North America: Mexico: Tijuana: Travel reports
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Take the trolley from downtown San Diego ($1.75) and walk over the border.
Once there, don't take a cab: walking is faster, about 10 minutes to
downtown TJ. Having crossed the Tijuana river, it's time to buy
yourself a 'No soy un gringo' t-shirt (unless, of course, you happen
to be a citizen of the nation which has invaded Mexico 18 times in the
past, in which case you shouldn't expect too much).
Tijuana is generally a pretty safe place. Just make sure that you
don't look too rich. If you start a fight or drink alcohol on the
street, la policia will be there and you can decide between la casa or
a hefty tip :-) The brothels never get busted though since the
policemen are involved in the trade.
Once you reach Av. Revolucion, you have two choices: the bars catering
to Americans are to the left, the red light district 'zona norte' is
straight ahead.
On Revolucion between 6th and 7th you'll find the Bambi club and Sans
Souci. $2 - $3 for a beer. One woman is dancing, usually not nude. The
other women are busy fondling gringos. Pay them (the women, not the
gringos!) a drink, and for $40 - $75 they'll go with you to the
hotel. Which is pretty shitty, to say the least. Some of the whores are
very pretty, but you never know how active they are in bed. I got a
blonde who started with a price of $75 (plus $15 for the room), and
was down to $45 after 3 minutes. She was good. Condoms are used at all
times. Apparently no time limit.
Turn right onto 7th street. Mexico Linda seems to be a good club,
packed with women, might be expensive though. Didn't check the prices.
If you are tired of the fake pseudo funky facade of Revolucion, try
the real live, which is in la zona norte. Go back to 2nd street, turn
left, then turn right on Constitucion. You get really good food here,
not the Burger King junk from Revolucion. Hookers at every corner.
When you see the Molino Rojo, turn left. Adelita and Las Chavelas are
great whore houses, both packed with at least 50 women each. Going rate
is $40 plus $10 for the room, which is in the adjacent hotel and much
better then the one downtown. (Shower, towel, soap, everything). The
women dance with you for a buck. Many Mexicans there, only an
occasional gringo. Many girls speak almost no English, so brush up on
your Spanish beforehand. Quality of women varies greatly. I tend to
favor the 7 or 8's which seem to get more into it; the 10's often are
too professional. Beer is $2, no cover charge of course, and you don't
even have to buy a beer as long as you walk around and check out the
girls. I've yet to see a better way to spend $50.
The more adventurous might want to try one of the strip bars here. No
Americans there, the women look more like the Mexicans like them: a
little bit more flesh on the bones. The sound system is interesting:
imagine a walkman, powered to 3000 watts, but still using the
earphones as loudspeaker.
Atta
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From: an53...@anon.penet.fi (AGentleMan)
Subject: Tijuana: two warnings
Date: 16 June 1996
I have visited Tijuana several times on my travels over the years. My first
visit was years before the World Sex Guide and I had to find everything on
my own. So I hired a cabby and asked him to show me where I could find
hookers. He took me to one place and wanted to drop me off. No, I said, I
wanted to know where ALL the places were. So he showed me around for a
grand total of $2, a very good investment. After inspecting the places he
showed me, it didn't take long to realize that the Adelita and Chicago Clubs
were the places to go, a fact confirmed many times in these newsgroups. The
first place he took me wasn't any good and was probably one which would give
him a commission.
My last visit to the Adelita was last August, and the Mexican recession must
have hit it because at 6 pm on a Friday the place was dead. It used to be
hopping at 2 in the afternoon. It's been my long experience in Mexican
hooker bars in numerous cities that they often don't get started until 9 pm,
so I planned on coming back then. I went back to my hotel just across the
border on the American side to rest up a bit before my next foray.
Warning #1: Take a cab.
It has always been my practice to walk in from the border even though it is
about a half hour walk to the Adelita. I like to walk and it also saves me
about $10 in cab fare round trip. I started out about 8:30, just after
dark. I walked across the pedestrian overpass (I'm talking about the one
over the river, not the one at the border station). As I was walking down
the stairs on the other side I got jumped by four guys. Two of them grabbed
each arm, one grabbed my legs and lifted me up in the air, and one started
choking me from behind. The guys on each arm started to rip my pants to
shreds (I had shorts on). Well, I'm not like these guys on TV who can
easily karate kick their way out of such a situation. In fact, I found I
was totally helpless. All I could do was kick my legs a little bit, but it
was totally ineffective, especially against the real threat, which was the
guy choking me from behind. I could feel myself blacking out and realized
that I was in a potentially life-threatening situation with nothing I could
do about it. And then I went blank.
As I slowly started to regain consciousness, my first thought was that it
seemed like I was waking from a dream and I started to think "thank
goodness, that was only a bad dream." But as I regained a bit more
consciousness I realized it wasn't a dream, and these four guys were still
working at ripping my shorts to shreds, and I was still in a very
threatening situation. Evidently the guy choking me loosened his grip as
soon as I went limp. But he was still there and their tactics taught me
very quickly not to resist. As soon as I was awake enough I blurted out, in
English, "You can have it! You can have it!" They yelled back, also in
English, "Where is it? Where is it?" since they evidently had not found my
money yet even though my shorts were pretty well shredded. My wallet was in
my left rear pocket. I guess most people carry it on the right because that
pocket was already shredded. My mind was not yet clear enough to give
directions (left rear pocket) so I just said "I'll give it to you! I'll
give it to you!" and started to try to get my wallet out. I couldn't think
any more clearly to do anything else. It was in a buttoned pocket and I had
to struggle a bit to get it. It had about $100 in it but my I.D. and credit
cards were in a money belt so it would be no big loss anyway, especially
under the circumstances, where I would gladly pay $100 or anything else to
get out of this situation.
I managed to get the button open and had my wallet half way out when they
suddenly dropped me and ran off. I'm not sure if this was because somebody
started coming or if it was for some other reason. It was probably because
they finally found a wad of bills I had in my right front pocket: 18
one-dollar bills. I always carry a bunch of ones so I can buy drinks and
such without needing change (which would be given in pesos, not dollars).
This made for a fairly thick wad so they probably thought they had it made,
but it was only $18 that I ended up losing (plus my shorts and a little bit
of pride).
So here I was, lying on the ground in a daze. All that was left of my
shorts was my belt, my money belt, and the pocket containing my wallet. I
had no money in the money belt but did have some more money in a hidden
pocket in my shoes. A few condoms that had been in one of my pockets were
scattered around on the ground, a potential embarrassment. I heard somebody
ask me if I was OK and I said I thought so. I picked myself up and
fortunately found my rental car keys on the ground (what a major hassle that
could have been!). I was essentially in my underwear (a low-cut colored
brief) but at least my shirt was long enough to cover them up a bit. But I
sure got some funny stares and a few questions as I walked a couple of
blocks to where I could get a cab. I was lucky I had some money to pay for
a cab back to the border. I had certainly given up any thought of going to
the Adelita that night. My neck hurt and I was in a basic state of shock
and feeling very subdued (definitely not horny).
At the border crossing I had to wade through the hordes of people while
having no pants on. At one point I passed three Mexican cops coming the
other way and they didn't seem to pay me any attention. I didn't want to
report the incident because I was in Tijuana on the sly and didn't want it
known that I was there. I also would not be able to identify the attackers.
However, it would have been good to report this so Mexican officials would
know where any problem areas are. I dreaded waiting in line to get past
immigration, but they didn't even ask me anything. I got back to my hotel
and fortunately I had another pair of pants in my luggage. My neck was
swollen and sore for about three days but otherwise I was fine.
I am not trying to say that Tijuana is unsafe. I just had bad luck and was
walking alone in a vulnerable area. But next time I'll take the cab. I
still would have no concern about walking the neighborhood around the Adelita.
Warning #2: Transsexual bars.
Earlier that same day I was wandering about in Tijuana and walked into a few
bars with barkers just to take a look (normally I would avoid any bars that
have touts or barkers). In one of them, there were several sexy girls in
low cut dresses who immediately surrounded me and one of them pulled out her
breasts and started placing my hands on them. Fortunately, I was not a
novice and I knew exactly what to do: immediately guard my pockets and get
out of there. If you ever encounter any unusually aggessive girls like this
anywhere in Mexico (either in a bar or on the street), that is what you
should do. These "girls" were not girls when they were born, and while your
hands are on their implanted breasts, their hands will be cleaning out your
pockets.
I first encountered this phenomenon in Juarez, and lost $40 before I knew
what was happening. Ever since then I could recognize the signals
immediately. A friend and I had a bit of fun once at the Chavez bar in
Juarez (since closed). It was full of very attractive transsexuals and we
went in with only exactly enough money to buy one drink and nothing in our
pockets. We sat down at a table and were immediately surrounded with
several "girls" who tried to pick our pockets. They were drunk and it took
a while for them to figure out that we were suckering them. We also got an
interesting floor show where one of the "girls" placed the neck of an open
beer bottle into her (artificially constructed) pussy, then lay down on her
back and let some of the beer flow out onto the stage, and then passed the
bottle around. I passed on that one.
These transsexuals are also hookers. If it doesn't bother you that they
used to be men, you might have a good time, since they actually like men
better than the "straight" hookers do and would likely try to please you
more. Not my cup of tea, though. By the way, I've never had a straight
hooker try to pick my pocket in Mexico.
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Subject: [ASP] JayHawk's Trip to Tijuana
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 09:04:52 -0600
JAYHAWK'S TRIP TO TIJUANA
Well, I finally did it. Armed with two years of High School Spanish in my
very distant past, a wad of $1 and $5 bills, and the many postings from
a.s.p., I crossed the border into sunny Mexico to check out the Tijuana
scene. First, let me say that Brockton O'Toole's FAQ is so detailed, so
accurate, and so outstanding that there is very little new that I can add
to it. Oh, faithful scribe, thank you for this outstanding piece of research.
I would have been lost without it. Since I can't provide too much more
detail, I will simply describe my evening...however, forgive me
Brockton for, in a few places, I do disagree with a few of your calls
on quality of girls at various establishments.
It was a Wednesday night and I head for the border at around 8 pm. I
drove all the way to the border station on I-5 and followed the
"U-turn, return to US" sign in the far right lane. This dumps you
onto the road running parallel with I-5 where all the parking lots
are. I cruised this short road for a few minutes, found no free
parking on the street, so I pulled into Five Star Parking, the lot
closest to the border, and paid $6 to park.
I basically just followed the crowds (What a crowd! Who are these
people, and why are they all going to Tijuana?) through the turnstiles
and into Mexico. It is about a 5 min walk past customs and other
buildings until you come to a taxi pickup area with literally hundreds
of cabs. I had originally planned to walk over, but even armed with
my map, I quickly got disoriented.
Immediately cab drivers approached and offered to drive me. I ignored
all of them, walking past the cabs, trying to find the pedestrian
bridge, when one said, "$3 to go into town." For $3, I took it. I'm
glad now I didn't try to walk. He took so many turns getting from the
cab station to town that I never could have figured it out. I told
him to drop me at Adelita Bar.
The first problem is that almost none of the streets have signs, so I
never did figure out what street I was on. Below I will attempt to
identify the key landmarks. Each `X' represents a streetwalker. This
is not necessarily a one-for-one count, but gives you an idea of the
distribution. As you can see, there is a significant number in the
block or two around Adelita, but I didn't see too many further out.
(I hope this comes out OK when it posts!)
[no it didn't --Atta]
Chicago Club | X X X X XX | X X =20
--------------------- |--------------------|----------------|----------
X X | X X X |XXXXXXXXX|XXXXXXXXXX
|Adelita Bar X |X |
| X |X |
|X X XX X X |X X | X X
---------------------|---------------------|----------------|
I hit the street at about 8:30 and proceeded to cruise around. There
were literally hundreds of girls on the street. Contrary to previous
reports, I didn't find them to be either particularly young or old.
In fact, I didn't think they were much better or worse than the girls
in Adelita Bar (discussed below). The age range was probably 18-30,
with a few pushing up towards 40, but not many. They were *very*
aggressive. Several grabbed my coat as I walked by. One grabbed and
wouldn't let go and I had to pull her hand off my jacket. Another
came up to me, started talking, and kept following me down the street
for half a block. This was amusing at first, then began to get
irritating. I didn't see any real beauties, but no real dogs either.
I would say most rated around 4-7. I noted several nice looking young
ones I would be happy to fuck, then moved on to the bars to see if I
could find anything better.
I first tried Adelita Bar, which is exactly as described in the FAQ.
Loud music, crowded, noisy. I was the only gringo in the place. The
girls were only mildly aggressive. One came up to me and started
speaking in pretty good English. She said she gave a really good
massage and would I like to come next door with her. She was pretty
nice looking...maybe late 20's, 5'4", good bod, about a 6-7. I told
her it was still early in the evening and I was still looking around.
She wasn't pushy, said OK, and moved on.
Contrary to the FAQ, I wouldn't describe all the women there as "short and
chubby." There were indeed a number that were petite (which I like) and
full-figured (which I don't), but there were some tall thin blondes, and a
number of nice looking trim brunettes. One tall thin blonde pinched my ass
as I walked by her. She wasn't my type so I passed. There were probably
40-50 women there, with 20-30 guys. A few couples were dancing, but not
many. I made a mental note of 3-4 women I would be happy to fuck, then I
decided to wander over to The Chicago Club to check out the action there
before making any decisions.
Chicago Club was a morgue. No one was on the dance floor, there were
maybe 10 guys sitting in booths, and about 5-6 women either sitting at
the bar or hanging out by a large mirror near the entrance. Many, but
not all, guys looked to be Americans. Again, contrary to the FAQ, I
wouldn't describe these women as much better than what was in Adelita.
Also contrary to the FAQ, there were very few blondes. Maybe on
average, these women were one rating point better than those at
Adelita, but that's all. However, there was one that really caught my
eye. She was a tallish brunette in a long red dress, maybe 5'7",
stunning body, thin with really big tits, probably a 37D-24-35. In
the so-so lighting, she looked to be very pretty, with long dark hair;
probably a 9, or possibly even a 10. She was your classic Chicana
beauty. She had a really nice dress on and reeked of class. I was
actually a little scared off by this. She was sitting alone at the
bar, no one near her, no guys approaching her. I did see some
Americans leave with women that looked far worse, so I thought she was
holding out for some big spender.
It was only about 9 pm, so I decided to cruise some more. I wandered
further down the street Chicago Club is on (I think this is
Constitution, but I'm not positive), making a left as I exited Chicago
Club, and I walked for several blocks. There are many girls on the
streets here, but still none that swept me away. It starts to thin
out about 3 blocks away from Chicago Club. I head back to Adelita
where I spent about 10-15 min slowly studying the girls.
One thing that bugged me here is that the bar is pretty dark. Some of
these women looked pretty good, but in the light and out of costume I
bet their ratings would drop 2-3 points. I actually found that if I
stood outside, I could see women going in and out of the bar, and the
light was much better so I could get a good look.
It was now getting close to 10:00 pm and I decided to get down to
business. I head back to Chicago Club where the number of girls had
now more than doubled. I counted 15, and there was now a good
selection. There were at least 3-4 girls who rated a 7 or better,
although there were some 4-5's too.
I sat at the corner booth by the rest rooms and ordered a beer ($2, I
gave the waiter $3). Again, contrary to the FAQ which said that the
women in Chicago Club aren't pushy, almost *immediately* when I sat
down, a woman came over and slid into my booth. She was one of the
worst ones there, chubby, maybe 30, and scoring no better than a 4.
This pissed me off a bit and I gave very curt answers to her
questions. Within 60 seconds, three different waiters descended on me
and asked if I wanted to buy her a drink. I said no, and after 3-4
minutes of small talk she got the hint and left. My beauty in the red
dress was still hanging out, and no one was coming close to her,
although she had now moved over by the large mirror and was standing
by herself. I decided I was going to make my move, and if she turned
me down I had two backups in mind. There was another tallish, thin
brunette with short hair, smaller tits, but she was very pretty,
dressed nice, and looked really good, probably an 8. There was also a
blonde with big tits, wearing a halter top and cutoffs that were
already partially unzipped. She wasn't as pretty, probably a 6, but
had a heavenly body, and looked a little trashy.=20 Sometimes you want
Princess Di, sometimes you want Madonna. What can I say?
I nursed the beer for awhile, not wanting to either spend much on
drinks or get too polluted. Finally my waiter came back (the only
male waiter working that evening; the rest were all women). I asked
him if he could bring the girl in the red dress over for a drink. We
couldn't see her from my table, but I told him exactly where she was
standing, and described her. His English was so-so, so I used a
little of my terrible Spanish and he got the idea. He brought her
over, and I tipped him $2. I asked her if she wanted a drink, she
said yes, and the waiter brought one, for $8. I gave him $10.
Her name was Miriam, and she had only worked there for a month. I
couldn't tell if she was shy or aloof, but she said very little and
seemed a bit nervous. She only spoke a little English, and the music
was loud, so we had a little trouble communicating. After some
strained small talk, she got her drink (all 3 oz of it) and I finally
asked her if she wanted to go next store to the hotel. I was
surprised that I had to make the approach. Maybe she really was a
newbie! She wanted $60 and said it would be $10 for the hotel.
I asked her what she did for $60 and she said, "everything." I said,
"Everything? Do you do anal sex?" She gave me a blank look, and I
asked her again a couple times in a couple different ways (this is one
I didn't learn to say in Spanish in High School), but she still didn't
get it. Finally, I slipped my hand under her dress and pushed a
finger against her anus. To my pleasant surprise she was not wearing
panties so this was easy to do. I asked her if she did sex there. I
think she actually got embarrassed and said, "No, NOT everything!
Everything but that!!" I professed disappointment (but really didn't
care) and asked her if she would take $50.
She said, no, absolutely $60. I said OK, and we went to the hotel
directly next to the Chicago Club entrance.
The hotel was pretty nice and clean. I paid $10, Miriam was handed a
towel and we went to the room. She went into the bathroom for a
minute, then I used the facilities, then we both undressed. In the
light, she was indeed gorgeous. Probably no older than 21, very
pretty face, gorgeous body.
Overall, a 9+. Her tits were really large, almost too big for her
slim body. At first I thought they might be silicone, but I have felt
silicone boobs and they are like stretched balloons. These were very
soft so I think they were real. Also, I don't know what perfume she
had on, but she smelled heavenly. We made out for a few minutes on
the edge of the bed, then she asked if I wanted it "par boca" (by
mouth) and I said yes. She slipped on a condom and gave me a fairly
perfunctory, so-so blowjob. I honestly believe she hadn't been giving
them for very long, because she seemed like she didn't exactly know
what to do. After only 1-2 min she stopped, and we started cuddling
and kissing (but not on the mouth). She did not rush at all, and
after several minutes, I decided to get cracking. I sometimes like to
turn women around and do it in 3-4 positions, but she was so pretty,
and looked so good lying on the bed, I just hopped on and we did
missionary for 10-15 min until I came. She put on a pretty good
performance, moaning and groaning, and grinding, but I'm sure that it
was just that, a performance.
As soon as I was done, she quickly slipped out from under me, and
handed me some toilet paper (mounted right to the wall next to the
bed....geeze are they prepared!) She wasted no time getting dressed,
and by the time I came out of the bathroom from cleaning up, she
already had her coat on and was ready to go. She asked for $1 for the
boy that cleans the room, which I gave her. She then said, "Anything
for me?" I had already given her $60 and didn't want to spend too
much more, so I reached in my pants pocket (not my wallet) where I had
some small bills stashed. I had a $5 and a few $1's left, so I said,
"I don't have much left" and handed her the $5. She thanked me,
kissed me on the cheek, then raced out. Efficient, business-like,
quick.
Wham-bam, thank you ma'am. Don't get me wrong. She did the deed, and
did it well. She was a genuine beauty and it was a pleasure ploughing
her, but there was no pretense that this was anything other than a job
and she needed to get back to work.
I finished getting dressed, left the hotel, and caught a cab in front
of the hotel. He took me to the border and I gave him $5. Now here's
the confusing part not contained in the FAQ. You will be taken back
to the taxi pickup area where you get the cabs. From here you have to
cross a large arched bridge that goes over the southbound traffic
lanes. You then need to turn left, walk to a crosswalk, then cross
the many northbound traffic lanes at a crosswalk, taking your life in
your hands doing it. You then follow the sidewalk past all the
vendors into the U.S. immigration area. I showed my passport and was
waved right through. From here you need to exit immigration, make a
right, then another right into a covered walkway with an easy-to-miss
sign that says something like "Return to Mexico/West side parking."
This walkway bends and curves, eventually goes across the highway,
bends and curves some more, then dumps you back at the turnstiles
where you first entered Mexico. I head back to my car, and off I
went.
So the final tally was $6 for parking, $3+$5 for round-trip cab, $2+$1
for one beer, $2 tip to the waiter for bringing Miriam over, $8+$2 for
Miriam's beer, $10 for the room, $60 for Miriam, $5 tip for her, $1
tip for the hotel boy. A total of $105. In San Diego I probably
could have gotten laid in an Asian massage place for just about the
same price. Was it worth it?
Absolutely, but only because I ended up with a real gem. If I had
paid the same amount for my second or third choice, I'm not so sure.
I understand the girls at Adelita will go for $40-50, and the ones on
the street for $20-30.
You also apparently don't need to buy an Adelita girl a drink before
leaving, and this would knock $10 off the price. Next time (and there
*will* be a next time) I may try Adelita or the street. But will I go
back to Chicago Club again? Si si, Senor!
JayHawk
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 20:29:16 -0800
Subject: Recent TJ report.. Dec 96/Jan 97
Dear Sirs,
I write to you having just returned from a very pleasant series of
trips to TJ. I went there twice, once in Dec. 1996 and once in Jan
1997, 4 days each time. So this information is very recent.. I
haven't been to many places but let me tell you.... It is well worth
the trip. I followed the advice everyone gave here and had a series
of excellent experiences.
Arriving on the plane at S. Diego Airport I went on the bus to the
downtown ($.80). Then took the Trolley ($1.80) to the border. At the
border I grabbed a cab for $3.50 (it was a Friday nite, so that is the
reason I think it was so cheap).. Arriving at the Motel Alaska
($16.50/nite) I grabbed a room for the nite and began my adventure..
Walking from there, 1 block to the Zona Roja I was not disappointed!!
There were about 80 girls in a 2 block radius all wanting $20 for a
half hour of joy... I stopped and got my shoes shined along
Constitution St. with a shoeshine fella named Angel, who became a good
friend, look for him on Constitution where all of the other shoeshine
guys hang out -he and another nice guy named Tony are the only guys
who speak English out of the shoeshiners. While he shined my shoes he
told me a familiar sad story.. Family in the states and him being
deported... Poor guy.. I suspect it is the truth because I got to
know him very well, he's a nice guy and speaks good English. If you
need direction I recommend looking for him there and say that the guy
who bought him dinner told you to see him. Also get your shoes
shined, it's only $1, but means so much to these guys.. Anyways,
Angel filled me in on the Details.. The girls on the street are $10
for the locals and $15-20 for the gringos.. Plus $2-5 for the rooms.
I talked for awhile with him and got a scoop on the whole area, he's a
real source of information!! Recommend highly looking him up, just by
being seen hanging out with him makes you not so much of a gringo and
he has many contacts as well as being a good guy!
So I picked a girl who hangs out next to the shoeshiners named
Ellessa, she is Asian in appearance and well worth the $20... It was
$4 for the room across the street and worth 1/2 of an hour.. She
wanted $5 more for turning over to doggie, and was worth it, a little
greedy though I found later... In the next 2 days I sampled about 3
girls on the street a day and enjoyed myself thoroughly.
I found however several things about the girls... They range in age
from 15-50, and appearance from 4-8. Attitude was from 1-10.. Also,
all of them won't take off of their tops, and hardly any of them will
give head... Most of the girls are below the age of 18, but all claim
to be 18... Several I recommend.. Ellessa mentioned above, a little
tight though, but nice.. A girl named Patricia stands next to Ellessa
and isn't as hot but has a really nice personality and is enthusiastic
as well.. Down the side street in front of Miami I recommend a tiny
girl named Maria, she is really cute and saving for parents in Mexico
City who don't know what she does. Also, she has a friend from
Veracruz who I wish I could recall the name of, ask her for her friend
from Veracruz, really gets into the sex!!
O Wandering into the Adelita I found a guy I'll call J, he had
traveled around the world and loved TJ as much as the Philipines, you
can't beat the prices.. He was pretty well to do and showed me around
we went from Adelita's to Chicago's to the Mexican Lindo, all worth
visiting and just as others report.. At Chicago's I picked a girl
with BSR on her purple shirt, named Blanca and the rest of the
initials are her's. She was well worth it.. A little older, 26, but
really tight and nice, has one kid, $50 + $10 for the room.. Spoke a
little English, wouldn't give head though.. But good in the sack,
loved to grind her hips, and took a shower with me afterwards.. Ask
for her, she's shy but interesting in bed.......
I hung out with J for a couple of days and we went around with the
street girls, drank to much and had a great time... On the nite I
left town I found out something great to know.... The Adelita's is a
hotel also... For $20 you get a room for the nite.. This is
advantageous because if you do have a room and pick a girl you won't
have to pay the $10 room fee!!! If you grab 2 women then it pays for
the room!! What a place.. Before I left I grabbed a girl at
Adelita's who has blond hair, 5'4", 108 lbs, beautiful and does a
floor show, she was hot and I was slamming away on her for about 45
minutes when suddenly she decided it was time and I had 3 minutes
left.. She showed me it was time by the grinding she began it was
devastating, nice!! Cost $50+$10 for room.. Recommend her also....
Leaving the Hotel Alaska I headed back to San Diego.... I recommend
the Hotel Alaska, it's a safe place, don't get the rooms closest to
Primo Street.. Also, the hotel owner speaks good English.. You can
get a double room for $19.50 there if you're with a buddy, cheap
place.. Also ran into a guy named Dave who tried to sell me drugs -
promoting Ruphie's... Not my style, and I don't do drugs.. He speaks
English and if you walk down Revolution you'll run into him on any
weekend nite, he's 86'd from many places though, so he won't take you
to the good places.. Seemed on the level though..
Another weird experience I ran into a guy from Hawaii named Carl in
Adelita's who owns cabs in Long Beach. He's been going to Adelita's
for 3 years and fell in love with a girl there named Anna. So it was
pretty weird.. I speak Spanish, so he had me propose to her for him,
she said yes and they left together.. But on my return trip she was
still working there.. Her name's Anna, and don't mention Carl or else
she won't go with you... She's got a nice personality and can tell
you about the girls there as well.. Ask for her and get informed.
Returning to TJ after Xmas... I discovered that you can travel for
free on city buses on holidays, it was NY day, so I saved $2.50
getting to TJ. On the bus I met Osalam, a devout Muslim from Egypt,
he was very religious... We hit it off and shared a cab for $2.50
each from the border to the Alaskan. There we grabbed a double room
for $19.95 and went out on the town.. I took him to the strip places
and he didn't like them... Laid a major guilt trip, so I didn't do
anything except drink too much and crash.. Our room was so near
Primero street, so it was very noisy.. The next day I moved out into
the Adelita and said goodbye to my Egyptian buddy.
Moving into the Adelita I loved it, $20 a day +
$1.50 for towels, soap, and condoms a day.. It's the only hotel I've
ever checked into where they give you condoms.. For an extra $1.50 a
day I had a fella clean my room, and there was no problem with theft +
the security was good to get into the place. It's just the door next
to Adelita's and you go upstairs.... Well worth it, and located in
the center of the Zona Roja, but one complaint.. The Mexican music
wafts its way upstairs until 6 AM.. I brought some earplugs and they
came in handy.. I recommend bringing your own towels and soap, it'll
save you a little $$$.
I had a couple girls from Adelita's. A girl named Karlita, looks great
baby face, but when you get her upstairs you find out that she has 3
children, is 22, and has a major C section out of her stomach,. She
was lactating as well, so it was interesting.. She gave real good
head as well.... Cost was $50 for her.. Then I had Angela, she was
28, brunet and started at $50 but I got her for $40.. A pleasant
experience, she knew how to suck really well.. And I had her at the
end of the nite before crashing.. Had many girls on the street and
found that you can hold out for $15 and tell them that if they are
good they'll get a 5$ tip.. It improved the performance of the
streetgirls.
The best experience I had was the nite I left town... I wish I
would've found her the first nite.. In Chicago's the nite before I
left town I made eye contact with a girl over and over again, and
really had a feeling for her.. But I thought she was a $70 girl....So
I didn't have the cash.. The next day I was waiting for a girl to be
free at Adelita's and decided to wander over to Chicago's at around 8
PM and there she was just coming in.. She handed her coat + jacket to
the guy and stood by the door.. I wandered over and talked with her
in Spanish and told her I'd saw her the nite before and she said she'd
saw me, I asked her upstairs right away and told her that I was
interested.. $50 + $10 for the room... She gave me the best head
I've ever had and is the most beautiful woman I've had... Sigh.. She
had a shaved pussy and great breasts... I recommend her.. After the
sex, 1/2 an hour of it she laid there with me and talked as we cuddled
for about 1/2 an hour kissing and making out + massages.. I was
suprised... I told her that if I ever moved to San Diego I'd be a
regular with her.. I was suprised that she had a kid, she's bought a
house and is helping her dad buy one as well, a real sweetheart of a
lady well worth the trip to TJ, I wanted to take her back to America
with me.. Too bad I found her on my last day there.... She looked
like she was 20, but is actually 27. She stands near the door.
Everyone on this site says
that you have to buy a drink to take the women upstairs (4-8$), but I
found this wasn't so.... The group of girls who hang out at the
enterance to Chicago's just want to go upstairs and fuck and are in
the $50 price range. The girls at the far end of the bar tend to be
more expensive, up to $70... Remember also the $10 for the room...
I'm definitely going back!! Also, you don't have to buy the girls in
Adelita's a drink either, it is a good thing to do if you want to get
to know them a little before the act though..
I hung out with several Americans when I was there, and found that it
was good to do in that people tended to leave you alone. Some
interesting things.. In Chicago's one nite a Gringo called D ordered
a drink for a lady who said she'd be right back and left for the
evening, kinda a bummer for him, she had a bad personality anyways...
Many of the girls on the street try to grab you.. avoid them, and
don't go with any woman who asks for 10 dollars, something must be
wrong with her.. I'd like to take this moment to say hello to my
fellow buddies from TJ exploits.. J, D, and E.. I hope that they had
as much fun as I, I'll be back..
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Subject: [ASP] Re: My Latest Tijuana Trip Report
Date: 1 Feb 1997 16:20:22 -0500
>Yes, I did the girl with the black shorts on. Good but not great! $60-
>I did a girl named Rosie...she was great ($70-)...nice tits.
>
>The dance show was pretty average, but What do you expect for no cover
>charge. God, Vegas charges $20/covers.
>
>Please give info. and names of what girls are good.
Estudiante de TJ,
As far as who's good in the Chicago, if you've had Rosie, you've had the
best. At least the best I've had there. I was first told about her about
three years ago by a guy down there from LA. I told O'Toole to try her on
one of his early visits. Both he and I, and the guy from LA, and several
others have only good things to say about her. I haven't looked for her for
quite some time, but the last time I saw her she had permed hair parted in
the middle. She's one of the few that I thought actually looked better out
of her clothes than in them, and there was just something about the way she
went about her work. She seemed almost cat-like in her movements. My
tastes have turned more to the women that give great service over great
looks so you might not like those I'd recommend.
As far as the threesome. I'm a little hesitant to name her, but what the
hell. I don't want to hog her all to myself. It wasn't in the Chicago Club
that I found her. It was in Adelitas. Her name's Tania, she speaks a
little English, has straight black hair to just past her shoulders and parts
it in the middle. She's into astrology and is a vegetarian. Maybe 5'4" or
so, petite and often wears a latex or leather mini skirt (not micro mini
with her ass hanging out, but short). Someone else mentioned a woman that
fit her description very well once, but he said she was 40 years old. I
would have said 30 and she told me 24 (they ALL seem to stretch the truth on
the age thing a bit). Tell her you'd like to go to the hotel with her and
her friend that likes to "touch her" (as she put it). I don't know if she
would understand it in English perfectly (I speak to her in Spanish). Say
"Quiero ir al hotel contigo y tu amiga que le gusta tocarte". After that
session, I think just about anything from here on out would be a letdown.
It was incredible. A couple things to keep in mind- The hotel will charge
you double ($20 instead of $10). Bring a shit-load of condoms. For some
reason, they wanted to change my condom each time I switched from one to the
other. Seemed pretty strange given that they were exchanging bodilly fluids
with each other from the non-hetero activities going on, but what the heck.
In my case, they happened to have a lot of condoms with them, but I wouldn't
count on it. One other thing about Tania. She gives about the best head
I've had in TJ. She does it without a condom and I've always had to just
about literally pull her off my dick to boink her. I think of her as the
Hoover girl. I worry a bit about condomless blowjobs though, so although
they feel great, I don't often partake of them (she used a condom for oral
when working with her friend).
There's also a couple of women that looked like twins at Adelitas. They
said they were, but they may just be sisters. Wouldn't that be great to
have twins ? They've got what can only be referred to as bubble butts. I'd
almost swear they had butt implants! Not really what I like in a woman, but
if they'd work together, the twin angle would make up for the bubble butts.
I wasn't interested at the time and don't remember the names.
Oh, a bit of interesting trivia. I spoke with a woman working in Adelitas
that I've been with several times now so we we're a bit more open with each
other. I asked her how much she makes working there. She said a good
week's $2,500. Sometimes only $1,500 though. She works 6 day weeks.
Figure an average of $2,000 per week. That's $100,000 per year if she takes
no more than two weeks vacation. Not bad, eh ? Especially when you stop to
consider that she doesn't have to pay any income taxes. Now some of you
might understand why I'm harping on the advice that O'Toole is giving about
the $10 tip up front. I think you get good service if the girl's friendly
and LIKES you. An extra $10 will make absolutely no difference in my
opinion and would be MUCH better spent by giving it to the poor Indians on
the streets on your way out.
Cahondo, El Pendejo Sabio
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Subject: [ASP] TJ Superstar Rosie: Be Still My Heart
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 01:01:24 -0500 (EST)
Senor Pendejo recently had this to say about a super-hot girl at the
Chicago Club named Rosie:
: As far as who's good in the Chicago, if you've had Rosie, you've had the
: best. At least the best I've had there. I was first told about her about
: three years ago by a guy down there from LA. I told O'Toole to try her on
: one of his early visits. Both he and I, and the guy from LA, and several
: others have only good things to say about her.
Rosie is by far the hottest girl I've ever found in the Chicago Club.
First, she has a porno-queen body with terrifically firm and high tits and
a tight little ass. Her skin is golden brown and she trims her pubic hair
until its just a wisp. Second, she has a gorgeous face with a hot smile
and very nice brown eyes. Third, she likes to wear *extremely* short
shorts and knit tops that show off her terrific body. And last (but my no
means least) she is terrific in bed. As an added bonus, her English is
excellent and she does not have the "I can afford to be stuck-up because
I'm way hot" attitude. I've discussed everything from Gangsta' Rap to
Beavis and Butthead with Rosie. She is truly a Zona Norte superstar.
: I haven't looked for her for
: quite some time, but the last time I saw her she had permed hair parted in
: the middle. She's one of the few that I thought actually looked better out
: of her clothes than in them, and there was just something about the way she
: went about her work. She seemed almost cat-like in her movements.
That is an accurate description of Rosie's hair. It used to be about
shoulder length, but's it was longer the last time I saw her.
Unfortunately, that was several months ago and I haven't seen her since. I
theorize the Chicago Club isn't her only source of customers. I've seen
her wander into there for the first time at 1:30 a.m. Which causes me to
wonder where she spent the earlier part of the evening. With a
high-roller who arranges to see her in advance? Perhaps at some private
club we don't know about? I wonder if she might have left the bar scene
behind and that accounts for her absence. The good news is that when Rosie
is at the Chicago Club, she almost always sits or stands at the same place
at the bar. Crude ASCII art follows:
D ---- COAT CHECK -- ALCOVE ----W G |
O A G | B A R
O L G |
R --------------- L G |___________________________
G G G G Rosie G G G G G G G G G
If the diagram is scrambled, just remember Rosie like to sit and/or stand
at the bar along its longer axis. Her favorite seat is about two down from
the end of the bar closest the door and opposite the ladies room.
Regards,
Brockton O'Toole
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Subject: [ASP] Tijuana Results
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 14:47:10 -0500
I just got back from Tijuana, and I'd like to say, come on in the
water's fine. There's not much anyone can add to the excellent info
already there but here goes.
I had originally been hoping to return to Amsterdam for a mini sex
vacation. While Amsterdam, Costa Rica, or Thailand give you more bang
for the buck, they are also $600 in air fare, 8 hours, and a case of
jetlag away. Tijuana was $84 in air fare from the Bay Area, the US-side
hotel was $40/nite, and the beaver was $15-$60 a pop.
I stayed at the recommended Best Western Cavalier in Chula Vista.
$36/nite with AAA discount, plus 10% tax. (800)-420-0041. There's a
newer looking Motel 6 across the street advertising rooms for $32,
619-422-4200. Apparently you can stay on the beach near Tijuana on the
Mexico side for about this much and wonder if anyone has any info about
this.
>From the San Diego airport, take bus #2 from the East Terminal and ask
for a transfer, get off at the American Plaza stop, cross the street and
get on a trolley that says San Ysidro on it. Get off at Bayside/E-Street
stop, walk East past the tourist info center, and there you are at the
hotel. It's convenient location that lets you get up to San Diego or
down to Mexico with ease and without a car. If you keep going East on E
street past or thru the car wash, Liu's Famous Eggroll is a cheap feed.
There's also some restaurants if you cross over the freeway and take a
left.
Having a car would have been more trouble than it was worth. Besides, I
wanted to slum it, and once you hit Tijuana you are in the major leagues
of slumming it. A $5 taxi ride deposited me in front of Adelita's at 7PM
on a Saturday night. There were dozens of women selling themselves on a
street known as Calle Articulo 123. I think it is named for a part of
the Mexican constitution that legalizes prostitution. There were
probably a dozen women in the Chigago Club, 2 dozen in Adelitas, and 3
dozen on the street. At 10PM these numbers had doubled.
After a bit of wandering, I negotiated with Amelia, a slender 18 year
old fox, who agreed to my $15 bid after asking $20. The hotel was $3 and
we had to wait a bit for the room. We did the nasty, but she wasn't real
into it, though she was cute. When it comes to fuckin' there ain't no
bad.
I then wandered the main street, Constitution, and found refuge in the
Jai Alai place way down. This is a good place to just relax in quiet and
get your bearings without dealing with hawkers, hookers, and loud music.
Then, back to Adelitas to continue my research. At 9PM it was in full
swing. Of all the women, there were only 10 or 20 percent that turned me
on, and on a Saturday night you have to move fast. The hot ones are
rapidly scooped up and trundled back to the hotel for another
schtupping. I finally snagged a cute 21-year old named America who had
learned a few things about fucking in the 3 years she had on Amelia. $50
plus 10 for the hotel next door. That was it for Saturday. Sunday, I
went to the San Diego zoo to see how the animals do it.
On Monday I went back for another round. There were maybe 8 or 10
working the Chicago Club. There was a cute, slender native looking babe
with long straight black hair that I wanted to poke, but some damn LA
rock band had her tied up talking all night. While this put me out, it
does demonstrate that the ladies just want to please, if you want to
talk, or dance, or cuddle, or ball, they are simpatico. So I had a drink
with Melissa, danced with her, then off to the hotel for a $60 screw.
She had the stretch mark thing, but a great attitude, maybe was
approaching 30, and was a real good lay. Short cropped black hair,
classy looking.
I'd do it again for sure, though maybe only a special trip once or twice
a year. If you are in San Diego or Los Angeles and have a spare $20
bill, what are you waiting for? The clubs are cool, and have a greater
concentration of talent, but I found just as nice on the street. Would
you rather take a chance on one club girl, or stick 3 or 4 from the
street... at least one of them should be hot. I'd also say that it's
worth looking for "A woman of a certain age", and that it helps to watch
'em dance to vibe out their energy. None of them seem keen to give head,
but then blowjobs have lost their luster since condoms became mandatory.
In slight dissent from the FAQ, none of these 3 spoke English, and I
think its okay to go during midweek, and to get 'em from the street.
- Easy Rhino
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Subject: ASP My limited experience in Tijuana
Date: Thursday, 27 February, 1997 9:52 AM
I would like to contribute an experience I had a year ago on the wild and
wooly Revolution Avenue. Where to begin ? Well - I was on a business trip
to LaJolla Ca. and had never made that Mexico run that all the locals smile
about. So, I decided the best way to go was to rent a cab (Big mistake
$60..) flat one-way from LaJolla to the border. I also made a second
mistake I guess - because I decided to walk across the border (having no
map of the area) I must have walked 6-7 miles south then curved to the
right over a large graffiti strewn bridge. After eating breakfast in
McDonalds (what a GRINGO), I made my way to Revolucion Avenue. I was there
very early 12noon by the time I strolled into the famous parts (I had no
idea where, what, or how I was doing). I had not read anything professional
about TJ and had no idea where to find "it".
Well - believe me, "it" is hunting for you even harder than you are hunting
for "it". The Taxi drivers ask you 3 questions :
1) Do ju want a taxi
2) Do ju want some drugs
3) Do ju want poosey (Sorry for the bad imitation)
so I said no,no,yes - but I found out - you must say yes,no,yes - as it
seems that they must make a substantial part of their living this way. So
this wide-eyed gringo gets into the nasty old cab jamming raw salsa and
head off to God knows where (east of Revolucion about 3 miles or so). To I
swear to God what looked like a bombed out old Cafe. It was SO dumpy with a
woman of about 50 with the miles from years of hooking on her face. (No -
she wasn't the one that I had). I paid the cab driver $30 (all prices are
American) I thought this was for the service (HA!) was I in for a
surprise!....
I had a video camera and really wanted to film a lady masturbate etc. Not
sure if I would do the dirty deed or not. So As I am sitting in a very hot,
uncomfortable room, afraid of being shot. A restaurant style booth couch
slides away from the wall and out of a 3 foot hole pops a girl. First I
have to admit - I was expecting a sleeze bag and was surprised that this
girl looked very understated and sexy. She came over spoke a bit of broken
english (nothing memorable) and took my hand and we went through the hole
and up some back stairs to the second floor. I saw another hooker getting
dressed (obviously just done with a john) and went into a room with the
door closed.
I asked her to let me film her - and she removed her clothes. Her only flaw
was obviously having given birth 5 too many times - tummy was stretched and
a bit saggy. She kepy her bra on but dropped the cups below her beautiful
brownish black nipples which stood up (and it sure wasn't from the cold).
She had the world famous racing stripe cut on her pussy and she laid on her
back and opened her legs. She opened herself - tugged on her clit - and
inserted a finger or 2 - bringing them up to her lips. Oh - I forgot - she
moaned too (not a good actress)....
Well after all this - my little cub scout was straining a bit and I did the
universal hand gesture to the mouth asking her for a BJ....She said
$30.....I have read a penis has no budget so I yanked it out (the $30) and
removed my shorts and laid on the corner of this GROSS looking bed. she
left the room (nude0 to ask the madam for a rubber and returned with a big
smile. I was semi erect when she started to grip my member with her hand(s)
and she put the head inside the rubber and put that in her mouth - then she
unrolled the rubber all the way down. She was a very good blow and actually
had me lift my legs so she could get under my balls and to my asshole (a
FIRST!)....I also had never climaxed in a womans mouth (Sorry for my
innocence) but she let me (with the condom) which I admit actually hurt a
bit as she sucked the swollen head after ejaculation (Guys know that
pain)....The neatest part was after I got up and started to put on my pants
she came into the room with a bucket of water - a sponge and a dry towel
and washed my balls as I stood there very tenderly. I wish I could have
cleansed my mind of the thought of germs and what was in the water/sponge
that could kill me....she asked me the famous 2 words :Mo Money ? Mo Money
? - so I gave her a $20...Hope I didn't ruin it for the next guy! I left
Mexico with a satisfied groin, a strained wallet, a ton of Caneles GUM, and
a Hard Rock (knock-off) shirt......
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Subject: [ASP] TJ Crime Report - Robert
Date: 28 Mar 1997 08:21:01 +0100
I have been reading ASP for some time now, and just saw an article that I
wanted to comment on. This was the posting called "TJ Crime Report"
fowarded by the ever informative Brockton O'Toole. In it, the reporter
describes being mugged in broad daylight in the Zona Norte. Well, I got it
too, and after reading his report would bet that it was the same bad guys
because the MO was identical.
Last year, I made the trek to TJ from LA about 20 times. I go on Friday,
and leave LA about 2 or 3 in the afternoon. I take an easy drive down, and
get there about 5 or 6 depending on traffic. I park in the usual spot,
cross the border, and grab a cab and drive to the Adelita Bar. I scan the
Adeltia, have a soda if it's hot, and then check out the Chicago Club -
always dead at this time. After checking in like this, I hit the streets
because this is a good time to find some real cuties working the hotels.
This day was August 30, 1996. I started wandering around, feeling very good
and comfortable as I do in TJ. I'm looking around now, and head down the
alley that the Miami is on. There's a girl that I really like a lot that
works across from the Miami, but today she's not out. Instead, I start
making contact with another one who's name is Abril. We're off to the hotel
room, and she's very petite which I like. She's also wanting me to kiss
her, which is rare unless you know the girl real well. Her little pussy
moves good, and we have a real nice time.
After that I'm relaxed so I head back down the alley. Turn right at the
street, and there are the shoeshine guys. Got a shoeshine, and I'm looking
across the street deciding if I should get a chicken dinner, or go for
another kind of thigh. I'm thinking that a guy could get laid, a shoeshine,
and chicken dinner for $20 here.
I cross the street to check out the talent. This is the same street the
Chicago is on, across the light, along where all the fried chicken stands
are. I think almost exactly the same place our other reporter was. It's
6:30 and the street is packed. I'm standing there making my decision.
It happened quick. The guy grabbed me from behind, and it felt like there
was an iron bar across my throat. He must have been large and strong,
because my head was pulled back and I believe I was lifted up. I could
barely breath in very short gasps, and it felt like I was drowning. A crazy
thought went through my head that nobody was helping because they couldn't
see me, and if I could just yell out they would. The words couldn't come.
The guy jams me to the ground squeezing even tighter now, and I feel like
I'm on and operating table going under anesthesia. As I'm passing out, I
can feel other sets of hands going through my pockets. One guy is ripping
up the back of my pants where the wallet is buttoned in.
I really don't know how long I laid there. I woke up with this weird tunnel
vision. I looked down the street toward the Chicago, not sure who I was or
where I was. My first real thought was that I must have been working too
hard to have fallen asleep in the street. I noticed a guy gesturing to me,
and then he helped me to get up. Now I started to remember what happened
and said that I had been robbed. He said, "Just get up and start walking
fast. Follow me." I did, and we went around the corner.
His name is Rudy, and he is a Chicano from LA. He said he saw me laying
there, and he didn't think I was drunk and figured I needed help. He said
we should keep moving in the street because people are always watching you
here. We ducked into a bar across from the Adelita. He was almost broke
himself, but insisted on buying me a beer. I don't drink alcohol, but he
really waned me to join him. This is a rare guy, an amigo really, so I do.
We go back out, and move through the streets of TJ. Rudy moves fast along
the walls or in the street. Watch your back, and don't stop where someone
can come up behind you. I'm watching an expert. We head back down the
alley across from the Miami where this all started, and Rudy spots one he
wants. He asks if I'd wait while he did the deed - of course. He's only
got about $30, and he negotiates $15 for the room and everything. He
doesn't want to take extra into the room, so he gives me the other $15 to
hold while he's up there. He says "You won't take off, will you?" to which
I reply "God should strike me dead if I do" and mean it too.
We head back, walking toward the border, and Rudy decides that we will have
as good a time as $15 will get. I drink the beers when he offers, and get a
bit tipsy. Between the beer and the mugging I'm a bit disorientated. We go
past a trasvestite bar on some side street, and head toward Revolution and
the way back.
Our final stop is some hole in the wall bar near revolution drinking up
Rudy's last $5. Us, and some fat waitress / bar girl are the only ones in
the joint. The place is a dive, with the one notable feature being a large,
garishly painted, 20 - 30 feet carved figure like a boat masthead of a lady
with flowing hair and her tits hanging out. The $5 goes a long way there,
and we're drinking and dancing with the fat chick. This summer I'm bringing
my new amigo back to the Adelita for the best in the house to return the
favor.
That's my report of this notable trip. I'm more careful on the streets now,
and always watch my back. Apparently, the thugs can get away with quite a
bit and the locals look the other way. Rudy thinks the police get a cut,
and look the other way too - don't know. I've seen it mentioned before, but
be careful you're not a target.
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Subject: [ASP] TJ Crime Report by Robert
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 10:31:38 -0500 (EST)
Robert recently posted an account of getting mugged in the Zona Norte, the
salient portion of which describes what happened while he was walking
along the east side of Avenida Constitucion, south of Calle Primera (First
Street) and opposite the alley where the Miami Club is located.
: I cross the street to check out the talent. This is the same street the
: Chicago is on, across the light, along where the fried chicken stands
: are. I think almost exactly the same place our other reporter was. It's
: 6:30 and the street is packed. I'm standing there making my decision.
: It happened quick. The guy grabbed me from behind, and it felt like there
: was an iron bar across my throat. He must have been large and strong,
: because my head was pulled back and I believe I was lifted up. I could
: barely breath in very short gasps, and it felt like I was drowning. A crazy
: thought went through my head that nobody was helping because they couldn't
: see me, and if I could just yell out they would. The words couldn't come.
: The guy jams me to the ground squeezing even tighter now, and I feel like
: I'm on and operating table going under anesthesia. As I'm passing out, I
: can feel other sets of hands going through my pockets. One guy is ripping
: up the back of my pants where the wallet is buttoned in.
[Remainder of post regarding Good Samaritan deleted.]
Gentlemen: The key point to take away from this excellent report is that
even a few feet can make a big difference in the Zona Norte. As I've
written before, the short walk from the Adelita Bar to the Chicago Club
and vice versa is safe. But as you can see from Robert's report, there are
banditos lurking just a few feet away from the safe area. If you are a
Zona Norte novice, I recommend you stick to the Chicago Club, the Adelita
Bar, and the few feet of safe sidewalk in between. You'll find all the hot
girls you could want in those two places. It's simply not worth the risk
to go elsewhere.
If you are a Zona Norte regular and you find yourself getting off the
beaten path, BE ON YOUR GUARD. Keep your head up. Be careful of who might
be behind you. Walk in the street as opposed to on the sidewalks. This is
especially good advice if you find yourself on Av. Constitucion, between
First and Second Streets.
Brockton O'Toole
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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 13:07:39 -0700
Subject: Tijuana Report
Here is a little report on my recent (August 1997) visit to the two most
popular prostitution pick-up bars in Tijuana.
I rolled into San Diego late after a long ride thru the hills from Santa
Barbara and got a hotel room near Balboa Park. About 11PM I caught the
boarder bus, crossed the boarder and took a $5 taxi ride to the Adelita
Bar. The taxi driver claimed that he did not have change for a twenty.
When I offered him $3 he suddenly found the necessary change. After that I
always asked the drivers the price and if they had change before getting in
the cab.
The place was filled with Mexican men (gee, I wonder why?) and lots of
girls. I was the only gringo there but nobody seemed to mind. After
watching a few plain girls strip (topless only) and drinking a few beers I
picked out a decent looking girl and motioned her over to me. She was
around 20, slim with small breasts and 5' tall - very girlish. She was
quite happy to be with a Rich American and her English was pretty good too.
Her "lady drink" cost $6, my beer was just $1.50. After fondling her in
the bar for awhile she suggested that we "go hotel" - the price was $50 for
her and $20/hour for the room.
This is where it gets embarrassing. We entered the room, undressed and
started the usual foreplay stuff. It was then that I discovered that
riding an old German motorcycle for 14 continuous hours does horrible
things to sexual desire. So I spent over seventy bucks to not have sex
with a cute Mexican whore. If I ever have a naked girl ask me "Que Pasa?"
again I am going to throw up.
The next day I spent 10 hours at the Museum of Natural History (it was
really cool). That night I was back in TJ. This time I went to the
"Chicago Club". It seemed like a nicer (cleaner) place but the room was
almost empty with a few girls and four guys. So I walked back to the
Adelita - it was packed like the night before.
This time I spent several hours checking out all the girls. There were
three basic types: 1) small, thin and girlish; 2) large, voluptuous Marilyn
Monroe style; and 3) chunky, bland (or ugly) in all sizes. Type 1 and 3
predominated. None of the girls rated a '10' but at least half of them
were in the '7' range. The most interesting female I seen was an extremely
well built bleach blond in a tight white dress. She was about 5'10" and
150 lbs with very little fat and big firm breasts, but her face was kinda
dull.
That night I shared a table with a couple young navy guys. They were quite
amused when I grabbed (literally) another small 20ish girl, set her on my
lap and started playing with her breasts. Before that I don't think the
navy guys knew that the place they were in was more than just a strip bar.
Soon they had girls of there own. The three of us were the only gringos
present and, once again, no one seemed to mind. The place looked rough and
crude but I have been in yuppie fern bars that were a lot less friendly.
The second time I took a girl to the hotel worked out much better:
everything rose to the occasion and her performance was well worth the
price. The price was the same: $70 total, but I gave her a $10 tip - she
deserved it. Afterwards she sat with me back in the bar and did wonderful
things with her hands. Had I any more cash I would have taken her back to
the hotel.
Before I left TJ I checked the Chicago Club again: no change. Maybe it was
just the wrong time of the week: Thursday. I think more research is
necessary.
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 00:56:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [asp] Tijuana experience, June 1997
I have travelled to TJ many times and have found most of your information to
be helpful and accurate. I have never had a problem south of the border,
except when I lost my car keys and had to pay to have new ones made while I
waited . . . but I digress. One of the reasons I have not have had problems
is because of my somewhat hispanic looking appearance (dark hair and eyes)
but also because I am careful and respectful of the people.
On to my report:
Things seems to have changed a bit at Chicago - the girls seem much more
aggresive as well as the waiters and waitresses. I agree the women are
usually better looking here, but attitude is everything - well almost
everything. The decor has also changed a bit - there used to be a couch near
the entrance where all the girls gathered. That has been replaced with a bar
like area with stools.
At Adelita I can heartily endorse a beauty named "Lucero" or "Lucy" - she is
a short girl with a great body (fake boobs though - which is rare in Mexico,
I think). She usually wears a bare midriff number and with her long blonde
hair resembles a much younger Barbara Eden (Jeannie as in I Dream of
Jeannie). In fact, I started to mention who I thought she resembled and she
rolled her eyes and completed the name before I could. She is a very good
natured and great at blow jobs (with a condom) the way she lick and nibbles
your balls will drive you nuts. Although I have visited her many times - I
almost always seek her out when I am there (she remembers me because of a
couple unusual tattoos I have). She still always asks me if I am sure I don't
want to look around more before I 'settle' for her. I find this bit of
business very cute - anyway I think I will take another trip soon and will
post again when I can.
Thanks
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Date: 7 Mar 1998 04:57:39 -0000
Dear fellow connoseurs,
I have been visiting the Tijuana brothels and prostitutes for the past five
years, which have afforded me some of the best pussy to be had, while
remaining unattached.
I am a young professional in San Diego, I am half Mexican half Irish, so I
can communicate with the girls in Tijuana. Since I wish to contribute to
this most sacred site, I will call myself L'Patron for future reference.
Last friday night I visited Tijuana, and this is how I spent my time.
I drove down to this shopping center -less than one mile from the border-
called "Pueblo Amigo". Here, they have a new strip-club called Bolero,
which I assure you has the best high class pussy in town. The cover is
$7.50, and they won't let you in in jeans. I usually wear a suit when I go
to get laid in Tijuana, and in this place, suit and tie is the norm.
Lap dances are $20, and I have only once gotten one from this girl named
Bridgette . I usually just sit back and drink some cognac and smoke a big
fat cuban cigar and try to act and look totally cool -I really get off on
acting the part of Mr Smooth in strip bars, it is my form of foreplay-.
So as of the last four months -after hitting the Gym and Sauna for a
while-I have gotten my weekend started by going on friday night to this
bolero joint and hanging out for about an hour -from 9-10pm-. Then I drive
down into town -Revolution Street- and park my car on Sanborns [2 free
hours and $1/hour thereafter or $5 for 24hrs, as well as the safest parking
I know of]. Then I head to this bar/dance club on seventh as well called
"las pulgas" $5.00 Cover including a drink. It is packed on friday and
saturday nights with some of the absolutely most beautiful ladies in
Tijuana. Many university/preparatory school girls from well to do mexican
families. Many girls go in groupies and if you play your cards right, you
can easily take one to a hotel. So I usually dance for a while
-techno/alternative/rock US music -I am a local there by now- and buy some
girl a couple of drinks treat her like a princess -and make her think that
I have fallen in love at first sight, and that we are destined to be
together for the rest of our lives, I mention that I make a six figure
income and that usually helps too- and 8 times out of 10 I get to take her
to a hotel within three hours of being in that joint. There is a hotel on
the corner of fourth and revolution called Caesars Hotel, -you only need to
walk the girl for three blocks- and they charge $25 for a nice clean room
for the whole night and up to 1pm the next day -just like a regular hotel-.
If the girl is really hot, and if it looks like you may want to see her
again or spend the weekend with her, I recommend renting a suite for $50
with a view of Tijuana and a big tub where you can both take a bath and
have sex there if you so wish.
Alternatively, If my charm does not help me pick up a girl, I head over to
the prostitutes. Where you may ask is my top choice for top choice meat?
I go to this place about half a block north of Seventh street in
Revolution, called Mexico Lindo. This place -by far- has the best looking
woman in Tijuana, far better than Chicago Club.
Mexico Lindo is actually a nice quaint bar, which plays nice music in the
background, and all of the girls wear nice cocktail dresses and high heels.
The girls here all charge about the same $100 for 1-2 hours. There is a
hotel across the street, but they will go to your house/hotel if you want
them to -I think that the cabbies in front of the joint are their pimps-.
When I end up going here I will sit down at the bar first and order a drink
and smoke a cigar while I check out the girls. My favorite girl -whom I
have been seeing for the past month is Vanessa. She is Chinese/Mexican
5'7', very skinny with large firm breasts -implants-. Actually she has
only been there for the past six weeks, and the first time I met her she
had only been there for two weeks. As strange as this may sound, Vanessa
is one of the most intelligent, sensitive and creative women I have ever
meet. In addition she is also a royal piece of ass, USDA Select Choice
Filet Mignon for certain. I am proud to say that I have instructed her on
how to give great head, so if you ever have the opportunity to get blown by
her, you know who to thank.
This girl is so passionate that her body gets so hot during sex it is
fucking unbelievable. I felt she was going to melt or explode, while I was
fucking her.
God knows that I have fucked alot of women in my life -both prostitutes and
civilians- and she is definitely in my top ten list of all time mind
boggling fucks.
I really recommend this place, and I think that the money is worth it.
Before I started making money -back when I was in medical school- I would
come down and sample the $10 hookers on the street, as well as once in a
while a $40 whore from the revolution Sans Souci joint. In my opinion the
street hookers are definitely not worth it.
You get 15 minutes with them in the hotel, most will not let you touch them
above the waist, nor do they take their tops off. No Kissing, fondling,
caressing, foreplay or anything that makes sex erotic and meaningful. Sans
Souci and the other revolution brothels have these hookers that rush you
through sex and want to get you off ASAP, so they can go back and fuck
another guy for more money.
In Mexico Lindo you will come as close as you can to having a real date one
night stand type of thing with a very classy and drop dead beautyful girl.
I have had Four girls from this place, and they all have long Silky hair,
wear nice expensive female perfume and wear sexy yet classy cocktail
dresses. To be quite honest, this latest girl Vanessa, with her appearance
at this joint, I could easily take her to a nice cocktail party or the
opera or to a nice restaurant and she would fit right in. That is to the
extent to which these girls do not look like whores at all.
I do not know if my tastes have been refined, or if its because I can just
afford much more, but I find that my stomach turns when I think of the
street hookers and the other hookers from other brothels that I once, in
past times, frequented.
Finally, these girls at Mexico Lindo will gladly sit down with you and have
a couple of drinks and chit chat about anything your heart desires.
Whether you want to get to know them or want to brag about what a stud you
are -I don't recommend this-, or whatever. Actually, when I first met
Vanessa, we ended up talking about Spanish Art and Literature in which she
was very well versed. Imagine that, where in the fucking world are you
going to sit down and drink cognac with a prostitute that knows her
Cervantes and her Picasso and that intellectually -and later sexually-
stimulates you.
At this time -in all honesty- I prefer to pick up young girls at "las
pulgas", over prostitutes. Yes, they take more time to get in bed, and you
may have to be a little misleading, but it is the thrill of conquest, and
the ego satisfaction that a girl will fuck you without paying her money
that thrills me.
In closing, I will share that it is not just the sexual act that pleases me
-though I do consider my sexual prowess my strongest asset- but also the
fact that you sit back and romance or shoot the shit with the chick before
you fuck her crazy. I believe that the little getting to know you part
makes the experience all the more sweet.
Well Amigos I must say good bye now. Perhaps I will see you at either one
of these three places, and if you recognize me, please say hi. My car has
the licence plates LPATRON, and many people in Tijuana call me L'Patron.
[El Patron is a high quality tequila made in mexico which I dearly like, it
also means literally "the big boss" in spanish, which I thought I would use
as a joke]
Till later my dear connoseurs,
L'Patron
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Subject: Tijuana-Zona Norte
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:44:38 PST
Regarding Tijuana, and the Zona Norte, I am contributing from a slightly
different view-point, than most of your readers.
Circumstances bring me to San Diego once a month, and I always get to
Tijuana in the afternoon.
For daytime visitors I would recommend that you park your car at the
Iris, or Beyer Street trolley station. There is plenty of free parking,
the ride to the border takes 5 minutes, costs $1 each way (trains run
every 15 minutes), and stops at American Customs.
It is about one mile to Revolution Blvd, and it is necessary to cross
over the pedestrian bridge at customs. If you don't feel like walking
there are frequent shuttle buses, although these do not save you any
time. Avoid the places on Revolution (Bambi, Sans Souci, Unicorn etc).
as my experiences there have ranged from fair to poor.
I've never felt threatened, or unsafe on the walk to the Adelita, but
would recommend a taxi after dark. I never got to the Chicago Club, or
any of the other places because of my first experience at the Adelita.
About the time I ordered a drink, and my eyes got accustomed to the
light, I was approached by a lady named Leticia, who asked if I would
like to "do some business" with her.
(She speaks fluent English). She very quickly listed the delights that
this would entail. I asked if I could kiss her. She said "o yes", and
gave me a breath mint! $40 was acceptable to both of us, and I bought
her the customary overpriced drink.
She then took me to the adjacent hotel which was surprisingly clean, and
comfortable ($10).
Leticia was an absolute delight!. You could easily miss her if you
insist on the tall, slender, "Norteamericano type", but this would be a
great mistake. She is petite, no more than 5 ft. has a light
complexion, and is in her middle to late 20's. Her bottom, and hips are
in the plump Mexican mode, but her waist is tiny, and her breasts, are
medium sized, beautifully shaped, and firm, in fact her entire body is
soft yet firm. She has a cute expressive face, dark eyes, kissable
lips, long Auburn hair and skin like satin. Altogether a very appealing
lady.
Looks are, of course, subjective, but her attitude is unquestionably
first rate by any standard. I have one cautionary note, Leticia is not
the type of woman who thrives on abuse, thereforeshe works days. and
seems to prefer older American men, (more money, and less attitude).
.
She has an interesting personality quirk, in that she dresses very
conservatively, in public, but alone is totally at ease with her body
in private.
A combination of age (early 50s), and heart medication cause me some
performance problems, which she takes totally in stride, and manages to
deal with very effectively.
She claims to be a good cook, which I am inclined to believe, because
she certainly knows how to please a man in every other way.
Needless to say I have been back to see her, as often as possible, and
will continue to.
In fact like everyone else I have a fantasy about winning the Lottery.
If I did, I would keep Leticia to myself.
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Subject: Tijuana night
Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 14:31:47 EDT
I just wanted to share my experience I just recently had in Tijuana. I have
lived in San Diego for many years, but I have never ventured into the clubs of
Tijuana. I have traveled extensively in Mexico, and I speak Spanish well
enough to get by. I have read O'Toole's report on the Chicago Club, and this
intrigued me. I decided to follow his plan, and left my car at 5 Star parking.
It was about 9:00pm, on a Friday night, and I took a cab from the boarder to
the club.
Once inside, I saw it wasn't very crowded yet, and there were about
ten girls standing at the bar. I was able to get a table (high one
along the wall), and proceeded to scope out the talent. I noticed a
beautiful girl come in with some friends, and they picked a spot near
the door to stand. She had a great body, and beautiful face, and
several men went over to talk to her, but none were successful. I am
6'3", 175lbs, and quite fit for 40 yrs. I walked over to her, and saw
that her friend was pointing at me, and saying something to her. I
asked her if she wanted to join me at my table, and after asking where
I was sitting, she agreed. I bought her a drink, we had some small
talk, but then she said "Well, I have to go back to work", and
left. She never asked about sex, and I never had the chance to ask
her! After that, I decided to be more agressive in my efforts.
I saw another beauty standing by the ladies room, and I asked the waitress to
buy her a drink. But she brought the wrong girl back to the table! This was
getting bad! I explained that this was not the one I asked about, and tried to
be polite to the young lady by smiling and saying no thanks. The waitress
found the one I wanted, and brought her back to the table. She was tall, thin,
with long straight black hair, and very large breasts (most of them had
obvious boob jobs). She was quite a stunner. I can't remember what her name
was, but she was from Ensenada. We talked for about two minutes, and she got
right down to business. She said she wanted $80.00, which I thought was steep,
but I agreed, and we went next door. She was very business like, and told me
to pay her, and then take my clothes off and get on the bed. She started with
oral sex, which lasted all of two minutes, then she got on top and rode me for
a couple of minutes. Then she switched to doggy position for a short time,
then to the missionary position. The whole thing lasted about 15 minutes, and
I was not able to have an orgasm. She said she was tired, and had to go back
to work, and if I paid her $40.00 more, she try a little longer. I said no, so
she got out of bed, and went into the bathroom and showered. She came out and
started dressing, and said having sex all night was for girlfriends, and not
working girls. What a disaster!
I went back to the club, trying to decide if I wanted to stay or
not. I saw about 40 girls, and they veried from a couple of fours,
lots of sixes, and three or four tens. I sat down at a table next to
the bar, and started looking for another prospect. I saw a couple I
liked, but the place was crowded by now, and they were pounced on as
soon as they walked through the door. A man came up and asked me if
he could share my table, and I said sure. A minute later, a sweet
young lady joined him. They were speaking in Spanish (although he was
an American), and I started to listen in. She asked him if he knew me,
and he said no. She asked if he would ask me if I wanted to meet her
friend. He asked, and I said sure, why not. She motioned to her friend
(who was standing by the ladies room), and she came over to the
table. I asked her to sit down, and I bought her a drink. She said she
was sorry, but she did not speak very much English. I told her no
problem, I speak Spanish, and we started talking. Her name was
Marysal, and she was from Chihuahua. She had only been in T.J. for
three month's, and she wanted to try to learn English so she could get
a good job. She seemed like she was a good Catholic girl that had come
to the big city looking for work. I was shocked when she asked me if I
wanted to get a room. I agreed, and again I went next door.
We went inside, and she got some tissue, and started to get some KY,
and a condom from her purse. I asked her how much, and she shrugged
her shoulders, and asked how much did I want to pay Wow! What a
difference! I gave her $60.00, and she was quite pleased. We got on
the bed, and she put a condom on, put some KY in her hand and started
stroking me. Then she put some baby oil on me, and started massaging
my groin. Then she wiped off the oil, and started giving me head. She
did a very nice job of that, and then she got on top and started
riding me. She asked if I wanted to try another position, and I
agreed. She turned around, and let me enter her from behind. We tried
that for a while, then switched to missionary. Again, I was not having
an orgasm, and she seemed quite distressed by this. I decided to go
for a little oral on her, and she laied back, and spread her legs. I
licked her but good! She was squeezing my head, and moaning and
tossing her head from side to side. I brought her off twice! Boy did
she get her money's worth! She had me lay back, and tried using her
hand, but got tired after about ten minutes. She finally took the
condom off, and tried with her hand again. I was still not able to
orgasm! Finally, I had her lay back, and tried using my hand, while
kneeling over chest. Still no orgasm! I finally gave up, and laid
down next to her. She seemed quite upset, and asked what was wrong?
She asked if I did not like her, or if she was doing something
wrong. I told her I was sorry, but it was just not in the cards
tonight. We showered, and got dressed. I gave her $10.00 extra (she
earned it!), and she was very thankfull.
I walked her out, said goodnight, and grabbed a cab to the
border. What a night! I spent about $220.00, and didn't get off! At
least I had fun with the second girl. I had her for about 40
minutes. I will try again, another time, as I saw several girls I
would like to try. I will let you know how it goes! Thanks for the
information, it was quite usefull.
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