The New Sock Puppet of Josiah Avraham Ben Morgan HaNasi II

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It would appear that Josiah has decided to retire or is in the process
of retiring his "ExposingCondell" sock puppets.

And after an uncharacteristically long absence from posting, a new
sock puppet has emerged. This is the new sock puppet page:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Confederationsock

This sock puppet, after announcing that he would not "clog" comment
pages, did exactly that in the "Was Jesus Gay" comment section.

There were also comments in other Pat Condell video sections. It
would appear that Josiah's obsession continues.

In the channel description for ConfederationSock, the following
comment is made about the ExposingCondell2 channel:

"The top link is completed, comments may be submitted and messages
will receive a response."

How very amusing that the "ExposingCondell2" channel appears to have
been "completed," though, I suspect, Josiah would be hard-pressed to
provide a convincing argument that the channel ever had a planned
beginning and ending.

I am fairly convinced that Josiah abandoned the "ExposingCondell"
channels because they were so obviously exposed as sock puppets of
his.

I also believe that he was exposed in rebuttals posted both here and
in the comment sections.

Following a listing of TurnerDiaries's Christian Identity MySpace page
and his blog, the following is noted:

"The second and third links are on editorial Hiatus until the new
year."

Regardless, I have confronted and issued the same debate challenges to
ConfederationSock in the places that he has posted. We can watch him
avoid or refuse debate, again, with the typical excuses.

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In the "Was Jesus Gay" video comment section, ConfederationSock, sock
puppet of TurnerDiaries, again repeats a lot of irrelevant speculation
with regard to the actual point of the Pat Condell video, but it does
seem that there is some compromise between his normal tangents and
that actual point. He writes:

"Therefore, yes, if he were gay, it would matter, for a number of
reason"

Of course, it took many months and several sock puppets, but
TurnerDiaries may be finally getting some, very basic idea about the
video and its point.

To quickly review, the point of the "Was Jesus Gay" video was to serve
as an examination of ad hominem and to see where else it might apply.
What matters with regard to a point being expressed? Is it the sexual
orientation of the person expressing the view or should the view (or
the words, comments, or opinions) be weighed on their own merits?

Reasonable people would quite obviously state that its the ideas that
matter.

But a related part of the point had to do with the rather violent
reaction many religious people have when confronted, on any level,
with homosexuals and the issue of homosexuality. Pat quite rightly
mused if it would matter if Jesus was gay in that the power and
meaning of his message would be compromised.

Now that TurnerDiaries, through his sock, ConfederationSock, has said,
quite clearly, that it does matter, he does so completely oblivious of
the fact that he has once again proven Pat's point. He buttresses his
assertion with a set of other assertions that we either take for
granted as true or that ConfederationSock makes no attempt to support
with evidence - or both. The claim is that Jesus was a strict
adherent to Torah, but even a cursory reading of the Scriptures should
give pause to anyone making such a firm assertion. The narrative of
ConfederationSock's assertions also notes that Jesus never addressed
the issue of homosexuality, directly.

It also suggests that Jesus might have been married - an idea that is
completely foreign to orthodox Christian belief, but that's another
topic.

So Jesus was a strict adherent to Torah, even though the Gospels
indicate that this was not always the case *and* there is no real
evidence that Jesus existed, let alone was a fundamentalist of the
sort that is represented by TurnerDiaries and his many sock puppets.

And Jesus never addressed the issue.

So it would matter, according to the latest sock puppet of
TurnerDiaries, ConfederationSock, because it would mark Jesus as a
sinner and a hypocrite.

Destroying that argument, in detail, will be easy.

But first, in fairness, I will again offer the forum to the
TurnerDiaries sock puppet, so that we can have a proper debate on the
matter.