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Carole "Navarro" King

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ck...@my-deja.com

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Aug 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/26/00
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I'd like to open this discussion with you here, guys, because as I've
just joined the gang I haven't really seen what you've already talked
about when it comes to Carole and related-to-her stuff. The theme has
always intrigued me, and since I'm not a U.S. resident it's always been
hard to find factual info about that much controversial Carole period.
I'd like to read your comments on how much you think Carole work was
really harmed by her teaming-up with Hallman and McEntee's band, or if
there was no drawback at all to your mind, whichever. I'd like to
begin by saying that although Carole's output at that time is
considered by many as her "dark" period (and all of us have them!), I
really enjoy her 77/78 albums. Moreover, it was because of that
collaboration that I got to buy the 2 Navarro albums, and I still enjoy
them.
Now I don't know if I'm the only one who have that opinion. So, I'd
love to hear yours. However, let me make it clear here that I don't
LOVE Mark Hallman, I just think that their music is good, and I
especially like Carole's "Welcome Home" and Navarro's "Navarro" (1978).

Bye for now!!!

Alex


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ricky_t...@my-deja.com

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Aug 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/26/00
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Hi Alex,

I'm one of the CKheads who think Carole's music was NOT helped by
Navarro. They're the least talented musicians and background singers
she's ever worked with. And I think they knew it. When Mark Hallman was
interviewed during the "Simple Things" tour in 1977, he frankly said
that he couldn't understand why a world-class musician like Carole had
decided to work with Navarro. My guess is that Carole personally liked
these young guys and wanted to give them a break in the biz.

I think Charles Larkey and Danny Kootch (who came before Navarro), and
Rudy Guess et al.(who came after) are much more talented and versatile
than Hallman and McEntee.

I'm not saying that Navarro DESTROYED Carole's albums, just that they
didn't help. When Carole wanted a really professional sound during
the Navarro years, she imported better guitarists like Eric Johnson.

The funny thing is that Navarro played and sang better on their own two
albums than on Carole's. I haven't played their albums in years, but I
remember thinking they sounded tighter there. Plus their albums seem
better produced - sound cleaner and less cluttered - than "Simple
Things" and "Welcome Home."

In 1982, Mark Hallman was the opening act for Carole when she performed
in an open-air concert in Chicago. Navarro had long since ended, and
Mark treated the audience to about 7 "singer-songwriter" type songs.
They were OK, nothing special, I thought.

Welcome to the newsgroup!

'r'

ck...@my-deja.com

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Aug 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/26/00
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Hello, Ricky.

Well, first I must say thanks for the warm welcome, and second is that
isn't that wonderful we can share ideas about our diva, whether they're
on different sides or not?

Well, I think I agree with you that the band sounded much better on
their own than with Carole, and my opinion is that it was them who
actually benefited from any collaboration with Carole, not the other
way around. Anyway, I love "Welcome Home", "Simple Things" and "Touch
The Sky", in that order (although the latter isn't exactly
a "Navarro/King" album).

Bye for now!!!

king...@my-deja.com

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Aug 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/27/00
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I am NOT a fan of Navarro, she was certainly not helped musically by
their presence on her albums. These are not all great albums ("Simple
Things," "Welcome Home" etc.), but there is something special about them
and a very interesting part of her life and career. But I believe
Navarro were very amateurish and certainly may have contributed to the
music industry's lowered opinion of her during that period.


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