What Were Carole's Favorite Songs?
bob...@my-deja.com
favorite songs in that recent issue of Mojo Magazine that spotlighted
the favorite songs of the 20 best songwriters or something to that
affect. He can't recall the songs, though. Says they were pre-rock
era. Did anyone else read the article?
I once read in the same magazine that CK said "There Goes My Baby" was
one of the most influential songs on her songwriting craft (strings,
etc.)
Anyone? Anyone at All--
Bob
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bob...@my-deja.com wrote:
> A CaroleHead from London wrote me to tell me that CK listed her
> favorite songs in that recent issue of Mojo Magazine that spotlighted
> the favorite songs of the 20 best songwriters or something to that
> affect. He can't recall the songs, though. Says they were pre-rock
> era. Did anyone else read the article?
>
> I once read in the same magazine that CK said "There Goes My Baby" was
> one of the most influential songs on her songwriting craft (strings,
> etc.)
>
> Anyone? Anyone at All--
> Bob
If I have time, I'll look in libraries for past issues of that magazine.
I'd love to know what her favourite songs are.
'r'
Snap
Don H.
In article <8nettk$lfn$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
bob...@my-deja.com wrote:
> A CaroleHead from London wrote me to tell me that CK listed her
> favorite songs in that recent issue of Mojo Magazine that spotlighted
> the favorite songs of the 20 best songwriters or something to that
> affect. He can't recall the songs, though. Says they were pre-rock
> era. Did anyone else read the article?
>
> I once read in the same magazine that CK said "There Goes My Baby" was
> one of the most influential songs on her songwriting craft (strings,
> etc.)
>
> Anyone? Anyone at All--
> Bob
>
CKHeadMary
do want to take Laurence up on listing our own faves, I have honestly
been having a helluva time coming up with many rock era tunes that I
consider as good of the dozens and dozens I can think of by Cole
Porter, Rodgers and Hart, Irving Berlin, the other big guys . . .
What I think is that songwriting itself has become a lost art form.
The advent of rock and roll nudged performance to the fore--not that
only rock did this--and there's been hardly and looking back since. I
can think of dozens of great rock and roll records, but the songs
themselves, as songs, as testiments to a craft, as artifacts of a form
of creativity and some genius, seem to me to be lacking.
OH, I'm getting old? Well, that could be :)
But I love songwriters. I love writers, so I think what has always
turned me on about Carole King is that she, among her peers in rock, is
one of the great writers. She and she and Goffin have written a song
or two that can go head to head with some of the writers noted above.
Carole rocks and she writes. Not many others do, do they?
In article <8nk756$ogu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
king...@my-deja.com
Oh Gosh, Mare, are we becoming our (grand)parents? I hear what's comin'
out of the speakers these days and it all sounds the same. Boom-boom-
boom, hip-hop-hip-hop. Occasionally I can discern a great melody or an
interesting lyric, but I just can't dig most of today's sounds. Am I
getting old or is music getting worse?
Laurence
In article <8nkq5q$dti$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
jazzma...@my-deja.com
As one who is hanging on by a string to his thirtysomething years,
lemme answer your question: the music is getting worse.
In article <8nn56n$sgr$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
CKHeadMary
really even mean? i think, though, that there may be limits to a form,
and i am not so sure, really, that we've not hit that wall with the pop
song. what else can be done with it? how do you top george gershwin
or billy strayhorn or leiber and stoller, mann and weil, goffin and
king or lennon and mccartney? what can you do that they haven't done?
perhaps come up with an interesting lyric now and again, yes.
certainly the hooks will never run out . . . but the form is set, and i
just don't hear much now that doesn't harken back to things we've been
hearing for at least 30 years or even longer. i like/d hip hop and rap
precisely because it was new in the late 70s. i had never heard stuff
like that. it was inventive. that it's now been 23 years since
anything really revolutionary has come along probably doesn't mean that
pop is dead, but ya gotta wonder about its future to some extent. even
in that genre, within rap, who besides lauryn hill has created
something really unique and new in the last five years? i must be
overlooking something here, huh?
what i know is that for new ears, what sounds tired to me is not to
them. the stuff will keep on rocking, right? and those much younger
than i will rightfully rail against farts like me who claim it's all
been done.
CKHeadMary
true_friend
can you top mozart, bach, beethoven?
literature?
theater?
art?
is everything already said and done?
interesting sociological questions. or is it philosophy...
or is it just depression...
speeding time....
CKHeadMary
:)
actually, i'm not sure i see the connection between recycling,
permenance to form, and depression, per se.
personally, i do think pop music has a more inherently strictured form
than jazz and classical, and that this form does prevent it from having
as much potential for inventiveness. pop music is distinguished by
this more than literature, too, i think. certain generic forms repeat
themselves, so say my modernist leanings :) and this seems especially
so when those forms are creative ones bound in part by certain economic
systems.
damn, time to get back to school, eh?
In article <8np643$vli$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
slapp...@my-deja.com
looks the same, and I suppose says the same...I wouldn't know, though,
because I struggle to understand most of the lyrics. I want to hum a
melody when a song is over and be touched by its message...either fired
up or moved on or related to in some way. I decided two years ago that
35 is obviously OLD, because I found myself saying to my husband, "This
new music all sounds the same, and I can never understand the words
over the music."
Touche'
Mattburg
heard the song "The Lion Sleeps Tonight," she "instantly pronounced it,
'a motherf**ker.'"
Not sure if it is still a fave of hers, but it obviously made a big
impression on her. Probably not shocking for a 19 year old to use the
big 'mf'word, but surprising to hear that Carole used it especially back
in 1961!
More on "Lion...":
"Brian Wilson had to pull off the road when he first heard it, totally
overcome."
The article on the song is one of the most interesting and lengthy
articles I've ever read on just ONE song. I had no idea it had such a
great impact on so many musicians.
mattburg
In article <8nettk$lfn$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
bob...@my-deja.com wrote:
> A CaroleHead from London wrote me to tell me that CK listed her
> favorite songs in that recent issue of Mojo Magazine that spotlighted
> the favorite songs of the 20 best songwriters or something to that
> affect. He can't recall the songs, though. Says they were pre-rock
> era. Did anyone else read the article?
>
> I once read in the same magazine that CK said "There Goes My Baby" was
> one of the most influential songs on her songwriting craft (strings,
> etc.)
>
> Anyone? Anyone at All--
> Bob
>
CKHeadMary
talkin' more trash than just that at 19. :)
In article <8nq0d5$s5k$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
ricky_t...@my-deja.com
CKHeadMary <roh...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> ah, c'mon already, the girl is from brooklyn! she was probably
> talkin' more trash than just that at 19. :)
jeepers! neil sedaka was right!
bob...@my-deja.com
In article <8nqh5l$dsl$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
ck...@my-deja.com
I just couldn't agree more with you! You seem to have said precisely
what I wish I could have myself. Let them youths enjoy their stuff as
we just did, and still do, I hope. And let them also find treasures
like Carole so as not to let our flame go out!
Bye for now!!!