Bogus "Reverend" calls people Nazis
ptsc
Gandow's countrymen can view his disgraceful, scurrilous
and libelous accusations of Nazism against those who disagree
with his Scientological worship of Robert S. Minton.]
On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:47:32 +0200, Thomas Gandow <gan...@dialogzentrum.de>
wrote:
>Starshadow wrote:
[Gandow's original libel.]
>>> If You would have dinner in a restaurant with a fanatic anti-Semite
>>> and You would point to the very nice shaped salt shaker on the table
>>> and say, "look, aren't this very nice shaped salt shaker in this
>>> restaurant?",
>>> the antisemite would answer: "And isn't it terrible, You know, that
>>> the old israelites cheated even then the Phoeniciens in the salt trade?"
>> And you are truly a cretin's cretin, "Rev.".
>???
>You want to express by this, that You are a confessing Nazi?
>OK. Accepted.
Gandow makes his libel explicit.
Do you think that in any libel case that arises out of your scurrilous
and unfounded defamations, "Reverend" Gandow, that the full details
of your funding and what it is for will escape scrutiny? Do not be
so sure, "Reverend," that your collar will protect you from the
consequences of your despicable lies and libels?
§ 187
Verleumdung
Wer wider besseres Wissen in Beziehung auf einen anderen eine unwahre Tatsache
behauptet oder verbreitet, welche denselben verächtlich zu machen oder in der
öffentlichen Meinung herabzuwürdigen oder dessen Kredit zu gefährden geeignet
ist, wird mit Freiheitsstrafe bis zu zwei Jahren oder mit Geldstrafe und, wenn
die Tat öffentlich, in einer Versammlung oder durch Verbreiten von Schriften (§
11 Abs. 3) begangen ist, mit Freiheitsstrafe bis zu fünf Jahren oder mit
Geldstrafe bestraft.
One would think the law would not be necessary, though, considering
that commandment about bearing false witness.
You are a despicable liar and a whited sepulchre, "Reverend."
You are also well on the wrong side of your nation's libel laws
in addition to being well on the wrong side of your religion's
commandments.
ptsc
Anonymous
wrote:
>[Fwd'ed back into de.soc.weltanschauung.scientology so that
>Gandow's countrymen can view his disgraceful, scurrilous
>and libelous accusations of Nazism against those who disagree
>with his Scientological worship of Robert S. Minton.]
>that commandment about bearing false witness.
>
>You are a despicable liar and a whited sepulchre, "Reverend."
>
>You are also well on the wrong side of your nation's libel laws
>in addition to being well on the wrong side of your religion's
>commandments.
>
>ptsc
Who is ptsc and why is he DA'ing Gandow? His name is Robert Clark and
here's what he has to say for himself. (Two can play your game Rob
Clark)
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/clark3.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/clark4.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/clark6.html
"I just want to go away where nobody knows me and where nobody can
reach me and where I don't have to hurt anybody else and oh, god, yes.
Life is a process of either being fuckd over or fucking over other
people, and I sure did a hell of a job of fucking over the only person
I ever did care about in a real way, not long ago.
"Maybe you'll hear some day what a fucking phony I am, and the
incredible shitheel thing I did, but not from me. Life is vile. And so
am I. I only ought to hang out with people who are indestructible
untouchable cynical bastards.
"My own capacity to hurt people sometimes terrifies me."
"The moment anyone even approaches criticism of me, I immediately leap
for the jugular. I have those reflexes. I accept criticism as
immediately valid and true and go on to slamming whoever slammed me.
.. Not by defending myself, but by attacking, a habit which the net
encourages. Some people immediately start defending themselves. This
is a bad move. This lets them know _where_ they hurt you. You fuckers
do not know where to hurt me. You know enough to call me a 'faggot'
but I'd just laugh at that. You could call me a 'whiny ex-junkie' but
I'd laugh at that, too. And regardless of where you hit me I'd respond
in the same way--full frontal assault. So you wouldn't be able to
tell. ... you'd know that I get _real_ nasty and real smart and real
vicious, enough to make you look like an utter fool in front of
everyone and on usenet that's the supreme punishment."
Starshadow
Anonymous wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, ptsc <ptsc AT nym DOT cryptofortress DOT com>
> wrote:
>
>>[Fwd'ed back into de.soc.weltanschauung.scientology so that
>>Gandow's countrymen can view his disgraceful, scurrilous
>>and libelous accusations of Nazism against those who disagree
>>with his Scientological worship of Robert S. Minton.]
>>One would think the law would not be necessary, though, considering
>>that commandment about bearing false witness.
>>
>>You are a despicable liar and a whited sepulchre, "Reverend."
>>
>>You are also well on the wrong side of your nation's libel laws
>>in addition to being well on the wrong side of your religion's
>>commandments.
>>
>>ptsc
>>
>
> Who is ptsc and why is he DA'ing Gandow? His name is Robert Clark and
> here's what he has to say for himself. (Two can play your game Rob
> Clark)
>
At least ptsc has the courage to state what he has to
state without resorting to an anonymiser.
You don't have the courage to do that yourself; you'd
rather DA from behind a shield, so no one can dig up stuff
you may have said in the past and repost it as if it's all
new, when it is, in fact, years old, and has zero to do
with what's being discussed at the minute.
----
Bright Blessings,
Starshadow, KoX, SP5, Official Wiccan Chaplain ARSCC(wdne)
"Scientology in 1986, after fraud judgement in favor
of ex-member Lawrence Wollersheim --'Not one thin dime for
Wollersheim'
Scientology May 9, 2002 before final appeal--
86,746,430 Thin Dimes for Wollersheim." www.factnet.org
www.xenu.net --what the Church of Scientology doesn't want
you to see
ptsc
>Who is ptsc and why is he DA'ing Gandow? His name is Robert Clark and
>here's what he has to say for himself. (Two can play your game Rob
>Clark)
Shut up, Bob or OSA moron. (Hard to tell the two apart these days.)
ptsc
Anonymous
>Anonymous wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2002, ptsc <ptsc AT nym DOT cryptofortress DOT com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>[Fwd'ed back into de.soc.weltanschauung.scientology so that
>>>Gandow's countrymen can view his disgraceful, scurrilous
>>>and libelous accusations of Nazism against those who disagree
>>>with his Scientological worship of Robert S. Minton.]
>>>One would think the law would not be necessary, though, considering
>>>that commandment about bearing false witness.
>>>
>>>You are a despicable liar and a whited sepulchre, "Reverend."
>>>
>>>You are also well on the wrong side of your nation's libel laws
>>>in addition to being well on the wrong side of your religion's
>>>commandments.
>>>
>>>ptsc
>>>
>>
>> Who is ptsc and why is he DA'ing Gandow? His name is Robert Clark and
>> here's what he has to say for himself. (Two can play your game Rob
>> Clark)
>>
>
> At least ptsc has the courage to state what he has to
>state without resorting to an anonymiser.
What Rob Clark has to say is pure bullshit.
>You don't have the courage to do that yourself; you'd
>rather DA from behind a shield, so no one can dig up stuff
>you may have said in the past and repost it as if it's all
>new, when it is, in fact, years old, and has zero to do
>with what's being discussed at the minute.
It has everything to do with what is going on right now. The words you
snipped were Clark's words and it shows he hasn't changed a bit. He is
still doing the same thing he was doing years ago to people who don't
agree with him. A quick random check of his posts in the last several
years will bear this out. You also are starting to behave the same
way. Take a long look at the last hundred or so of your own postings.
You personaly attack others who don't agree with you instead of
discussing issues with reason. Hypocrite.
Anonymous
>What Rob Clark has to say is pure bullshit.
Shut up, Bob.