Blidworth...A Must...or a Bust
marie_...@my-deja.com
We took to the shires this weekend to see if the place had undergone
any changes.Was there a different crowd? Was the atmosphere a little
better or was the clientelle a little more patient.
Sadly our expectations were doused as soon as we rounded the corner of
Blidworth Bottoms.
Whats happened to the place?
Dogging is fun,couples having fun with doggers is fun and the whole
scene debauched as it is used to be held under a veil of secrecy and
naughtiness...But not at Blidworth or so it seems.
We usually take a drive round the shires once in a while and blidworth
used to be a place we could almost gurantee a good time...This was only
2 or 3 years ago...You'd pull up...make some furtive movements in the
car..fumble in the dark and the occasional interior light signal and
before you knew it there would be a dogger or maybe two in all there
morning glory at your window.The dogger was often friendly,polite and
well turned out.Once the polite chit chat had been entered into to
establish what gives,then a more seedier time would often
ensue...Stroking,fingering and rubbing...the wanking and maybe the out
of car good old bonnet shagging would be no problem...lots of fun with
just a few and no bad vibes from hoarding doggers because it just
wasn't the done thing.
Now all that still goes on but at Blidworth the air is tainted,the
doggers seem to have a pecking order or you're soon surounded by a few
that want what they want and it seems they'll attempt to take it at any
attempt.Bad manners abounds...and not just with the hygene aspect but
between doggers...We spent friday night almost in astounded observation
mode.When we first rolled in it was like a nighttime campers
meeting...Cars parked relativley close and at the cars you'd see
couples and singles just chatting away like it was a social
event..People milling about cars chatting like an old wives club and
then with each new entrant to the ring the eyes could be seen following
the car as it jostled for posistion....
But that isn't all of it. We watched as a couple opened there window
and did the singlan thing only to be descended on by 5 singles doggers
before they'd even had chance to get themselves into posistion in the
car...and then when the female seemed uncomfortable and the window was
wound quickly up you could hear the doggers swearing and moaning and
walking off telling each other that this couple were 'pair of prick
teasers' .We thought we'd give it a shot and marie removed her bra and
before it had dropped to the floor there were three at the window.
I asked them to come back in a few mins and what did they do?..They
asked why and stood there ground...Why? Should they need telling.
That was enough for us so we moved onto the next car park only to be
followed by 3 cars ...Not a problem...a new car park a little more
seclusion and Marie wanting her roakcs as well as her knickers firmly
off....What happened? an argument between two doggers as to who whas
here first and for one to stay away....forgive me for saying but it's
normally down to the discression of the couple as to who and who isn't
having a peek isn't it? *shrugs*..
By this time our faith in Blidworth was almost gone but then a little
glimmer returned when the couple that had the problem but 30mins
earlier turned up and parked next to us.Marie and *****entered into a
brief conversation and we moved off to a more private location and the
next hour is just blissful memories.
Now we realise that Blidworth isn't the only place where people go to
to indulge in the clandestine activities of dogging but it's THE ONLY
place so far that we've encountered that seems to be in abundance with
ill mannered single guys that seem to think that couples are there for
their sole convienience..Not only that but to us the social occasion
thing with couples and singles talking shop in crowds at the bonnet of
cars is something best left for the local Luncheon club....
Dogging and couples providing doggers is a secret activity..it's wicked
and it's something of an escapist activity....alas Blidworth seems to
have gotten much much more public and much less interested in who and
what but more of what they can get and what they're going to getand at
any cost it would seem
There are plenty of other places to go that are a lot less active and
with a much better unwritten rules scenario.....
I doubt we'll return to the shires of Blidworth and thats said with
regret because as stated 2 or 3 years ago it was the place to have
fun....Now it's a seems like it's a place to go for a chat and a
general airing of all whats wrong in thew world...Not the place to take
your wife when you're feeling rampant and exhibitionist.
The dogger in the red escort and the blue astra...many thanks for your
interest and we're only sorry we didn't get to indulge.....and with
that we'll leave you with the old adage...Another time and another
place...maybe?...You have our mobile anyway...use it ...
Disclaimer:: This post is our sole point of view and in no way should
be seen as the general concensus regarding Blidworth.
We're sure fun does happen there...and it did with us once we'd weeded
out a few but the ability to have fun at Blidworth seems to get much
more difficult.We go out to have fun and indulge with like minded
individuals and adults...We don't go out to be verbally accosted and
physically threatened...Blidworth seems to be turning the tide into
dogging oblivion and in a short amount of time those car parks will be
barriered and you'll have to do what we're doing...and move onto
pastures new.
Good luck in the shires...
Our email ..marie_...@yahoo.com
Regards
Mike ...the uglier of the duo
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Adel
We agree with your post entirely....this is what Blidworth is like
unfortunately, there are only a handful of well mannered doggers, none
of these are regulars though, so most of the time we are descended on
by the pushy regulars, who are the ones who stand around chatting about
what they have done, what car is coming in, who's in it, etc...
We never indulge in anything with these people because they are
a**eholes, they are ill mannered and just plain rude. They treat every
new dogger with contempt and they are just too loud, they shout when
they talk, so it's easy to hear what they are all moaning on about,
usually bad language too, " f**ing this and f**king that ". They ought
to realise that if their attitude doesn't change no one will go up
there, or one of them will pick on the wrong newcomer and get laid out,
as one almost did the other week, by accusing a guy to be gay. Shouting
obscenities at cars while they are driving past is a favourite
passtime, but that time they picked the wrong guy to call gay.
Thankfully he was intelligent enough just to patronize their stupidity
and by heck, did they look stupid, hehe. Just because a guy is on his
own and they are in gangs they feel a bit tough and try to flex their
muscles a bit too readily and what's so amosing is that most of them
look like they couldn't even win a fight with me :) What they don't
seem to realise also is that the average gay man is fit and well
preserved, goes to the gym regular and pumps iron...mmmmm.....they
should think about that.
We had a pushy dogger the other week.....but we managed to slip his
noose and he was lucky Terry didn't knock his teeth out, he was like
some porn director. In dogging you get what you are given, it is up to
the couple, especially the lady and for someone to be peering through
the window saying " lets see your tits, go on put on a show," is not
how it should be. Dogging is a WUSIWUG and not ask and you shall
receive. I have heard some relly bad reports about pushy doggers and
unfortunately have experienced them myself. In the days when I wasn't
familiar with this passtime and I was being watched and fondled by a
couple of guys, they started to get rough, because they were both
fighting for the space through the window, I sat up, turned away, but
they were still groping me. Terry asked them to leave and they didn't
straight away either. It seems to me that some people have it in their
minds, that if a couple is up there, anything goes, in fact they think
they will get to fuck the lady. Rather than have respect for them, " oh
they are a couple, I wonder if I could watch them ",is more of a
gentlemen's attitude and one every dogger should take.
Enough said on the matter of course I could run into two parts, but I
don't want to repeat what has already been said, but suffive to say
that I have spoken to different couples and we all agree Blidworth has
gone down hill,
Adel
l_sky_...@my-deja.com
to all this and have only been to Blid twice and on both occassions
during the day. Fortunately I have been lucky on both occassions to
watch and on the last ocassion for the female to perform an hand job on
me. I hope that on these occassions I have come across has being well
mannered and respectful to all parties concerned. Its very sad that
such wankers as you describe are ruining the wonderful reputation that
the place once had. From a personal point of view its ruining the
possibility of me meeting more genuine couples who like to be watched
by a polite and well mannered guy. If you're reading this you sad
bunch of bastards, f**k off so the more genuine guys can get a look
in. Its ruining my new found hobby particularly as I do not know of
any other locations in the area. Anyone with any suggestions re new
locations could you please forward them to me. Very much appreciated.
Thankyou.
L-sky_walker
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bim_s...@my-deja.com
things...The first being the few couples who were like 'anything goes'
as soon as they get there giving the wrong impression of couples to
many so-called-doggers. There is nothing wrong in it per se, but if
doggers start to think that the 'correct' approach is to spot a couple,
approach, whip their cock out and immediately want it sucked, or
immediately want to fuck then that leads to all sorts of problems with
the majority of couples who don't want anything *like* that kind of
scene. Hell, even touching or fingering should only come about when
invited (key word there), but I don't think a lot of the guys realise
this. The second reason is the emergence of new (and often younger,
like myself) people on the scene. I think its fair to say that by far
the vast majority of doggers who use BW are over 40, and see the
younger guys as a threat...add to that the fact that a fair few of the
gay guys who use the place are young and the accusations and bitterness
that Adel mentioned surface. Third reason is the use of the internet.
It's great that sites such as UKWP exist and provide advice, info and
meeting points for people but there is also a downside...out of the
large number of 'new' folk who get involved because of the net, a fair
few will read postings and see photos that give the impression that all
you need to do is turn up and hey presto...immediate sex! I'm not
having a go at the pics themselves (hey, I have spent many an hour
gazing at them :)) but to the untrained eye - ok, lets not beat about
the bush - the more stupid amongst us, then it may give out the wrong
impression.
The whole dogging scene came about as a more 'acceptable' way of being
a peeping tom. The whole point was not to be seen at all! This evolved
to include the exhibitionist couples and the whole concept of 'a show'
was born. Then, some couples would play with guys and all of a sudden
there is a fine line between the activities at places like BW and
the 'swinging' scene generally. If guys started off with just a desire
to watch and then took it from there when invited then there wouldn't
be a problem. It amazes me that some of the worst offenders are the
guys who have been going up there for years. They should know better.
These places are great to watch something erotic, to drop-by on the
offchance that something *may* happen, and in an ideal world
relationships are formed and more regular meetings can take place, but
they are NOT places to go specifically to shag someones wife. I for
example, don't see the place as a substitute for a normal, passionate
sex life but more as a place where you can go to MAYBE do something
illicit, something exciting. But if nowts happening, its a quick trip
to grab some food and then home. Too many RELY too much on the place
IMO and then get angry and disappointed if nothing happens.
As for stuff happening during the daytime at the moment, good luck -
but Adel has a point when she says about the school holidays and kids
being around. My suggestion is that if you do go up there and meet a
couple during the day, try and suggest moving on to a more private,
less public location for anything else that may happen.
I still believe that the way things are going there, something bad will
happen and the barriers will go up before too long, so make the most of
it and just pray that the idiots climb back into their dusty old Volvo
240s (or whatever) and disappear to somewhere else (and judging by some
of the folk up there it could well be to their local whist drive or
bingo hall!)
Scooby
P.S. Sorry bout that last paragraph, no offence to the older,
respectful and considerate members. Age really ain't a barrier in this
game, stupidity is though! :)
Adel
mannered, none have took liberties. Pics shouldn't give someone the
wrong impression either, if we didn't have pics the whole internet
would be boring. There aren't really any carpark pics within this site
or the Yahoo site anyway. Just because Pamela Anderson does nude shots
doesn't mean anyone can fuck her does it?
What you don't seem to realise is that there are different levels to
carpark activities...1. Couples who just want to be watched, window up.
2. Couples who want to be watched, window down, with a chance of a free
touch 3. Couples who will have sex with others on the odd occaision 4.
The ones who swing the door open....well you get the picture.
It has to be said that most younger doggers are bisexual too, well the
ones I know, which poses a problem, regarding homophobic attitudes at
Blidworth, which I have overheard time and time again..."What's he
interested in couples for? I saw him parked in the Bottoms, sucking
some queer off ", their words not mine.
As for kids and school holidays, I am sure if a dogger had the sense he
was born with and didn't want to get arrested, I am sure he would move
to a more discreet location.
Adel
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Adel <terry_a...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> I personanly think that the guys I have met off of the net are well
> mannered, none have took liberties. Pics shouldn't give someone the
> wrong impression either, if we didn't have pics the whole internet
> would be boring. There aren't really any carpark pics within this site
> or the Yahoo site anyway. Just because Pamela Anderson does nude shots
> doesn't mean anyone can fuck her does it?
I wasn't personally referring to the pics on this site, but a quick
look at other clubs includes pics of carpark sex all over the place.
Don't get me wrong...i like the pics, its just that some DO get the
wrong impression by seeing them and simply taking a cursory look at the
sites. Just take a peek in to USENET swingers and exhibitionist
newsgroups to see the sort of people I mean :) My point was that the
net can give some people the wrong idea but I would like to think that
the folk who use THIS site will be well mannered and courteous, as
there are enough discussions about the bad aspects of these places :)
> What you don't seem to realise is that there are different levels to
> carpark activities...1. Couples who just want to be watched, window
up.
> 2. Couples who want to be watched, window down, with a chance of a
free
> touch 3. Couples who will have sex with others on the odd occaision 4.
> The ones who swing the door open....well you get the picture.
Hope this isn't aimed at me, as I agree totally with this. But even in
the case of (4) doggers should always approach with a degree of caution
and common sense as its not always clear what the couple wants, and I
would hazard a guess that most couples fall into categories (1)-(2)
with a bit of (3) thrown in for good measure.
> It has to be said that most younger doggers are bisexual too, well the
> ones I know, which poses a problem, regarding homophobic attitudes at
> Blidworth, which I have overheard time and time again..."What's he
> interested in couples for? I saw him parked in the Bottoms, sucking
> some queer off ", their words not mine.
Sexuality is a weird thing in these places as its such a grey area. I
am sure a lot of the doggers will go with blokes there, just as I'm
sure a lot of the 'gay' guys go with couples too. Of course, its horses
for courses...the homophobic attitude is stupid anyway and all the
doggers I have heard saying stuff like that have been the older ones
(backing up your theory about the younger guys and bisexuality I
guess). Of course it doesn't matter as long as the couples make their
own choices and the homophobic prats don't resort to anything more than
muttering amongst themselves.
> As for kids and school holidays, I am sure if a dogger had the sense
he
> was born with and didn't want to get arrested, I am sure he would move
> to a more discreet location.
> Adel
Well you would hope so wouldn't you? :)
Scooby
andy...@my-deja.com
occassionally, I have found the crowds socialising a bit of a nuisance
and the threatening behaviour positively intimidating. It seems to put
off some of the couples too, which is unfortunate, as I had a great
time with one couple who were a bit wary of the loudmouths.
As for the homophobia, why the fuss? Each to their own and it isn't
the gay guys who put people off, it is the loudmouth ranting by people
who never seem to do anything anyway.
Andyg
Adel
My thoughts entirely...I am not put off by gay men. I have been watched
a few times by inquisitive males, they take a peek, watch for a little
while and then leave. Just curiosity? Who knows, but one thing is for
certain, there is no antagonism involved.
It is a lot nicer than...."Oooh that's lovely" followed by "Has he
f**ked her yet?" " God I would love to fuck her, I would give you
something to watch".
I think Dave (Scooby) is right, something will happen up there soon and
it will force the Police to take action. The barriers will go up and
then the fun is ruined for everyone.
I think the Dogger's main problem, well the Dogger's who make
themselves a problem, is that they pretend to be hard of hearing. If a
couple says..."Sorry private show" or "Come back soon" they will
pretend not to hear, or you do get some who do argue the point, I know
as we got asked "Why?" too.
Blidworth is a lovely place and most of us have had some good times
there. So I think the main thing now is to watch out for each other. We
all have our own contacts there and we know of the trouble makers, so
lets just see what happens, as if even the slightest one uses the net
and is hooked up to this site, surely they know we are talking about
them and pass the word on.
Anyway have a good time wherever you are
Adel