2TIRiI3...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> writes
I currently run Connect on a small (headless - no monitor, keyboard or
mouse) 32bit win 10 machine that is on 7/24 (it also monitors other
things). It runs Stunnel to cope with encryption and POPFile to sort
out the spam and advertising mail from the useful stuff. Connect
collects and sorts mail via POP3 from five sources (My own domain
provider, Gmail, Outlook.com, BTmail and Plusnet) which I use for
various purposes and news from a couple of sources.
My main desktop, and a couple of tablets I use as clients, are all 64bit
Win10
I can access mail in four ways.
a) by connecting to the 32bit machine using TightVNC and running
Turnpike client directly on the 32bit machine in the VNC window.
b) I have Thunderbird set up on the desktop to access Connect as an IMAP
server.
c) I have Outlook (used for University mail as they no longer allow POP
connections) which also connects to Turnpike via IMAP.
d) I have a 32bit Win10 VM on the desktop that runs Turnpike and
connects to the databases on the small 32bit machine over the Ethernet
LAN.
80% of the time I use a). It works well, and allows me to access mail
from the tablets over WiFi without the problems that Turnpike has with
dodgy network links.
I use b) occasionally, typically when I get E-mails from firms which
Turnpike client declines to open (illegal character in Quoted printable
- or words to that effect). My car insurer is the worst culprit!! I also
use Thunderbird to access my historic mail archive. It's easier to
export it (drag and drop) to Thunderbird than having to switch pointers
in Turnpike. It's also handy if I need to open (trusted) attachments for
which I don't have viewers on the 32bit machine.
I use c) occasionally if I am keeping an eye out for important mail when
dealing with University traffic. I also use Outlook as my main calendar
and contacts list.
I used to use d) a lot, but now find a) more convenient than opening a
VM. This became more true since I switched to WIN10 in the VM.
Virtualbox will not do seamless mode for a Win10 client, so I get the
same effect using TightVNC. a) is also less resource intensive on the
tablets.
Hope this helps.
Regards
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Invalid
mouse) 32bit win 10 machine that is on 7/24 (it also monitors other
things). It runs Stunnel to cope with encryption and POPFile to sort
out the spam and advertising mail from the useful stuff. Connect
collects and sorts mail via POP3 from five sources (My own domain
provider, Gmail, Outlook.com, BTmail and Plusnet) which I use for
various purposes and news from a couple of sources.
My main desktop, and a couple of tablets I use as clients, are all 64bit
Win10
I can access mail in four ways.
a) by connecting to the 32bit machine using TightVNC and running
Turnpike client directly on the 32bit machine in the VNC window.
b) I have Thunderbird set up on the desktop to access Connect as an IMAP
server.
c) I have Outlook (used for University mail as they no longer allow POP
connections) which also connects to Turnpike via IMAP.
d) I have a 32bit Win10 VM on the desktop that runs Turnpike and
connects to the databases on the small 32bit machine over the Ethernet
LAN.
80% of the time I use a). It works well, and allows me to access mail
from the tablets over WiFi without the problems that Turnpike has with
dodgy network links.
I use b) occasionally, typically when I get E-mails from firms which
Turnpike client declines to open (illegal character in Quoted printable
- or words to that effect). My car insurer is the worst culprit!! I also
use Thunderbird to access my historic mail archive. It's easier to
export it (drag and drop) to Thunderbird than having to switch pointers
in Turnpike. It's also handy if I need to open (trusted) attachments for
which I don't have viewers on the 32bit machine.
I use c) occasionally if I am keeping an eye out for important mail when
dealing with University traffic. I also use Outlook as my main calendar
and contacts list.
I used to use d) a lot, but now find a) more convenient than opening a
VM. This became more true since I switched to WIN10 in the VM.
Virtualbox will not do seamless mode for a Win10 client, so I get the
same effect using TightVNC. a) is also less resource intensive on the
tablets.
Hope this helps.
Regards
--
Invalid
J. P. Gilliver (John)
Sep 10, 2019, 5:47:47 PM9/10/19
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In message <6L0VU4Je...@wisty.plus.com>, Invalid
(IIRR looks like a little piece of paper with strange character on it),
and it opens anyway (sometimes with extraneous "text" as well, but I can
usually see the gist of the content).
>also use Thunderbird to access my historic mail archive. It's easier to
>export it (drag and drop) to Thunderbird than having to switch pointers
>in Turnpike. It's also handy if I need to open (trusted) attachments
>for which I don't have viewers on the 32bit machine.
Tell me more about switching pointers to access archives. Is that
something that can let you put some old emails into a different place
(e. g. to get round the 2G/4G limit) but still be able to access them
with Turnpike?
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
You'll need to have this fish in your ear. (First series, fit the first.)
<ne...@wisty.plus.com.invalid> writes:
>In message <D2TIRiI3...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> writes
>>Dear All
>>
>>Is anyone using MS Outlook (or anything else other than Turnpike) as
>>their Email Client to Turnpike Connect?
[]
>In message <D2TIRiI3...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> writes
>>Dear All
>>
>>Is anyone using MS Outlook (or anything else other than Turnpike) as
>>their Email Client to Turnpike Connect?
>b) I have Thunderbird set up on the desktop to access Connect as an
>IMAP server.
[]
>IMAP server.
>I use b) occasionally, typically when I get E-mails from firms which
>Turnpike client declines to open (illegal character in Quoted printable
>- or words to that effect). My car insurer is the worst culprit!! I
If that's the thing I'm thinking of, I just click on the little symbol
>Turnpike client declines to open (illegal character in Quoted printable
>- or words to that effect). My car insurer is the worst culprit!! I
(IIRR looks like a little piece of paper with strange character on it),
and it opens anyway (sometimes with extraneous "text" as well, but I can
usually see the gist of the content).
>also use Thunderbird to access my historic mail archive. It's easier to
>export it (drag and drop) to Thunderbird than having to switch pointers
>in Turnpike. It's also handy if I need to open (trusted) attachments
>for which I don't have viewers on the 32bit machine.
something that can let you put some old emails into a different place
(e. g. to get round the 2G/4G limit) but still be able to access them
with Turnpike?
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
You'll need to have this fish in your ear. (First series, fit the first.)
SilverE
Sep 11, 2019, 1:52:55 PM9/11/19
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At 19:34:06 on Tue, 10 Sep 2019, Invalid wrote in
<6L0VU4Je...@wisty.plus.com>
As a subset of this thorough scheme, I use Outlook as an IMAP client to
read illegible html emails (whether illegal or just too complex to
display well), and to back up my mailbase which I do by copying it all
across to my outlook.com email account. It's not too large so doesn't
take long to upload, and then it's backed up remotely and accessible
remotely. Equally, Outlook holds my calendar and contacts: if I didn't
want Outlook for that I'd probably use TBird.
Of course you have to have a 32bit machine somewhere to run the Turnpike
explorer for admin tasks (users, passwords etc.).
--
SilverE
<6L0VU4Je...@wisty.plus.com>
read illegible html emails (whether illegal or just too complex to
display well), and to back up my mailbase which I do by copying it all
across to my outlook.com email account. It's not too large so doesn't
take long to upload, and then it's backed up remotely and accessible
remotely. Equally, Outlook holds my calendar and contacts: if I didn't
want Outlook for that I'd probably use TBird.
Of course you have to have a 32bit machine somewhere to run the Turnpike
explorer for admin tasks (users, passwords etc.).
--
SilverE
Jim Crowther
Sep 11, 2019, 2:23:17 PM9/11/19
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In demon.ip.support.turnpike, on Wed, 11 Sep 2019 18:52:04, SilverE
wrote:
>As a subset of this thorough scheme,
And my scheme goes like this:
All emails to any of my addresses *except postmaster* are re-directed to
gmail. Gail's spam filtering is very, very good. :) Then gmail sends a
copy of all non-spam mail to postmaster, which I collect in Turnpike (on
an XP VM on a W7 Pro 64 host) and then deal with.
Any email that TP can't render can be viewed (cautiously) in gmail, and
I can reply from within gmail with my own domain address via my phone
when away from my laptop.
Another handy thing about doing this gmail stunt is that all pdf's can
be read immediately in Chrome, without faffing about getting Acrobat to
load ever so slowly.
Are there an infinite number of different ways people use TP? It seems
like it sometimes. :)
--
Jim Crowther
wrote:
>As a subset of this thorough scheme,
All emails to any of my addresses *except postmaster* are re-directed to
gmail. Gail's spam filtering is very, very good. :) Then gmail sends a
copy of all non-spam mail to postmaster, which I collect in Turnpike (on
an XP VM on a W7 Pro 64 host) and then deal with.
Any email that TP can't render can be viewed (cautiously) in gmail, and
I can reply from within gmail with my own domain address via my phone
when away from my laptop.
Another handy thing about doing this gmail stunt is that all pdf's can
be read immediately in Chrome, without faffing about getting Acrobat to
load ever so slowly.
Are there an infinite number of different ways people use TP? It seems
like it sometimes. :)
--
Jim Crowther
news
Sep 11, 2019, 2:53:03 PM9/11/19
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When you use either Thunderbird or MS Outlook as a Client of Turnpike
Connect, apart from just using them to read emails that you have
received, do you use them to reply, or do you use your TightVNC
connection or your d) Machine?
If you use Thunderbird or MS Outlook to reply, have you been able to
save your outgoing email in the Filed Folder etc. within Turnpike
Connect?
Would I be correct in saying that using the TightVNC connection back to
your 32bit win 10 machine, you can only connect as a Single User, i.e.
multiple Workstations couldn't individually use TightVNC and connect to
use Turnpike?
Our ISP A&A use Roundcube as their Webmail Client, and I am now
contemplating whether it would be possible to use Roundcube as a Email
Client of Turnpike Connect, if it is a workable solution, then it will
take away the problems of working in a 64bit environment, and still
allow the drag and drop features, etc. that Turnpike v6.07 gives us when
embedded in Widows Explorer.
The main reason for asking all of these questions, is that we are
interested regaining the speed of operation which is being hampered by
our VM's running Turnpike, and also retaining the Multi-User feature of
Turnpike Connect within a Small Home Office environment. We use
Turnpike Neighbourhood and can see the four Users and their respective
Mail Folders where permissions have been granted.
Mark
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SilverE
Sep 11, 2019, 4:22:58 PM9/11/19
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At 19:51:00 on Wed, 11 Sep 2019, news wrote in
<P4YrioEU...@ex8.co.uk>
Emails are saved in the Sent folder that Outlook creates, not TP's Filed
folder, but you can move them of course. That's for a single-user
system, it may look different if multi-user, and permissions may be an
issue.
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SilverE
<P4YrioEU...@ex8.co.uk>
>If you use Thunderbird or MS Outlook to reply, have you been able to
>save your outgoing email in the Filed Folder etc. within Turnpike
>Connect?
If I can reply on just this point wrt Outlook:
>save your outgoing email in the Filed Folder etc. within Turnpike
>Connect?
Emails are saved in the Sent folder that Outlook creates, not TP's Filed
folder, but you can move them of course. That's for a single-user
system, it may look different if multi-user, and permissions may be an
issue.
--
SilverE
news
Sep 12, 2019, 2:34:08 AM9/12/19
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In message <2wrfdSBR...@inspace.screaming.net>, SilverE
<w...@localhost.invalid> writes
SilverE, thank you for your reply re MS Outlook out going mail. From
memory I believe that was what I experienced when I tried Outlook. I
couldn't find a way to automatically re-direct the saving to the Filed
Folder in Turnpike Connect.
I believe Outlook's Sent Folder was being saved on the User's Machine,
when we would prefer it being saved centrally within Turnpike Connect
Mark
--
news
<w...@localhost.invalid> writes
memory I believe that was what I experienced when I tried Outlook. I
couldn't find a way to automatically re-direct the saving to the Filed
Folder in Turnpike Connect.
I believe Outlook's Sent Folder was being saved on the User's Machine,
when we would prefer it being saved centrally within Turnpike Connect
Mark
--
news
news
Sep 12, 2019, 3:26:10 AM9/12/19
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In message <5me8IPBE...@inspace.screaming.net>, SilverE
<w...@localhost.invalid> writes
Filed Folders to the Cloud is sound advice - I particular like the idea
of the remote access to historic emails.
At the present our nightly Backup Offsite (using Depositit into the
Cloud) involves a copy of the full Virtual Machine that Turnpike Connect
resides on.
Mark
--
news
<w...@localhost.invalid> writes
>>
>As a subset of this thorough scheme, I use Outlook as an IMAP client to
>read illegible html emails (whether illegal or just too complex to
>display well), and to back up my mailbase which I do by copying it all
>across to my outlook.com email account. It's not too large so doesn't
>take long to upload, and then it's backed up remotely and accessible
>remotely. Equally, Outlook holds my calendar and contacts: if I didn't
>want Outlook for that I'd probably use TBird.
>
>Of course you have to have a 32bit machine somewhere to run the
>Turnpike explorer for admin tasks (users, passwords etc.).
>
SilverE, thank you for this, the idea of backing up Turnpike Connect
>As a subset of this thorough scheme, I use Outlook as an IMAP client to
>read illegible html emails (whether illegal or just too complex to
>display well), and to back up my mailbase which I do by copying it all
>across to my outlook.com email account. It's not too large so doesn't
>take long to upload, and then it's backed up remotely and accessible
>remotely. Equally, Outlook holds my calendar and contacts: if I didn't
>want Outlook for that I'd probably use TBird.
>
>Of course you have to have a 32bit machine somewhere to run the
>Turnpike explorer for admin tasks (users, passwords etc.).
>
Filed Folders to the Cloud is sound advice - I particular like the idea
of the remote access to historic emails.
At the present our nightly Backup Offsite (using Depositit into the
Cloud) involves a copy of the full Virtual Machine that Turnpike Connect
resides on.
Mark
--
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Andy
Sep 12, 2019, 4:35:10 AM9/12/19
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In message <UyrNQIBY...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> wrote
[]
same VM for Photoshopping its size grew from its initial 9GB, and grew
more, and once reached 50 GIGAbytes :(
--
Andy Taylor [Editor & Treasurer, Austrian Philatelic Society].
Visit www dot austrianphilately dot com
[]
>
>At the present our nightly Backup Offsite (using Depositit into the
>Cloud) involves a copy of the full Virtual Machine that Turnpike
>Connect resides on.
>
I used to do something vaguely similar, but found that since I use the
>At the present our nightly Backup Offsite (using Depositit into the
>Cloud) involves a copy of the full Virtual Machine that Turnpike
>Connect resides on.
>
same VM for Photoshopping its size grew from its initial 9GB, and grew
more, and once reached 50 GIGAbytes :(
--
Andy Taylor [Editor & Treasurer, Austrian Philatelic Society].
Visit www dot austrianphilately dot com
news
Sep 12, 2019, 5:07:17 AM9/12/19
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In message <3OXLvnC4...@kitzbuhel.co.uk>, Andy
<an...@kitzbuhel.co.uk> writes
backup definitions which are run daily seven days a week, with up to
thirty day retention.
Last night's last backup returned:
Total storage used for all definitions: 44.85GB
Compressed to: 35.17GB
We have in the past been higher than 60.00GB Compressed, particularly
when we have changed a Workstation or Software.
Mark
--
news
<an...@kitzbuhel.co.uk> writes
>In message <UyrNQIBY...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> wrote
>[]
>>
>>At the present our nightly Backup Offsite (using Depositit into the
>>Cloud) involves a copy of the full Virtual Machine that Turnpike
>>Connect resides on.
>>
>I used to do something vaguely similar, but found that since I use the
>same VM for Photoshopping its size grew from its initial 9GB, and grew
>more, and once reached 50 GIGAbytes :(
Andy, we have experienced something similar - we have seven offsite
>[]
>>
>>At the present our nightly Backup Offsite (using Depositit into the
>>Cloud) involves a copy of the full Virtual Machine that Turnpike
>>Connect resides on.
>>
>I used to do something vaguely similar, but found that since I use the
>same VM for Photoshopping its size grew from its initial 9GB, and grew
>more, and once reached 50 GIGAbytes :(
backup definitions which are run daily seven days a week, with up to
thirty day retention.
Last night's last backup returned:
Total storage used for all definitions: 44.85GB
Compressed to: 35.17GB
We have in the past been higher than 60.00GB Compressed, particularly
when we have changed a Workstation or Software.
Mark
--
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Andy
Sep 12, 2019, 11:14:09 AM9/12/19
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In message <mdExrjAl...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> wrote
Does the VM you use have a compress-me facility? Mine (the XP one that
came with Windows 7 Pro) does; it has to be run offline with crossed
fingers but so far has always worked.
came with Windows 7 Pro) does; it has to be run offline with crossed
fingers but so far has always worked.
news
Sep 12, 2019, 12:15:36 PM9/12/19
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In message <$qSJ2SFu...@kitzbuhel.co.uk>, Andy
Backup operation, so hasn't anything to do with the VM software.
The actual backup size of VM Definition is 4592.37MB which is then
Compressed to 2221.74MB.
We are using Oracle VM VirtualBox 6.0 running MS Windows 2000 for just
Turnpike Connect & Stunnel.
--
news
<an...@kitzbuhel.co.uk> writes
>In message <mdExrjAl...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> wrote
>>In message <3OXLvnC4...@kitzbuhel.co.uk>, Andy
>><an...@kitzbuhel.co.uk> writes
>>>In message <UyrNQIBY...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> wrote
>>>[]
>>>>
>>>>At the present our nightly Backup Offsite (using Depositit into the
>>>>Cloud) involves a copy of the full Virtual Machine that Turnpike
>>>>Connect resides on.
>>>>
>>>I used to do something vaguely similar, but found that since I use
>>>the same VM for Photoshopping its size grew from its initial 9GB, and
>>>grew more, and once reached 50 GIGAbytes :(
>>
>>Andy, we have experienced something similar - we have seven offsite
>>backup definitions which are run daily seven days a week, with up to
>>thirty day retention.
>>
>>Last night's last backup returned:
>>Total storage used for all definitions: 44.85GB
>>Compressed to: 35.17GB
>>
>>We have in the past been higher than 60.00GB Compressed, particularly
>>when we have changed a Workstation or Software.
>>
>Does the VM you use have a compress-me facility? Mine (the XP one that
>came with Windows 7 Pro) does; it has to be run offline with crossed
>fingers but so far has always worked.
Sorry to mislead you, the compression takes place in the Depositit
>In message <mdExrjAl...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> wrote
>>In message <3OXLvnC4...@kitzbuhel.co.uk>, Andy
>><an...@kitzbuhel.co.uk> writes
>>>In message <UyrNQIBY...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> wrote
>>>[]
>>>>
>>>>At the present our nightly Backup Offsite (using Depositit into the
>>>>Cloud) involves a copy of the full Virtual Machine that Turnpike
>>>>Connect resides on.
>>>>
>>>I used to do something vaguely similar, but found that since I use
>>>the same VM for Photoshopping its size grew from its initial 9GB, and
>>>grew more, and once reached 50 GIGAbytes :(
>>
>>Andy, we have experienced something similar - we have seven offsite
>>backup definitions which are run daily seven days a week, with up to
>>thirty day retention.
>>
>>Last night's last backup returned:
>>Total storage used for all definitions: 44.85GB
>>Compressed to: 35.17GB
>>
>>We have in the past been higher than 60.00GB Compressed, particularly
>>when we have changed a Workstation or Software.
>>
>Does the VM you use have a compress-me facility? Mine (the XP one that
>came with Windows 7 Pro) does; it has to be run offline with crossed
>fingers but so far has always worked.
Backup operation, so hasn't anything to do with the VM software.
The actual backup size of VM Definition is 4592.37MB which is then
Compressed to 2221.74MB.
We are using Oracle VM VirtualBox 6.0 running MS Windows 2000 for just
Turnpike Connect & Stunnel.
--
news
Invalid
Sep 12, 2019, 2:31:46 PM9/12/19
to
In message <P4YrioEU...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> writes
I do tend to use the VNC connection in the main. The reason being I have
(as you might guess) multiple personalities within Turnpike, and sent
messages from the various personalities get filed by Turnpike in
different places.
>If you use Thunderbird or MS Outlook to reply, have you been able to
>save your outgoing email in the Filed Folder etc. within Turnpike
>Connect?
>
Turnpike appears as a single account within Thunderbird, but it does
allow you to decide on an account basis where to put sent mail. You
could point it at Filed on Turnpike should you wish.
>Would I be correct in saying that using the TightVNC connection back to
>your 32bit win 10 machine, you can only connect as a Single User, i.e.
>multiple Workstations couldn't individually use TightVNC and connect to
>use Turnpike?
TightVNC will allow you to open multiple connections to the server
simultaneously, and Turnpike will allow you to open multiple instances.
I only have one user on Turnpike, so I have never tried using different
users in different instances. However what TightVNC provides is access
to the desktop of the 32bit machine, so all open VNC clients see
whatever is going on on the desktop - and Windows itself is inherently a
single user system. What you want would work if the users took it in
turns, they couldn't operate Turnpike simultaneously.
>
>Our ISP A&A use Roundcube as their Webmail Client, and I am now
>contemplating whether it would be possible to use Roundcube as a Email
>Client of Turnpike Connect, if it is a workable solution, then it will
>take away the problems of working in a 64bit environment, and still
>allow the drag and drop features, etc. that Turnpike v6.07 gives us
>when embedded in Widows Explorer.
>
>The main reason for asking all of these questions, is that we are
>interested regaining the speed of operation which is being hampered by
>our VM's running Turnpike, and also retaining the Multi-User feature of
>Turnpike Connect within a Small Home Office environment. We use
>Turnpike Neighbourhood and can see the four Users and their respective
>Mail Folders where permissions have been granted.
>
>Mark
I understand. I have spent quite a lot of time looking for a connect
replacement. It is surprisingly hard!! What I want is a mail server I
can run locally which will collect mail (and news) using POP3 from
multiple sources. File it in the database (according to configurable
rules) and make it available via an IMAP server to any authorised
client.
hMail looks like a possibility, but the learning curve seems steep. VPOP
Enterprise will probably also do what I want - but now we are talking
real money!
From what you describe, I would certainly consider using Thunderbird as
your mail client using Connect as an IMAP server. If I use Tbird as the
client, it does (almost) everything I can do using Turnpike as the
client. The only constraint is a single sent folder rather than the
multiple ones I have now - but I suspect some clever rules within
Thunderbird might fix that. Drag & Drop among Turnpike folders works
just fine within TBird.
The thing that will probably finally put an end to my use of connect
will when ISP's limit outgoing mail to their own domain(s). Connect only
allows one SMTP server for sending. Currently BT (my ISP and Plusnet
before that), allow me to send mail for any of my personalities and
domains through their SMTP server. If they (or a future ISP) constrain
things to force me to use different SMTP servers for each domain, then I
will have to think again.
One advantage of Thunderbird is that it allows each account to have a
different SMTP sending server. So my current fallback will be to install
TBird on the 32bit machine and use TightVNC to access mail there.
--
Invalid
(as you might guess) multiple personalities within Turnpike, and sent
messages from the various personalities get filed by Turnpike in
different places.
>If you use Thunderbird or MS Outlook to reply, have you been able to
>save your outgoing email in the Filed Folder etc. within Turnpike
>Connect?
>
allow you to decide on an account basis where to put sent mail. You
could point it at Filed on Turnpike should you wish.
>Would I be correct in saying that using the TightVNC connection back to
>your 32bit win 10 machine, you can only connect as a Single User, i.e.
>multiple Workstations couldn't individually use TightVNC and connect to
>use Turnpike?
simultaneously, and Turnpike will allow you to open multiple instances.
I only have one user on Turnpike, so I have never tried using different
users in different instances. However what TightVNC provides is access
to the desktop of the 32bit machine, so all open VNC clients see
whatever is going on on the desktop - and Windows itself is inherently a
single user system. What you want would work if the users took it in
turns, they couldn't operate Turnpike simultaneously.
>
>Our ISP A&A use Roundcube as their Webmail Client, and I am now
>contemplating whether it would be possible to use Roundcube as a Email
>Client of Turnpike Connect, if it is a workable solution, then it will
>take away the problems of working in a 64bit environment, and still
>allow the drag and drop features, etc. that Turnpike v6.07 gives us
>when embedded in Widows Explorer.
>
>The main reason for asking all of these questions, is that we are
>interested regaining the speed of operation which is being hampered by
>our VM's running Turnpike, and also retaining the Multi-User feature of
>Turnpike Connect within a Small Home Office environment. We use
>Turnpike Neighbourhood and can see the four Users and their respective
>Mail Folders where permissions have been granted.
>
>Mark
replacement. It is surprisingly hard!! What I want is a mail server I
can run locally which will collect mail (and news) using POP3 from
multiple sources. File it in the database (according to configurable
rules) and make it available via an IMAP server to any authorised
client.
hMail looks like a possibility, but the learning curve seems steep. VPOP
Enterprise will probably also do what I want - but now we are talking
real money!
From what you describe, I would certainly consider using Thunderbird as
your mail client using Connect as an IMAP server. If I use Tbird as the
client, it does (almost) everything I can do using Turnpike as the
client. The only constraint is a single sent folder rather than the
multiple ones I have now - but I suspect some clever rules within
Thunderbird might fix that. Drag & Drop among Turnpike folders works
just fine within TBird.
The thing that will probably finally put an end to my use of connect
will when ISP's limit outgoing mail to their own domain(s). Connect only
allows one SMTP server for sending. Currently BT (my ISP and Plusnet
before that), allow me to send mail for any of my personalities and
domains through their SMTP server. If they (or a future ISP) constrain
things to force me to use different SMTP servers for each domain, then I
will have to think again.
One advantage of Thunderbird is that it allows each account to have a
different SMTP sending server. So my current fallback will be to install
TBird on the 32bit machine and use TightVNC to access mail there.
--
Invalid
news
Sep 12, 2019, 4:03:18 PM9/12/19
to
In message <+u+E96F5...@wisty.plus.com>, Invalid
Thank you for your reply, it sounds like we should persist with
Thunderbird as each Users Email Client to Turnpike Connect.
We can confirm that we can see all the Turnpike Folders including
Turnpike Neighbourhood within Thunderbird. However Thunderbird shows us
under the heading of Local Folders, it's own generic Deleted and Outbox
Folders, which I would like to replace with Turnpikes own versions.
Like you, we have been looking at possible replacements to Turnpike
Connect, but it's has some extremely good features that would cost a lot
of money to replicate, so we have stop looking, hence our questions on
Email Clients.
As I thought, TightVNC is ok for one User, but wouldn't work in a
Multiple User environment.
Like you I personally have nineteen different Personalities setup within
Turnpike, some are old but at least ten are used on a daily basis for
different purposes across three Domains (really six as we have both the
.co.uk and .uk versions of each).
Should you run into SMTP sending problems, you could always consider
moving to another ISP rather than giving up on Turnpike Connect....
As Turnpike Licence Owners, I don't believe we really know how lucky we
are in having such a powerful piece of Software that was written by
people who really knew what they were doing.
Mark
--
news
<ne...@wisty.plus.com.invalid> writes
>In message <P4YrioEU...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> writes
>>In message <6L0VU4Je...@wisty.plus.com>, Invalid
>><ne...@wisty.plus.com.invalid> writes
>>>In message <D2TIRiI3...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> writes
>>>
>>>I currently run Connect on a small (headless - no monitor, keyboard
>>>or mouse) 32bit win 10 machine that is on 7/24 (it also monitors
>>>other things). It runs Stunnel to cope with encryption and POPFile
>In message <P4YrioEU...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> writes
>>In message <6L0VU4Je...@wisty.plus.com>, Invalid
>><ne...@wisty.plus.com.invalid> writes
>>>In message <D2TIRiI3...@ex8.co.uk>, news <ne...@ex8.co.uk> writes
>>>
>>>I currently run Connect on a small (headless - no monitor, keyboard
>>>or mouse) 32bit win 10 machine that is on 7/24 (it also monitors
>>>other things). It runs Stunnel to cope with encryption and POPFile
>>>VM. This became more true since I switched to WIN10 in the VM.
>>>Virtualbox will not do seamless mode for a Win10 client, so I get the
>>>same effect using TightVNC. a) is also less resource intensive on the
>>>
>>>
>>>Virtualbox will not do seamless mode for a Win10 client, so I get the
>>>same effect using TightVNC. a) is also less resource intensive on the
>>>
>>>
Thunderbird as each Users Email Client to Turnpike Connect.
We can confirm that we can see all the Turnpike Folders including
Turnpike Neighbourhood within Thunderbird. However Thunderbird shows us
under the heading of Local Folders, it's own generic Deleted and Outbox
Folders, which I would like to replace with Turnpikes own versions.
Like you, we have been looking at possible replacements to Turnpike
Connect, but it's has some extremely good features that would cost a lot
of money to replicate, so we have stop looking, hence our questions on
Email Clients.
As I thought, TightVNC is ok for one User, but wouldn't work in a
Multiple User environment.
Like you I personally have nineteen different Personalities setup within
Turnpike, some are old but at least ten are used on a daily basis for
different purposes across three Domains (really six as we have both the
.co.uk and .uk versions of each).
Should you run into SMTP sending problems, you could always consider
moving to another ISP rather than giving up on Turnpike Connect....
As Turnpike Licence Owners, I don't believe we really know how lucky we
are in having such a powerful piece of Software that was written by
people who really knew what they were doing.
Mark
--
news
SilverE
Sep 12, 2019, 5:02:49 PM9/12/19
to
At 21:02:02 on Thu, 12 Sep 2019, news wrote in
<blT+VaI6...@ex8.co.uk>
<snip>
Sender: headers, so you would indeed be wise to look more towards TBird
--
SilverE
<blT+VaI6...@ex8.co.uk>
<snip>
>>From what you describe, I would certainly consider using Thunderbird
>>as your mail client using Connect as an IMAP server.
<snip>
>>as your mail client using Connect as an IMAP server.
>Like you I personally have nineteen different Personalities setup
>within Turnpike, some are old but at least ten are used on a daily
>basis for different purposes across three Domains (really six as we
>have both the .co.uk and .uk versions of each).
>
>
Outlook is quite awkward with multiple personalities, inserting unwanted
>within Turnpike, some are old but at least ten are used on a daily
>basis for different purposes across three Domains (really six as we
>have both the .co.uk and .uk versions of each).
>
>
Sender: headers, so you would indeed be wise to look more towards TBird
--
SilverE
SilverE
Sep 12, 2019, 5:17:50 PM9/12/19
to
At 07:27:37 on Thu, 12 Sep 2019, news wrote in
<cjrfUQAZ...@ex8.co.uk>
where the email is started", and I suspect not even that works for
TP/IMAP filing.
machine: but possibly somewhere odd in the Neighbourhood for your
multiuser system. But (as seen elsewhere) TBird will suit you better
anyway.
--
SilverE
<cjrfUQAZ...@ex8.co.uk>
>In message <2wrfdSBR...@inspace.screaming.net>, SilverE
><w...@localhost.invalid> writes
>>At 19:51:00 on Wed, 11 Sep 2019, news wrote in
>><P4YrioEU...@ex8.co.uk>
>>>If you use Thunderbird or MS Outlook to reply, have you been able to
>>>save your outgoing email in the Filed Folder etc. within Turnpike
>>>Connect?
>>
>>If I can reply on just this point wrt Outlook:
>>
>>Emails are saved in the Sent folder that Outlook creates, not TP's
>>Filed folder, but you can move them of course. That's for a
>>single-user system, it may look different if multi-user, and
>>permissions may be an issue.
>>
>SilverE, thank you for your reply re MS Outlook out going mail. From
>memory I believe that was what I experienced when I tried Outlook. I
>couldn't find a way to automatically re-direct the saving to the Filed
>Folder in Turnpike Connect.
Indeed: the only control that Outlook provides is to "save to the folder
><w...@localhost.invalid> writes
>>At 19:51:00 on Wed, 11 Sep 2019, news wrote in
>><P4YrioEU...@ex8.co.uk>
>>>If you use Thunderbird or MS Outlook to reply, have you been able to
>>>save your outgoing email in the Filed Folder etc. within Turnpike
>>>Connect?
>>
>>If I can reply on just this point wrt Outlook:
>>
>>Emails are saved in the Sent folder that Outlook creates, not TP's
>>Filed folder, but you can move them of course. That's for a
>>single-user system, it may look different if multi-user, and
>>permissions may be an issue.
>>
>SilverE, thank you for your reply re MS Outlook out going mail. From
>memory I believe that was what I experienced when I tried Outlook. I
>couldn't find a way to automatically re-direct the saving to the Filed
>Folder in Turnpike Connect.
where the email is started", and I suspect not even that works for
TP/IMAP filing.
>
>I believe Outlook's Sent Folder was being saved on the User's Machine,
>when we would prefer it being saved centrally within Turnpike Connect
>
I see it going into the TP mailbase so it wouldn't be on the user's
>I believe Outlook's Sent Folder was being saved on the User's Machine,
>when we would prefer it being saved centrally within Turnpike Connect
>
machine: but possibly somewhere odd in the Neighbourhood for your
multiuser system. But (as seen elsewhere) TBird will suit you better
anyway.
--
SilverE
Jim Crowther
Sep 12, 2019, 6:15:33 PM9/12/19
to
In demon.ip.support.turnpike, on Thu, 12 Sep 2019 21:02:02, news wrote:
>As Turnpike Licence Owners, I don't believe we really know how lucky we
>are in having such a powerful piece of Software that was written by
>people who really knew what they were doing.
^^^^
>As Turnpike Licence Owners, I don't believe we really know how lucky we
>are in having such a powerful piece of Software that was written by
>people who really knew what they were doing.
This in spades!
TP was so near to getting it 'all right' (IMAP client as well as
server). I bet some if not all that functionality is already within -
just not brought to the surface.
Hey-ho. What is done is done.
--
Jim Crowther
news
Sep 13, 2019, 3:27:28 AM9/13/19
to
In message <sRn1qRCv...@inspace.screaming.net>, SilverE
<w...@localhost.invalid> writes
Thank you for your reply. Just tried to write this within Thunderbird
acting as a Client of Turnpike Connect, but it failed with the message
"Newsgroups not supported".
It looks like I need to resolve that issue as well.
--
news
<w...@localhost.invalid> writes
acting as a Client of Turnpike Connect, but it failed with the message
"Newsgroups not supported".
It looks like I need to resolve that issue as well.
--
news
news
Sep 13, 2019, 3:27:28 AM9/13/19
to
In message <ph+023CI...@inspace.screaming.net>, SilverE
Thank you, I will experiment more with Thunderbird as a Client of
Turnpike Connect.
--
news
Turnpike Connect.
--
news
news
Sep 13, 2019, 3:47:30 AM9/13/19
to
In message <xXO88xCx...@nospam.at.my.choice.of.UID.invalid>, Jim
Crowther <Don't_bo...@blackhole.do-not-spam.me.uk> writes
Jim, thank you.
The remaining users/supporters of all things "Turnpike", (the "Diehards"
as I would like to call them), will continue to deal with the ever
increasing problems that other Software Writers cause in their pursuit
of what they see as "progress".
There will come a time that the "Diehards" will no longer be around to
continue their support of the Best Email Software ever written.
--
news
Crowther <Don't_bo...@blackhole.do-not-spam.me.uk> writes
The remaining users/supporters of all things "Turnpike", (the "Diehards"
as I would like to call them), will continue to deal with the ever
increasing problems that other Software Writers cause in their pursuit
of what they see as "progress".
There will come a time that the "Diehards" will no longer be around to
continue their support of the Best Email Software ever written.
--
news
Mark Undrill
Sep 13, 2019, 5:16:59 AM9/13/19
to
When I was responsible for a set-up like this, a few years ago, I found
that Turnpike Connect would happily run on a 64bit OS. It's only
Turnpike Explorer that requires a 32bit OS. I believe the problems with
Turnpike on more recent versions of Windows is due to a bug in the
Windows Explorer shell. Something that Turnpike Connect does not use.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Regards
>
>
--
Mark
> Hope this helps.
>
> Regards
>
>
--
J. P. Gilliver (John)
Sep 13, 2019, 9:08:23 AM9/13/19
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In message <+u+E96F5...@wisty.plus.com>, Invalid
<ne...@wisty.plus.com.invalid> writes:
[]
>The thing that will probably finally put an end to my use of connect
>will when ISP's limit outgoing mail to their own domain(s). Connect
>only allows one SMTP server for sending. Currently BT (my ISP and
>Plusnet before that), allow me to send mail for any of my personalities
>and domains through their SMTP server. If they (or a future ISP)
>constrain things to force me to use different SMTP servers for each
>domain, then I will have to think again.
>
>One advantage of Thunderbird is that it allows each account to have a
>different SMTP sending server. So my current fallback will be to
>install TBird on the 32bit machine and use TightVNC to access mail there.
>
>
>
It's probably worth looking into hosting suppliers that also offer mail
>will when ISP's limit outgoing mail to their own domain(s). Connect
>only allows one SMTP server for sending. Currently BT (my ISP and
>Plusnet before that), allow me to send mail for any of my personalities
>and domains through their SMTP server. If they (or a future ISP)
>constrain things to force me to use different SMTP servers for each
>domain, then I will have to think again.
>
>One advantage of Thunderbird is that it allows each account to have a
>different SMTP sending server. So my current fallback will be to
>install TBird on the 32bit machine and use TightVNC to access mail there.
>
>
>
handling (I think many, possibly most, do); I can't imagine they will
_all_ go to domain-only outgoing. Separate from ISPs.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
Don't hit the keys so hard, it hurts.
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
news
Sep 14, 2019, 10:13:34 AM9/14/19
to
In message <qlfmqa$29a$1...@dont-email.me>, Mark Undrill
<sp...@invalid.invalid> writes
a 64bit environment
Although we have successfully tried this ourselves, it was decided to
keep Turnpike Connect and an installation of Turnpike (the email client)
together in a 32bit environment, as we believe you still need to use
Turnpike to establish/manage Users and Workgroups etc. that reside
within Turnpike Connect.
I must admit that I do not know if this can be done with any other Email
Clients when connected to Turnpike Connect?
With regards to the MS Widows Explorer Bug, I believe that it was
introduced in the final release of Windows 7 64bit, but the previous
beta versions did allowed Turnpike to work correctly (as it does in a
32bit environment).
Wouldn't it be nice, if a far more knowledgeable person, could extracted
Windows Explorer (and it's dependencies) from a beta version Widows 7,
and tweak it so that it could be then used as a separate standalone
software into which Turnpike could be embedded.......
Regards Mark
--
news
<sp...@invalid.invalid> writes
>> I currently run Connect on a small (headless - no monitor, keyboard
>>or
>> mouse) 32bit win 10 machine that is on 7/24 (it also monitors other
>> things). It runs Stunnel to cope with encryption and POPFile to sort
>> out the spam and advertising mail from the useful stuff. Connect
>> collects and sorts mail via POP3 from five sources (My own domain
>> provider, Gmail, Outlook.com, BTmail and Plusnet) which I use for
>> various purposes and news from a couple of sources.
>> My main desktop, and a couple of tablets I use as clients, are all
>>64bit
>> Win10
>>
><snip>
>
>When I was responsible for a set-up like this, a few years ago, I found
>that Turnpike Connect would happily run on a 64bit OS. It's only
>Turnpike Explorer that requires a 32bit OS. I believe the problems with
>Turnpike on more recent versions of Windows is due to a bug in the
>Windows Explorer shell. Something that Turnpike Connect does not use.
Mark, thank you for confirming that Turnpike Connect will happily run in
>>or
>> mouse) 32bit win 10 machine that is on 7/24 (it also monitors other
>> things). It runs Stunnel to cope with encryption and POPFile to sort
>> out the spam and advertising mail from the useful stuff. Connect
>> collects and sorts mail via POP3 from five sources (My own domain
>> provider, Gmail, Outlook.com, BTmail and Plusnet) which I use for
>> various purposes and news from a couple of sources.
>> My main desktop, and a couple of tablets I use as clients, are all
>>64bit
>> Win10
>>
><snip>
>
>When I was responsible for a set-up like this, a few years ago, I found
>that Turnpike Connect would happily run on a 64bit OS. It's only
>Turnpike Explorer that requires a 32bit OS. I believe the problems with
>Turnpike on more recent versions of Windows is due to a bug in the
>Windows Explorer shell. Something that Turnpike Connect does not use.
a 64bit environment
Although we have successfully tried this ourselves, it was decided to
keep Turnpike Connect and an installation of Turnpike (the email client)
together in a 32bit environment, as we believe you still need to use
Turnpike to establish/manage Users and Workgroups etc. that reside
within Turnpike Connect.
I must admit that I do not know if this can be done with any other Email
Clients when connected to Turnpike Connect?
With regards to the MS Widows Explorer Bug, I believe that it was
introduced in the final release of Windows 7 64bit, but the previous
beta versions did allowed Turnpike to work correctly (as it does in a
32bit environment).
Wouldn't it be nice, if a far more knowledgeable person, could extracted
Windows Explorer (and it's dependencies) from a beta version Widows 7,
and tweak it so that it could be then used as a separate standalone
software into which Turnpike could be embedded.......
Regards Mark
--
news
David Rance
Sep 16, 2019, 4:12:38 AM9/16/19
to
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 15:04:33 news wrote:
>I must admit that I do not know if this can be done with any other
>Email Clients when connected to Turnpike Connect?
I know that Turnpike connect can act as a POP3 and IMAP server, but how
>I must admit that I do not know if this can be done with any other
>Email Clients when connected to Turnpike Connect?
does one configure another email client to connect to Connect? I've
tried this in the past but never succeeded in getting it to work. (Yes,
I've ticked the boxes in Connect to activate it!!)
David
--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
news
Sep 16, 2019, 10:44:24 AM9/16/19
to
In message <MuLTNDa6...@david.rance.org.uk>, David Rance
<david...@SPAMOFF.invalid> writes
If you open up the Turnpike User Manual (Help/Turnpike User Manual) and
scroll to page 92 you will obtain most of the info you need from a
Turnpike perspective.
You need to tick the appropriate Enable in the Email Transfer set up in
Connect, and turn on the User Log On screen and start using logon
passwords.
With the knowledge of where on your Network Turnpike Connect resides,
then in your new Email Client (i.e. Thunderbird or MS Outlook), you
navigate that software to Turnpike Connect and the User Profile you wish
to use.
This is a very basic "how to do it" as it is sometime ago that we
managed to do it, but not really used it yet as it still needs to be
fine tuned.
Regards Mark
--
news
<david...@SPAMOFF.invalid> writes
>On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 15:04:33 news wrote:
>
>>I must admit that I do not know if this can be done with any other
>>Email Clients when connected to Turnpike Connect?
>
>I know that Turnpike connect can act as a POP3 and IMAP server, but how
>does one configure another email client to connect to Connect? I've
>tried this in the past but never succeeded in getting it to work. (Yes,
>I've ticked the boxes in Connect to activate it!!)
>
>David
>
David, a very quick reply to your question.
>
>>I must admit that I do not know if this can be done with any other
>>Email Clients when connected to Turnpike Connect?
>
>I know that Turnpike connect can act as a POP3 and IMAP server, but how
>does one configure another email client to connect to Connect? I've
>tried this in the past but never succeeded in getting it to work. (Yes,
>I've ticked the boxes in Connect to activate it!!)
>
>David
>
If you open up the Turnpike User Manual (Help/Turnpike User Manual) and
scroll to page 92 you will obtain most of the info you need from a
Turnpike perspective.
You need to tick the appropriate Enable in the Email Transfer set up in
Connect, and turn on the User Log On screen and start using logon
passwords.
With the knowledge of where on your Network Turnpike Connect resides,
then in your new Email Client (i.e. Thunderbird or MS Outlook), you
navigate that software to Turnpike Connect and the User Profile you wish
to use.
This is a very basic "how to do it" as it is sometime ago that we
managed to do it, but not really used it yet as it still needs to be
fine tuned.
Regards Mark
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David Rance
Sep 16, 2019, 1:12:59 PM9/16/19
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John Hall
Sep 21, 2019, 3:49:38 PM9/21/19
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>I use b) occasionally, typically when I get E-mails from firms which
>Turnpike client declines to open (illegal character in Quoted printable
>- or words to that effect). My car insurer is the worst culprit!!
I remember we had a thread about that problem a few years ago, and found
>Turnpike client declines to open (illegal character in Quoted printable
>- or words to that effect). My car insurer is the worst culprit!!
a work-around. However I've forgotten what precisely it was. I think it
involved exporting the email, editing the faulty header(s) and then
reimporting it. If, like gmail, your email provider doesn't delete
downloaded emails immediately but sticks them in a "dustbin" folder to
be deleted later, or if you use Mirror (is it?) in TP, then assuming
there's a webmail option you can view the offending emails that way.
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John Hall
"If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come
sit next to me."
Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
David Rance
Sep 23, 2019, 12:58:43 PM9/23/19
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On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 20:41:02 John Hall wrote:
>In message <6L0VU4Je...@wisty.plus.com>, Invalid
><ne...@wisty.plus.com.invalid> writes
>>I use b) occasionally, typically when I get E-mails from firms which
>>Turnpike client declines to open (illegal character in Quoted
>>printable - or words to that effect). My car insurer is the worst
>>culprit!!
>
>I remember we had a thread about that problem a few years ago, and
>found a work-around. However I've forgotten what precisely it was. I
>think it involved exporting the email, editing the faulty header(s) and
>then reimporting it.
Quite correct , John. The offending line in the main header (and only
>In message <6L0VU4Je...@wisty.plus.com>, Invalid
><ne...@wisty.plus.com.invalid> writes
>>I use b) occasionally, typically when I get E-mails from firms which
>>Turnpike client declines to open (illegal character in Quoted
>>printable - or words to that effect). My car insurer is the worst
>>culprit!!
>
>I remember we had a thread about that problem a few years ago, and
>found a work-around. However I've forgotten what precisely it was. I
>think it involved exporting the email, editing the faulty header(s) and
>then reimporting it.
the header) started with:
Content-Transfer-Encoding:
Remove that line completely and the email will display correctly.
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