Messages bouncing at Demon
Tim Powys-Lybbe
had this experience?
The following is one that has just come from SmartGroups. Note that it
"has not been collected after 4294967295 days".
I have had another one, with message number 1997 not collected "after
4294967295 days". Same number of days. Was the world created then,
even?
Thoughts, anyone? (If anyone still subscribes to this newsgroup, of
course.)
Tim
________________________________________________________________________
- SmartGroups bounce message -
In message <1010740512.23...@smartgroups.com>
oregan...@smartgroups.com wrote:
> Hi! This is the ore...@smartgroups.com mailing list.
>
> I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
> at oregan...@smartgroups.com.
>
>
> Messages to you from the oregano mailing list seem to
> have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
> message I received.
>
> If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe.
> If the probe bounces I will set your mail delivery options
> to web only.
>
>
> I've kept a list of which messages from the oregano mailing list have
> bounced from your address.
>
> Copies of these messages may be in the archive.
>
> Here are the message numbers:
>
> 6686
>
> --- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
>
> Return-Path: <>
> Received: (qmail 10887 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2001 05:59:43 -0000
> Received: from finch-punt-12.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.36)
> by radium.smartgroups.com with SMTP; 30 Dec 2001 05:59:43 -0000
> Received: from root by finch-punt-12.mail.demon.net with local (Exim 2.12 #1)
> id 16KZ0G-0004Oe-00
> for oregano-return-6686-tim=southfrm.d...@smartgroups.com; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 05:59:24 +0000
> Subject: Mail delivery failure
> Message-Id: <E16KZ0G-...@finch-punt-12.mail.demon.net>
> From: Mail Delivery System <Mailer...@finch-punt-12.mail.demon.net>
> To: oregano-return-6686-tim=southfrm.d...@smartgroups.com
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 05:59:24 +0000
>
> This message was created automatically by mail delivery
> software. A message that you sent could not be delivered
> to all of its recipients.
>
> The following message, addressed to 't...@southfrm.demon.co.uk',
> failed because it has not been collected after 4294967295 days
>
> Here is a copy of the first part of the message, including
> all headers.
>
> ---- START OF RETURNED MESSAGE ----
> Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for t...@southfrm.demon.co.uk
> id 1009682958:10:19628:2; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 03:29:18 GMT
> Received: from [195.92.246.172] ([195.92.246.172]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net
> id aa1103254; 30 Dec 2001 3:29 GMT
> Received: (qmail 2466 invoked by alias); 30 Dec 2001 03:29:11 -0000
> X-Authentication-Warning: smtp1.ihug.co.nz: Host p22-max1.tim.ihug.co.nz [203.173.222.86] claimed to be armstron.ihug.co.nz
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:31:30 +1300 (BST)
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> MIME-Version: 1.0
> X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax?
> X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46]
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> Mailing-List: contact oregan...@smartgroups.com
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> On Sun 30 Dec, Mike Gilbert wrote:
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Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org
For a patchwork of bygones: http://powys.org
Stephen Parkin
<URL:mailto:t...@powys.org> wrote:
> It seems that Demon has been bouning some e-mail recently. Anyone else
> had this experience?
>
> The following is one that has just come from SmartGroups. Note that it
> "has not been collected after 4294967295 days".
>
> I have had another one, with message number 1997 not collected "after
> 4294967295 days". Same number of days. Was the world created then,
> even?
>
> Thoughts, anyone? (If anyone still subscribes to this newsgroup, of
> course.)
>
I received exactly the same message yesterday.
Stephen
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Stuart Painting
Tim Powys-Lybbe <t...@powys.org> wrote:
> It seems that Demon has been bouning some e-mail recently. Anyone else
> had this experience?
Yes it's been bouncing all over the place. I had a bounce warning
from the Messenger-L list yesterday, and if you wander over to
demon.service you'll see more than a few threads about mail problems
(if you can spot them inamongst the mountain of postings about poor
Usenet performance, natch).
stuart
John Purser
<nos...@wymondham.demon.invalid.co.uk> writes
<snip>
> Certainly there weren't computers
>around over 11 million years ago - I bet you worked it out too didn't you ;-)
Do you have evidence to support this statement?
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Barry Smith
Chris Walker <nos...@wymondham.demon.invalid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <AgNFmGAx...@jpurser.demon.co.uk>, John Purser
> <URL:mailto:spa...@jpurser.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <ant120938b49+gH=@wymondham.demon.co.uk>, Chris Walker
> > <nos...@wymondham.demon.invalid.co.uk> writes
> > <snip>
> > > Certainly there weren't computers
> > > around over 11 million years ago - I bet you worked it out too didn't you
> > > ;-)
> > Do you have evidence to support this statement?
>
> I would point you to the work of Charles Babbage as being the first
> 'computer' and the first electronic variant being created via Bletchley Park.
> Now are you suggesting otherwise?
Sorry for the delayed response. News postings can be a bit slow reaching
here - the outer edge of the galaxy in the Virgo cluster :-) [1]
You can't prove computers weren't around 11 million years ago, just as
you can't prove 'alien' life _doesn't_ exist.
OT - can ADSL be used with RISCOS ? or is it a PC/Mac only choice ATM ?
Barry
[1] actually I'd forgotten about the Demon groups. Only just resubscribed.
I tend to lurk more around csa*
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Barry Smith
Chris Walker <nos...@wymondham.demon.invalid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <6d1f7cf...@g4iat.demon.co.uk>, Barry Smith
> <URL:mailto:b...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> [snip 11 million years stuff]
> > OT - can ADSL be used with RISCOS ? or is it a PC/Mac only choice ATM ?
>
> I thought it was simply a question of where you lived in relation to the BT
> exchange and assumed you had a network card,
which I don't (ATM)
> but then I know little of ADSL.
Fair enough. I guess csa.apps/hardware/misc is the place to ask.
> More or less on topic. I'm having problems with Demon and finger.
Sorry. I can't help on that.
Barry
Bruce Goatly
Chris Walker <nos...@wymondham.demon.invalid.co.uk> wrote:
> More or less on topic. I'm having problems with Demon and finger. I'm using
> the Ant suite and it used to be that when I ran finger with the command
> -long wymon...@post.mail.demon.net it would return more or less
> straightaway with the results. Now I might have to run it four or more times
> before I see a reply. Anybody any ideas? Has anything changed at Demon to
> provoke the bounces and this sort of problem?
Demon seems to be running into the ground at the moment. I don't know
anything about the Ant suite, I'm afraid, but you could see whether Justin
Fletcher's JFinger (on http://www.movspclr.co.uk/) can help you. It works
fine for me (with Socketeer, etc.)
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Roger W Wylde
In message <ant2220471cb+gH=@wymondham.demon.co.uk>
Chris Walker <nos...@wymondham.demon.invalid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <ant211931313+gH=@wymondham.demon.co.uk>, Chris Walker
> <URL:mailto:nos...@wymondham.demon.invalid.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <354ccfc4a%ne...@goatly.co.uk>, Bruce Goatly
> > <URL:mailto:ha...@bit-bucket.capersoft.com> wrote:
> > > In message <ant201521f7f+gH=@wymondham.demon.co.uk>
> > > Chris Walker <nos...@wymondham.demon.invalid.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > More or less on topic. I'm having problems with Demon and finger. I'm
> > > > using the Ant suite and it used to be that when I ran finger with the
> > > > command -long wymon...@post.mail.demon.net it would return more or
> > > > less straightaway with the results. Now I might have to run it four or
> > > > more times before I see a reply. Anybody any ideas? Has anything
> > > > changed at Demon to provoke the bounces and this sort of problem?
> > >
> > > Demon seems to be running into the ground at the moment. I don't know
> > > anything about the Ant suite, I'm afraid, but you could see whether
> > > Justin Fletcher's JFinger (on http://www.movspclr.co.uk/) can help you.
> > > It works fine for me (with Socketeer, etc.)
> > >
> > I've just grabbed a copy after somebody else suggested it. I'll give it a
> > go next time I log on.
> >
> Replying to my own message but never mind.
>
> Having grabbed a copy of JFinger tried it alongside the Ant offering. It
> returned straightaway and of course, as you do, I thought it was an Ant
> problem but then when I re-ran it, it stalled just like the Ant version and
> so I can only conclude that it's another Demon problem.
>
Just noticed this thread.
I too am sufering this problem. I know my ISDN line to give me
no end of grief eg. I can't upload more than a few K before it
stalls. I don't know whether it's the router or my net card.
I was uncertain of whether the finger problem began when I installed
RISC OS Select.
Have you got anywhere with this problem?
Roger.
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