looking to apprentice as an Electrician

[ramsy]

"Hi, I am looking to apprentice as an Electrician... Could you help me
out?"

After my responses were being deleted on several forums, I decided to
place to Q&A here.

1) Voluntary-indentured apprenticeships waive most public-policy
protections, and indemnify contractor sponsors for their consideration
of your free Trade-school education.

2) In return, a host of OSHA violations, sexual abuse, wrongful
terminations, and exploits are litigated at State-administrative
hearings, effectively terminating the apprentice with no public record
or court hearing.

3) These cases are dismissed at State hearings, since lawyers are
unfamiliar with State administrative procedure, or otherwise refuse to
represent apprentices, unless it follows a clear racist or sexual-
assault precedent, with witness testimony (unlikely in the
construction trades).

Legal environment of Apprenticeships:

1) Some State constitutions, while prohibiting slavery and involuntary
servitude, expressly permit contracts for apprenticeship and indenture
if voluntarily entered into for valuable consideration. (See Alvins,
Freedom of Choice in Personal Service Occupations: Thirteenth
Amendment Limitations on Antidiscrimination Legislation (1964) 49
Cornell L.Q. 228, 230 (Alvins).)

2) Historic labor acts with Unions have created a system that keeps
legal jurisdiction internal between Union & member contractors. The
record shows training-center management and jobsite contractors may
dispense with indentured apprentices at will, and are largely immune
to public policy, in much the same way military courts martial and the
UCMJ is immune to public courts.

3) Apprenticeship working agreements are a list of cancellation
policies cover to cover, designed to allow the contractor-run training
committees and jobsite supervisors to justify the cost for each
student before proving them desirable.

4) Modern Unions are temp. agencies that supply labor on demand, and
punish workers first, before contractors are either fined or
accountable. Other real benefits for Union contractors include public-
works projects, awarded by union organizers serving on city-councils.
There are further group discounts on insurance, fixed-price estimating
schedules, and technical-procedure resources. Member contractors also
enjoy payroll services, all the good will advertising associated with
Union labor, prevailing wages, and an endless supply of bodies, ready
& willing to subside on State-unemployment in between projects.

5) It is true, most economies exploits labor, all employers are SOB's,
but the difference with Union contractors is they are supposed to be
our SOB. The argument is contractors can be watched more closely, but
this is no longer the case in my opinion.

6) Whether Union (IBEW) or Merit shop (WECA, ABC, IEC) these
indentured trade-schools may effectively cancel the State-administered
apprentice at will, tarnishing the student's livelihood longer than a
felony record.

You can "Be All You Can Be" in the Brotherhood of Unemployed Men
(B.U.M), or enjoy a much less hazardous alternative.

1) Trade-school training thru a public school curriculum --not an
indentured apprenticeship-- follows public policy, in co-ed
classrooms, providing a historically well adjusted coming of age for
many young people. After graduation in public school, Union Book #1
work preference is still available thru most local Unions within a
year, after outsiders from public schools, or travelers have been
organized in the Union.

2) Interdisciplinary campuses have a wider range of career placement
programs, industry job fairs, and fraternal/alumni relationships
structured to reciprocate employment between members. When the economy
fails your career goals --in public schools-- changing paths is a
simple matter, not so with a trade apprenticeship.

3) Lack of steady work hours, and waiting on the books tends to
increase as Union apprentices approach journeyman-wage scale. The
resulting State unemployment compensation is not adequate for most
mortgage or rents, and regular unemployment bears additional risks of
clinical depression in the long term. I'm my experience, this kind of
exploit is one of the worst ways young people can be adjusted to the
working world or society at large.

4) The contractor community are particular annoyed when Union
journeymen on unemployment become "trunk slammers" with vehicles that
can't be identified at jobsites, nor prosecuted for building-permit
violations. Further, the Unions have working agreements that prohibit
journeymen labor from perusing independent licensing. In any other
institution, individual tradesmen realizing they are more competent
than the employers who exploit them, have no barriers to start their
own licensed-contracting services.

This perspective may be unheard of, because it has regularly been
deleted on internet-trade forums by their moderators, or Union
organizers who fund the publishing business hosting the forum. If this
perspective is not deleted here, it likely reflects a host provider's
adherence to public policy, which is less obligated to censor for
private interests.

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