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Prostitution in: Tanzania

General Information about country, people, geography and climate can be
gotten from the CIA World Factbook entry.

Legal Situation: Prostitution unknown.

The age of consent: unknown.

Specific information

General remarks about East Africa
Extensive report about several regions in Tanzania

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Subject: EAST AFRICA
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 02:45:22 UTC

Railway Hotel in Kigoma

Kigoma is the last Tanzanian town on the Eastern side of Lake
Tanganyika. Girls come in from Zaire for business (no, fruits
and the like, not just prostitution). There's a kind of disco
twice a week in the railway hotel. Many Zarirean girls stick
around. One of them took me to the bar, a big mother with large
breasts that were completely free under her shirt. Being fat is
considered beautiful in Africa and the first thing married women
do after marriage is try to become as big as possible. My problem
was that I knew neither French nor Lingala and she spoke no
English. She then just took my hand and placed it under her shirt
on her breast. I found her big black nibbles to be very hard.
She kissed me deeply and intimate and my hand found that she was
not wearing any slip under that colorful cloth she was loosely
wrapped in. We had a few beers and then went to my room. There we
had a shower together and I laid on my bed and when she came on
top of me I slipped into her and she made me wet all over my
lower body. Then she kneeled over my face so that I could lick
her and she was sucking me and I just could not help exploding
right into her mouth. I think only now I know what sex really is !
She stayed with me a restless night and only asked 10 US$.

Lake Kigoma ferry

There is a ferry from Kigoma to Bujumbura that may now be out of
service due to the political unrest there. At that time,
Bujumbura was safe (apart from minor skirmishes at night). The
boat takes off late afternoon and gets to Bujumbura next morning.
First class cabins have air-con (that never works), second class
has the same plus large cockroaches and deck is third class and
the only place I could find where I did not sweat like hell.
There's a male third class in front and a female third in the
back of the boat just behind the cantin. After dinner I strolled
thru that female third class. Girls called me and said I was
beautiful. I tried to talk to some of them but no one spoke
English. One of them followed me after she obviously got her
mother's OK to go with me. She took me behind the cargo that is
stored in the back of the deck behind the passengers area. There
I sat down on a box and she stood closely in front of me and she
started to kiss me and my hands started to free her breats from
some bra that looked quite bullet proof. When I then started to
kiss her breasts I found that she was very shy. I must have been
the first foreigner in her life. All of the time we were still
visibly from the passenger area though in complete darkness. I
then got my dick out and when she sat on my lap I found that she
was very wet and we had a lot of fun. Later I discovered that we
have been watched quietly by several women. On arriving one of
them told me she had wished she could have had me that night.

Karagwe

Karagwe is the last province in the far NW of Tanzania that
borders Uganda in the N and Rwanda in the W. One time I got thru
there the Rwanda-Uganda border was closed so that I had to cross
into Tanzania at the Rusumu border station and then go ahead into
Uganda by road. Rusumu was the place where the Rwandan border
guard pointed the mortar that was meant to deter the Tanzanian
side on my head when he asked my papers (I still got thru
unharmed and the mortar was put into place against Tanzania again
when I left). Must be a lot worse there by now... Anyway, next
day I got stranded in a small place that I cannot name because
I have relatives there who obviously must not come accross this

report. I had trucked down from the border and then waited for
the next bus to come tomorrow, that is, some time same week. As
in many African villages there is a patch of sand where buses and
trucks stop with some shops and beer bars around. Sticking around
there and waiting for some transport to come accross I made
friendship with a shop keeper. Shops there are merely large
wooden boxes that can be opened on one side for business. She
invited me in and we got increasingly closer and she kissed me in
all public and there wasn't anything bad about it. Her problem
was that she was having several kids at home. She wasn't a
prostitute, she just enjoyed me but she couldn't come to my room.
She put my hand in some secret place from behind while she was
selling and enjoyed what I did to her and really managed to
conceal it all in a way I think no one noticed our activity.

Mwanza

Mwanza is a town on the eastern side of Lake Victoria and this i
where you start trucking accross Tanzania (there's also a plane,
but if you're a foreigner they charge you more than London-New
York). Before I got moving I had to stick around for a while to
find out about road conditions, buses that are about to go or
trucks that take passengers on top of the load (a common form of
transport in E. Africa). When I got back to my hotel I found
that the girls were cleaning my room. They were very friendly
and after we had talked a few minutes one of them gently kissed
me and I touched her breast and found she was not wearing any
bra and then I invited her into my room where I slowly undressed
her and when I put off her skirt I started to lick her and she
was obviosly feeling a lot of joy. There was nothing artificial
in it and despite they are obviously prostitutes they do enjoy
white men.

As I have family ties in that area I have been to Mwanza several
times and made similar experiences each time I got there.

Highway hotels in Tanzania

If you can't get a bus you need to truck accross the country.
Truck drivers usually take passengers but you travel on your own
risk. There are wrecks of trucks who did not make it all along
the road. They get looted within hours but no medical assistance
is available within hundreds of miles. The road has potholes
large enough to swallow up a bus and you only move until the
afternoon rain starts. Then the dust turns into mud and the
truck sinks in some times half a metre and doesn't move a
single inch until the next morning sun turn's the shit into
dust again. This is why you hardly make a hundred miles a day.
When you stop moving usually there's a kind of hostel that got
something like "airy, spacious rooms" written on it. This is
where you stay the night but check for bed bucks, lice, rats
and the rest before you pay. In years I haven't seen any such
place where not some girls stick around and wait for customers.
Despite the out of the way area, some of them could win beauty
contests in America. I mean it ! They are known as "good time
girls" and stay with you for something like $5. If you refuse
to have one of them for a night, you'll probably be in for a hot
time as most of such places have only wooden walls that make you
hear averything that is goin' on next door. And if you stay next
to your truck driver, you can be sure there's goin' on a lot !
Most of the time you'll wake up as tired as you were when you
came as the live show a few inches accross some plywood and the
girl that is with you never lets you sleep. In one case I got
stuck in a place like this for two nights as my truck had broken
down (a very frequent thing). The second evening the receptionist
asked me if she could stay with me that night. She had liked me
the night before but I had already gone with another girl so that
she had no chance to ask me...

Dar es Salaam

The commercial capital of Tanzania and a place no different from
what I described above. There's a huge open place in the center
of the town that is a bit like speakers corner in London. It's
also a good place to make friends. Dar es Salaam is basically a
muslim town and hotels have signs in the room that prostitution
is illegal but some times hotel owners even offered me girls.
Muslim places I stayed in tolerated prostitution going on very
open. There's also some child prostitution going on there. I
have been offered girls of certainly no more than 10 or 12 years
several times. While everything else I described I think is
perfectly OK as long as all partners enjoy (I don't believe that
prostitution in itself is a form of exploitation), you better
keep your hands of children. You're also running some risk of
police raids then and this could turn out to be quite dangerous.
Also remember that the one who tips off the cops will certainly
get bribed. Tanzanian police is among the most corrupt I have
come accross.

Zanzibar

While Zanzibar is certainly well worth a visit it's the only
place in all of East Africa where a girl that I came to know in a
market was refused entry into my hotel. Virtually all hotels in
Africa double as brothels, but probably not in Zanzibar. Most
likely this is because Zanzibar is almost purely muslim. On the
other hand I have not come across anything like what I described
about Egypt.


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Subject: EAST AFRICA
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 02:45:22 UTC

These are my experiences from several trips to East Africa from
1990 to 1995. I always travel alone and the experiences you make
if you travel in a group may be very different from what I
describe below. I am male and I report from a male point of view
for single male travelers. If you are offended by this, or if you
are a feminist, then better not go ahead.

Abstract

If you have ever dreamt to be desired by several women at the
same time and have another partner every night, then East Africa
will be your destination of choice. Never throughout the world I
have found sex to be so free from cultural and social
restrictions. Only if you play the game without a condom, you
will probably sign your own death sentence.

MOST OF EAST AFRICAN PROSTITUTES ARE HIV POSITIVE.
SORRY, THIS IS NOT A JOKE !

Prostitution in general

Unlike Western countries African prostitutes virtually never have
any kind of organization. Many are part time prostitutes and
almost all are alone. This allows you to build personal long term
relationships if you happen to come to the same point several
times. Due to migrant labour and millions of displaced peoples all
over Africa (but in East Africa in particular) prostitution is
socially accepted to a degree completely unknown to any Western
country. OK, I mean it! I keep getting open offers in bars and
night clubs and there's absolutely nothing shameful about it.
Everyone needs sex and the Africans never went through this kind
of crippling christian education that tells you everything your
body wants is bad. This is true of all African countries that are
basically non-muslim. Some times managers have asked me if I
wanted one of their employees for a night or brothers ask me if I
liked their sister or hotel managers have come to my room after
close. African prostitutes are also the cheapest I have come
accross in all of the many countries I have been to. It's very
rare you pay more than the equivalent of 5 to 10 US$ and if the
girl likes you, she may not ask any money at all. As a rule of
thumb those who ask the money first are professionals. In my
experience less than a third do. In some places I had the
absolutely wonderful feeling I could have any women I like if
only I ask.

Sex and fun

Actually most of the time it's pretty hard to determine if a girl
you take to your room is really a prostitute or just someone who
wants fun. Things I found reported in this site such as being
hurried to finish or having limited time (just an hour or so) or
even being asked more money for every piece of cloth to take off
_never_ happened to me in Africa, not a single time in hundreds
of cases. Considering the reports I read on European countries
(have no experience on this at all) suggest to me that what is
goin' on there is a cold business that's just about the money.
African girls always seem to really enjoy what they do (or they
will not do it at all).

White faces

There is a long tradition in Africa that white is beautiful. In
the markets women buy a kind of cream that is supposed to make
them lighter (actually it turns them yellow). Scientists (such
as Leo Frobenius) have reported that white people were regarded
as superior centuries ago. Don't feel guilty for what European
powers did to Africa in the colonial age. This is history.
Everyone who tries to make you feel guilty for this wants your
best, that is, your money for some reason or another. Believe me,
African girls like white men. If you're white, you'll be exotic
and desirable there. If you are Indian, they may not like you
due to the social tensions that are rising between Indian and
Black communities in East Africa.

Tourism in Africa

Sub-saharan Africa is not a monument destination. Most tourists
either come there to see animals or to have sex. You're in for
an adventure either way but if you belong to the second group you
better discover Africa the local way, that is, the hard way. The
things that are goin' on on top of trucks, in buses and in those
highway hotels you find along mud tracks dubbed highways are
absolutely beyond your wildest dreams. If you travel Hilton
style, this may ensure you have a hot shower every day and see
relatively few cockroaches but you take too much of you American
or European lifestyle with you to experience a mentality you will
most certainly never forget.

Bars & Nightclubs

You can find out about specific nightlife offers from tourist
brochures if you think you need to. But you don't need to. In
virtually every bar you find single women that stick around for
customers. It's simplicity in itself. Smile at them, let them
have a beer and this is it. If you make local friends you also
need not feel ashame to openly ask where to go. It's even
expected you will be in high needs if you are a single male
traveller. In a place in Uganda I got stranded for two days to
connect to another bus. I watched women doing some work in the
back room of a shop and I could see their breasts move under
their thin skirts while they worked. I remarked to a friend that
they were very sexy. He asked where I was staying and turned up
with two of them to choose from that night. In this case I know
for sure that none of these girls were prostitutes in any sense.
He must have just told them about my remark, they felt honored
about it and both wanted to see me. They did. Both of them, of
course. Unthinkable in the West, eh?!

========================================================================
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Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 18:21:32 -0400
Subject: your page

In response to your public description of Tanzanian women.

Having lived as a resident in Tanzania for one year, I know the
following:

1) No Tanzanian ever performs a gratuitous act without expecting
something in return. Although you may not see it on the outset, if you
live there long enough you will eventually become privy to this sort of
reciprocity. It is generally more subtle than American or European
reciprocity, i.e., you are not asked to return a favor or fee, and the
length of time of repayment can be longer. However, the person is
always expected to return a favor ar fee at some point; not to do so is
seen as rude. This does not have to be at a later date but can be at
any time.

2) Tanzanian women have sexual relations with their boyfriends in
attempts to receive material items from them. This is very similar to
many other countries. Even in America, women "marry up" while men marry
"down." Many of the Tanzanian men, if not all, are paying their
girlfriends in some way for their sexual favors, be it new kangas or
plastic flowers, etc. However, sex (unmarried) is taboo in Tanzania and
you will not hear of these things unless you pry into lives very slyly.

3) I saw many a prostitute steal money from white tourists. Usually
attempts to do this are made while dancing, or in the car, or hotel. I
know many people who, after ignorantly dancing with a prostitute, or
thief, went to buy a beer only to discover that their wallet was
missing.

4) The prostitutes in such establishments are always accepted so easily
because they give portions of their money to the management, not because
"sex is accepted as right anytime."

5) Tanzania is 30% Muslim, 30% Christian, and 30% "other religion."
The sexual freedom you refer to (stemming from the absence of a
Puritanical history) does not exist. Rather, any attempts to obtain sex
from a white or other man is an attempt to embark on some sort of
economic transaction. In Sudan, for example, there are 24 year old
unmarried women who do not know what a kiss looks like. These women are
no more or less Muslim than the Muslim or Christian women in Tanzania.
All of the women I met in Tanzania regarded sex as a taboo subject and
were very reluctant to be perceived as whores by the menfolk by having
sexual relations and thus they guarded their sexuality very closely.

6) Perhaps, to for once Substantiate your theory, you should test it
out. Before you have sex with someone, tell them you are flat broke as
you were just robbed, you have no clothes to give away, you want sex for
absolutely free and you do not want a wife or girlfriend, nor will you
ever be returning to Tanzania even if your life depended on it. See how
far you get into a bedroom. Then come back and inform people correctly
about the sexual activity of people in another country.

I have never been so disappointed in a person before until I read your
page. Not only does it portray an entire people incorrectly, but you
seem to think you know what the people in another country are like, and
find yourself to be a sort of "authority" on the subject. As an
anthropologist myself, I can state firmly that you have engaged in
projecting Your Value System onto another group of people. For someone
who has been to Tanzania so much, you seem to have very little grasp of
what the people are about. What a waste of time.


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