Transmission is still crashing, even on the current version of Transmission. Did some body tried to install rtorrent ? Is it possible?

[Arkadi]

Transmission is still crashing, even on the latest version of SnakeOS.
Did some body tried to install rtorrent ? Is it possible?

[Juan Angel Saavedra]

Hi all,
Did some user tried to eliminate Transmission completely from firmware??? I
think it's the only solution.
Regards.

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Asunto: {DealExtreme NAS} Transmission is still crashing, even on the
current version of Transmission. Did some body tried to install rtorrent ?
Is it possible?

Transmission is still crashing, even on the latest version of SnakeOS.
Did some body tried to install rtorrent ? Is it possible?

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[dersu uzala]

It is really rendering the NAS useles when transmisison keps on
crashing every so many hours .... I have already reduced the number of
peeers etc in the json file .. they are low like 30 per peer and 120
over all ... ans still ..
every morning I wake up to discover that only an additonal 200mb was
downloaded from when I left it ...

transmission needs to be replaced

On Oct 2, 5:40 pm, "Juan Angel Saavedra" <jasv637441...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[Ricardo Gomes da Silva]

Mine works at least 2 days without crashing. When it crashes, a script reboots the NAS. It works. It's better than keeping a medium-high-end computer powered on only for torrent: 0.5% cpu usage lol. Also, I kept transmission running while I was compiling a lot of stuff on it (cross-compiling is not working this time). Didn't crash at all...

Some days ago my NAS started crashing... sometimes I just can't read anything from the HDD, sometimes it just gets messed up (like the MOTD not being displayed on SSH, which is damn weird). Anyway, I changed the USB cable I was using to connect the HDD and installed a fan over it (yes, I made a hole in the case). Let's see how stable it can get now.

[Arkadi Viner]

I need to know if rtorrent's memory consumption is small enough to fit our NAS, because if it does we can try to compile it, configure it and solve this problem ones for all. 

[Eric]

this page should give you every bit of information you may want:
http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentPerformanceTuning

[Lez]

On 3 October 2010 07:20, dersu uzala <ai...@havelsan.com.tr> wrote:
> It is really rendering the NAS useles when transmisison keps on
> crashing every so many hours .... I have already reduced the number of
> peeers etc in the json file .. they are low like 30 per peer and 120
> over all ... ans still ..
> every morning I wake up to discover that only an additonal 200mb was
> downloaded from when I left it ...

mine runs and runs, no 200mb failures here.

reflash i think

[Ricardo Gomes da Silva]

Ha! Nice.

Well, I'm running rtorrent right now on my NS-K330, inside a chrooted debian. It's using 10% CPU and 35% MEM (htop). I'm running it inside a screen, so it's like a daemon, but I can reattach and get information about my torrents. Also, something that I think it's better than Transmission: my ISP (GVT, Porto Alegre, Brazil) has a "torrent cache" (illegal, but we can't proof anything and it's damn fast - detected with uTorrent). It has 99% of the most "common torrents". So I started downloading 2 movies (both with thousand of seeds) and the cache started working, giving me about 800kb/s on my 10mbps link, which is great. Transmission usually get around 400kb/s and can't connect to the torrent cache. So, rtorrent is better, at least to me.

Anyway, I'm going to use it for this week and then I'll post my results, commands and startup scripts if it works nice :D


Ricardo

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Eric <1ace.tk@gmail.com> wrote:

this page should give you every bit of information you may want:
http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentPerformanceTuning

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[Arkadi Viner]

To: Ricardo Gomes da SilvaI

I will try it your way and report my results too.

But, in my opinion, if we will see that it is better then Transmission (at least not crushing), Transmission should be replaced.

[zapatista]

dersu :

I have been using this NAS for about 3 months now and I can tell that
my transmission is seldomly crashing. Even then, the Magus mod kicks
in and reboots the device so back to business. If you are using a USB
hub, I have seen that they are not very compatible with the NAS so
plug the drives directly into the unit.

Also by the way, for all of you I strongly recommend the transmission
remote client at http://code.google.com/p/transmission-remote-dotnet/
. It's better than the built-in transmission page.

Kolay gelsin

[zapatista]

Ricardo, can you post a how-to on rtorrent so that others can
experiment too?

On 4 Ekim, 17:21, Ricardo Gomes da Silva <cado...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ha! Nice.
>
> Well, I'm running rtorrent right now on my NS-K330, inside a chrooted
> debian. It's using 10% CPU and 35% MEM (htop). I'm running it inside a
> screen, so it's like a daemon, but I can reattach and get information about
> my torrents. Also, something that I think it's better than Transmission: my
> ISP (GVT, Porto Alegre, Brazil) has a "torrent cache" (illegal, but we can't
> proof anything and it's damn fast - detected with uTorrent). It has 99% of
> the most "common torrents". So I started downloading 2 movies (both with
> thousand of seeds) and the cache started working, giving me about 800kb/s on
> my 10mbps link, which is great. Transmission usually get around 400kb/s and
> can't connect to the torrent cache. So, rtorrent is better, at least to me.
>
> Anyway, I'm going to use it for this week and then I'll post my results,
> commands and startup scripts if it works nice :D
>
> Ricardo
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Eric <1ace...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > this page should give you every bit of information you may want:
> >http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentPerformanceTuning
>
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[Arkadi Viner]

To zapatitsa:
The remote client you suggested is for Windows users only because it is based on .net ... Too bad, looks like a nice program...

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[Lez]

On 4 October 2010 20:41, Arkadi Viner <arka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To zapatitsa:
> The remote client you suggested is for Windows users only because it is
> based on .net ... Too bad, looks like a nice program...

Too bad...
Makes a change, I do often feel as a windows user for desktop,
sometime left behind, now dont get me wrong i'm not anti to linux,
even if i can hardly use it, but its horses for courses, linux has
proved itself to be the dogz on embedded devices, look at android and
most lcd tv sets, but for a high powered desktop apps, windows rules
the roost.

so, I hope in future we do see lots of advances on this nas, but with
simple installers that can be run for the novice aka windows user.....

Not starting a flame war, just worried that if we do get a better nas
in the next 6 month I may have to employ someone to reflash/upgrade
it.......or even forbid, learn how to do it myself and use this thing
of many buttons, what its called again, a key board?

[Magus]

You can try compile it in mono (I never try , or running it in wine :-
P

Last sunday (3/10) my transmission crashed five times during the day,
then I removed all old completed files and now crashed just once
monday (4/10).

Well, I'm happy with my NAS, of course it could be better, but I'm
saving many watts ;-)

[Arkadi Viner]

To: Magus

Thanks but it's not so important to me. I have bought this NAS for about half a year ago and Transmission crashing problem making me crazy since then.
More important to me is to find a working torrent client, because the NAS is almost useless to me without the ability to download torrents.

More ever, there are native linux programs which can connect to rtorret's server, so if rtorrent will work for me, I don't need this ".net" application anyway.

[Ken Robson]

There are Native Linux ones as well I use (http://code.google.com/p/transmisson-remote-gui) Transmission-Remote-Gui and find it works well under Mint 9.
With the mod to reboot if it crashes and the cron scripts to stop it when I am watching mkv's streamed from it, I find I works OK, but rtorrent would/may be better.

[zapatista]

Ken, can you post a sample for the script that stops transmission when
streaming starts?

On 5 Ekim, 20:27, Ken Robson <gm1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are Native Linux ones as well I use (http://code.google.com/p/transmisson-remote-gui) Transmission-Remote-Gui and
> find it works well under Mint 9.
> With the mod to reboot if it crashes and the cron scripts to stop it when I
> am watching mkv's streamed from it, I find I works OK, but rtorrent
> would/may be better.
>

> On 5 October 2010 16:40, Arkadi Viner <arkash...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > To: Magus
>
> > Thanks but it's not so important to me. I have bought this NAS for about
> > half a year ago and Transmission crashing problem making me crazy since
> > then.
> > More important to me is to find a working torrent client, because the NAS
> > is almost useless to me without the ability to download torrents.
>
> > More ever, there are native linux programs which can connect to rtorret's
> > server, so if rtorrent will work for me, I don't need this ".net"
> > application anyway.
>

> > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Magus <willia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> You can try compile it in mono (I never try  , or running it in wine :-
> >> P
>
> >> Last sunday (3/10) my transmission crashed five times during the day,
> >> then I removed all old completed files and now crashed just once
> >> monday (4/10).
>
> >> Well, I'm happy with my NAS, of course it could be better, but I'm
> >> saving many watts ;-)
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[Ricardo Gomes da Silva]

Sure. I'm not going to tell every little detail of how to make it work, but this is the basic stuff:

1. Get a chroot environment working
2. apt-get install rtorrent
3. Configure it (~/.rtorrent.rc). Read the manual if you need to know how to configure it. Also, there are a LOT of examples on the web (google it).
4. Run: rtorrent
5. To answer the question "how the hell I use this s**t?": http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/howto-use-rtorrent-like-a-pro/

To run as a daemon, you'll need to get screen working (apt-get install screen) and create a init script to run it. Also you'll need to modify snake telnet's startup script (or any other service script) to auto-mount the chroot and run any script inside. There are topics about this.

Sorry, I can't give you each step because it depends on your configuration and it's a good idea to learn how these things work (it's easy when you get the idea).


For now, what can I say about rtorrent: it's pretty stable, actually. I started 2 torrents some hours ago and one finished right now. The speed is not soooo great: the NAS has a damn slow CPU, so it can't handle a lot of peers. Also, rtorrent uses a nice amount of memory to handle the peer list, so you must count now the swapping factor. Anyway, transmission has the same problems.

Good thing: rtorrent is lightweight against transmission, even if it requires a lot of libs, so I guess it won't crash every day (and didn't crash my router yet! ;D).

Bad thing: rtorrent is not so user-friendly-that-even-a-dog-can-use-it. What I'm trying to say is that you must know how to use it and a lot of things is try-and-error if you don't know exactly how much the NAS can handle (and even your internet link). You'll probably get your hands dirty :)

Now I'm gonna try hacking rtorrent/libtorrent to get it working faster...


Ricardo

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[Ricardo Gomes da Silva]

Current results: rtorrent is stable. VERY stable. The NAS is running for almost 3 days now without crashing. I restarted rtorrent about 5 times because I was tweaking its settings.

I'll write a tutorial as soon as I can. For now, what I can tell you guys is this:

1) Get a chroot environment, updated and running
2) Get screen and psmisc packages installed
3) Get rtorrent package installed
4) Setup rtorrent (~/rtorrent.rc)
5) Run it inside screen, so you can leave the ssh session and it'll be still alive

To make it start on boot you have to change one of the original scripts (here I rewrote the telnet script to run another script inside the chroot). Anyway, my chroot has a script which will start everything for me.

I'll put all info online with a tutorial of how to make it work, but I'm pretty sure this is not for new linux users (newbies). You must understand how debian works, at least 1%. :)


About torrent speed: I can't watch it everytime, but it goes around 50~600kb/s on a 10mbps link (1.2mb/s down, 150kb/s up) with traffic shaping (...ish). It's not as fast as some other clients, but it's damn stable. Any questions? :)


Ricardo

(sorry my bad english. i'm very tired today and my head isn't working anymore :)

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[Arkadi Viner]

To: Ricardo Gomes da Silva

Thanks for sharing all this information.
I some how can't install all of the packages needed by rtorrent.

Maybe you know how to fix this:


sh-3.1# apt-get install rtorrent
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  plowshare: Depends: bash (>= 3.2) but 3.1dfsg-8 is to be installed
             Depends: curl but it is not going to be installed
             Depends: recode but it is not going to be installed
             Depends: imagemagick
             Depends: tesseract-ocr-eng but it is not going to be installed
             Depends: spidermonkey-bin but it is not going to be installed or
                      rhino but it is not going to be installed
             Depends: aview but it is not going to be installed or
                      caca-utils but it is not going to be installed
             Depends: gocr but it is not going to be installed
             Depends: perlmagick
  rtorrent: Depends: libcurl3 (>= 7.16.2-1) but it is not going to be installed
            Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.3) but 1:4.1.1-21 is to be installed
            Depends: libncursesw5 (>= 5.6+20071006-3) but 5.5-5 is to be installed
            Depends: libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8f-5) but 0.9.8c-4etch3 is to be installed
            Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.2.1) but 4.1.1-21 is to be installed
            Depends: libtorrent10 but it is not going to be installed
            Depends: libxmlrpc-c3 but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).

Maybe you are using the chrooted Debian package created by Pinguino7 ?

[Ricardo Gomes da Silva]

Arkadi,

I'm using the "first" debian package that were published, so I can't remember who made it. I changed it a lot, but yesterday I restored pretty much its default packages. Anyway, you may try something like:

apt-get -f install

but I'm not sure if this is gonna work. You should ask the guy who made your debian environment, since we are not using the same (I don't have plowshare :).

Good luck.


Regards,
Ricardo

[Arkadi Viner]

To: Ricardo Gomes da Silva

Could you please paste here the content of your - /etc/apt/sources.list  ?

I some how can't run - 'apt-get update' properly...

sh-3.2# apt-get update
Err http://security.debian.org lenny/updates Release.gpg               
  Temporary failure resolving 'security.debian.org'
Err http://ftp.de.debian.org lenny Release.gpg                         
  Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.de.debian.org'
Reading package lists... Done      
W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/Release.gpg  Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.de.debian.org'

W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Release.gpg  Temporary failure resolving 'security.debian.org'

W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

So, it is a sources problem...

[Ricardo Gomes da Silva]

Sure.

snake:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list

# See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy
# Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs
# CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool.
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free

# Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work
#deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free

snake:~#

You might check your network settings, including DNS servers:

snake:~# cat /etc/resolv.conf

search lan
nameserver 192.168.1.1
nameserver 200.175.89.188
nameserver 200.175.5.188

snake:~#

(Note: these are my settings. They won't work for you. You need to get a list of DNS servers for your ISP (or just use OpenDNS) or just set it to your router (like 192.168.1.1....)).

Regards,
Ricardo

2010/10/8 Arkadi Viner <arka...@gmail.com>

[Arkadi Viner]

To: Ricardo Gomes da Silva

Thanks to you I have finally managed to install rtorrent, thank you!

my - /etc/resolv.conf was empty, so I used OpenDNS as you advised.

[Ricardo Gomes da Silva]

Guys, good news and bad news.

Good news is that I wrote a page about almost everything I did here using chroot. The bad news is that I'm damn tired and probably made some mistakes. You may send me a note if you find any error/mistake/english fail on private (send me an email) or here in this topic.

I created the page on my personal wiki. The reason why I did that is because in Nov 01 google will not provide anymore pages on groups, so I decided to keep this stuff on my college server. :)

http://inf.ufrgs.br/~rgsilva/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=public:software:nas_debian:intro

That's not a HOWTO. That's a page with information you can use to get rtorrent working (rtorrent, samba, ssh and svn, btw..).

[bluedayz]

Hi Ricardo,
Have you tried wTorrent? http://www.wtorrent-project.org/trac/
Its basically a web client of rtorrent.

On Oct 8, 8:34 pm, Ricardo Gomes da Silva <cado...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Guys, good news and bad news.
>
> Good news is that I wrote a page about almost everything I did here using
> chroot. The bad news is that I'm damn tired and probably made some mistakes.

> You may send me a note if you find any error/mistake/*english fail* on

> private (send me an email) or here in this topic.
>
> I created the page on my personal wiki. The reason why I did that is because
> in Nov 01 google will not provide anymore pages on groups, so I decided to
> keep this stuff on my college server. :)
>

> http://inf.ufrgs.br/~rgsilva/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=public:software:nas...

>
> That's not a HOWTO. That's a page with information you can use to get
> rtorrent working (rtorrent, samba, ssh and svn, btw..).
>
> Regards,
> Ricardo
>

> 2010/10/8 Arkadi Viner <arkash...@gmail.com>

>
> > To: Ricardo Gomes da Silva
>
> > Thanks to you I have finally managed to install rtorrent, thank you!
>
> > my - /etc/resolv.conf was empty, so I used OpenDNS as you advised.
>

> > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Ricardo Gomes da Silva <cado...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> Sure.
>
> >> snake:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
>
> >> # See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy
> >> # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs
> >> # CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool.
> >> debhttp://http.us.debian.org/debianstable main contrib non-free
> >> debhttp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-USstable/non-US main contrib
> >> non-free

> >> debhttp://security.debian.orgstable/updates main contrib non-free

>
> >> # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work
> >> #deb-srchttp://http.us.debian.org/debianstable main contrib non-free

> >> #deb-srchttp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-USstable/non-US main

> >> contrib non-free
>
> >> snake:~#
>
> >> You might check your network settings, including DNS servers:
>
> >> snake:~# cat /etc/resolv.conf
>
> >> search lan
> >> nameserver 192.168.1.1
> >> nameserver 200.175.89.188
> >> nameserver 200.175.5.188
>
> >> snake:~#
>
> >> (Note: these are my settings. They won't work for you. You need to get a
> >> list of DNS servers for your ISP (or just use OpenDNS) or just set it to
> >> your router (like 192.168.1.1....)).
>
> >> Regards,
> >> Ricardo
>

> >> 2010/10/8 Arkadi Viner <arkash...@gmail.com>

>
> >>>  To: Ricardo Gomes da Silva
>
> >>> Could you please paste here the content of your - /etc/apt/sources.list
> >>> ?
>
> >>> I some how can't run - 'apt-get update' properly...
>
> >>> sh-3.2# apt-get update

> >>> Errhttp://security.debian.orglenny/updates Release.gpg
> >>>   Temporary failure resolving 'security.debian.org'
> >>> Errhttp://ftp.de.debian.orglenny Release.gpg

> >>>   Temporary failure resolving 'ftp.de.debian.org'
> >>> Reading package lists... Done
> >>> W: Failed to fetch
> >>>http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/Release.gpg Temporary
> >>> failure resolving 'ftp.de.debian.org'
>
> >>> W: Failed to fetch
> >>>http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Release.gpg Temporary
> >>> failure resolving 'security.debian.org'
>
> >>> W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
> >>> ones used instead.
> >>> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
>
> >>> So, it is a sources problem...
>
> >>>  On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Ricardo Gomes da Silva <

> >>> cado...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>  Arkadi,
>
> >>>> I'm using the "first" debian package that were published, so I can't
> >>>> remember who made it. I changed it a lot, but yesterday I restored pretty
> >>>> much its default packages. Anyway, you may try something like:
>
> >>>> apt-get -f install
>
> >>>> but I'm not sure if this is gonna work. You should ask the guy who made
> >>>> your debian environment, since we are not using the same (I don't have
> >>>> plowshare :).
>
> >>>> Good luck.
>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Ricardo
>

> >>>>> Maybe you are using the *chrooted Debian package created by Pinguino7
> >>>>> ?*

>
> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Ricardo Gomes da Silva <
> >>>>> cado...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Current results: rtorrent is stable. VERY stable. The NAS is running
> >>>>>> for almost 3 days now without crashing. I restarted rtorrent about 5 times
> >>>>>> because I was tweaking its settings.
>
> >>>>>> I'll write a tutorial as soon as I can. For now, what I can tell you
> >>>>>> guys is this:
>
> >>>>>> 1) Get a chroot environment, updated and running
> >>>>>> 2) Get screen and psmisc packages installed
> >>>>>> 3) Get rtorrent package installed
> >>>>>> 4) Setup rtorrent (~/rtorrent.rc)
> >>>>>> 5) Run it inside screen, so you can leave the ssh session and it'll be
> >>>>>> still alive
>
> >>>>>> To make it start on boot you have to change one of the original
> >>>>>> scripts (here I rewrote the telnet script to run another script inside the
> >>>>>> chroot). Anyway, my chroot has a script which will start everything for me.
>
> >>>>>> I'll put all info online with a tutorial of how to make it work, but

> >>>>>> I'm pretty sure this is *not* for new linux users (newbies). You *
> >>>>>> must* understand how debian works, at least 1%. :)

> >>>>>>> <dealextreme-nas-%2Bunsu...@googlegroups.com<dealextreme-nas-%252Buns...@googlegroups.com>

>
> >>>>>>> > >> For more options, visit this group at
>

> ...
>
> read more »

[Ricardo Gomes da Silva]

No, I did not. There's not enough CPU for that, I guess. Probably I won't try soon, since I'm using ssh+screen for remote access.

Feel free to test and tell us your results. :)


Regards,
Ricardo

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