Using deal.II logo in publication

[Martin Diehl]

Dear deal.II developers,

I've written a short overview article on continuum scale modeling in which I mention deal.II (including the preferred reference and a link to the homepage).
For an attractive paper, I want to include the deal.II-Logo. Are there any specific regulations regarding the use of the logo? As far as I figured out, it's also open source but since licensing of images and code is rather different I want to make sure if it is ok. I would of course share the article before publication in case you're interested in the content.

best regards,
Martin

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[Jean-Paul Pelteret]

Dear Martin,

Thank you for asking about using the deal.II logo in your publication! I'm not sure what the restrictions on its use are, so I'm going to defer this question to the other developers who have more specific knowledge in this regard. I'm sure that you'll have an answer by tomorrow.

Regards,

Jean-Paul

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[Wolfgang Bangerth]

On 08/23/2017 06:39 PM, Martin Diehl wrote:
>
> I've written a short overview article on continuum scale modeling in which I
> mention deal.II (including the preferred reference and a link to the homepage).
> For an attractive paper, I want to include the deal.II-Logo. Are there any
> specific regulations regarding the use of the logo? As far as I figured out,
> it's also open source but since licensing of images and code is rather
> different I want to make sure if it is ok. I would of course share the article
> before publication in case you're interested in the content.

Martin -- good question. I don't think anyone has ever thought about this. I
would say go ahead and use it. Certainly, as the person who created that
picture, I have no objections.

We do want to get a link to the article, though, so we can list it on the list
of publications at
http://dealii.org/publications.html
We'd appreciate if you could send us a reference once it's published! :-)

Best
W.

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[Matthias Maier]

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017, at 08:22 CDT, Wolfgang Bangerth <bang...@colostate.edu> wrote:

> Martin -- good question. I don't think anyone has ever thought about
> this. I would say go ahead and use it. Certainly, as the person who
> created that picture, I have no objections.

What about we put a small licensing blurb on the homepage? Something
like "CC BY 4.0" [1].

Best,
Matthias



[1] https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

[Wolfgang Bangerth]

On 08/24/2017 08:02 AM, Matthias Maier wrote:
>> Martin -- good question. I don't think anyone has ever thought about
>> this. I would say go ahead and use it. Certainly, as the person who
>> created that picture, I have no objections.
> What about we put a small licensing blurb on the homepage? Something
> like "CC BY 4.0" [1].

That sounds reasonable. But where would be a good place to put this?

[Matthias Maier]

What about putting the logo and a download link to a high resolution
variant on the homepage ont the Info -> License page [1]?

Stating something like

deal.II Logo
============

The deal.II logo is copyrighted by ... and can be used under a [CC BY 4.0
license](link to license). You can find a high-resolution version
[here](link to logo).


Best,
Matthias

[1] http://dealii.org/license.html

[Timo Heister]

> What about putting the logo and a download link to a high resolution
> variant on the homepage ont the Info -> License page [1]?

That would be great. I also don't think we have a high-resolution
(ideally vector art) version yet.

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[Wolfgang Bangerth]

On 08/24/2017 01:38 PM, Timo Heister wrote:
>> What about putting the logo and a download link to a high resolution
>> variant on the homepage ont the Info -> License page [1]?
> That would be great. I also don't think we have a high-resolution
> (ideally vector art) version yet.

Yes, all that sounds good to me, but I don't have anything higher than
http://dealii.org/pictures/hugelogo.jpg

[Timo Heister]

I did a quick vector-art sketch of the logo. Infinite resolution! It
is not 100% symmetric because I traced the image you sent. Maybe a
good starting point though? Maybe we can take the opportunity and
tweak the shape/colors a bit?

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Wolfgang Bangerth
<bang...@colostate.edu> wrote:
> On 08/24/2017 01:38 PM, Timo Heister wrote:
>>>
>>> What about putting the logo and a download link to a high resolution
>>> variant on the homepage ont the Info -> License page [1]?
>>
>> That would be great. I also don't think we have a high-resolution
>> (ideally vector art) version yet.
>
>
> Yes, all that sounds good to me, but I don't have anything higher than
>

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> W.
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[Wolfgang Bangerth]

On 08/25/2017 02:14 PM, Timo Heister wrote:
> I did a quick vector-art sketch of the logo. Infinite resolution! It
> is not 100% symmetric because I traced the image you sent. Maybe a
> good starting point though? Maybe we can take the opportunity and
> tweak the shape/colors a bit?

Nice job. I don't think the asymmetry is visible. Anyone with picture
editing capabilities out here on the mailing list who'd like to help out
with the logo?

Cheers

W.

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[Denis Davydov]

another take on tracing the lowres logo via Adobe Illustrator CS6. The main difference to TImo's is the shape of yellow rim,

which IMO is closer to the original raster logo.

But indeed, there is no hope to keep it symmetric based on lowres input, unless someones jus draws it from scratch :-)

Cheers,

Denis.

[Denis Davydov]

p.s. Google seems to be display my SVG as a raster low-res image, so here's a .pdf file of the same logo.

[Jean-Paul Pelteret]

Can't one just trace a quarter and mirror it?

On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 10:05:00 AM UTC+2, Denis Davydov wrote:

[Denis Davydov]

I tried that already, the problem is that the sides of the quarter would not have the symmetry to build the whole logo

Sent from iPhone, please excuse my brevity.

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[Denis Davydov]

What I apparently meant is that two sides of the quarter would not be the same and thus the logo will be "less" symmetric.

But you are right, one could always recreate the whole logo from a quarter.

Sent from iPhone, please excuse my brevity.

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[Denis Davydov]

ok, so here's a symmetric by construction logo (from 1/8th of the traced image.

[Jean-Paul Pelteret]

I think that looks great!

On 27 Aug 2017, at 11:54, Denis Davydov <davy...@gmail.com> wrote:

ok, so here's a symmetric by construction logo (from 1/8th of the traced image.

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<logo.jpg.pdf>

[Jean-Paul Pelteret]

Is it possible to do another one with the “deal.II” name on the RHS, like was in the original image? I think that would complete the set :-)

[Denis Davydov]

it's not exactly the same font, but it's close:

[Denis Davydov]

Another option: Courier Bold

On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 12:27:51 PM UTC+2, Jean-Paul Pelteret wrote:

[Denis Davydov]

Yet another: Courier New Bold, pretty darn close if you ask me. The only difference is rounded ends on I's etc.

[Wolfgang Bangerth]

On 08/27/2017 05:56 AM, Denis Davydov wrote:
> Yet another: Courier New Bold, pretty darn close if you ask me. The only
> difference is rounded ends on I's etc.

I like it. Better than Courier (non-New) Bold and the previous font you had.
Nice work!

[Timo Heister]

My counter: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__files.gitter.im_dealii_itGp_logo.png&d=DwIFaQ&c=Ngd-ta5yRYsqeUsEDgxhcqsYYY1Xs5ogLxWPA_2Wlc4&r=4k7iKXbjGC8LfYxVJJXiaYVu6FRWmEjX38S7JmlS9Vw&m=w-OWsHSFKFvDnpVW9zIrDHHbhcbF69VVZ8_l2TDrs14&s=7eUaIGiXA633AbVNkMhhGfFdN0m9fwdDWm8xewuKO48&e=
nicer font and nicer colors in my opinion.

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[Jean-Paul Pelteret]

Maybe, but its not our current logo but rather a new one? ;-)

[Matthias Maier]

As already mentioned off-list.

We should switch to a font with a clear and open license anyway.

Maybe the twentieth anniversary is a perfect opportunity to slightly
change the logo (and colors)? :-)

Best,
Matthias

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[Denis Davydov]

I am fine with adjusting colours, but I like the IBM Courier font as it has relevant history behind.
I believe it is this font which is currently used on a low resolution logo and to my knowledge this font is royalty free.
So i would stick with it.

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[Wolfgang Bangerth]

On 08/28/2017 09:35 AM, Matthias Maier wrote:
> As already mentioned off-list.
>
> We should switch to a font with a clear and open license anyway.
>
> Maybe the twentieth anniversary is a perfect opportunity to slightly
> change the logo (and colors)?:-)

I think that proposing to use a different font is fair game while we
look at the logo. I don't have a particular preference though I think an
upright and clean font looks best.

Best

W.

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[Denis Davydov]

Ok, here's my final suggestion for a logo. 

The writing is based on Courier IBM, changed to curves and further tweaked.

Three colours are print friendly.

Regards,

Denis.

[Timo Heister]

Personally, I prefer the colors and font I used. I like the green dot though!

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[Denis Davydov]

FYI, this logo is done with a help of qualified (master degree) graphic designer.

[Matthias Maier]

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017, at 16:12 CDT, Denis Davydov <davy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> FYI, this logo is done with a help of qualified (master degree) graphic
> designer.

I like it very much. +1

Further, the somewhat different color scheme is also very much
appreciated!

We shouldn't have the "jet color bar" in our logo - it is a terrible
choice :-]



I suggest, we simply put a small number of alternative designs on a
webpage and have a vote (the whole community included).

Best,
Matthias