Fisher 50C Vs Marantz One
1de...@my-deja.com
unfortunately there were some problems with the set.
I took the opportunity to try the pair of Fisher 50C preamp which the
saleman claimed to be 3 grades ahead of Marantz 7 and 1 grade ahead of
Marantz 1. The power amps used were a pair of Mac MC60 and the speakers
is a pair of JBL ???. Surprisingly the Fisher 50C sounds fast and open
and the high freq is very good compared with other vintage preamps.
This is with the MC60 which should be slow like a whale.
I think its midrange is not as smooth as the Marantz One though. The
salesman blamed on the speakers and the shitty tubes used. Overall I
think it is one of the better vintage preamps available.
There is also a pair of Fisher 90C displaying but they are not for sale.
I would like to try them later since Tim has mentioned someone claimed
that they're the best vintage preamp in the world. The salesman told me
that 50C and 90C are both great and 90C will not beat 50C in all
occasions.
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Tim
1de...@my-deja.com wrote:
> I was at Charlie Boy's shop today trying out the pair of Marantz 2 but
> unfortunately there were some problems with the set.
I was also at Tak Fat late this afternoon and the pair of Marantz 2 you
wanted to audition are now in Wai Lee to be repaired by Mr Tsang. The
condition are pretty good!
> I took the opportunity to try the pair of Fisher 50C preamp which the
> saleman claimed to be 3 grades ahead of Marantz 7 and 1 grade ahead of
> Marantz 1. The power amps used were a pair of Mac MC60 and the
speakers
> is a pair of JBL ???. Surprisingly the Fisher 50C sounds fast and open
> and the high freq is very good compared with other vintage preamps.
> This is with the MC60 which should be slow like a whale.
>
> I think its midrange is not as smooth as the Marantz One though. The
> salesman blamed on the speakers and the shitty tubes used. Overall I
> think it is one of the better vintage preamps available.
The Fisher 400C stereo pre-amp John lent me sound fast and open too and
is a very good buy at its price (but John's 400C has a very noisy left
channel which need to be fixed, but I understand he got 2 of this amp!).
> There is also a pair of Fisher 90C displaying but they are not for
sale.
> I would like to try them later since Tim has mentioned someone claimed
> that they're the best vintage preamp in the world. The salesman told
me
> that 50C and 90C are both great and 90C will not beat 50C in all
> occasions.
I read that somewhere on the net before and apparently the 90C has a
big following among vintage audiophile in Germany! I have seen 80C and
90C on eBay before but not the 50C. The prices were much much lower
than Marantz 1.
Keep us posted of any further audition on the 50C or 90C.
Tim
jekyl...@my-deja.com
> ...Surprisingly the Fisher 50C sounds fast and open
> and the high freq is very good compared with other vintage preamps.
> This is with the MC60 which should be slow like a whale.
> I think its midrange is not as smooth as the Marantz One though. The
> salesman blamed on the speakers and the shitty tubes used. Overall I
> think it is one of the better vintage preamps available.
The midrange's problem probably can be laid at the MC60's feet. I have
quite a bit of listening experience of these and I highly value them for
their monstrous driving power. But they don't seem to be as smooth as
MC275 to me. Who knows why.
The 400C preamp is an excellent buy. Both of my problematic units have a
very clear sound so I can attest that that's the true sound. Rather
"neutral" but with soul. Tim's 400CX is more "authoritative" sounding
but not heavy. Both quite different from the Marantz sound.
BTW, the phono section of the 400C is also excellent and clear. Again,
like my Scott LC21, better than the M7 phono to me. Hard to understand
why sometimes. They all have such simple circuitry.
BTW, you are considering purchase of the M2?? Is the salesman Charlie's
son. I understand Charlie may not come out of the hospital.
--
Used to be doctorjohn, now Jekyll and Hyde
1de...@my-deja.com
>
> BTW, you are considering purchase of the M2?? Is the salesman
Charlie's
> son. I understand Charlie may not come out of the hospital.
>
> --
Lady Charlie didn't seem to know much about these 'treasures' and she
asked me where she should have the 2s fixed. I recommended her to let
Mr. Kwong to have an inspection.
The salesman looks like Charlie but he told me he's not Charlie's son.
Maybe some relative, I wouldn't ask any further.
1de...@my-deja.com
Tim
jekyl...@my-deja.com wrote:
> The midrange's problem probably can be laid at the MC60's feet. I have
> quite a bit of listening experience of these and I highly value them
for
> their monstrous driving power. But they don't seem to be as smooth as
> MC275 to me. Who knows why.
I have heard from that the reason why the stereo MC275 sound better
than the mono MC75 because they have a different power supply design
(half-wave vs. full-wave rectification?). Maybe the MC60 share the same
weakness and also less attractive compare to MC240.
Tim
1de...@my-deja.com
Tim <tyy...@hkstar.com> wrote:
> In article <7s4acq$ndc$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> jekyl...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > The midrange's problem probably can be laid at the MC60's feet. I
have
> > quite a bit of listening experience of these and I highly value them
> for
> > their monstrous driving power. But they don't seem to be as smooth
as
> > MC275 to me. Who knows why.
>
> I have heard from that the reason why the stereo MC275 sound better
> than the mono MC75 because they have a different power supply design
> (half-wave vs. full-wave rectification?). Maybe the MC60 share the
same
> weakness and also less attractive compare to MC240.
>
> Tim
>
They use tubes for rectification instead of the ss rectifiers in the
Mc240 or even the M8b. Both the 240 and 8b use two capacitors in a
voltage doubling circuitry which is different from half-wave
rectification. The M8b also has a selenium rectifier for its bias
circuitry and luckily the voltage is low so it won't blow up like the
selenium rectifier in the M7 which is for the high tension. (Another
one in the M7 is for the filament which is very reliable because of the
low voltage)