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Andrija Popovic

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Nov 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/30/00
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Heya. Yes, it's another icebreaker question! ^_^

The holidays are upon us! WHFS has already begun playing Blink 182's "I
Won't Be Home for Christmas" and the malls are nearly impassible these
days, so everyone is shopping for gifts.

My friends and I circulate wish lists every year, to prevent doubling-up
on presents. This year, we've started adding categories like "Impossible
Gifts," "Expensive Gifts," "Fun Gifts," and "Practical Gifts."

If you had to choose a gift from these categories, what would it be?
This is what mine looks like:

*Impossible Gifts*
A Playstation2. Yeah, that's on everyone's list. :) Failing that, a
sense of self-confidence and self-worth.

*Expensive Gifts*
A digital camera with a USB to SCSI adapter.

*Fun Gifts*
The books I need to round out my Sluggy Freelance, XXXenophile and Kevin
& Kell collections. They're avalible, but I haven't had the money to
grab them.

*Practical Gifts*
A new internal hard-drive for my 7600/132 and someone who'll transfer
the contents of my old HD onto it. My old HD is a tight fit compared to
today's HD's.

What's on your list?

--
Andrija Popovic
vu...@erols.com


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Before you buy.

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In article <9062ra$bu1$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Andrija Popovic <vu...@erols.com> wrote:
> Heya. Yes, it's another icebreaker question! ^_^

Kewl.

> This year, we've started adding categories like
> "Impossible
> Gifts," "Expensive Gifts," "Fun Gifts," and "Practical Gifts."
>
> If you had to choose a gift from these categories, what would it be?
> This is what mine looks like:

*Impossible Gift*
The only thing that fits this category truly is impossible: I would
like a few more years of shared life with my late husband. (Sorry to
start off with a downer)

*Expensive Gift*
Full-sized midi keyboard to replace my 3-octave one

*Fun Gift*
Cowboy Bebop soundtracks, Cowboy Bebop episodes I don't have on tape,
a pretty fountain pen, the floor-show Frank N. Furter doll to go with
the Sweet Transvestite one I already have, any neat desk accessories
that go with the things I have...

*Practical Gift*
This one's tough, because all the good practical things I've either
bought for myself or my honey got them for me for my last birthday.
(The man is incorrigible; he bought me the big standup, 5-quart
kitchenaide mixer AND a 21" monitor for my computer). Oh! I need a new
leather cap. There we go.

--
--Gene
"Everybody wants to be a cat, 'cause a cat's the only cat who knows
where it's at."
--O'Malley the alley cat, The Aristocats.

Andrija Popovic

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In article <906god$ooe$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

gbres...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <9062ra$bu1$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Andrija Popovic <vu...@erols.com> wrote:
> > Heya. Yes, it's another icebreaker question! ^_^
>
> Kewl.

Glad ya think so. :)

> > This year, we've started adding categories like
> > "Impossible
> > Gifts," "Expensive Gifts," "Fun Gifts," and "Practical Gifts."
> >
> > If you had to choose a gift from these categories, what would it be?
> > This is what mine looks like:
>
> *Impossible Gift*
> The only thing that fits this category truly is impossible: I would
> like a few more years of shared life with my late husband. (Sorry to
> start off with a downer)

A heartfelt response is never a downer. <smile>

> *Expensive Gift*
> Full-sized midi keyboard to replace my 3-octave one

Oooohhh...

> *Fun Gift*
> Cowboy Bebop soundtracks, Cowboy Bebop episodes I don't have on tape,

You can never have enough Bebop. The whole series is out now, though my
copies of the last two tapes are on back order. Though, thinking about
it, so are the DVD's. The soundtracks are worth every penny, though. :)

> a pretty fountain pen, the floor-show Frank N. Furter doll to go with
> the Sweet Transvestite one I already have, any neat desk accessories
> that go with the things I have...

I haven't seen the floor-show Rocky Horror dolls. Just these
superdeformed ones...

> *Practical Gift*
> This one's tough, because all the good practical things I've either
> bought for myself or my honey got them for me for my last birthday.
> (The man is incorrigible; he bought me the big standup, 5-quart
> kitchenaide mixer AND a 21" monitor for my computer). Oh! I need a new
> leather cap. There we go.

<smile> Cool. Caps are good. They keep your head dry and warm.

Andrija
vu...@erols.com

Khromat

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Andrija Popovic <vu...@erols.com> wrote:

Hiya! :3


> If you had to choose a gift from these categories, what would it be?
> This is what mine looks like:
>

> *Impossible Gifts*

A house in San Francisco, a vacation for two to EPCOT for a month, a WWI
Jeep, a Prepress shop, piece of mind about my genetics, a memory that
works, and world peace. ;3

Note that I used to always ask for a berth on the Space Station, but
that's no longer in the Impossible range, just Improbable. ;3

> *Expensive Gifts*

A Xerox DocuCenter, a Size D photographic color printer, A 24" Folding
Newtonian Telescope with trailer, An SLR-like digital camera with
mounting lens bayonet (i.e. a 'pro' grade camera) a paid vacation for
one week at an EPCOT resort, a firing kiln and throwing wheel set, a
new professional-grade oven range, a portable DVD player, and a "desktop
replacement" (also known as Executive) laptop computer.

> *Fun Gifts*

There are two basic catagories here:

Anything neon, glow-in-the-dark, blacklight reactive, inflatable (I'm
building a collection for a themed party for Anthrocon, believe it or
not), or holographic.

Anything animal based, (stuffies, shirts, jewelry) specifically but not
limited to predators like big cats, ferrets, wolves, and so forth. I
actually have a rather sizable collection of things chameleon, platypus,
anaenome fish (well, that goes with the neon stuff), gryphon, and
egyptian-cat-deity, too. I used to collect things seahorse, blowfish,
mantis, and poison dart frogs, but there just isn't the interest there
as much as for Big Cats, so finding anything from those are rediculously
hard.


> *Practical Gifts*

Ah, now the toughie! :3

A new motherboard (I'm still running a slow PII and Photoshop chews my
memory! Aiiiieee!!!)

A flatbed scanner (the old HP IIc is dying, sigh)

A cheap laptop (just the basics) that can hack photo editing.

A warm fuzzy throw (I'm still not used to this cold stuff)

fuzzy slippers (make them fuzzy polarbear slippers and it makes it to
the Fun catagory, too!)

-- ermine (who has far, far too many hobbies)
==================================
home email: KhromatAtInOrbitDotCom

Andrija Popovic

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In article <908ajd$51j$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Khromat <khr...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> Andrija Popovic <vu...@erols.com> wrote:
>
> Hiya! :3
>
> > If you had to choose a gift from these categories, what would it be?
> > This is what mine looks like:
> >
> > *Impossible Gifts*
>
> A house in San Francisco,

Eeef! My office manager used to live in the San Francisco area and she
told me about land-costs there. That's nigh impossible, yah.

a vacation for two to EPCOT for a month, a
WWI
> Jeep, a Prepress shop, piece of mind about my genetics, a memory that
> works, and world peace. ;3

<smile> Cool. What's a Prepress shop?

> Note that I used to always ask for a berth on the Space Station, but
> that's no longer in the Impossible range, just Improbable. ;3

Or Really Expensive. :)

> > *Expensive Gifts*
>
> A Xerox DocuCenter, a Size D photographic color printer, A 24" Folding
> Newtonian Telescope with trailer, An SLR-like digital camera with

> mounting lens bayonet (i.e. a 'pro' grade camera),

My roommate and I were looking at some of the Cannon SLR digitals.
<drooool> Gods, they're beautiful. But they're $1,200 for the BODY.

a paid vacation for
> one week at an EPCOT resort, a firing kiln and throwing wheel set, a
> new professional-grade oven range, a portable DVD player, and a
"desktop
> replacement" (also known as Executive) laptop computer.

My boss has one of those, complete with docking-station for the network.

> > *Fun Gifts*
>
> There are two basic catagories here:
>
> Anything neon, glow-in-the-dark, blacklight reactive, inflatable (I'm
> building a collection for a themed party for Anthrocon, believe it or
> not), or holographic.

Ohhh. Neat. :) Shiny things.

> Anything animal based, (stuffies, shirts, jewelry) specifically but
not
> limited to predators like big cats, ferrets, wolves, and so forth. I
> actually have a rather sizable collection of things chameleon,
platypus,
> anaenome fish (well, that goes with the neon stuff), gryphon, and
> egyptian-cat-deity, too.

Tiassa cats?

I used to collect things seahorse, blowfish,
> mantis, and poison dart frogs, but there just isn't the interest there
> as much as for Big Cats, so finding anything from those are
rediculously
> hard.

It's rather like finding anything Coyote themed at the local mall.

> > *Practical Gifts*
>
> Ah, now the toughie! :3
>
> A new motherboard (I'm still running a slow PII and Photoshop chews my
> memory! Aiiiieee!!!)

I just purchased a G4 processor upgrade for my Mac. My ole thing is
running slow these days, especially now 0S9 is on it.

> A flatbed scanner (the old HP IIc is dying, sigh)

They're not that expensive these days, actually. Not compared to the
early days. Now, _negative_ scanners cost an arm and a leg. :)

> A cheap laptop (just the basics) that can hack photo editing.
>
> A warm fuzzy throw (I'm still not used to this cold stuff)

Warm, fuzzy things make nice gifts, yah. :)

> fuzzy slippers (make them fuzzy polarbear slippers and it makes it to
> the Fun catagory, too!)

I've never actually seen polar bear slippers...

> -- ermine (who has far, far too many hobbies)

You don't have too many hobbies, just a time-management challenge. :)

Andrija

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vu...@erols.com

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In article <9062ra$bu1$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Andrija Popovic <vu...@erols.com> wrote:
> Heya. Yes, it's another icebreaker question! ^_^
>
> The holidays are upon us! WHFS has already begun playing Blink
182's "I
> Won't Be Home for Christmas" and the malls are nearly impassible these
> days, so everyone is shopping for gifts.
>
> My friends and I circulate wish lists every year, to prevent doubling-
up
> on presents. This year, we've started adding categories

like "Impossible
> Gifts," "Expensive Gifts," "Fun Gifts," and "Practical Gifts."
>
> Hmmm..."Impossible Gifts"...A brand-new Acura car:)

"Expensive Gifts" Airfare for a friend back East to come visit me

"Fun Gifts" A good set of jaguar ears to set off my tail at cons.

"Practical Gifts" Anything a kitchen would need...mine needs
everthing:)

> --
> Andrija Popovic
> vu...@erols.com
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>

--
Kagur

Andrija Popovic

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In article <908ijg$c85$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

ka...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <9062ra$bu1$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Andrija Popovic <vu...@erols.com> wrote:
> > Heya. Yes, it's another icebreaker question! ^_^
> >
> > The holidays are upon us! WHFS has already begun playing Blink
> 182's "I
> > Won't Be Home for Christmas" and the malls are nearly impassible
these
> > days, so everyone is shopping for gifts.
> >
> > My friends and I circulate wish lists every year, to prevent
doubling-
> up
> > on presents. This year, we've started adding categories
> like "Impossible
> > Gifts," "Expensive Gifts," "Fun Gifts," and "Practical Gifts."

> Hmmm..."Impossible Gifts"...A brand-new Acura car:)

Well, that's not impossible, just highly unlikely at this juncture. You
may be able to afford a new Acura some day. :)

> "Expensive Gifts" Airfare for a friend back East to come visit me

Airfare's making a good showing in this list. :)

> "Fun Gifts" A good set of jaguar ears to set off my tail at cons.

What would a 'good set' consist of? What's the qualitative difference
between a good set and a mediocre one?

> "Practical Gifts" Anything a kitchen would need...mine needs
> everthing:)

<chuckle> I know that feeling.

Andrija

ka...@my-deja.com

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In article <908kln$e8m$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Andrija Popovic <vu...@erols.com> wrote:
> In article <908ijg$c85$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> ka...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > In article <9062ra$bu1$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > Andrija Popovic <vu...@erols.com> wrote:
."

>
>
>
> > "Fun Gifts" A good set of jaguar ears to set off my tail at cons.
>
> What would a 'good set' consist of? What's the qualitative difference
> between a good set and a mediocre one?

Unfortunately, some attempts have looked more like round bear ears
than jaguar ears...


>
>
> Andrija
> --
> Andrija Popovic
> vu...@erols.com
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>

--
Kagur

Khromat

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Andrija Popovic <vu...@erols.com> wrote:
> Khromat <khr...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > Andrija Popovic <vu...@erols.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hiya! :3
> >
> > > If you had to choose a gift from these categories, what would it
be?
> > > This is what mine looks like:
> > >
> > > *Impossible Gifts*
> >
> > A house in San Francisco,
>
> Eeef! My office manager used to live in the San Francisco area and she
> told me about land-costs there. That's nigh impossible, yah.

*sighs and nods*

> a vacation for two to EPCOT for a month, a
> WWI
> > Jeep, a Prepress shop, piece of mind about my genetics, a memory
that
> > works, and world peace. ;3
>
> <smile> Cool. What's a Prepress shop?

The usual equipment for a Prepress shop includes:

Drum scanner
Color calibration between scanner, monitor, and output devices
FIERY device (or RIP devise) for making color photo-proofs
Size D plotter (for poster work)
Full Bleed Size B laser printer (11x17" for full-scale comps)
Binding Equipment (Velo, Metal Comb, U-slot 'perfect bind' machine,
etc.)
Render Farm (okay, at least a lot of computers on a network)
Software such as font foundries, Postscript libraries, desktop
publishing, Photo Editing, Web creation, etc.

In my case, it would also contain a machine that would do silk screening
(there's one all-in-one machine that will do T-Shirts, hats, mugs,
etc.), and one CNC embroidery machine.

Essentially, a Prepress shop is a place to do one-up or small limited
runs of professional publishing. The idea is to use the professional
equipment to build a demo, get approval, then send off the specs to a
Print House if it's to be a major print run.


> > Note that I used to always ask for a berth on the Space Station, but
> > that's no longer in the Impossible range, just Improbable. ;3
>
> Or Really Expensive. :)

Well, until they allow civilians up With Enough Money, it'll still be
Improbable. :D

> > > *Expensive Gifts*
> >
> > A Xerox DocuCenter, a Size D photographic color printer, A 24"
Folding
> > Newtonian Telescope with trailer, An SLR-like digital camera with
> > mounting lens bayonet (i.e. a 'pro' grade camera),
>
> My roommate and I were looking at some of the Cannon SLR digitals.
> <drooool> Gods, they're beautiful. But they're $1,200 for the BODY.

I hate to say this, but the camera I've been drooling at was a cool $2k.
The next level down had one that was $1400. I hate the fact that I've
got expensive taste.

> a paid vacation for
> > one week at an EPCOT resort, a firing kiln and throwing wheel set, a
> > new professional-grade oven range, a portable DVD player, and a
> "desktop
> > replacement" (also known as Executive) laptop computer.
>
> My boss has one of those, complete with docking-station for the
network.

Yup... and the one I want has an equivelent of a 15" screen, DVD
multimedia setup, and built-in ethernet.

> > > *Fun Gifts*
> >
> > There are two basic catagories here:
> >
> > Anything neon, glow-in-the-dark, blacklight reactive, inflatable
(I'm
> > building a collection for a themed party for Anthrocon, believe it
or
> > not), or holographic.
>
> Ohhh. Neat. :) Shiny things.

Sparklies!!


> > Anything animal based, (stuffies, shirts, jewelry) specifically but
> not
> > limited to predators like big cats, ferrets, wolves, and so forth. I
> > actually have a rather sizable collection of things chameleon,
> platypus,
> > anaenome fish (well, that goes with the neon stuff), gryphon, and
> > egyptian-cat-deity, too.
>
> Tiassa cats?

What kind of cats? I was thinking temple cats, myself.

> I used to collect things seahorse, blowfish,
> > mantis, and poison dart frogs, but there just isn't the interest
there
> > as much as for Big Cats, so finding anything from those are
> rediculously
> > hard.
>
> It's rather like finding anything Coyote themed at the local mall.

Which is why you get a friend in the Southwest. :3

> > > *Practical Gifts*
> >
> > Ah, now the toughie! :3
> >
> > A new motherboard (I'm still running a slow PII and Photoshop chews
my
> > memory! Aiiiieee!!!)
>
> I just purchased a G4 processor upgrade for my Mac. My ole thing is
> running slow these days, especially now 0S9 is on it.

That sounds good. I want a Mac someday (hey, I'm not religious), but
right now buying PC parts are what's necessary.

> > A flatbed scanner (the old HP IIc is dying, sigh)
>
> They're not that expensive these days, actually. Not compared to the
> early days. Now, _negative_ scanners cost an arm and a leg. :)

Only problem: the new scanners barely hold 8.5x11 pages, and the minimum
I can use is 9x12, preferrably 10x14. :p

> > A cheap laptop (just the basics) that can hack photo editing.
> >
> > A warm fuzzy throw (I'm still not used to this cold stuff)
>
> Warm, fuzzy things make nice gifts, yah. :)

Always!

> > fuzzy slippers (make them fuzzy polarbear slippers and it makes it
to
> > the Fun catagory, too!)
>
> I've never actually seen polar bear slippers...

They're just white BearPaw slippers, really... but considering my
totems, getting a pair of fuzzy white paws with black claws would work.
:3

> > -- ermine (who has far, far too many hobbies)
>
> You don't have too many hobbies, just a time-management challenge. :)

I have both, actually... and a monetary outflow challenge.

-- ermine (working late... sigh)
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home email: KhromatAtInOrbitDotCom

gbres...@my-deja.com

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In article <906im6$qe2$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Andrija Popovic <vu...@erols.com> wrote:
> A heartfelt response is never a downer. <smile>

Thank you for saying so. I hadn't thought of it that way. :)

> > *Expensive Gift*
> > Full-sized midi keyboard to replace my 3-octave one
>
> Oooohhh...

I know. I like my little three-octave. It can do quite a bit, but the
full size would be so much nicer...

> You can never have enough Bebop. The whole series is out now, though
> my
> copies of the last two tapes are on back order. Though, thinking about
> it, so are the DVD's. The soundtracks are worth every penny, though.
> :)

I know. The friend who introduced me to the series loaned me all his CDs
back in August. I made myself give them all back at the end of October
because I'd been depriving him of them all that time and I needed to get
my home. Haven't had the time or the spare cash (Sept-Dec is birthday
time for more than half my family and more than half my friends)

> I haven't seen the floor-show Rocky Horror dolls. Just these
> superdeformed ones...

I love the Sweet Transvestite one. I wish it were fully posable. Ah,
well...

--
--Gene
"Everybody wants to be a cat, 'cause a cat's the only cat who knows
where it's at."
--O'Malley the alley cat, The Aristocats.

gbres...@my-deja.com

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> Essentially, a Prepress shop is a place to do one-up or small limited
> runs of professional publishing. The idea is to use the professional
> equipment to build a demo, get approval, then send off the specs to a
> Print House if it's to be a major print run.

Yep. Use them a lot (in my day job I'm a graphic artist and the print
buyer for a software company). The friend I mentioned earlier who loaned
me the Bebop CDs works at such a shop, and he can occasionally get me
stuff done for free (or nearly so). But having all that stuff myself
(and the place to put it) is tempting...

--
--Gene
"Everybody wants to be a cat, 'cause a cat's the only cat who knows
where it's at."
--O'Malley the alley cat, The Aristocats.

gbres...@my-deja.com

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In article <908ajd$51j$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Khromat <khr...@my-deja.com> wrote:

> A Xerox DocuCenter, a Size D photographic color printer, A 24" Folding
> Newtonian Telescope with trailer, An SLR-like digital camera with

> mounting lens bayonet (i.e. a 'pro' grade camera) a paid vacation for


> one week at an EPCOT resort, a firing kiln and throwing wheel set, a
> new professional-grade oven range, a portable DVD player, and a
"desktop
> replacement" (also known as Executive) laptop computer.

Very, very cool. I almost put the docucenter on the list, except that
we've been pricing them and have already plotted out when we'll be
buying one next year.

> > *Fun Gifts*
>
> There are two basic catagories here:
>
> Anything neon, glow-in-the-dark, blacklight reactive, inflatable (I'm
> building a collection for a themed party for Anthrocon, believe it or
> not), or holographic.

Ooooo! Kewl! And damn, we can't make to the next Anthro. We're hoping
for the one after, but...

> Anything animal based, (stuffies, shirts, jewelry) specifically but
> not
> limited to predators like big cats, ferrets, wolves, and so forth. I
> actually have a rather sizable collection of things chameleon,
> platypus,
> anaenome fish (well, that goes with the neon stuff), gryphon, and

> egyptian-cat-deity, too. I used to collect things seahorse, blowfish,


> mantis, and poison dart frogs, but there just isn't the interest there
> as much as for Big Cats, so finding anything from those are
> rediculously
> hard.

I try not to put these sorts of things on because of all the plushies
and sculptures and so forth we have all over the house as it is...

> > *Practical Gifts*
>
> Ah, now the toughie! :3
>
> A new motherboard (I'm still running a slow PII and Photoshop chews my
> memory! Aiiiieee!!!)

It wasn't that long ago that I was still running on a 486... when
Michael first moved in he had a fit when he watched my computer boot up.
"You're laying out a zine an that antique!?!?!"

Hey it worked! So what if I was running four-year-old versions of
Photoshop and PageMaker?

> A flatbed scanner (the old HP IIc is dying, sigh)

These are getting a lot cheaper (unless you want the document feeder). I
was really bummed when my old one died, until I started looking at the
ones in the store and realized I could get a much better scanner than I
had for less.

> A cheap laptop (just the basics) that can hack photo editing.
>
> A warm fuzzy throw (I'm still not used to this cold stuff)

I love warm fuzzy throws... speaking of which, I should go get a couple
down out of the back closet.

Khromat

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gbres...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Khromat <khr...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > A Xerox DocuCenter, a Size D photographic color printer, A 24"
Folding
> > Newtonian Telescope with trailer, An SLR-like digital camera with
> > mounting lens bayonet (i.e. a 'pro' grade camera) a paid vacation
for
> > one week at an EPCOT resort, a firing kiln and throwing wheel set, a
> > new professional-grade oven range, a portable DVD player, and a
> "desktop
> > replacement" (also known as Executive) laptop computer.
>
> Very, very cool. I almost put the docucenter on the list, except that
> we've been pricing them and have already plotted out when we'll be
> buying one next year.

Lucky! I don't have the funds, even if the coug'r and I keep thinking
about how useful a docucenter would be in a house with 3 artists, a
writer, and an APA. ;3


> > Anything neon, glow-in-the-dark, blacklight reactive, inflatable
(I'm
> > building a collection for a themed party for Anthrocon, believe it
or
> > not), or holographic.
>
> Ooooo! Kewl! And damn, we can't make to the next Anthro. We're hoping
> for the one after, but...

Maybe I'll drag the boxes with me for FurCon 2002, who knows? :3

> > Anything animal based, (stuffies, shirts, jewelry) specifically but
> > not
> > limited to predators like big cats, ferrets, wolves, and so forth. I
> > actually have a rather sizable collection of things chameleon,
> > platypus,
> > anaenome fish (well, that goes with the neon stuff), gryphon, and
> > egyptian-cat-deity, too. I used to collect things seahorse,
blowfish,
> > mantis, and poison dart frogs, but there just isn't the interest
there
> > as much as for Big Cats, so finding anything from those are
> > rediculously
> > hard.
>
> I try not to put these sorts of things on because of all the plushies
> and sculptures and so forth we have all over the house as it is...

I usually add it because it's a great help for folks who want to buy a
gift and gets steam out their ears trying to think of what I'd like. I
still intend on placing a wire shelf up above the level of the door and
place all my animals up there. I still like the idea of a toy hammock,
too, but those seem impossible to find now.

> > A new motherboard (I'm still running a slow PII and Photoshop chews
my
> > memory! Aiiiieee!!!)
>
> It wasn't that long ago that I was still running on a 486... when
> Michael first moved in he had a fit when he watched my computer boot
up.
> "You're laying out a zine an that antique!?!?!"
>
> Hey it worked! So what if I was running four-year-old versions of
> Photoshop and PageMaker?

Well, I've never been bleeding-edge in my equipment, but I'd tend to
push it to the limits regardless. Back in the bad ol' days of my 286, I
was using a proprietary printer driver program to use TrueType fonts on
a non-TT system. My 24-pin dot matrix would take 4x longer than usual to
print, but what came out was actually really good and semi-professional
looking. :3

> > A flatbed scanner (the old HP IIc is dying, sigh)
>
> These are getting a lot cheaper (unless you want the document feeder).
I
> was really bummed when my old one died, until I started looking at the
> ones in the store and realized I could get a much better scanner than
> I had for less.

Well, the old HP IIc has a bigger bed than anything I see out there
today... everyone's going for the simpler 8.5" x 11.7" bed rather than
the 10" x 14" bed, so I have to consider that now. On the other hand,
there are a couple of easy one-touch scanners that including a film
reader as part of the base model, and even the basic scanners are
running 32-bit these days, so it's a definite improvement. :3

> > A cheap laptop (just the basics) that can hack photo editing.
> >
> > A warm fuzzy throw (I'm still not used to this cold stuff)
>
> I love warm fuzzy throws... speaking of which, I should go get a
couple
> down out of the back closet.

I only got one, and it's been lovingly used. I'd like more, just for
variety. ;3

-- ermine
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>
> > Essentially, a Prepress shop is a place to do one-up or small
limited
> > runs of professional publishing. The idea is to use the professional
> > equipment to build a demo, get approval, then send off the specs to
a
> > Print House if it's to be a major print run.
>
> Yep. Use them a lot (in my day job I'm a graphic artist and the print
> buyer for a software company). The friend I mentioned earlier who
loaned
> me the Bebop CDs works at such a shop, and he can occasionally get me
> stuff done for free (or nearly so). But having all that stuff myself
> (and the place to put it) is tempting...

Among the many wishful ideas I've had in my life, (the "Things to Do if
I had Money" list, actually), I've had several service businesses in
mind that would be fun to do.

One of those is PawPrinting, the Kinko's of Furrydom. I have enough
friends and associates who are artists, writers, and/or APA editors that
having a dedicated small-run press shop could theoretically break even.
And having a place for folks to acquire color copies, posters, and even
the embroidered or silkcreened custom stuff would be attractive.

I wouldn't need to make a big profit, just enough to keep the store
operational (a non-profit press shop?). Hmmmm... maybe a Co-Op shop? :3
All I'd really need is the up-front costs, which unfortunately are
enough to keep that dream from ever happening.

-- ermine

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gbres...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <906im6$qe2$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Andrija Popovic <vu...@erols.com> wrote:
> > A heartfelt response is never a downer. <smile>
>
> Thank you for saying so. I hadn't thought of it that way. :)

You're quite welcome.

> > > *Expensive Gift*
> > > Full-sized midi keyboard to replace my 3-octave one
> >
> > Oooohhh...
>
> I know. I like my little three-octave. It can do quite a bit, but the
> full size would be so much nicer...

You sound like me when it comes to laptops. I like my little laptop, but
a full-blown G4 powerbook would be nice. :)

> > You can never have enough Bebop. The whole series is out now, though
> > my
> > copies of the last two tapes are on back order. Though, thinking about
> > it, so are the DVD's. The soundtracks are worth every penny, though.
> > :)
>
> I know. The friend who introduced me to the series loaned me all his CDs
> back in August. I made myself give them all back at the end of October
> because I'd been depriving him of them all that time and I needed to get
> my home. Haven't had the time or the spare cash (Sept-Dec is birthday
> time for more than half my family and more than half my friends)

The only way I could get my Bebop OST back from a friend of mine was to
get him one for his birthday.

> > I haven't seen the floor-show Rocky Horror dolls. Just these
> > superdeformed ones...
>
> I love the Sweet Transvestite one. I wish it were fully posable. Ah,
> well...

Are those the full-sized, Todd-toys ones?

--
Andrija Popovic
vu...@erols.com

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Khromat <khr...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > > > If you had to choose a gift from these categories, what would it
> be?
> > > > This is what mine looks like:
> > > >
> > > > *Impossible Gifts*
> > >
> > > A house in San Francisco,
> >
> > Eeef! My office manager used to live in the San Francisco area and she
> > told me about land-costs there. That's nigh impossible, yah.
>
> *sighs and nods*

Several bay area bands, including GreenDay and Metallica, staged a
protest concert in what was one of the lower rent districts. It used to
be an area where bands could rent lofts and reherse at a reasonable
price. Now it's being bought up by out-of-towners and dot-com startups,
driving the bands out. Most local bands can't get rehersal space these
days.

> > a vacation for two to EPCOT for a month, a
> > WWI
> > > Jeep, a Prepress shop, piece of mind about my genetics, a memory
> that
> > > works, and world peace. ;3
> >
> > <smile> Cool. What's a Prepress shop?
>
> The usual equipment for a Prepress shop includes:
>
> Drum scanner
> Color calibration between scanner, monitor, and output devices
> FIERY device (or RIP devise) for making color photo-proofs
> Size D plotter (for poster work)
> Full Bleed Size B laser printer (11x17" for full-scale comps)
> Binding Equipment (Velo, Metal Comb, U-slot 'perfect bind' machine,
> etc.)
> Render Farm (okay, at least a lot of computers on a network)
> Software such as font foundries, Postscript libraries, desktop
> publishing, Photo Editing, Web creation, etc.

Everything you'd need to do small-press publications that still look
professional, huh?

> In my case, it would also contain a machine that would do silk screening
> (there's one all-in-one machine that will do T-Shirts, hats, mugs,
> etc.), and one CNC embroidery machine.

Yeah. It'd be everything DSE needs under one roof.

> Essentially, a Prepress shop is a place to do one-up or small limited
> runs of professional publishing. The idea is to use the professional
> equipment to build a demo, get approval, then send off the specs to a
> Print House if it's to be a major print run.

I can see why it's on the nigh-impossible range. That's a lot of
operating capital to start with. Still, it's a wonderful dream. And one
that might actually be reachable some day.

> > > Note that I used to always ask for a berth on the Space Station, but
> > > that's no longer in the Impossible range, just Improbable. ;3
> >
> > Or Really Expensive. :)
>
> Well, until they allow civilians up With Enough Money, it'll still be
> Improbable. :D

Unless the producers of Survivor get into it. They were talking about a
show where people would train to see if they could go on MIR before the
Russians decided to de-orbit it.

> > > > *Expensive Gifts*
> > >
> > > A Xerox DocuCenter, a Size D photographic color printer, A 24"
> Folding
> > > Newtonian Telescope with trailer, An SLR-like digital camera with
> > > mounting lens bayonet (i.e. a 'pro' grade camera),
> >
> > My roommate and I were looking at some of the Cannon SLR digitals.
> > <drooool> Gods, they're beautiful. But they're $1,200 for the BODY.
>
> I hate to say this, but the camera I've been drooling at was a cool $2k.
> The next level down had one that was $1400. I hate the fact that I've
> got expensive taste.

As someone who's just purchased a $299 CDRW drive (External, SCSI) and a
new $488 G4 440mhz processor in the space of two months, I understand.

> > a paid vacation for
> > > one week at an EPCOT resort, a firing kiln and throwing wheel set, a
> > > new professional-grade oven range, a portable DVD player, and a
> > "desktop
> > > replacement" (also known as Executive) laptop computer.
> >
> > My boss has one of those, complete with docking-station for the
> network.
>
> Yup... and the one I want has an equivelent of a 15" screen, DVD
> multimedia setup, and built-in ethernet.

Oohh. Yummy. WIth frosting on top. :)

> > > Anything neon, glow-in-the-dark, blacklight reactive, inflatable
> (I'm
> > > building a collection for a themed party for Anthrocon, believe it
> or
> > > not), or holographic.
> >
> > Ohhh. Neat. :) Shiny things.
>
> Sparklies!!

I shall have to remember that. :)

> > > Anything animal based, (stuffies, shirts, jewelry) specifically but
> > not
> > > limited to predators like big cats, ferrets, wolves, and so forth. I
> > > actually have a rather sizable collection of things chameleon,
> > platypus,
> > > anaenome fish (well, that goes with the neon stuff), gryphon, and
> > > egyptian-cat-deity, too.
> >
> > Tiassa cats?
>
> What kind of cats? I was thinking temple cats, myself.

Tiassa's the only name I've heard for them. They're cats with bird wings.
A friend of mine collects them.

> > I used to collect things seahorse, blowfish,
> > > mantis, and poison dart frogs, but there just isn't the interest
> there
> > > as much as for Big Cats, so finding anything from those are
> > rediculously
> > > hard.
> >
> > It's rather like finding anything Coyote themed at the local mall.
>
> Which is why you get a friend in the Southwest. :3

True. Heck, my roommate was in Phoenix for business a few weeks back and
spotted a coyote darting through some undergrowth. Says the 'yote stopped
within three feet of him before deciding he wasn't that interested. Chris
wished he had his camera..

Say, isn't one of the Salt Lake City Winter Olympic Games mascots a
Coyote?

> > > > *Practical Gifts*
> > >
> > > Ah, now the toughie! :3
> > >
> > > A new motherboard (I'm still running a slow PII and Photoshop chews
> my
> > > memory! Aiiiieee!!!)
> >
> > I just purchased a G4 processor upgrade for my Mac. My ole thing is
> > running slow these days, especially now 0S9 is on it.
>
> That sounds good. I want a Mac someday (hey, I'm not religious), but
> right now buying PC parts are what's necessary.

I'm much the same with my Mac. If I ever get a new laptop, it'll probably
be a PC.

> > > A flatbed scanner (the old HP IIc is dying, sigh)
> >
> > They're not that expensive these days, actually. Not compared to the
> > early days. Now, _negative_ scanners cost an arm and a leg. :)
>
> Only problem: the new scanners barely hold 8.5x11 pages, and the minimum
> I can use is 9x12, preferrably 10x14. :p

Erf. That does raise the price range a touch. Still, never hurts to
window shop> :)

> > > A cheap laptop (just the basics) that can hack photo editing.
> > >
> > > A warm fuzzy throw (I'm still not used to this cold stuff)
> >
> > Warm, fuzzy things make nice gifts, yah. :)
>
> Always!

I could use one right now. While it won't clear up my congestion, it will
make me feel a lot better.

> > > fuzzy slippers (make them fuzzy polarbear slippers and it makes it
> to
> > > the Fun catagory, too!)
> >
> > I've never actually seen polar bear slippers...
>
> They're just white BearPaw slippers, really... but considering my
> totems, getting a pair of fuzzy white paws with black claws would work.
> :3

Oh, those! Oh, I've seen those. I thought you meant ones that looked like
little polar bears you wore on your feet. :)

> > > -- ermine (who has far, far too many hobbies)
> >
> > You don't have too many hobbies, just a time-management challenge. :)
>
> I have both, actually... and a monetary outflow challenge.

Alas, many people have monetary outflow challenges, myself included. :(

> -- ermine (working late... sigh)

Andrija
Wishing he could Telecommute. :(

--
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vu...@erols.com

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> You sound like me when it comes to laptops. I like my little laptop,
> but
> a full-blown G4 powerbook would be nice. :)

Yes. Exactly!


> The only way I could get my Bebop OST back from a friend of mine was
> to
> get him one for his birthday.

hehehehe!

> > > I haven't seen the floor-show Rocky Horror dolls. Just these
> > > superdeformed ones...
> >
> > I love the Sweet Transvestite one. I wish it were fully posable.
Ah,
> > well...
>
> Are those the full-sized, Todd-toys ones?

They're a 11 inches toll, and I think it is Todd Toys that did them,
yes.

--
--Gene
"Everybody wants to be a cat, 'cause a cat's the only cat who knows
where it's at."
--O'Malley the alley cat, The Aristocats.

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> Among the many wishful ideas I've had in my life, (the "Things to Do
> if
> I had Money" list, actually), I've had several service businesses in
> mind that would be fun to do.
>
> One of those is PawPrinting, the Kinko's of Furrydom. I have enough
> friends and associates who are artists, writers, and/or APA editors
> that
> having a dedicated small-run press shop could theoretically break
> even.
> And having a place for folks to acquire color copies, posters, and
> even
> the embroidered or silkcreened custom stuff would be attractive.

Yep. Part of me would love to run a print shop.

> I wouldn't need to make a big profit, just enough to keep the store
> operational (a non-profit press shop?). Hmmmm... maybe a Co-Op shop?
> :3

Hmmm, now that's a thought.

--Gene
"Everybody wants to be a cat, 'cause a cat's the only cat who knows
where it's at."
--O'Malley the alley cat, The Aristocats.

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> > Very, very cool. I almost put the docucenter on the list, except
> > that
> > we've been pricing them and have already plotted out when we'll be
> > buying one next year.
>
> Lucky! I don't have the funds, even if the coug'r and I keep
> thinking
> about how useful a docucenter would be in a house with 3 artists, a
> writer, and an APA. ;3

I may have the model name wrong. It might by a Xerox Workcenter we were
pricing. I don't remember, now. Michael keeps track of the specifics
better than I do. Anyway, we figured out how much we're spending on ink
cartridges for the Epson and the Lexmark and the Brother, and then
assumed that we would get rid of all but the Epson if we bought the
Xerox. It doesn't take long for Xerox to pay for itself, by comparison.

> > Ooooo! Kewl! And damn, we can't make to the next Anthro. We're
> >hoping
> > for the one after, but...
>
> Maybe I'll drag the boxes with me for FurCon 2002, who knows? :3

Kewl!

> > I try not to put these sorts of things on because of all the
> >plushies
> > and sculptures and so forth we have all over the house as it is...
>
> I usually add it because it's a great help for folks who want to buy
> a
> gift and gets steam out their ears trying to think of what I'd like.

There is that. :)

> still intend on placing a wire shelf up above the level of the door
> and
> place all my animals up there. I still like the idea of a toy
> hammock,
> too, but those seem impossible to find now.

I've owned a couple of those, and neither time did the work as well as
I wanted or hoped.

> Well, I've never been bleeding-edge in my equipment, but I'd tend to
> push it to the limits regardless. Back in the bad ol' days of my 286,
> I
> was using a proprietary printer driver program to use TrueType fonts
> on
> a non-TT system. My 24-pin dot matrix would take 4x longer than usual
> to
> print, but what came out was actually really good and
> semi-professional looking. :3

286s weren't bad. I did a lot of work on my 286, produced some very
good-looking stuff. And last summer we had to dig somethings out of the
basement and just for grins I plugged my 286 in and turned it on. It
booted right up. I launched several programs, they all worked...

> Well, the old HP IIc has a bigger bed than anything I see out there
> today... everyone's going for the simpler 8.5" x 11.7" bed rather
> than
> the 10" x 14" bed, so I have to consider that now.

That's true. My old scanner was an odd size, 9 x 13.something. It was
weirds, but nice having that little extra space. the new one is I think
the 8.5 x 11.7. *sigh*

--

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> > The only way I could get my Bebop OST back from a friend of mine was
> > to
> > get him one for his birthday.
>
> hehehehe!

Yohko Kanno, the composer for Bebop is one of my favorite out there. If
her name is on an anime soundtrack, it's definately worth an investment.

> > > > I haven't seen the floor-show Rocky Horror dolls. Just these
> > > > superdeformed ones...
> > >
> > > I love the Sweet Transvestite one. I wish it were fully posable.
> Ah,
> > > well...
> >
> > Are those the full-sized, Todd-toys ones?
>
> They're a 11 inches toll, and I think it is Todd Toys that did them,
> yes.

Todd Toys, aside from parts of the Spawn line, are really small,
affordable statues you can move a little bit. They're beautiful, but not
really meant to be played with.

> --
> --Gene

--
Andrija Popovic
vu...@erols.com

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gbres...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > > Very, very cool. I almost put the docucenter on the list, except
> > > that
> > > we've been pricing them and have already plotted out when we'll be
> > > buying one next year.
> >
> > Lucky! I don't have the funds, even if the coug'r and I keep
> > thinking
> > about how useful a docucenter would be in a house with 3 artists, a
> > writer, and an APA. ;3
>
> I may have the model name wrong. It might by a Xerox Workcenter we
were
> pricing. I don't remember, now. Michael keeps track of the specifics
> better than I do. Anyway, we figured out how much we're spending on
ink
> cartridges for the Epson and the Lexmark and the Brother, and then
> assumed that we would get rid of all but the Epson if we bought the
> Xerox. It doesn't take long for Xerox to pay for itself, by
comparison.

DocuCenter is a Xerox series of modular components, starting with the
printer and expanding outward to include sorters, folders, autostaplers,
duplex module, etc. It's a good investment for a small business who
can't afford the whole Bells And Whistles in one pop.


> > Well, the old HP IIc has a bigger bed than anything I see out there
> > today... everyone's going for the simpler 8.5" x 11.7" bed rather
> > than
> > the 10" x 14" bed, so I have to consider that now.
>
> That's true. My old scanner was an odd size, 9 x 13.something. It was
> weirds, but nice having that little extra space. the new one is I
think
> the 8.5 x 11.7. *sigh*

Right now I'm thinking seriously of sacrificing the larger bed I'd want
in favor of the film-reader attachment that a few scanners are bundling.
Of course, that ultra-thin Canon is really tempting..

-- ermine
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