Asia: Thailand: Pattaya
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Date: 1 June 1996
PATTAYA - PUSSYLAND
When it comes to sex and surf, then Pattaya is most definitely the
premier
sex resort in Asia. It combines the best of the go-go bars of Bangkok
with
the open-air beach bars of the islands, and has more pussy per square
meter
than any other city I've ever visited.
There are several distinct advantages to visiting Pattaya as opposed to
Bangkok for the seeker of carnal pleasure. Firstly, Pattaya is a
relatively
small beach resort, which means that the need to travel in expensive
rip-off
taxi's is limited. Most of the go-go bars and open-air bars are within
easy
walking distance of the bulk of tourist-class hotels in South Pattaya.
Secondly, Pattaya is safer, as long as you stick to the tourist areas.
As
the town is so small, you're unlikely to easily get lost, which is a
real
possibility in sprawling Bangkok. There are fewer rip-off joints and
back-street scams evident, making for a more relaxed atmosphere.Thirdly,
it's cheaper than Bangkok, although not substantially so. Hotels are
about 20 - 30% cheaper, but drinks in the go-go bars are pricier, as are
the
bar fines in some go-go bars. However, all-in-all I had more fun in
Pattaya
than in Bangkok, and could have spent more time there, enjoying the
homily
atmosphere in some of the bars.
As far as pussy goes - this is Pussyland with a capital P ! Girls of all
shapes and sizes abound, and you can literally take your pick. Something
worth noting is that many girls prefer older men, as they tend to dote
on
their "girlfriend" and thus spend more money. What do you expect -
imagine
what you'd do if you could land drop-dead beautiful 18 year old girl
who'll
suck and fuck you as often as you asked - even though you're 52yrs old
and
ugly as hell? There's no shortage of younger guys though, as the US Navy
still calls here regularly. The sudden deluge of 5000 marines sure fucks
it
up for the rest of the guys looking for a lay, so when you phone ahead
from
Bangkok to make a hotel reservation, be sure to ask if the Marines are
coming!
The girls know that foreigners want them- badly, so they play games
constantly to maximise their desirablity and push up their price. They
know
that if you won't pay their price, some other sucker will. At the end of
the
day(or should I say night), your greatest success will be with girls who
actually like you for some reason. These girls will fuck you longer,
more
often and more enthusiastically than girls who are only doing it for the
money. If you stay long enough, sooner or later you'll find a "steady"
girlfriend who'll be happy with hotel accommodation and R 50 pocket
money
per day, if that.So, if you can't get laid in Pattaya on a daily basis,
then
you're probably a corpse or a monk.
GETTING THERE
Most tourists spend time in Bangkok before departing for Pattaya. For
more
info on Bangkok, check out the October 1995 issue of HUSTLER. The
easiest
way to get to Pattaya from your hotel in Bangkok is by air-con mini-bus,
which will collect you at your hotel and deliver you to your hotel in
Pattaya for about 150B(R25). The alternative of catching a public bus
from
Ekamai bus station is a shit option, as you will have to take a taxi to
and
from the bus station, which wipes out any saving.
HOTELS
There are literally hundreds of hotels in Pattaya, many in the 300 -
500B (R
50 -R85) price range. For this you get an air-conditioned room with a
double
bed, colour TV and stocked mini-bar. Although these hotels are by no
means
luxury, they're perfect for a "pussyman's" needs. There are several
luxury
resorts, but they're far away from the action, and are fussy about who
you
take back to your room. I would suggest one of the following hotels, as
they are very close to the go-go bars, eliminating the need to use
public
transport or taxi's:
WHITE ROSE HOTELS
115/9 & 10 M10 Pratumnak Rd, South Pattaya City
Ph 038 429 234 Fax 66 38 421 174
350 - 400B/day (R60-R70)
WHITE HOUSE HOTEL
Soi 13, Beach Road, South Pattaya City
Ph 038 426 222
500 - 600B/day (R85 -R100)
LEK HOTEL
Soi 13 Second Road, South Pattaya City
Ph 038 425 550
400 - 500B/day (R70 -R85)
GO-GO BARS - SOUTH PATTAYA
Go-go bars in Thailand all operate in the following manner. There is no
cover charge to enter the bar. Make absolutely sure that there is no
cover
charge - if there is, don't enter the bar - it's probably a rip-off. You
are
free to sit and watch the girls dance as long as you buy a drink, at a
cost
of 65 - 85B (R11-R15). If you want to chat up a girl and grope her
tender
young body, expect to buy her a "lady drink" for 85 - 95B (R14- R16). If
you
find a girl you desperately want to fuck, you will have to negotiate a
price
with her. If you want a blow-job, make sure she agrees to "smoke" as
part of
the price. In order to take her from the bar, you'll have to pay a
"bar-fine" of 400 - 500B (R70- R85) in addition to the 1000 -
2000B(R170-
R340)you pay her. Rates vary from girl to girl - the stunners obviously
want
more. Hit the bars early, from 8pm, if you want a quality bar-girl, as
the
hottest girls are snapped up by 10pm. Always offer 500 - 800B (R85-
R140)
for "short-time" and settle for 1000B(R170). Many bar-girls won't spend
the
entire night - if they will, expect to pay 1500 - 2000B(R260-R340) plus
the
bar fine.
SUPER BABY *****
By far one of the best bars in Pattaya, and extremely popular for
obvious
reasons. As the name suggests, there are loads of pretty young girls
with
stunning bodies dancing topless at any given time. Ages seem to range
from
18 - 22yrs, although it's difficult to tell with Asian women, as they
tend
to look younger than their age. If you're into young firm tits and tight
little asses, then this will be heaven -on- earth for you. Beers cost
85B(R14), and lady drinks 95B(R16). The bar fine is 500B. (R85) Remember
to
go early as all the best girls will be bar-fined by 10pm.
HAPPY BAR-A-GO-GO****
Extremely popular with ex-patriates, this bar features regular lesbian
shows, which are really hot. The girls are very friendly, and pretty
raunchy. Some girls dance topless, and get more daring as the night
wears
on. Drinks were 75B(R13) and lady drinks 85B. (R14) Bar fine was
400B(R70).but went up when the marines were in town.
CALIGULA PALACE ***
Spacious bar with a nice selection of girls and friendly management.
Lesbian
shows on a circular bed in the middle of the stage each night. Some
topless
girls. Beers 85B (R14)& lady drinks 90B. Bar fine 500B(R85).
CHAMPION***
One of the cheapest bars in Pattaya, with drinks at 55B(R9.50). Catch
their
happy hours with Carlsberg draught at 35B(R6). Good value, with wild
girls,
many of them topless. A few lookers make the visit worthwhile.
Short-time
rooms available on the premises if required. No great pressure from
girls,
with 1000B(R170) the going rate for short-time. I met Son there, and
took
the accompanying pics of her after an incredible blowjob followed by an
extended fuck.,all for 1400B(R240)
CAROUSEL **
True to its name, this bar features a revolving stage on which the girls
perform, giving patron's a chance to see all the talent on offer from
all
angles. There were a few nice girls there during my visit, but several
plumpers ruined the impact - unless you enjoy fucking fat chicks. Bar
fine
is 500B(R85), lady drinks 95B(R16) and girls 800B(R140) for short time.
MARILYN **
Although I can't say I was very impressed during my visits to this club,
regulars told me that the girls were very friendly here. That could be
because they're less attractive than the girls at other bars. Maybe
you'll
get lucky!
NICE AS ICE **
This bar is a real dive, and only earns its rating because of its unique
service. Believe it or not - you actually get a blowjob here while you
drink
your beer, for only 250B(R40). Patrons sit at a wrap-around bar cubicle,
while unattractive bargirls give them a really good blowjob under the
bar.
Worth a visit if only out of curiousity!
RED FOX *
Disgusting rip-off bar. If watching fat, ugly whores who have mothered a
litter of kids pull razor blades out of their "uitgerekte" pussies turns
you
on, go for it. Otherwise, avoid it like the plague.
THE BEST OF THE REST
Red Light Special
1001 A-go-go
Blackout
Classroom
Green Light
MARINE BAR DISCO
This was my favourite place during my stay in Pattaya. Once you've
scoped
all the go-go bars - hit the Marine Disco. It's the meeting place for
the
freelance girls of Pattaya, as well as the bargirls once the bars have
closed at around 3am. There's no entry fee, but the drinks run at a
pricey
90 - 100B(R15-R17) per drink, so drink slowly. Don't be harrassed by the
many waiters who will shine a flashlight at your almost empty glass and
look
at you enquiringly - wave them away!
The best time to go the Marine is past midnight. Don't arrive too late,
or
you'll miss the best of the freelance girls. The girls you meet here
make
their own price - and of course there's no bar fine - so costs are a lot
lower. An added plus is that if the girl likes you, she'll stay the
entire
night, and maybe the next day as well! The first night I visited there,
I
met an 18 year old girl, Hun, who settled for 800B(R140) for the night.
She
left at 2am the following day, after a blowjob and two steamy sex
sessions.
(See her pic.)
The following night I landed the hottest girl in the joint- perfect
body,
with firm tits and a delicious ass. Nok was 19 yrs old, and was very
friendly and chatty, given the limitations of her English. She agreed to
1000B (R170) for three hours, but ended up leaving at 1 pm the following
day. She had those luscious, full "blow-job" lips which were pressed
into
service on more than one occasion.
I'd say that the Marine Bar is a place to find a girl if you want to
spent
an entire night with a beautiful Thai girl. I highly recommend it. Feast
your eyes on the following photo's of girls who are regulars at the
bar.
OUTDOOR BARS
There are literally hundreds of outdoor bars in Pattaya - far too many
to
list here. These bars are more popular with guys with a lot of time on
their
hands.Costs are lower than in go-go bars, as the girls don't dance or
expose
themselves. Drinks cost around 40-50B(R7-R8.50), and the bar fine is 150
-
200B(R25-R35). Girls will try for 1000B, (R170) but can be talked down
to
500 -700B(R85-R120), depending on how hot the girl is. Quality varies
dramatically - be warned that most of these girls don't have the bodies
to
dance topless in a g-string. Drift around until you spot a really nice
girl
- if she doesn't spot you first. Ignore the calls of "welcome, handsome
man"
if not made by a girl you'd like to fuck. Only sit down for a drink with
a
potential dreamgirl.
The atmosphere at these bars is pretty laidback, with many patrons
playing
bar games with the girls. Most of the girls are less sophisticated than
their go-go bar counterparts, but can be a lot more friendly. It is,
however, a lot more time-consuming to hang out at these bars, unless
you're
with friends and are just after a cheap drink. Single traveller's with
limited time who are looking for hot pussy are better off in the go-go
bars
or the Marine Disco.
During my trip I canvassed opinions from regulars, who visit Thailand
each
year in search of the perfect fuck. Most agreed that they preferred
Pattaya
to Bangkok, as they could relax a lot more in the laidback environment
of
the beach resort, while enjoying the attention of thousands of beautiful
young Thai women. I noted during my four day stopover in Bangkok that
costs
have risen there since my visit. I would thus suggest spending at least
two
days in Pattaya for every day spent in Bangkok.
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By the way, Patpong is named after Mr. Patpong who owns the two
streets surrounding it.
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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 97 00:01:37 EST
Subject: Pattaya Action
Just thought I'd send you a note about one experience on a recent
trip to Pattaya.
I've lived in South East Asia for 7 of the last 10 years, and Thailand
is my absolute favorite place. (Of course it's because of the
girls!!!) While I have been to Pattay probably a hundred times over
th years I never had a street encounter like this before.
I had rented a motorcycle for a few days and was planning on spending
the afternoon on the beach in Jomtien, just soaking up rays an
relaxing. My dick was gettin g a little sore from all the 'attention'
it was getting from the LBFMs! While headding out from my hotel on
soi post office I passed an absolutely stunningly beautiful creature.
My first though was that 'she' may have been a lady-boy. I was soooo
glad to be wrong about this. She smiled at me, and I stopped the
bike. I asked her name, she said it was Nittaya. I told here I was
going to the beach in Jomtien and asked her if she wanted to go. She
gave me a HUGE smile and just jumped on the back of my bike. We made
the short trip over the hill to the beach. She held on by alternately
massaging my chest and rubbing my cock through my swim trunks. Hoo
Yah, sore or not, my cock jumped to attention and started drooling at
the thought of being dipped into this beautiful girl. We first
stopped at a beachside bar/restaurant and had some fried rice and tom
yam, two beers and then hit the beach. I had an extra large beach
towel and I laid it out. I took of my shirt and she took off her top
and shorts and laid down in just her G-string. I started rubbing oil
on her back and ass and before I knew it she had rolled over and
pulled my cock through the side of my shorts and shoved it in her
pussy. We fucked for just a few minutes before I shot my load. All
of this right there on the beach! I had NEVER heard of this type of
public sex with a Thai girl before. I found out she worked in a bar
in Patong,Phuket and had just moved to pattaya and didn't yet find a
bar to work in. To make a long story short, I spent the next two
weeks with this lovely, and paid here quite well for it. She was
nice, sweet, gorgeous, and most importantly, an incredibly hot fuck!
Thanks Nittaya, I can't wait to get back there to see her again.
Happy hunting, Stryker.
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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:09:31, -0500
Subject: my trip to thailand
feel free to publish this
I have just returned from 2 weeks in thailand I went directly from
the airport to pattaya beach cost me 1800 b what a fucking rip off
still only a hunderd but it only cost me 500 return and for 1800 the
s.o.b taxi driver made me pay 30b toll for the highway but it was all
worth it once i got there.
Stayed at the white rose#1 best deal for miles 400b a night clean
rooms air con and a tv (only 5 channels).was there not 45min and had a
angel blade woman and a big bag of weed(not thai stick but still
excellent) the women are fantastic most are under 4 foot fuck all.a
few things I would like to mention while they are still fresh on my
mind I have heard about how good looking the lady boys or kateui's are
but it is downright fucking scary i mean wow god himself could not
make a body that good and by the looks of it some of them have even
had there A.A taken out BELIEVE ME KEEP YOUR FUCKING EYES OPEN!!! and
man are they ever forward me and my pal wandered into that part of town
within minutes and before i noticed you know one had its top down and
rubbing it's rock hard tit's into my back needless to say when i found
out i was gone. by the way that part of town is on pattaya beach road
down by all the sea food resteraunts nuff said about that.
now for a few realities which i hope you print. first i read in this
guide about a bar called nice as ice where you get b.J's under the bar
BULLSHIT!!! first the name is nice with ice and wadda ya know no
blowjobs. second I dont't know what kind of trench coat wearing zit
faced child molesting desperate loser wrote in that it was 2000b for a
girl no fucking way eaven including bar fine of 400b bar fine i never
paid more that1400b all night with absolute goddess's and if you wait
till 3 or 4 am you won't pay more than 6, but bar fines are bs. a great
bar to go to I don't remember the name but you can't miss it an
pattaya beach road just look for a bar at the bottom of the big grean
esclator going to an upstairs bar something to do with golf 18th hole
or nineth hole something like that anyways don't go upstairs it's
shit stay downstairs a good bar huge millions of beauty queens and no
bar fine plus they have a big screen tv the bar is also directly
across from the marine disco wow what a place you could write a book
as thick as the bible and still not describe it all your bes bet for
fun is go to the bar downstairs and watch thai boxing from 9:30 till
12:30 then go upstairs to the disco (one last tip if you go to watch
thai boxing keep a pocket full of 20'sb after each fight the fighters
come around tip tip) any ways that's enough for now i have ton's more
of usefull information but if you don't want it i won't waste
annyone's time if you want the full story post this or e mail me and
ask for the rest I will be more than happy to share.
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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 23:28:52, -0500
day 1: at the airport i pay 1800b for a air con mini bus to pattaya
beach what a rip off still only a hundred cdn.arrive in pattaya 4:00
pm hotter than hell, check into the white rose #1(thanks for the
tip)400b a night had air con cleen room tv nice location.shower shave
and hit the town head down the first street to the right of the hotel,
takes me past 3 or 4 resteraunts and ends with a great bar across
the road from thai boxing down stairs and the marine disco upstairs
but forget that for now the bar at the end of the road (you can't
miss it right beside it is a bid green esclator.this bar is great no
bar fine, beuitfull wemen and good movies on the big screen what a
great place to waste a day,this was my first stop i order a beer and
watch independence day within 5 minits i am approached by a young man
with cigerets in his hand he comes up to me and says marlboro i shake
my head he turns to walk away i motion for him to come back,he looks
at me and says what you want,I draw him in closer and make the
international sign for toke toke.he smiles at me and says 500b i be
back 1hr i say N.F.W he says no no i come back i say forget it,while
this was happenning I guess one of the bar girls saw what was
happening comes over puts her hand on my shoulder and shakes his hand
with 1000b and says in broken english he my friend and off he goes I
start to chat it up with the girl her name is A, she says she is 22
and is drop dead georgous we talk and watch the movie, about 25min
later the man comes back and shakes my hand and slips three bags of
pot into my pocket I quickly finish my singha and pay for the drinks ,
2 beers and a black russian 200b,the woman pats my leg and says i
like very much I say me' the pot or, and i motion to my crotch she
just laughs and says lets go.we get back to my room and i inspect her
then my score am happy with both.from minit one she is all over me we
shower together and copulate twice. By 9:30 I am ready to crash she
says 1600 I give her 1800 and a joint and say thank you. fall asleap.
day 2 i wake up at 4:00 am and go out to the front of the hotel to
have a smoke and check out my surroundings about 2min later this
beautiful woman comes up and askes me for a light very quickly i
realize that she is a deaf mute'but oh so good looking I invite her
back to my room, what the hell they don't speak english anyway I
spend the rest of the day with her and have a great time but must bid
her farewell as she must go with her brother to visit family in Chang
Mai.I go to the Paradise restaurant for a very good pepper steak the
food was good but i was unhappy with the view as it almost directly
across from a all male go go bar so i must be content with looking at
my food.the meal +2 beers was 160b( 7 buck's for all you fellow
Canucks). allmost directly at the bottom of that road is the board
walk going out over the water and and beside that is the luckey beer
bars (about 15 different bar stations all around a thai boxing ring)
I spent most of my vacation at bar #6 from 9:30 till 12:30 it
provided a great view of the street and the ring'and just far enough
from the ring that i did not have to tip every fighter.that night i
ended up sitting on a stool inside the bar area with two scots and 5
bar girls smokin dubes and drinkin beer.in my opinion the best seat
in the house is inside the bar right in the center I made every girl
that went past give me a kiss.I ended up going with 2 girls PU and N
to the marine disco after the bar closed and got back to the hotel
about 4 am we smoked about 4 dubes and all took a shower togher(well
not really a shower a shower head and a drain ended up soaking thre
toilet paper which i regretted in the morning) and for the next hour
and a half alternated between me and a having sex with n while pu
watched and having sex with pu while n watched to all three of us
having sex and then talk about having your cake and eating it too I
watched the 2 of them 69 each other.I thought these 2 beautiful
women were keepers and then they did it they pulled out the old
glass dick and proceded to smoke heroin or crack or speed which i
dont know, all i know is that it was a hard drug and i only advocate
pot,My dreams were shattered I had to kick them out right then and
there because if there is one thing for sure a junkie will rob you
fucking blind.I didn't want any trouble so I offered them 1000b a
piece which made them happy and sent them on there way
day 3:I awoke quite unexpectedly at around 7:00AM and made a mad dash
to the bathroom and spent the remainder of my day waiting for the
Imodium tablets to kick in while doing everyone's favorite dance the
THAI two step (not moving more than two steps from the toilet).I must
have gotten it from the raw crab in the thai salad,if you go to
thailand I highly recomend the thai salad I also recommend that you
ask that the seafood be left out and that is it for day three.
day 4thru 10:
hooked up with this great british bloke on the beach and basically
lounged on the beach all day listineng to my Ghetto blaster, watched
thai boxing till 12:30 and then off to the marine disco to fuck
everything that moved,no shit when went in we were instantly swarmed
by dozens of honeys,I took a different one each night always 700b
long time,they were all beautiful but i was too absorbed in the
experience to remember all the details it's all a blur of hot sun
good food good beer(for all you canadians Singha is almost a exact
copy of labatt 50)great pot and Mind blowing sex.Any one who has been
there will know exactly what I am talking about.
and i will save the last three days for tomorrow these were by far
the most unbelievable of all the strangest three days of my life stay
tuned don't change that channel
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Subject: Short-time bars in Pattaya
Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:41:19 GMT
I'm trying to compile a list of short-time bars in Pattaya. The final
list will be uploaded to the world sex guide
(http://www.paranoia.com/faq/prostitution/Thailand.html)
A short-time bar is a kind of combined brothel/bar where one can have
paid sex on the spot.
If you have any experiences you'd like to share please reply - post or
mail. I will only be considering Pattaya - but if anybody have
interests in other places feel free to start a new thread on that.
Here is a couple for starters - just to give you an idea:
Name: Billion Bar
Addr: Soi Pattayaland 1
Price: 300 Baht
Desc: A small bar with usually 4-6 girls. Youngish, i.e. 20-25 years
old, no real stunners, a few give good blowjobs.
Name: Nice With Ice (used to be called No Hands Bar)
Addr: Soi Postoffice
Price: 500 Baht
Desc: Bar where you get a blowjob while sitting at the bar. The bar
has kinda "cutouts" with openings from the inside of the bar. A very
strange experience - probably a hit for exhibitionists. Girls oldish,
i.e. 30+ years, few decent - some outright ugly.
PS. This is a serious project. Flames >/dev/null. Your anonymity is
guaranteed.
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Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 17:48:55 +0700
Here is another message form the Traveller.
This message is about Pattya!
If u want a good and cheap Hotel, u have to go to the DIANA INN!
If u want to have a girl, you can go everywhere.
Well, the best girls u meet in SOUTH PATTAYA or in SOI 2.
Ugly girls are mostly in some small streets, in GoGo bars, that are not
layed in the Center.
So if u want good girls you best look for the following bars:
Drop In A GoGo ++++
I have met a very good girl called Toon there. She was 19. If u look as
well as I do (I am 20 and good looking) maybe she stays with you some
days.
If u really meet her, tell her some Greetings form Stefan. She is very
sexy! She will remember me! The other girls are also ok.
Champion +++
This bar is also ok. You can get a short time for 1000 Bath (Bar fine,
and
Room rent included). This is very cheap. But the girls are mostly also
poor. I heve just seen two real beauties. I fucked one of them (but the
whole night for 1300 B) .
Classroom +++
Also a very good one! nice girls and wild.
Classroom 2 (Soi2)+++
The same like Classroom 1!
Happy bar a gogo++
The girls are all good looking, but SLEEPY! There where about 20 men
inide
and no man had a girl. You have to invite her for a drink, otherwise,
she
won't come to your table. And I think, that this one is really
expensive!
Marylin
A very, very POOR one! Belive me and don' t go there!
You have to check out the others. I have been to many, but i don' t
remember their names. Some are really good, and some are poor!
And something more that i can beware you for. MASSAGE is very expensive!
Well, the advance is, that you can "really" choose your girl. BUT u have
to
pay 1500 for one and a half hour! Belive me and don"t go there if u
don't
ant to become poor!These girls won' t stay the whole night with you
(expect
you pay 3500 B).
If u like Boys (I don't) there is one street in Pattaya, where u can get
it, but i dond remember the name. But if you telle a Taxidriver " Hey
you,
i want boys bum bum!" he will frequently bring you there. I did not
Check
out one of those Go Go bars!
Don't pay more than 10 B for a Taxi. They try to rip you off, when they
want 40 or 20 B.
You will find lots of outdoor bars there. Well, you will have to check
them
out. The girls that are working ther are mostly underage, so that they
can't work in a go go bar. Many of the older ones working ther are HIV
positive! So be caerful an keep Your fucking eyes open! Don't risk your
life for one fuck!
One more word to the Go Go bars. The girls inside are mostly form 18 to
28
years old. If you are older than 40 you mostly will get one of the older
ones. The girls form 18 to 20 only go with men that are 30 or younger.
Be
gentel to the girls. They don't seem to be shy in the bar, but outside
they
are! They mostly have a hard life, so don't make it much harder for
them.
Keep your Hands off them in public, if they don't want!!
When you go to your room with the girl, there are some rules.
Thais are Buddhists (me too). So while entering the room you should take
off your shoes. The girl will also do that.
You have to take a shower before you have sex. The girl also thaes a
shower
before. Sometimes you shower together. Thai girls are very shy and
belive
that teir nakedness is ugly. So you should be naked only, when the light
is
off. Don"t show them your penis to recognize how long or how good it is!
They know that you have a penis!
some girls don't expect, that you use a condom, but you should better do
so! The very shy girls expect, that you put it over on your own, some
others do it for you!
Well, thats all i can say to Pattaya.
Next time i will write about Vietnam and Cambodia.
If u stopped in Pattaya and want to go to cambodia (it is save in Phnom
Penh) you better don't take informations of Thais. They don't really
like
cambodians. If u need some information about it, ask some outdoor bar
owners (mostly europeans, that speak good english). They are informed
about
the political situation ther and every other country in South east asia.
Sorry for my bad English, but I am German. Well, enjoy yourself in
Pattaya
and have a good time there.
The Traveller
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Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 20:44:33 +0200
Subject: Actual Price List of Girls in Pattaya
Hi !
I just came back from Pattaya ! (1 week) ...
The actual prices for girls are :
Shorttime : 300 Baht
One Day/Night : 500 Baht
One Day/Night : 1000 Baht (if you take the girl from a gogo bar)
Bar fine is about 400 Baht ....
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:32:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Update on Thailand
Phattya:
The only reason there was to go was the Marine Bar and Disco. Its now
closed
as is the Baby A-Go Go.
I noticed lots of changes in Phattya. Its all built up and has no charm
what-so-ever. Noticed lots of Russian Signs. Phattya seems to be the
favorite
destination for all the Euro-Trash and the gays. Most old fags and
queens.
The bars were empty of foreign tourists and the bar girls out numbered
the
patrons 6-1. Impossible to get a quiet drink without six girls trying to
hit
on you. Also, hope you don't hit Phattya when the fleet is in. God, what
a
zoo.
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 16:07:43 EST
Subject: Survival Guide for Pattaya, Thailand
As an expatriate (Farang) living and working in Thailand for several
years. I
have seen the good, the bad and the ugliness of prostitutes in action.
This
article is to advise and warn future visitors what goes on in Pattaya
and
other whorehouse destinations, such as in Bangkok (Patpong, Soi Cowboy
and
Nana Plaza), Phuket (Patong), and Pattaya (Soi 2,8,9,12-16,Naklua).
Since the
largest (>700 bars) and the best including the biggest and the cheapest
whorehouses is located in Pattaya and the concepts are the same as other
whorehouse destinations that caters to Farangs (foreigners), I will
focus on
Pattaya.
The City of Pattaya was created 30+ years ago by American GIs
for
Rest and Recreation (R&R) Center for soldiers during the Vietnam War.
Its
famous for GO-GO bars, whorehouses, massage parlors, girls, scams,
pimps, and
the tricks. Nowadays you still have the same things but generally,
today's
Pattaya afterdark is much tamer than the past. The "Sin City" is alive
and
well with much of their raucous nightlife and they still attract a large
male
crowd day in and day out. However, if you have no with to frequent any
of the
bars and massage parlors, there are other attractions, such as fine
seafood
restaurants, cabarets, water sports, Thai boxing, bowling, American
movies,
shopping, golfing, fishing, beaches, etc.
Nonetheless, the main attraction why most Farangs comes to
Thailand
and Pattaya is because of SEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX trade. It has an
international
reputation for good (and dangerous), cheap sex. Nowadays, most of the
Farangs
are Britons and Germans (tourists), few Americans except when the US
Navy
(1,000-10,000 men/fleet) shows up for annual R&R to "relieve themselves"
for
about a week, several times a year. Rest are composed of other West
Europeans,
Australians, and Arabs. Few East Europeans (mostly mafia and whores).
Neighboring Asians comes in group tours for entertainment that caters t
Asians
only and generally do not frequent beer bar whorehouses. Whorehouses in
Thailand is not limited to bars and body massage parlors, but includes
coffee
houses, discos, clubs, karaokes, etc.
Last, but far from the least, and most important, there's
always lot
of talk about dangers, annoyances, safety in Pattaya and Thailand. But
before
we go into that, you have to realize some important facts and understand
some
general information about the girls who goes to whorehouses to work.
On an average, Thais make about US$1000 a year (about 38,000
baht/year). Generally, they work 8-10 hours a day for 28 days a months a
year,
and may take 1-2 weeks off per year. For examples in Pattaya. Maids in
your
hotel makes 2500-3000 baht/month, construction workers 3000-3500
baht/month,
and cashiers 2000-2500 baht/month.
Tipping is not a normal practice, required or customary in
Thailand.
However, some Farangs give 0-20 baht tip after their meals or drinks.
Bargaining is mandatory in almost all situations in Thailand. Thais
think
that all Farangs are rich and they always inflate the prices. Never
accept the
first asking price, take 1/2 to 3/5 the asking price. More Thai you can
speak,
cheaper it gets. Bargaining is a normal part of Thais' commercial life.
If you
don't bargain, They think you're stupid. So keep cool and maintain a
sense of
humor. If you agreed on a price, you are morally obligated to pay that
price.
Majority of girls working is the business is from the families
of
peasants and farmers. You also see Cambodians, Laotians, Burmese, and
Vietnamese. They make less than US $400 a year from their home villages.
Small
amounts of girls (sluts) are from low to moderate income families but
they are
too lazy to work and loves to make easy MONEY. You also see girls from
Bangkok
and local towns free-lancing to supplement their income, which is much,
much
higher than their day jobs. Some Euroasians, children of former
prostitutes
frequent the business. Few East Europeans offer their services
illegally.
The reason why these girls comes to Pattaya to work as
prostitutes
is due to MONEY. They love MONEY and makes enormous sums of MONEY
selling
their bodies (for Thai standards). Current cost for a short-time (having
sex
at your hotel) is around 500 baht, and long-time (sex and sleeping
overnight)
is between 500-1000 baht, all depends on your bargaining skills. You
also have
to pay barfine (150-200 baht), if they work in a bar. If they
free-lance, no
barfine. Barfine is a way that bar owners gets the piece of the pie
(like a
pimp). 500 baht is equivalent to 5 full work days (40-50 hours/work). In
GO-GO
bars, they charge 25-50% higher on drinks, girls and barfines. In all
Thai
whorehouses, they only charge 1/4 to 1/2 the Farang prices.
The base salary for typical girls in beer bar whorehouse is
1700-2000 baht a month, plus if they come to work on time, 6 or 7 PM,
they
split the tip MONEY (20-100 baht per girl per night, if they don't have
Farang
for the night), plus any tips they might get directly from you, plus if
you
buy them a lady-drink, they get 20-40 baht per drink, plus 30-50 baht of
barfine per short-time(s)/long-time. Plus short-time(s)/long-time per
night.
Bars usually close around 3 AM, then they free-lance at Marine Discos
(#1&2)
and Lucky Star bars. Some girls like to get 1-2 short-times per night,
then
they go for that long-time to maximize their income. Not bad for a girl
in a
country where average honest person only makes 100 baht per day working
8-10
hours a day.
Special attention you need to beware on small percentage of
free-
lance whores is that it can be very dangerous or even deadly. These
whores are
known to drug your drinks, food, and their bodies to rob you of your
MONEY,
passport, and other valuables. Many Farangs have died in the past from
being
overdosed. These whores usually do their scams/tricks in South Pattaya,
in and
around Marine Discos (#1&2) and Lucky Star bars (Soi 14-16)., but they
are not
limited to these areas. It can happen in anywhere, anyplace in Pattaya
and
Thailand. Since they don't work in the bars or clubs, its hard to track
them
down. After their scams/tricks, they leave town for the another one
(Phuket,
Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Ko Samui, etc.). However, they will come back in
the
future for their next scams/tricks. So always be on guard. For a one sad
example, get on the www.pattayamail.com, read the article on Heartbreak
Hotel,
Vol.44, 31 Oct.97 (How one Briton's life savings of US $75,000 was
stolen by a
whore who then left town. He (father of 2 children in England) than
committed
suicide or was he murdered?). For another, try
www.paranoia.com/faq/prostitution/pattaya_murder.txt.html. Many more
exists,
but most victims are too embarrassed to notify the police, embassy, or
the
newspapers. And since most Farangs has to go home shortly after, police
have
difficult time catching the thieves/murders.
Vast majority of tourists (Farangs) visiting Pattaya and
Thailand
tends to stay for 1-4 weeks for their vacations. And most of them have
little
to no idea what really goes on here, except for the experienced tourists
and
expatriates. Well, let me tell you. Most of them will have the best
times of
their lives, as long as they have the MONEY and the likes to indulge in
drinking and sexual services that Thailand is well know for
internationally.
However, some of them will die here in Thailand...some will catch HIV,
the
virus that causes AIDS...some will blow or be robbed of their life
savings...some will marry and divorce prostitutes...some will open
businesses
that will go bankrupt...some will end up in jail...so always look before
you
jumb into something, keep your wits about you. Thailand is a beautiful,
fun
and safe country that is well known for their smiles and hospitality,
and you
will never have any problem as long as you watch your back and USE YOUR
COMMON
SENSE.
When Thai girls first comes to Pattaya and other Farang
whorehouses.
They tend to be quiet, innocent like, cute, conservative, plain, and
speak no
to minimal english. However, after 3 months, they change for the worst.
They
become whores. They lost that consevative nice girl charm. Most are
still fair
and nice but longer the girls work in the business, colder they become.
From
my experience, the worst and the most dangerous whores are the one's
with
tattoos, smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol and/or use drugs, act slutty,
pathologically lies, NOT RELIGIOUS to BUDDHA and speaks fair to good
english.
However, don't let the looks fool you. Some girls look very cute,
innocent and
speaks politely but if given the opportunity, they will take everything
you
got without hesitation. Here are some Dos and Don'ts to help you out.
Don't act stupid or foolish. Whores here actively seek out for
new
Farangs who are dumb and stupid. They usually ask them 4 questions, such
as
but not limited to, What is your name? (to hook you in), What hotel are
you
staying? (to see how much MONEY you have), Is this your first time? (to
find
out if you know anything), How long are you staying? (to see the total
amounts
of MONEY she can get from you). Looking back, I could remember what this
experienced whore told me about Farangs which is 100% true. She said in
broken
english, "I love stupid Farangs, so that I can get as much MONEY as
possible
but I hate smart Farangs, since they know everything". Most girls are
amateurs
and tends to be fair but sizable chunk are professional whores who can
tell if
a Farang is new or dumb. Its these whores who lie, steal, and cheat to
take as
much MONEY as possible. Common trick is to get you to buy them gold
necklaces,
rings, bracelets, etc,.especially when you leave Thailand. You see lots
of
jewelry on these whores. Some whores will pawn or hide these jewelry so
that
you can buy them a new one, especailly when you return next time.
Don't try to impress these girls by spending lots of MONEY on
them,
or try to show them off. They know that you work hard all year long to
save
enough to blow your MONEY on girls and booze. And once your MONEY is
gone,
they will leave you for another man, and they don't care if you spent
large
sums of MONEY on them already. If they really like you, girls are too
embarrassed to ask for any MONEY at all and will accept whatever you
give
them. However, if they don't like you , girls will ask for more MONEY
and have
no problem taking or spending your MONEY.
Don't ever trust these girls under any circumstances when it
comes
to MONEY. Like I said before, they lie all the time, and say anything to
get
your MONEY. In fact, they lie so much that, they forget what they lied
about.
They know that you have to go back home soon, so it doesn't make any
difference to them.
Don't think or make decisions using the head of your penis,
always
use your head between the shoulders and your mind. You'll save MONEY and
possibly your own life.
In general, vast majority of Farangs in Pattaya and Thailand
is
middle to elderly men between the ages of 35-70 years old. They tend to
be
uneducated, foolish, lonely, overweight, not the best looking or the
smartest
men in the world. Girls here calls them "koewai", means waterbuffalo. In
general, typical girls are small, sexy, cute, uneducated, MONEY starved
girls
between the ages of 18-40. High percentage of these girls are HIV
positive.
Always use your condom and practice safe sex. HIV, the virus that causes
AIDS
is transmitted via blood, seamen, and vaginal secretions. HIV virus is
also
contained in saliva, urine, stool, and other body fluids. Sex is great
but I
refuse to die from it, so always protect yourself and your partner.
Almost all Farangs married to Thais are prostitutes. Most
marriages
don't work out due to language barriers, cultural, political, religious
and
age differences. Once they bring these girls back home, it gets worse.
Stigma
attached to marrying a Thai girl is that, "She's a whore", especially by
his
family members, friends, co-workers, peers, and the community. It has
an
international reputation.
Don't feel sorry for these girls once you leave Thailand. They
will
find some other Farangs to be with on the same day as you leave. And
never
send these girls any MONEY to keep them from working as prostitutes or
hoping
them to wait for you when you return next time. Big mistake, this is the
biggest scam that these whores have on "koewais". Some are even married
to
Farangs and/or have Farang boyfriends who sends them MONEY every month
to
"support" them, but they still work as prostitutes for more MONEY. They
can
never get enough. Farangs who are pussy-whipped is the one's who do
this. Its
better to rent pussy while you're in Pattaya and Thailand, rather than
sending
MONEY every month and have some other Farang or Thai men fucking your
girlfriend/wife. These whores mostly free-lance, since they are
too lazy to work regularly and have enough MONEY to support themselves,
thanks
to those fools. Like all girls in the world, they like young men around
their
own age. For your information, some girls have Thai boyfriends and some
are
lesbians and transvestites. So watch out.
There is a big expatriate community in and around Pattaya. You
can
learn plenty from them and from other experienced Tourist Farangs, but
be
weary of your fellow Farangs. Some are crooks and criminals hiding out
in
Thailand. They have some scams too.
Don't be so egocentric. Be politically correct and never say
anything
bad against the King, Queen, and the Buddha. Treat girls with respect
and
never touch them without their permission, especially on their heads.
Most
Thais are very tolerant of Farangs but they can only take so much. Many
fights, some died, and some ended up in the hospitals.
Try not to come alone and bring a friend with you. Safety in
numbers. If you come alone and something happens to you, you're in deep
shit.
Never get into fights with Thais, they usually gang-up on you and your
fellow
Farangs will not help. Thailand is semi-corrupt country and its a way of
life
here. Some police, local, and central government officials can be
bought.
Altercation between Farangs and Thais is always in Thais' favor. Fines
is much
higher for Farangs than Thais. They have double standards.
As a foreigner, Thais will never treat us as one of them. They
tolerate Farangs because of hugh sums of MONEY we bring in to the
country.
However, if you can speak Thai and follow their customs, you have much
better
chances of being accepted. Even though, Farangs always pay more than
Thais for
the same things.
Don't think or treat respectable Thai women like Thai whores.
Most
poor Thai girls don't sell their bodies. They work hard and honestly to
make a
clean living for themselves and their families.
The best times to come to Pattaya and Thailand is between the
months
of March to October (slow season). Girls are cheaper and much
friendlier. Ask
for 20-50% discount on your hotel, especially if you're staying over 2
weeks.
Busiest 3 months are December, January, and February (peak season).
November
and August is semi-busy. A week before Christmas to week after New Year
is the
busiest time of the year. At peak season, the prices are firm and girls
are
less friendlier. Hotels still gives discounts if you stay more than 2
weeks
(10-30%) but not around Christmas and New Year.
In conclusion, I highly recommend that you buy and read a book
titled, South-East Asia by Lonely Planet. It has wealth of information
and
facts you need to know before coming to Thailand. In addition to those 2
web
sites that I mentioned earliers, try www.asiatravel.com (for hotels),
www.bangkokpost.com (for facts and nite owl articles), www.tat.or.th
(tourism), www.paranoia.com/faq/prostitution, and
www.paranoia.com/faq/prostitution/thailand.html ( for real life
experiences)
GOOD LUCK AND GOOD HUNTING
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Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 00:50:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Comments about Pattaya, Thailand, Dec. 1997
Despite efforts to remake the city's image, Pattaya
remains a sex-tourism capital. The promotion efforts
are having some effect, though, as the city was very
packed-out over the Christmas and New Year period,
and not just with the punters.
Bars were operating all over the place and quite a
few girls had come in to take advantage of seasonal
traffic...sometimes these can be among the best, as
they're not hardened like some of the regulars.
I've never seen so many Western couples and families
in Pattaya. Those people must have been asleep at the
travel agent's office, or were sold a package trip
and didn't ask enough questions. I saw a lot of guys
bring the wife to a bar (lacking other things to do);
at best the women would react like the whole thing
was a museum curiosity or something.
And for heaven's sake, don't bring the kids. Ko
Samui and Phuket (with the possible exception of
Patong) are much better options.
Barfines at open-air places are about B150, and B400
at the go-go bars. I'd give B300-500 for a short
time and B700-1,000 for all night, which seemed to be
about right. At those prices, Pattaya was a much
better value for money at year-end 1997 than year-end
1996. How long it will last is anyone's guess.
Consider avoiding Pattaya during the big holidays
like Christmas, New Year's, Chinese New Year and a
few of the Thai national holidays (especially if they
make for long weekends). Hotels get packed,
traffic's a mess, and the best girls are long since
taken. The economic problems in Thailand have meant
a boost for visitor volume in Pattaya, ironically, as
Thais vacation in their own country rather than go
overseas. Bangkok is a good alternative for many of
the holiday periods, as traffic is much more
reasonable and there's a good range of things still
open.
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Subject: Pattaya, Thailand
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 18:36:04 -0000
Just got back from my first trip. INCREDIBLE! Here are some updates to
the
info previously listed.
I was there from November 12, 1997 to Nov. 30, 1997. The exchange rate
during my trip was about 40 Baht(B) per $1.00 US. $25.00 = 1000B. Its
now
about 50 to 1 or $20 US = 1000B. So things may have changed again.
The Marine Disco is alive and well and open. Best time to go, Midnight
to
4am.
The Baby A Go Go on Soi Diamond also alive and well. Many really hot
young
girls but most want short time. Going rate seemed to be 500B bar fine
and
1500B short time, no long time offered. Seemed a little high to me since
had been meeting women all week long who were taking as little as 500B
for
long time (all night) at Lucky Star (outside bar across from Marine
Disco)
Most of the time I was paying 1000B -1500B for all nite.
Blue Hawaii on Soi Diamond also has some excellent choice babes.
GREAT TIP. Go to the Lipstick Bar on Soi 2 (I think). Has newly
remodeled
short time rooms on premises. These are the nicest rooms I was in during
my
entire trip to Thailand. Lots of black marble, low lights, whirlpool
tub,
plants, soft music. The room was 600B and the girl was 1000B
ANOTHER TIP Las Vegas Go Go on Soi Postoffice. This is a "no knickers"
bar
meaning the girls are all pantyless all the time. They dance in cute
little
lace outfits or totally nude during the day. They have a short time room
thats FREE with a 200B inside "Bar Fine". Outside bar fine was 400B.
Lots
of old fat men and beatiful bored women. My friend Mr. Mark is a so
hyper,
that after 10 minutes of him playing air guitar and acting like a basic
fool, we had many girls crowded around us because we looked like we
might
be having fun. Too bad for the rest of the guys who were sitting around
leering at the girls like a cheetah stalking prey.
MANY BARS NOW HAVE THOSE SCROLLING MESSAGE SIGNS. READ THEM.
VIP Massage. This also seems to be largely overlooked. You pay 270B ($7)
for a physical massage 350 ($9) for a 1 1/2 hour "body massage". Of
course
afterward you negotiate with the girl to "finish the job" which varied
from
700B to 1500B. Lots of guys seem to like negotiating price before going
in,
but in my opinion, the girl has just given you an excellent massage and
hasn't probably made a dime. (or baht). In lots of cases she has worked
real hard. I didnt mind paying for "additional" services and if she
doesn't
negotiate a deal, she gets nothing. I paid an average of 1000b and one
girl
who was exceptionally good 1500B. I got an excellent bath/massage/body
massage and fucked and sucked. Compare this to the 500B barfine and
1500B
short time of most Go Go bars. We come out about even, except I got an
excellent bath/massage/body... you get the idea. Some of the girls were
older and fatter (cheaper too) and a couple of young superstars.
I actually went there just to get a good physical massage with no sex
because I was having trouble sleeping (jet lag) and needed to really
relax.
But since I was there anyway and she had starting sucking me off and
then
asked about money, I decided what the hell!
If you could do anything you wanted in life, wouldn't it be to ride dirt
bikes and harleys, go river rafting, throw hand grenades, shoot missles,
get drunk, have sex with great looking babes and own a great rock and
roll
go-go bar? The guys that own Tahitian Queen show videos of their
exploits
on the TV's in their bar.
As this was my first trip, I was overwhelmed but I had an excellent
guide(Jim). Some advice I think should be passed on.
1. Be fair with the girls but don't overpay. You'll ruin it for all of
us
2. Tipping is not a custom in Thailand. Lots of people do tip as it is
an
international custom but 3-5% is adequate. When in doubt, refer to the
second part of lesson 1.
3. Try to learn a little Thai, it's only polite.
4. Read a little about Thailand before going. I couldn't believe how
many
guys I saw grabbing girls by the head (a no-no), kissing in public, etc.
Respect the girls and the culture. (I went out with a girl who didn't
want
me to kiss her in public but wanted me to finger her under her dress in
a
go go bar while we watched the sex shows. Go figure).
5. If (when) you get so fucked out you need to take a day off, go to a
Wat
or a Thai market and take in some of the culture.
6. Try not to maul the girls until after you tell them your name. What I
mean here is give her a chance to get comfortable with you. Let her know
you are a human being, not some flat slob who can't even speak her
language
that wants to stick his dick in her. This is universal advice in any
country but I can't believe how many men I see ignore this. Believe me
you'll have a much better time. A $3 ladies drink wont kill you and when
you consider what a lousy time you are going to have when you get back
home
you'll wish you had maximized your pleasure.
7. Try some of the older women or more plain women. Its easy to do
superstars everynight in Thailand, but I find the average "cute" girls
to
be more affectionate, usually cheaper and more appreciative and most
times
better in bed. I try to mix it up and do some real lookers, but lets
face
it, Im there for sex.
8. Respect the girls and respect the culture. I repeated this because it
is
so important.
9. Don't cause trouble. If you want to be an ass, stay home. We're there
to
party and have a good time. I didnt see any fights while I was there,
probably because the testosterone level is at about zero, but I did see
some tatoo'd shaved head assholes who seemed to be trying their best to
fuck up everyone's time. Everybody's going to get laid so just relax. If
some guy says hi to your girl don't get all worked up, cause guess what,
she's going to be doing someone else as soon as you get on that plane!
My friends didnt want me to write this. They are very protective of
their
(our) little paradise. They want to keep it as big a secret as possible
figuring too many tourists will drive the price up, etc. Personally, I
think the secret's already out. Its definitely Disneyland for adult
males
but remember "Respect the girls and respect the culture".
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:17:55 +0300
Subject: Thailand: Pattaya price update
I visited Pattaya second half of February 1998. Short price-list:
At time of my visit dollar was 1 to 43-45 baht
Go-go bars: bar fines 500-600 baht; short time about 1.500 baht; long
time 2.500-3.000 baht; girls all had tendency to go just for short time
and even, agreeing for long time, started to ask for going home after
2-3 hours
Body massage: Sabai land - 600 baht for body massage itself - done
pretty poorly both for me and my friend (about 40-45 minutes); after
girls ask for 2.000 baht for straight sex - my experience was also below
average.
Bars near the road - bar fines about 400 baht or none; standard pay for
girls 1.000 baht long time (till the morning); best deal up to me - but
most unsafe obviously; quality of girls is lower than in go-go bars but
if you spend couple of hours you can find a superstar; beware of
transvestites!
Maritime disco - starts to work after midnight; yes - there are several
girls there (no more than 10-20) - all of them are so ugly.... never
asked about the price
Good advice - pay the girl only AFTER the services are done; I always
did so and in case of low performance reduced the requested fee. (Of
course I gave good tips if performance was good)
I lived in an excellent 5-star hotel (Dusit Resort) - very reasonable
price, excellent service and not a problem to take a girl to your room
Have fun
Doctor Moon Ray
Pattaya" section of Atta's World Sex Guide. Go to
http://www.deja.com/~worldsexguide to see the entire WSG.)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 23:10:58 -0500
Subject: Pattaya
I spent 17 fantastic days in Pattaya in the last half of February 98. A
lot has changed since my last trip in the spring of 93. The bar scene is
pretty much the same, but there were tons more tourists than before. I
arrived in Pattaya on the 14th (Valentines Day), very popular day for
the ladies. Even though it was 4 am when I got to the hotel, and about
25 hours of travelling time getting there, I immediately headed down to
the bars. Hordes of people everywhere, almost as many male tourists as
working girls. Started out at the Marine Bar, right below the Marine
Disco, which is still open and doing a roaring business. Needless to
say, after a 5 year absence I didn't know anybody anymore. I decided to
check out as many bars as I could to see what was still available.
Being as I was dressed to kill and everyone around me was wearing shorts
and t-shirts, I kinda stood out in the crowds. As a result, girls in
every bar I passed were trying to entice me in. (I noticed that after I
started wearing shorts and a t-shirt as well, no one made any great
effort to attract my attention)
I ended up in a little bar near the Marine A GO GO about nine in the
morning where I met a Laotian girl named Joy. Supposedly she was just
down from Laos to visit a girlfriend, and had only gone out that night
because it was Valentines. We never even discussed price, just went back
to the hotel, showered, had a quick bout of sex and slept. Later that
day we went out to get something to eat. I gave 1,000 baht and she ask
me what it was for ! I told her it was for her, period. After eating
supper, I started to pull out my wallet but she insisted on paying. We
ended up back at the "Lucky 7 Stars" bar where again, she insisted on
paying. I figured I had a pretty good thing going here so I stayed with
her. She wanted sex more often than I did (she wasn't happy with
anything less than 3 times a day, more often preferring up to 5 times a
day)
Everyday I would give her a 2,000 baht allowance, and no matter what we
did, shopping, sightseeing, eating, drinking, etc, she paid for it,
often getting better prices/rates than I could have alone. I ended up
spending alot of time with her Laos friends and learned quite abit about
how things work in the industry. At least among the Laos's, most of them
were just looking for some one nice, money wasn't a concern at all.
As for the rest of Pattaya, bars come and bars go, only to be replaced
by more bars. Most of the Go Go bars appeared pretty much the same,
scantily clad girls trying to get guys to go short itme, doing a variety
of sex shows in between.
Short time was usually 500 baht(about $12.00 US), and long time was
1,000(about $22.00 US). I did alot of wandering around and didn't notice
that many signs in Russian. I don't know where those stories are coming
from that Pattaya is being taken over by Russian mafia. If anything,
there are more "Allah" tourists there than anything.
For anyone interested in going there, avoid mid-May to early June, the
US Navy does an annual joint exercise with the Thai military which
results in about 10,000 sailors and marines descending on Pattaya.
During April is the annual "Songkran" festival, during which passerbys
used to chance getting sprinkled with water. Now alot of tourists are
abusing the festival and soaking everybody with buckets of water and
whatever else is handy. I would mind getting soaked, as long as it was
only water being thrown.
I started out staying at the Bazzar Hotel (350 baht/night, aircon,
fairly quiet location) and then moved to the Beach Inn at the insistence
of Joy, who decided we would be better off in a cheaper place (220
baht/night, aircon, right in the entertainment district, can be loud
depending on where your room is located, but is less than a block from
the Marine Bar/Disco)
I'm going back in July and will send an update from one of the
cyber-cafes. Till then, Happy humpin !
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 22:03:10 +0800
Subject: A Massage Parlour At Pattaya
I went to Thailand on June 1998 with a few of my friends. I had a great
time
in Pattaya and I wish to share that wonderful experience with you and
hope
you get that same wonderful treatment.
We didn't know which place had good looking girls and provided good
service at a reasonable price. Our tour guide brought us to this
massage parlour called P.P Body Massage. Inside there were about 30-40
girls dressed in cute dresses with number tags on them. They were
seated behind this glass room. The manager told us that these girls
were good at massage and sex. These girls cost 1500 baht for an hour
and a half of service. I couldn't help but notice gorgeous looking
chicks dressed in sexy dresses and tight jeans sitting by the bar
counter. So I asked the manager who they were. He said that they were
"superstars". So I asked why they were called such. He said that the
were fairly good in massage, excellent in sex and damn good
looking. To be frank they were real knock outs!
These "superstars" came at a higher price though. For the same time
limit they cost 2000 baht. So we chose 4 "superstars" for ourselves
cuz we rather have better looking girls who can fuck than average(some
were pretty good looking too!) looking girls who were better at
massage!
We paid at the cashier and waited for the girls. They came to the
cashier and got the room keys and brought us up to our rooms. This
joint had big rooms with all the necessities with a little extra. King
sized beds, television, dressing table, bath tub and even a balcony!
My girl, Koy is her name, got a basket full of toiletries and placed
them near the bath tub. Behind her followed a waiter who was ready to
take orders for our drinks. I got us 2 cokes for 80 baht and tipped
the guy 20. After he left Koy locked the door and turned on the tap
for the bath. While waiting for the bath to fill Koy sat down beside
me on the bed. So we proceeded on getting to know each other
better. She was 23 but she looked much younger like maybe 20-21. She
said that she was from Changmai and just arrived about a week ago to
work here. Then the bath was ready.
She got me up and stripped off my clothes and gave me a towel to wrap
myself in. She then faced her back towards me(Thai girls are shy !)and
took off her clothes. Then she wrapped herself in a towel and
proceeded to take off her undies. Then she took my hand and brought me
to the bath. I got in first and was told to lie down. She sat opposite
me crossed legged, lifted my butt and placed them on her thighs.Then
she squeezed shower cream all over and bathed me. After she got me
clean from head to toe, she went on to bath herself. After that she
was back under the towel again while I was lying on the bed watching
everything.
She took a condom from the dressing table and got onto the bed and
laid down beside me. I removed her towel and mine. She tore off the
wrapper took out the condom, placed it in her mouth and rolled it down
my dick without using her hands!
Then she got up on the bed knelt down before me and there I saw a fair
skinned girl with nice firm tits, slim smooth body with a well trimmed
bush. She then proceeded to give me the best blowjob I ever
had. After a while she moved up and sucked on my nipples while she
eased herself onto my dick. We tried a few styles before I came.
Then I thought that was it. But I was wrong when she asked if I'd like
another shot.
According to the manager, the full service was for only one shot but
you could arrange the price with the girl if you want subsequent
shots. So I asked her how much. She just nodded her head. I wasn't
sure of what she meant but she took off the the condom, got a new one
and again rolled it with her mouth over my dick.
By the second time I came it was over the time given. So she quickly
bathed me and herself. We got dressed and I gave her a 500 baht tip
for the extra and excellent service and she gave me a "thank you"
kiss.
When we went downstairs, she headed for the manager (to collect her
share) and left me a look. One last look to tell me to come back
again. And I will, later this year when I go back to Thailand.
Doctor Moon Ray
Report #3" (see the second part in the thread following the
"Thailand: Bangkok" section) - was posted unaltered by Doctor Moon Ray
from Atta's World Sex Guide. Follow THREAD to see the previous part of
http://www.deja.com/~worldsexguide to see the entire WSG.)
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 02:48:39 GMT
[The following is a true account of my trip to Thailand]
Note: $1 = ~25 Baht]
Passed through Bangkok immigration fairly fast but arrived after 11pm,
too late for any of the buses to Pattaya or into the city. Instead had
to contend with the taxis again. Was not able to get any of them to
turn on their meters and ended up bargaining a 250 baht fare to the
Sukhumvit Crown, Soi 8. 540 baht a night at the Crown, same as last
year. Hotel isn't much to look at, but I value its prime location.
After check in went immediately to have a look at the new Thermae, just
a few doors down from the old one, towards Soi Cowboy. The setup inside
is remarkably similar, but somewhat more spacious. The most obvious
difference is the addition of a large horseshoe shaped bar placed in the
center around which people sit. It's about 12:30am and the crowd's
still
pretty light. A couple of the booths are packed with girls, but they
have a bit too much of a streetwise, jaded, hard edge for my taste.
After talking to a girl from Chiang Mai who won't go back with me
because,
she says, her uncle works at the Crown (and I'm not about to go off with
her to her place after just meeting her). I settle on a girl sitting by
herself at a back table.
She says she is Thai but has a distinctly Chinese face. She's dressed
in a printed skirt and jacket outfit and is quite chubby. This I use to
get her to lower her allnight price from over 1000 baht to 700.
Her name is Goolop. She's 33, has no baby, and is the first girl I
sleep with who, near as I can tell, cannot speak one word of English.
She's a happy, passionate girl, though, and we manage to communicate
just the same. And to add to this unusual combination of a non English
speaking, over 30, Thermae girl with no baby, Goolop turns out to be an
expert masseuse.
My 700 baht goes far, as once back in my room we undress and she bathes
me, literally scrubbing every inch of my body, all on her own
initiative.
Back on the bed, she proceeds to give just as thorough a massage,
pressing,
pulling, and yanking my every joint and muscle.
We make love three times during the night, Goolop as passionate and
practiced in this art as her others. At one point the stereotype of the
secret sexual passion of oriental girls comes to mind, her being the
embodiment. She having done everything else for me so far, the next
morning I have her shave my face, which she also does with great care
and expertise.
Finally around noon time we head out for a buffet lunch at the
Ambassador
Hotel. I'm unable to find the dining area initially, for like Thermae,
they've redone the block. The large Ambassador Hotel sign on Sukhumvit
is gone, replaced by a KFC logo. We have to walk down an additional
couple
of doors and then down a long alley way before finding the buffet, and I
feel a slight pang at the loss of another small part of Bangkok's
character.
The buffet is the same as before, just a few baht more expensive. I pay
Goolop at the table and afterward we part on Sukhumvit with a kiss on
the cheek.
My original plan was to go directly to Pattaya from the airport instead
of spending the night in Bangkok. So now the next afternoon, I make my
run. I pack up and check out and take a metered taxi to Ekamai bus
station for 57 baht just in time to cat the 3pm aircon express to
Pattaya
for 66 baht.
It's about a three hour ride to Pattaya terminal, and then a 20 baht
blue taxi (actually a covered pickup truck with two rows of benches) to
2nd Road where I check into the Apex Hotel. The room is slightly
smaller
than at the Crown but it comes with a built in safe deposit box and
refrigerator stocked with beer, soft drinks, and water (in addition to
a large double bed, aircon, color TV, and hot shower) all for only 250
baht a night. To me, an excellent deal.
The Apex is also centrally located near many beer bars and the rest of
the action. There is in fact a beer bar literally next door. And after
check in, when I head out to exchange a traveler's cheque, I walk past
and speak to a girl whom only moments before I saw waiting at the hotel
desk. She says remember me and we start talking. Her name is Oy and
we agree on a 500 baht all night (it's only about 6:30pm), plus a 150
baht
barfine, less than half what I'd pay for a Bangkok bargirl.
We locate a money exchange together and then go back to my room for a
mid evening session, after which Oy says she's hungry (and I'm quite
thirsty). We go back downstairs to her bar, she gets a small bottle of
a Japanese vitamin D drink (it tastes citrusy) and I have a couple of
quick bottles of Klosters. Too quick perhaps, for they give me a
significant buzz on my empty stomach. We then go out hand in hand and
she gives me the grand walking tour of Pattaya Beach and 2nd Roads,
checking out all the beer bars, go-go bars, and Marine Disco.
We stop for a light fried rice meal at a small place for about 40 baht
and I have another Klosters. She tells me that when she first saw me at
the hotel front desk, she was just saying goodby to a German man whom
she'd been with for the last two weeks at 500 baht a day. Before that
she'd been with a Swiss guy who paid her 20,000 baht for a month's of
her company. I can see why men would want to go long time with her.
She's about 5'1" with a lot of curves, and a natural beauty, most of the
time wearing no makeup at all. She's still young at 22 and also doesn't
have a baby, another plus.
I am a little uncomfortable around her. I'm in room 427 and she spent
the last two weeks in room 412 down the hall, and is calling my every
move. Even more so, after being with the last two guys, her German is
apparently better than her English, and I'm a little disconcerted she
can tell me my age in German.
In general, the mark, so to speak, of der Fatherland is found throughout
Pattaya, with many shops advertising that they "sprechen Deutsch." The
farang population itself also seems to average at least 20 years older
than me. This impression at one point framed by the sight of a fat bald
gray haired man, well past 60, with a teenaged Thai girl on this lap.
Oy and I circle back to my hotel and retire to intimacy. I find her to
have one of the most erogenous bodies of any Thai girl I've been with.
She seems able to almost get off on just nipple sucking alone. I follow
this by going down on her in a determined manner. She stops me before
coming saying "condom, condom." I penetrate her, side by side, and
ride her through, the padded head board protecting her pate, as she
moans and gasps in a manner deserving of video release.
We make love once more the next morning, and after a shower, say goodby
until evening. It's only about 9:30am, a little early for me. I
generally like to keep a girl at least until noon but since I didn't
make that a prior condition I can't really make her stay. In the end
though, it's a good thing. It gives me a chance to get caught up in my
diary, plus a girl kept too long becomes a ball and chain, keeping me
from tasting all the surrounding delights.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
After a $3 American food buffet breakfast at the Lek Hotel, I walk
around and shop, my first full day in Pattaya, and record the recent
past events.
In the afternoon I head out again, bringing my umbrella, as the skys
have become threatening. After exchanging a TC, I stop at a near empty
beer bar to wait out a sudden cloud burst.
I speak to a tiny slim Thai girl sitting in hot pants and a top. She's
25 and has a kid, but still has a nice body. I decide I'd prefer to get
to know her better, seeing the rain from inside my hotel, so we go off
for a 300 baht short time, no bar fine. She's a passionate lover,
generally the case with the older ones in my experience, and I'm able to
make her come through penetration alone, my own orgasm finally coming at
the end.
Though I'm clearly a "cheap charlie" relative to the rest of the farang,
I must have some added value, for even at 300 baht she's asking to see
me again this evening. I don't have change for her, so with the rain
stopped, we go out, buy a couple of ice cream bars and sit on the curb,
while I read the Bangkok Post. For the first time, I read something
about
a U.S. cruise missle attack on Iraq.
She finally takes off on a motorbike taxi and I walk back along 2nd
Road. I'm soon approached by a girl as she parks her motorbike. She
says she's from Singapore and wants to know where Soi 5 is. Before I
can answer she goes into some story about intending to set up a business
in Pattaya. She then grabs my hand and starts dragging me down 2nd Road
saying we're going to a hotel, that I can have her for free. I spotted
a scam the moment she pulled up to me, but let her drag me along since I
was heading that way anyway. As soon as we turn into a soi, though, I
yank
her off and wave by-by, not caring to find out what's waiting for in the
hotel.
I head back to Beach Road wandering around and see a big banner
advertising internet access. I go into the Apple Pattaya Computer Co.,
Ltd. on 183/12 Soi Post Office and ask for e-mail. And for 50 baht I
sit in front of Mac and type out a quick "electronic post card" home.
The place isn't exactly a cybercafe, but I'm glad to have been able to
send word back.
I grab a cheeseburger at the Beach Road McDonalds and decide to check
out
of the Apex and into the White Inn near 2nd Rd and Soi 14, a much more
prime location, and still very reasonable at 400 baht/night for a room
with aircon, TV, hot shower, and stocked refrigerator.
Today has become short time day, as after check in, I'm at another bar
bringing back another girl, 150 baht barfine. She's 20, no baby, kinda
chubby, but with a very beautiful angelic face. The problem is she
turns out to be painfully shy and sad, not a workable combination.
After perhaps two hours with her I give up, her silent stare
unbreakable.
She says she's only been in Pattaya 2 months and has had very few men.
As
unresponsive as she behaves, her pussy becomes very wet. But as I probe
it with my fingers I retrieve a somewhat milky fluid with a few small
white
lumps. Not being into yeast infections myself, I quickly wash my hands,
tell her to see a doctor, dress, and send here on her way, she refusing
any
money.
With the night still early, I go out and stop at a next door beer bar
full of about 20 very agressive Thai girls. I'm having to pull their
hands off me as I settle down with a Klosters while they all vie for me
to pay them out. I don't really care for any of them. They're all well
past 25, many past 30, or 35 even, with a hard mean edge to them.
Finally,
after a few minutes of prodding, I take a plainly dressed 20 year old
who's
been quiet behind the bar.
We take the short walk back to the White Inn. She's thin, under 5 feet
tall, no baby, also named Oy, with classic Thai features. A beautiful
young thing. We have a 500 baht short time together. She also turns
out to be very shy, but in a playful manner, and we have a good time.
It's now after 11 and I've been with four different girls today. I'm
tired and decide it's time to find one more, a good one, to spend the
night with. I've sort of gone through the spectrum of bar girls, and
now simply want a "good heart," one whom I can talk to and whose company
I'll enjoy.
Around midnight I find myself at the Bamboo Bar near the Marine Disco
and
start talking to a girl in a long blue print dress. Her name is Puk,
she's 30, looks older, 4'9", been in Pattaya 4 years, and has one kid.
Her manner is uncharacteristically soft and I bring her back for a 500
baht all night. She turns out to be a good pick, very affectionate, as
she manages to sleep the whole time with her body wrapped around mine.
We turn out to both be tired, for we don't get up until about 2pm the
next afternoon. We shower, dress, and walk over to the P72 restaurant
for a late lunch. Afterwards I agree to see her again at 10pm at the
Bamboo Bar.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ran a couple of errands and then briefly visited the actual beach at
Pattaya, walking on the light brown sand and dipping my hand in the
water, touching the Gulf of Thailand.
After a barbequed chicken leg and Klosters at a beer bar, went after a
massage, eventually making my way, after a couple of stops, all the way
over to 2nd Rd and Soi 3 to the Sabailand Massage Parlor. It's a well
outfitted place, apparently intended to cater as much to the Japanese
tourist as the western farang.
A massage is 350 baht, anything more you work out with the girl. This
seems significantly cheaper than the 1500 baht up front another place
near the Marine Disco wanted that I wandered into on a previous night.
Unlike some places, the girls here are able to look back at you through
the glass as they sit on stairs in gowns apparently watching TV. At
least half either ignore me or stare back coldly, but a fair number
also smile and invite me to choose them. Eventually I give in to one
particularly cute girl whose enticements are unrelenting.
Number 169 is named June and in person she is as warm and friendly as
behind glass. She's 22, about 4'10", no baby, with her hair only a
little below her ears and dyed brown. Sabailand seems so high rent
my only complaint is they don't offer a laundry service for farang
who've spent too much time walking around humid Pattaya.
June leads me up to a room divided between a twin bed against the wall
and a bath with a double wide tub. We undress and she thoroughly washes
me in the tub and then leads me out to an air mattress where after
reducing
a dozen bars of soap to liquid with a big brush, pours this over me as I
lay on my stomach. Her massage is both intense and sensual, culminating
in her rubbing and sliding her entire tiny body up and down against
mine.
I turn over and she repeats this, and I respond with a full erection.
This of course is the point, to arose me intensely, and then to ask how
much I will pay to make love to her. This always being my intention, I
don't feel like a fool, and we agree on 1000 baht.
After rinsing and drying we go over to the bed where I first go down on
her, bringing her to a throbbing orgasm, and then penetrate her to a
second. Afterwards, I ask her for all night and promise to return at 11
the next night where she will go with me for 1200 baht plus the 350 bar
fine. We part after a drink together and I briefly check out the Sabai
Room Massage Parlor across the street. This place seems particularly
tailored to the Japanese, half the customers at the bar appearing so,
with the establishment's business card itself also containing a Japanese
translation. But I don't find the girls any more numerous or
attractive,
so remain content with my first choice.
At 10pm I find my way back to the Bamboo Bar to see Puk again. She's
there to go with me again for the night, but is not open to my wanting
to bring a second girl along. Instead she fixes me up with two others
whom I instead take back. I find them ok but not stunners, both in
their early to mid 20's. One of them lied to me about not having a
baby, her stomach strongly showing the effects of pregnancy. She also
proceeds both to smoke a cigarette in my room again my wishes and to
help herself to a beer from my refrigerator. In addition, she's
absolutely adamant against any girl-girl action, which to me was part of
the point of bringing back two. This is finally too much and I ask her
to leave, me keeping the other, who's obviously spent less time in bars.
They refuse to split, however, so I'm left having to dump them both, but
manage to get off only paying them each 300 baht.
So again I find myself alone past midnight looking for female company
'til morning. After going up and down a few sois, I settle on a short
haired, large breasted, slightly chubby girl named Nom. I pay the 200
baht bar fine and we agree on 700 baht all night.
She's 23, no baby, and has only spent a little time in Pattaya, the bar
life having ground away very little of her innocence or "good heart."
We enjoy the night together but she gets up a few times complaining of a
sinus reaction to the wet weather. At 9:30 the next morning she says
she needs to go to the doctor for some medicine but will be back at 11
and asks for me to pay her her 700 baht now.
Having had little sleep, I prefer to remain in bed and also tell her I
don't have the money, the previous night's entertainment having tapped
me out, and would have to go out to an exchange booth which I don't want
to do now. Instead I give her 200 baht and the hotel business card so
she can find her way back, then return to bed to sleep and wait for her.
I awake after 1pm with Nom apparently never showing, and never getting
her
additional 500 baht. Having given her all the time I could, I decide to
let the whole thing pass, and go out for some khao phat and to wait out
the returning rain.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
At around 6pm I'm back on Beach Rd. checking out the scene and end up at
the Best Friend Bar, a group of about a dozen open air beer bars. I
make my way through them. Nearly all without any customers to keep
company, the half dozen girls in each plead with me to sit down with
them. I end up at the rear bar mostly because one of the girls there is
wearing a fishnet top and nothing underneath, completely exposing her
well formed breasts. My arousal turns to disappointment though, as I
soon find out she's a ladyboy.
My attention then turns to the girl next to her, this one anatomically
natural, who rather than preening in the exagerated femininity of a
ladyboy, instead chooses to dress in biker girl garb complete with a
permanent sneer. I hook onto her, pay the 150 baht barfine and take
her back to my hotel for a 300 baht short time.
Her name is Somboo. She's in her early 20's, no baby, comes from
Bangkok, and is the only child of two retired teachers, a part of her
bargirl income supplementing their pensions.
A good deal of her tough girl attitude dissolves when I remove her
clothes, replaced instead with the more typical "I'm shy, I'm shy" Thai
modesty. Not intending to spend the whole evening with her, I don't
spend much time easing into foreplay, and soon am screwing her. Because
of the number of girls I'm averaging, or just being in my early 30's and
past my sexual peak, I don't come as quickly or easily as I did a few
years ago. This is all the better from the girl's point of view,
though,
as the period of conjugation has become sufficiently long for me to
consistantly bring them to vaginal orgasm. My own ejaculation follows
only with determined will.
Having pleased Somboo, and myself, we lay together a couple of minutes
in post coital congress and then shower and dress. Alone with me in my
hotel room favors Somboo, over the alternative of returning to the bar,
as she lingers for at least an additional 15 minutes talking and showing
me the perfume and makeup she keeps in her little short time bag. After
a while, though, I do see her off, wanting to get on with my evening,
and not promising to visit her again later on at her bar.
It's past 8:30 and I wander down Soi Post Office, get a coconut from a
vendor, and settle down at a go-go bar, my first since coming to
Pattaya.
I don't think much of the place. The girls wear conservative two
piece outfits and dance rather listlessly arund their stage poles. I
get one of them to sit next to me and find out her all night price is
500
baht to the bar and 1000 to her, an amount I have no plans of paying. A
couple of expensive lady drinks later and I've put out a total of 265
baht, enough for me. So I pay up and hop on a blue taxi cross town to
the Sabailand Massage Parlor.
June, the girl I was supposed to meet there and who made me promise to
show ("no bullshit") is instead a no show herself, several telling me
she
didn't come in that day. Well, whatever. I'm disappointed and pick
another girl, this one the spitting image of Sung Hi Lee, without the
breast implants. She gives me an extremely pleasant full body massage
but I keep my hands off her, not caring to incur a possible additional
fee or tip, and instead stick with the 350 baht obligatory. She's
willing to spend the night with me for 1500 baht but I pass, her
reaching for a cigarette having dampened my desire.
I ride back to cruise the beer bars once more for my last night in
Pattaya and end up at one with an absolutely stunning girl of 18. Her
face is perfect and she looks right off the cover of a Thai fashion or
teen magazine. I can have her the night for a 200 baht barfine and 1000
baht to her, all negotiated through the mamasan. I give in to this one,
thinking this is about the best you can possibly do, but soon regret
my choice.
Her maturity level is indeed that of an 18 year old, if not an 8 year
old, for she's all whining and pouting, and has a shyness complex to the
point where she can't stand for me to look at her, her beautiful naked
body
on my bed something I'm unable to keep my eyes off of. We go back and
forth with this for a few minutes, my sucking on her nipples and clit
not sufficiently loosening her up. Finally I've had enough, and she
wants to go. So she does, fortunately not demanding any payment for
what was for both of us an unenjoyable experience and a waste of time.
By now I'm emotionally burned out on all this. It's after 1am and I'd
just as soon go to bed, but not alone. I stop at the first beer bar in
the other direction next to my hotel, and find this hole in the wall
populated by a single bar maid and a single bar girl, both over 30. I
never bother learning the bar girl's name. She's a darker brown, has
wavy hair and is slightly thick at 5'3". She seems nice enough, though
has little to say, the girl behind the bar assuring me she has a "good
heart." That's all I'm looking for at this point, so I pay the bar 150
and take this large eyed native girl for a 500 baht all night.
I am both too tired and too depressed to attempt anything more that
night so we just have a quick shower together and fall asleep in each
other's arms.
The next morning I feel otherwise, somewhat, and wake to have her at 8am
and again at 9:30. We shower, dress, and talk some, she again being the
type who finds my company preferable to being alone. I learn I'm her
first farang in a long time (maybe first ever, her English is very
poor), she drawing her income simply by sitting on a bar stool. Like
every girl I've been with in Pattaya, she tells me she hates Arabs.
From what I could gather, the basic stereotype is that they have a
strong odor, have rough unshaven faces with mustaches, and enjoy being
rough, sadistically so. In any case, clearly they must feel welcome.
Because, although half the signs in Pattaya are in German, half the
tourists are Arab.
I finally send her off, she sorry to go, and pack up and check out,
wanting to make the 12:00 bus back to Ekamai station. Bangkok,
Thailand.
On the blue taxi to the bus, I leave Pattaya with one final image:
across from me sits a 70 year old man in shorts and a tank top, his huge
round beer gut protruding beneath, and one hand holding that of the
bored
teenage Thai girl sitting next to him.
Doctor Moon Ray
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Police in Pattaya beach resort have arrested six people for allegedly
robbing male tourists after enticing them to lick the drug-laced
nipples of female suspects. Five women and one men confessed. At least
45 Western and Asian tourists have died of drug overdoses at Pattaya
in the past year.
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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:49:43 +0700 (ICT)
Subject: re: "Murder she...": 45 Pattaya Johns Drugged & Murdered?!
IMHO: The Swiss "Rohypnol" knock-out tranquilizer drug is probably the
weapon of choice for the rash of murders of prostitutes' customers in
Pattaya, Thailand in the last year, as outlined below. This is also the
favorite drug of date-rapists in the USA, readily available, without
presciption, in Mexico and Thailand.
The stories reported below sound quite phantastic, but murder, however
commited and to whomever, is the most serious crime and not funny. I was
in
Pattaya two weeks ago and this is the talk of the town there, both among
tourists and locals.
The report sounds a bit exaggerated, and the names of the victims don't
sound right (as translated from Thai), but the victims might have
checked
into hotels under aliases, and carrying large amounts of cash and
valuables
is not unusual in those circles where credit cards are not honored.
Methinks this crime wave is the direct result of the anti-sex-tourism
propaganda which swept through international media during the last few
years resulting in a 28% reduction of tourist arrivals in Thailand
(trust
me: most of them are sex-tourists, even the women and couples). The
hookers
and pimps make less money now and resort to crime to maintain the
cashflow
and lifestyle they got accustomed to in the fat years preceding.
Quotes from NG soc.culture.thai:
Are you KIDDING... "anesthetic wax coated on her breasts" this is pretty
hard to believe... and I thought Thailand was coming out of the 3rd
world... If this IS true, it is actually pretty funny. Sounds like
something out of a James Bond "B" movie "anesthetic wax coated on her
breasts" Ha-Ha!
> Sereechai Weekly, a Thai newspaper in the U.S., reported news on
> the front page of Nov 30-Dec 6 issue that Thai police are now
> investigating the mysterious deaths of "sudden heart failures"
> by 45 foreign male tourists in the past 12 months.
>
> The report is too lengthy to be translated here, but the gist of
> the news report is that there has been a recurring pattern of
> deaths caused by heart seizures in hotel rooms in Pattaya. The
lastest
> victim is a Mr. Cheklerkulai Josephine, a U.S. tourist, aged 40 years,
> who was found unconscious on his bed in a hotel room. He was rushed
> to the hospital by Police Colonel Prapakorn and was later brought
> to consciousness. He gave a report to the police that while drinking
> beer in a bar around Soi 2 of Pattaya City he met a pretty young
> Thai girl about 20 years old. She told him that she worked in a
> massage parlor at Mile Hotel in Pattaya. So, he took her out to
> his hotel room at a contractual price of Baht 1,500. And while
> engaging in the foreplay, he became unconscious because of contact
> with anesthetic wax coated on her breasts -- and he fell blank
> suddenly. Mr. Josephine, an American male tourist, lost his
> gold necklace, Rolex watch, and cash, totalling about $20,000 in
> value.
>
> Similar crimes were reported on Mr. Marti Juhanee Koshonen, 51 years
> old, a German male tourist, at Center Hotel, Soi 12, Pattaya, who
> lost about $17,000 worth of valuables.
>
> A list of 45 other male toursits, from Americans, Dutch, Japanese,
> Australian, Briton, Finnish, Belgian, French, Oman, Swedish,
> Saudi Arab, Kuwait, Norwegian, Malaysian, and New Zealander, with
> full names are given in this news report.
>
> End of gist of the news report from Sereechai Newspaper. Same
> news should be found in local newspapers in Thailand, as this
> crime wave in Pattaya is of great concern to the police.
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Continuing the translation of some important sections on this
news article published in Sereechai Weekly, November 30-December 6
issue, the following part of this lengthy article should serve
as useful information for any pleasure-seeking male tourist planning
to visit Pattaya:
"According to news reports, on November 24th, Mr. Marti Juharnee
Koshonen, 51 years old, a German national, was drugged in the
Center Hotel, Soi 12, Pattaya, and was robbed for about Baht 300,000
($13,500 approx.). Mr. Koshonen was hospitalized at the Injer
Hospital because of forced drug overdose. And, on the same day,
Mr. Mark Bregmen, 31 years old, was also drugged in the same hotel
and Mr. Maller Bodyguard, 34 years old, was drugged in Hotel I.A.
These last 2 men were overdosed with drugs that they suffered
a shock resulting in heart failures and death with saliva fuming
all over their mouths. These victims have added to the 45 deaths
since the beginning of this year and the majority of the dead men
were between 30-35 years of age.
News reports also informed that the gangsters who engage in drugging
male tourists have a member who is a German male with a Thai wife
by the name of "Vassana." He is reigning as a crime boss supervising
and grooming Thai girls in his bar. His gang is called "
"Roodzcher" with a bear bar as a front and using Thai girls as decoys
to lure the male tourist victims into designated rooms in order
to drug them and to rob them. If the victim is a big, lucrative
deal, then drugging will be overdone to kill the victim smoothly.
In addition, the gang is engaged in extortions of foreign tourists.
Those who do not pay protection money may not have a peaceful stay
as residents of Pattaya.
Lt. Police General Narongvich Thaitong, deputy chief of Thai Police
in Region 2, said that there should be a special task force to
wipe out the crimes because the present situation in Pattaya is
damaging tourism of Thailand."
End of translation from Sereechai Weekly of the above-named issue
and from page 12/Section 1.
Without endorsing the veracity of the article, this is what was
reported in the Thai paper in the U.S. and in the Bangkok Post,
the Nation, as well as in local Thai newspapers in Thailand (as well as
internationally).
List of those 45 dead male tourists have been published and
identified in Thai, German, Dutch, Swiss and English news media.
--
(Remark: According to various media reports (Bangkok Post, Bild, London
Times, Pattaya Mail ect) the final count of suspicious deaths of
tourists
in Pattaya over the last 2 yrs was 148)
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[Undated posting about the Marine Disco in Pattaya Beach]
>I've never met anybody who ever paid more than 100 baht for a girl
>there... Don't let this guy take you on a tour, or he'll rip you off
>(or else, if he gets ten people to go, he get's free air fare....).
>Betcha he paid $30.00 a night at the queen hotel ....
This is current information.
I've got news for you. I was there last year. The usual prices are
500 baht ($20) for all night or 300 baht ($12) for a short time. And
they treat you like a boyfriend, not a customer. I don't know the Queen
hotel, but $25 to $30 for a nice hotel is about right. The really bad
news is in Bangkok, the barfine is now 300 baht and the girls want 1000
baht ($40). Prices are going up. Pretty soon you might as well stay
here, except that the ladies are the sweetest in the world. I would
travel around the world to be with them, in fact, I do, several times a
year. Happy Traveling.